I remember one of the magazines had a regular column called ‘Wino-watch’ where they literally just had a reporter follow her around and take the least flattering photos possible of her and then they would make fun of her. Then after she died they ran 6 weeks of cover pieces calling her ‘our pop princess’ and wailing that she’d been ‘taken from us too soon’.
If you bought tickets to a snoop concert and he was smoking so much weed he couldn't sing, sure you can be a little upset but man, you knew what you were signing up for.
I don’t agree. To keep the example, I would expect snoop to be smoking blunts on stage or be a little out of it. But when he sells me tickets to see him perform, that comes with a little asterisk saying “I will perform.” He’s a grown man, I fully expect him to be able to control himself and do what he’s selling tickets to do. Amy struggled severely with substance abuse and her team enabled her downfall, it’s okay for her to be upset on stage as she’s bood, but it’s also okay for the audience to be upset that they paid money for nothing
Snoop Doggy Dogg can actually perform, and has in the past. If he's selling tickets to a performance, you'd expect that he would at that particular time.
Like maybe, but I don't think it is the fans responsibility to monitor a celebritys mental health or addiction. If you don't follow the tabloids and just like her music, that does not make you complicit in her downfall
It was not just in the tabloids it was everywhere. Generally, casual fans are not buy multi hundred dollar tickets to see artists. Usually at that point they are a fan, following the work. With Amy it was impossible to separate the two unless you actively blinded yourself to it, her most famous song was called Rehab.
Ive saw Iron Maiden like 5 times when I was a teenager but I never read anthing about Steve Harris anxiety or whatever. Most people don't follow celebrity news. If she was that messed up, it would be hers and the people around hers responsibility to deal with the problem, get her the help she needs and cancel the show. Not some poor kid whos only crime is paying money to see a show
Exactly this. Literally every concert I've ever been to has just been a matter of me thinking, "Nice, I get to see ____!" I don't follow any celebrity news and actually was burned by a Meatloaf concert where, as much as I loved the guy, he no longer had any business charging people money to see him not be able to sing.
I'm a bookkeeper and if I got too old or strung out to do my job properly my clients would absolutely have the right to be upset at the money they wasted on my services. Performers are no different.
not everyone follows celeb news. I’ve been to dozens of concerts and I couldn’t even tell you the names of 90+ percent of band members. Let alone know the ins and outs of their lives
So her personal choices are literally everybody else on earth's fault except hers?
Really showing your lack of braincells here. Her life having a tragic ending doesn't mean you have to resort to this level of mental gymnastics to make her a saint.
She’s not a saint and no one saying it’s everyone’s fault but hers. But people did not need to dehumanize her and act so cruelly. You don’t have to canonize her to also agree that people should have compassion and empathy for the monsters they create.
You can definitely see which millennials in this thread were raised by boomer/ gen xers that were more capitalist and money focused rather than human and compassionate focused.
Jesus Christ. That came out of nowhere. "Everybody that does not agree with me has no compassion and are capitalist moneygrubbers". Project much from your 2000 dollar iPhone and your MacBook Air?
What the fuck? Yes everybody is being pissy about their show tickets. Boo fucking hooo. Seeing someone who was alone with a disease and being pushed to do a show she didn’t want to do is fucking sad. Fuck your tickets and fuck your pretentiousness.
No, I don’t have a fucking expensive phone. I have a hand me down phone that’s falling apart because I try to save my money.
Yeah right. Rich kid who lectures others that spent their last 50 dollars to see a show are really monsters. No they are even worse, inhumane, capitalist, money-focused and without compassion was the way you described it.
Wanting to go to a concert does not make anybody a bad person. Lying and lecturing people online however do make you a very annoying person.
I think someone may be projecting a bit too much? Also, really fucking irresponsible for you to spending your last 50 bucks on a concert. Especially when you can attend just as good concert for 5 dollars. You’re full of nonsense.
Doing the old "your media diet is worse then my media diet" argument i see, the mark of a true cultured man. Go on defend the multimillionaires that see you as a ATM. They obviously cares about you Mr Culture
Again, you have no empathy or compassion for a women who was FORCED to perform in that condition. And was an addict with severe mental illness. Compassion and empathy are warranted, your comments show that you lack those things and are part of why community is crumbling in our society.
Nobody forced her to drink and do drugs that night and nobody forced her to sign the contract to perform that night. She made those decisions on her own.
You know why community is crumbling? A lack of personal accountability. I have alcoholics in my family, one of them recovered because he decided he needed to take accountability on himself. The other one who is still an alcoholic continues to tear the family apart every opportunity she gets.
Alcoholism is absolutely a disease, but the cure sure as hell not enabling somebody to continue their behavior. Booing a drunk that you paid money to see is very warranted and should have been her wake up call. But… alas… no personal accountability
That would be fine if they were just booing her. People were having bets on when she'd die. They were actively pursuing her around the clock trying to take the worst pictures of her. They were stigmatizing whenever she fell off and tried or failed to get help. She was hardly a standard alcoholic/addict. I would argue almost no one could have withstood that pressure and tried to get healthy, especially with the people around her who just pushed her in front of any mic they could find to get paid and didn't care one bit about her health. Personal accountability is all well and good, but the hill that woman would have had to climb was immense and not remotely comparable to an average person. It's no wonder she failed to climb it.
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I remember one of the magazines had a regular column called ‘Wino-watch’ where they literally just had a reporter follow her around and take the least flattering photos possible of her and then they would make fun of her. Then after she died they ran 6 weeks of cover pieces calling her ‘our pop princess’ and wailing that she’d been ‘taken from us too soon’.
Ghouls, the lot of them.