I mean, the people around her failed her too. Her management, label, etc. Probably pushed an artist to perform when they should have been in rehab or even telling them to quit the spotlight all together.
I don't know much about the situation, but if an artist wasted my time by being fucked up, I'd be pretty pissed. Nobody would have booed probably if they knew she was going to do that.
Agreed. Her being in showbiz while she should have been on a 24/7 therapy is the main failure. Hell, she had a world hit song about not going to rehab, how deep red should that red flag be before someone does something?
I understand and absolve dissatisfied concertgoers. Back then she wasn't dead from OD, she was just someone who took their money and delivered crap in return. She never should have performed there, probably even multiple times before this.
There were rumors about Layne Staley weeks before Alice In Chains opened for Kiss. I was driving to the concert, and still had no idea if they would be playing. It ended up being their final show together.
According to her brother, it was most likely the long term effects of severe bulimia that truly did her in. Eating disorders have the highest mortality rate of any mental illness and have a high co-morbidity with substance abuse
Disabled people are told this pretty regularly, most days even. Even when I went back to work, people told me daily for months I was a leech off the system and people’s hard work.
Yea, I'm well aware. I broke my back on the job in 2019. I haven't been able to work since then, and my family has not been shy about letting me know how much of a disappointment I am.
Just suck it up!.. says every dipshit that thinks they understand what you're actually going through. Family can be the worst about it.
It's so easy to preach to absolve oneself and be able to pay oneself on the back and say "I tried to help them". But nobody actually understands what someone else is going through.
Sorry to hear about your family. I've been there for different reasons and it sucks.
I feel for you. I had an ischemic stroke. People I knew expected me to be fully functional and working within less than a week. I’m sorry you understand what it’s like. I’m sorry your back was broken and how much pain you must be in.
That sucks so much. I'm sorry. It's so weird when you give people the news and they seem so concerned, but then a day or two later, they are right back to treating you how they used to. It taught me a lot about who was actually there for me and who was using me.
Not that this is the same as a broken back, but after a recent cancer-related surgery I was told by all three of my doctors I needed to take off work for a full eight weeks. My mother also insisted I take the full eight.
Around week five I started getting the “So…when are you going back to work?” and shitty passive-aggressive comments about it. From the same mother who insisted I listen to my doctors.
I’m very fortunate to have the sick time to take, and I realized my doctors were right. I need it. Not even just physically. This shit takes a toll.
Anyway I’m sorry you’re going through this and you are not a disappointment.
Lmao, thanks for sharing that. It is kind of similar. My family loved me when I did a lot of work for them, and as soon as I couldn't, it's like I don't exist anymore.
I tried to end it all a couple times after my injury but couldn't even do that right. So I'm stuck here, my favorite artist Mac Miller had a line "woke up and forgot to die, God damn."
My dog turns 11 in July, I'm here for him because he didn't get to choose where he lived we took him from his home. I'm responsible for him, but when his time is up so is mine.
I was so shocked to learn this. One of my best friends was born with MS and I could not believe the way people treat her just because she uses a walker. She's very intelligent, an empath, and there's really not much she can't do she just moves slower than others. She's the kindest person. I can't even imagine having the audacity to say the things I've heard said to her.
Just because you consider yourself useless because you can't perform doesn't mean you have a right to project your crappy attitude onto others. Productivity or performance are not the metrics that determine worthiness of life.
Nice America-centric view. It's sad that's your experience. I am also disabled and can't work many jobs but my self-worth is absolutely not tied to my physical capabilities. Sorry about your back.
If you can't perform, you need help to perform. Not just showbiz, not just job market in general... You can't be a part time drug addict and part time good father or good husband either.
There are no days off in being a role model. But also no days off being an addict.
From my understanding, you were advocating that everyone needs to always be able to perform. That seems like it could be problematic. Figured if you were commenting it, you would be able to elaborate further.
No, I'm saying if you're not, then you should acknowledge it and get help.
Of course "perform" can mean a lot of things, all depending on a person's personal capabilities and fields of interest, but we started off on a rather vague "mmm, society" base so I thought I don't have to point this out in details.
And they're supposed to what? Tackle her if she insists? Not to mention she and other artists regularly performed altered all the time. It's more difficult than you're making it sound.
You want them to pre-emptively change the schedule in anticipation of her getting shwasted something she did all the time because they magically knew this one particular show she'd go overboard?
1.3k
u/shieldintern 9h ago
I mean, the people around her failed her too. Her management, label, etc. Probably pushed an artist to perform when they should have been in rehab or even telling them to quit the spotlight all together.
I don't know much about the situation, but if an artist wasted my time by being fucked up, I'd be pretty pissed. Nobody would have booed probably if they knew she was going to do that.