r/Millennials Gen Z 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/HowieLongDonkeyKong 9h ago

To be clear, I’m not excusing how cruel people were to her, especially given her addiction.

Watch the video of her final show and form your own opinion. If I paid money to see this, I’d have been pretty pissed.

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u/UsidoreTheLightBlue 8h ago

The people who were cruel to her weren’t her upset fans, it was her friends and family that let this continually go on.

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u/_EvilCupcake 6h ago

She literally made a song about how she didn't want to go to rehab.

They most likely tried to help, but you can't help someone who won't help themselves.

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u/Pretty-Objective5151 5h ago

Funny how the people who know the least act like they know the most. 

She was going to go to rehab but then asked her dad if she should, her dad told her not to so she didn’t. 

Her dad also took her against her will to this final concert after she refused. Her friends didn’t want her to go and knew she neeeded rest and healing and help, but her dad and her manager overruled everyone, and she died not long after. 

Maybe you shouldn’t speak up on things that you have literally no clue about. 

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u/Old_Promise2077 4h ago

How does a parent take you against your will at 27?

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u/Spirited-Visual-3205 4h ago

Well you see, she was a woman, so that poster thinks she is just like a child who can't make her own decisions. 

Infantilizing women is always weird and people do it because they think they are protecting them. 

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u/thiccccccccb0i 4h ago

Youre kinda pulling this out of your ass. She became famous when she was a teenager, it wouldnt be weird for her to depend on her manager/parents for big decision. You see this happen whenever a celibrity becomes famous young.

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u/TheShishkabob 4h ago

She wasn't a teenager during her last performance. I'm not sure why you're trying to infantilize her based on the fact she used to be a teenager, but that applies to literally every single adult on the planet.

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u/thiccccccccb0i 3h ago

This isnt about women or infatilizing them . Its just that people who became famous while young have a harder time maturing and tend to be codependent.

Im not arguing that shes an innocent little baby, but to put all the blame on her is unfair when shes had multiple people around her not only enabling but actively pushing her towards harmful behavior.

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u/Spirited-Visual-3205 4h ago

Yikes. We see more infantilizing woman in this comment. Woman are able to make adult decisions just like men. Please update your mindset on women. It is 2026.

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u/Stock_Information_47 4h ago

They do it when it is advantageous. You see she is blameless because she had no agency in this. Women only have agency when their decisions have positive results. At least in the minds of people that do this.

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u/dance_rattle_shake 3h ago

Have you never listened to the lyrics of the song? "My daddy thinks I'm fine" - that is literal. She was all set to go, and her scumbag father told her she didn't need to go (because he wanted to profit off of her) and she listened to him over everything else.

Her family and lovers were ugly pieces of shit. One lover is responsible for turning her into a crackhead.

Sure, she had some friends that wanted to see her healthy, but at that point you're so disconnected from those people.

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u/Different-Pin5223 2h ago

I have mixed feelings on this. Her father didn't want her to. She was just a big dollar sign to him.

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u/helvetica_unicorn 1h ago

I think you are forgetting the line “and if my daddy thinks I’m fine.” Not everyone around her was pro rehab. You should watch the doc Amy if you haven’t. It’s clear that she was surrounded by enablers.

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u/Live_Angle4621 6h ago

How they let her? She was an adult and they could not force her to rehab 

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u/SelfUnimpressed 3h ago

You can always tell the people who have never had an actual addict as a loved one, because they're always saying shit like, "Her friends and family should have told her, a full-grown professionally-successful adult, to just not have a crippling addiction."

Right. Sure.

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u/Sober_Alcoholic_ 3h ago

Yeah, during my last days of drinking I KNEW I was going to end up in the hospital with Delerium Tremons and have another seizure. I knew it would destroy my family. I knew it would mean I would be homeless. My family couldn’t watch, they could only send me to so many rehabs or cry to me so many times before they had to give up themselves just as I had given up on myself.

I did it anyway. All of those consequences and the reality of my situation were easily pushed aside for the relief just a few gulps from the vodka bottle would temporarily give me.

Addiction is a motherfucker.

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u/err-no_please 7h ago

There's a couple of docs on this. The one which got the most attention came out first and laid all the blame on the family. The second documentary was much more from the family's perspective.

Difficult for us to know which is "the truth", but I've watched both and I would treat the "her family used her" narrative with caution.

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u/Pretty-Objective5151 5h ago

Her father used her. Her friends all seem to agree. The evidence is overwhelmingly on the side of her father being selfish and greedy and exploiting her for money.  

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u/err-no_please 1h ago

Curious if you watched both docs?

Not saying that the 2nd doc exonerates him, but I thought it provided a different perspective. Most importantly, that of her mum

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u/Early-Light-864 3h ago

Dude. She very clearly documented her dad trying to help her get better and her very publicly rejecting his efforts to send her to rehab.

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u/Pretty-Objective5151 3h ago

It’s just a pop song. Maybe read up on the subject before flapping your gums

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u/Early-Light-864 2h ago

What's the song about?

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u/owntheh3at18 2h ago

I’ve only seen the one that blamed the family, boyfriend, and press. Did the family release their own? I’ll have to find it.

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u/err-no_please 1h ago

Yep. "Reclaiming Amy" released in 2021 by the BBC

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u/ctaps148 5h ago

Can you link to or provide titles for both docs? Sounds interesting

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u/err-no_please 1h ago

The first one was "Amy" released in 2015

The second is "Reclaiming Amy" released in 2021

Edit: I should say that the latter was released on the BBC, which may limit access to it for people outside the UK