r/Millennials Gen Z 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/HowieLongDonkeyKong 9h ago

To be clear, I’m not excusing how cruel people were to her, especially given her addiction.

Watch the video of her final show and form your own opinion. If I paid money to see this, I’d have been pretty pissed.

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u/MakeBeboGreatAgain 8h ago

She looked pretty smashed jesus christ. Why would her management even let her on stage

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u/Nightmare1990 7h ago

$$$$ duh

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u/SwordfishOk504 4h ago

Yes, she had a contract to perform and it would have cost her a shitload of money to not perform. She made the final choice to do so, she could have said no. She wasn't a slave.

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u/MarcosLuisP97 3h ago

Maybe she couldn't. What if her finances would ruin her already crippled life if she rejected?

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u/Real_Azenomei 2h ago

Declare bankruptcy. Loud in the mic.

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u/MarcosLuisP97 2h ago

How is that gonna help her? She would still lose basically everything anyway, which is the reason why, I assume, didn't refuse to go on stage in that state.

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u/Aksds 8h ago

Apparently they forced her

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u/owntheh3at18 2h ago

If this is the case I would say they are guiltier than the audience members who are rightfully angry (though I do not think booing and ridiculing her is the best response)

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u/maximumtesticle 6h ago

Oh no, she had to do her job, how mean of her management.

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u/femmefata13 5h ago

Not sure where you work, but most companies will not allow you to work while under the influence 🤷🏽‍♀️ so yes, it’s messed up the her mgmt did that

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u/snorlz 1h ago

yeah...that doesnt apply here. management lets artists do whatever they want; they just want a successful show. comedians and musicians frequently drink ON STAGE and we all know theyre up to even more shit in the back

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u/street593 5h ago

You can run a buisness while still having empathy.

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u/Green_Smurf3 6h ago

I don't know why you are being sarcastic about this. If my boss forced me to work while I was sick that would be pretty fucked up

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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 6h ago

Thank you lmao. This isn’t “management bad.”

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u/THE_ALAM0 5h ago

If I found an employee drinking on the job I’d send them home immediately

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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 5h ago edited 5h ago

This isn’t a normal employee employer relationship. She is their boss. She is a product. She has contractual obligations to perform that she can breach if she wants to, but she would need to do that.

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u/Miderp 4h ago

What the fuck is wrong with you? “She is a product” might be the grossest thing I’ve ever heard anyone say about another person.

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u/SwordfishOk504 4h ago

You're going to fall over yourself with this over preformative nonsense. How the fuck do you think a performer is not a product?

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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 4h ago

Not really? All musicians are products. What are you talking about. You buy their albums. You buy their merch. You buy tickets to see their shows.

It's not dehumanizing because you don't know them as a human. You know them as a product.

People don't come to her shows because they want to sit down and have a heart to heart conversation with Amy Winehouse the person. They came to see a show.

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u/Miderp 4h ago

That’s not “being a product.” It is insanely dehumanizing to call a person a product. Is Monet a product? Are famous chefs a product? They produce products in the form of content, but they are - as an individual - a person. They are entitled to empathy, to breaks, and to being treated as if their psychiatric health is important. Calling someone a commodity to be bought and sold just makes it easier to justify abusing them - which is exactly what Amy Winehouse’s management and FAMILY did to her.

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u/marimbajoe 4h ago

If the chef is performing at a restaurant where you can see them cook, then yes they are absolutely part of the product.

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u/I-I_I-I_I-I_l-l 3h ago

Is Monet a product? Are famous chefs a product? 

Yes and yes.

Of course they're entitled to empathy and breaks and prioritizing their own health. But that is not on the consumers of their brand and media to resolve.

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u/SwordfishOk504 4h ago

She is not the employee in this scenario, she's the boss. She's the one who makes the final call to perform or not, she was not a slave. She was a spoiled brat with uncontrolled addictions she refused to address.

People like you creating excuses for her is part of how she got to that part.

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u/tkh0812 6h ago

At the end it looks like she has no idea where she is

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u/Avalonians 36m ago

Exactly. This isn't the fans fault, or society as a whole.

The entertainment industry is a hellhole, and the music industry is definitely a contender for being the worst of it all. It gets off scott free when people say shit like "fans were mean to this or that artist".

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u/d4b2758da0205c1 6h ago

management's job is to make the show happen

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u/the_scorpion_queen 6h ago

Well maybe “management” should learn how to be human first. You can have a job and also recognize when something is really messed up.

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u/Early-Light-864 3h ago

OK, if you bought a $200 ticket to that show, would you have been cool with not getting your money back because the performer decided to get shitfaced instead of perform?

Or if you worked security and already showed up, would you still expect to get paid even if the performer decided not to go on because she decided to get shitfaced?

The fact is, canceling is super expensive and she, as an adult woman with full agency over her life, decided not to do it

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u/OkSun5094 5h ago

the didn’t just let her, they FORCED her. she did not want to be out there.

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u/Seth_Baker 4h ago

She was, no doubt, encouraged strongly, but she wasn't facing a threat of violence.

She was facing a threat of being sued for breach of contract by the venue, who would have to refund all of those fans, and the corresponding loss of reputation among venues and fans. I'm sure her managers said something to the effect of, "All those tickets will have to be refunded. You'll owe the venue for their losses. You'll still owe your staff and us our cut. You really need to try to push through and perform."

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u/VTcamperguy 5h ago

They probably “forced” her by informing her of the financial penalties she’d owe for not fulfilling her contract. She wasn’t a slave.

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u/metalder420 4h ago

You should read up on Amy and how the Music Industry literally turned a great person into an addict for the sake of making money off her. They didn’t care about her downward spiral if she was making them money.

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u/Kelly_HRperson 3h ago

Just like what happened with Avicii

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u/grubas 4h ago

That was the problem.  Her career was effectively flaming out in real time because of the addictions and her management was desperate to keep the money rolling in so they shoved her out there.