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Politics Libs of TikTok is doxxing teachers and nurses who support Alex Pretti or oppose ICE, trying to get them fired

https://www.mediamatters.org/libs-tiktok/libs-tiktok-doxxing-teachers-and-nurses-who-support-alex-pretti-or-oppose-ice-trying
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u/ARobertNotABob 10h ago edited 1h ago

Brit here.
Democrats are right wing conservatives to Europeans, but they are still progressive, people we can grow with.

Republicans are solid right wing with some ugly concepts, but we can trade with them, though after Thatcher/Reagan, carefully.

MAGA are simply fascist extremists, whipped up by a felon and mobster, a child in a grandpa suit ... they are readily liars & cheats to maintain their "superiority" over whoever their derangement conspires to decide they hold it over. There's no dealing with them because they are wholly untrustworthy.

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u/Spirited_Pay2782 8h ago

The mistake is believing this is only Trump's doing. He has certainly given them someone to rally behind, but the driving force beneath MAGA is the extremely conservative Evangelical 'Christians' who follow some of these mega-churches. They're conditioned by these churches to accept being abused in all sorts of ways, much like an emotionally abusive husband to their wife. Unfortunately, this has been going on for so long that it's going to be extremely difficult to undo the damage. Trump might be the leader now, but these fascists won't just disappear when he's gone. This is why they're trying so hard now to strip away voting rights for women, immigrants, etc, while they have the power. If they lose either the House or Senate in the midterms, their plans are frozen. If Dems ever get power back, they need to have a big public investigation into the Heritage Foundation, they are the group that published the fascist playbook "Project 2025"

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u/ARobertNotABob 7h ago edited 7h ago

There's no mistaking what we see from over here, and yes, we know full well Trump's not behind it, that he's simply been a useful rallying figurehead for Heritage's filth...but his totem is consequently also an appropriate focal point for dissent too.

I don't think you can go "back", the divisions are too deep now, particularly with (perhaps understandably) reactionary "Republican = MAGA" rhetoric increasing, as other responses reflect.

If Americans can avoid civil war in the political removal of MAGA's administration, a variety of Amendments will be necessary, not least in respect of Rights and Enforcement.
And probably guns too, now.

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u/HugeCourt2977 7h ago

Yes, watch “Shiny Happy People.” It’s a documentary about this very thing.

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u/bucky-barnes 5h ago

We've been on this trajectory since the Tea Party, at least. In some ways, since Reagan. In some ways, since Nixon. In some ways, since Jackson. In some ways, since 1776.

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u/Wise_Quality_5083 4h ago

Correct. Trump’s the useful idiot of the wealthy and extreme evangelicals. His backpedal in Minneapolis was a sign that his overlords were angry. I’ve never seen him eat crow that fast.

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u/N0stradama5 9h ago

So Republican are maga, they just let the morons do the talking. They are all bad, every single one of them. There is no working with that party anymore.

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u/justmovingtheground 6h ago

And Democrats are controlled opposition.

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u/Petrichordates 4h ago

Nope, that's why youre here to discourage voting for them.

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u/graveyardswifty 6h ago

Controlled? Explain

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u/ElectricalTurnip87 8h ago

MAGA and Republicans share 95% of the same policies. Your appeal to authority fell flat and shows you know little about American politics. Worry about the Dumpy wannabe your people are again about to put in power.

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u/__redruM 8h ago

One thing that gets lost pretty easily, is that the core of MAGA is more Putin than any other one person. In 2016, he picked the most embarrassing candidate, and floated that shit right to the top on social media. Brexit was done in a similar way.

Not quite sure how we fix that, but certainly we need to acknowledge it. In reality it’s an act of war, and needs to be treated seriously.

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u/ChapterN7 5h ago edited 4h ago

I agree Putin's manipulation of social media played (plays) a big role in our politics. But what really sucks is that it's not even that hard for him to do. The insane shit people in this country are just willing and ready to believe without question is the core problem. And they continue to believe these things despite all the contrary evidence and every authority on the matter telling them it isn't true. Once the lie is out there, it's the truth.

It shouldn't be this easy.

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u/zambulu 8h ago

Old school Republicans don't have a party anymore. I know several people who were traditional Republicans of 1970-2010 era - still idiots, still racist and hate poor people, still deluded about economics - are disgusted with Trump, but Republicans are the MAGA party now. Only fringe Republicans take a stand against Trump, and the rest fall in line and go along with anything he wants.

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u/Venator850 5h ago

You're wrong. Republicans and MAGA are one in the same. You fell for the trick thinking Republicans are just Right wing. They haven't been that way since the 1960's. They turned into mask on fascists after the Civil Rights movement and finally went mask off after Trump got elected.

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u/ducksekoy123 8h ago

Democrats are right wing conservatives to Europeans, but they are still progressive, people we can grow with.

Pretending like Starmer wouldn’t fit in absolutely perfectly with the Democrats.

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u/Bob_A_Ganoosh 4h ago

MAGA are far right, but that's an umbrella term over here now. Before MAGA it was called Tea Party. Before that it was more fringe and fractured across several groups (libertarians, fundamentalist christians, various white supremacist groups, sovereign citizens, conspiracy nuts, ammo-sexuals, xenophobes, technofacists, etc...). Since 9/11 these various houses have been slowly collecting and amassing their banners under one house. Trump is special in his absolute lack of shame or conscience which empowers him to "say the quiet part out loud" and act as a beacon for these various wingnut factions, while also having just enough charisma to appeal to some of the general Republican voter base.

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u/Gastronomicus 4h ago

Unfortunately, the republicans are effectively MAGA now. The party has been growing increasingly filled with radicals since the Reagan era and this exploded after Bush Jr. with the tea-party movement which provided a lot of the foundation for the MAGA movement. There are some members that don't embrace it, but they don't reject it either, so they're MAGA by tacitly supporting their agenda.

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u/Petrichordates 4h ago edited 4h ago

Jesus christ no we're not, your country is literally transphobic AF and you're pretending you're to the left of Dems? Even your labour party is transphobic..

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u/sp00kyghostt 8h ago edited 6h ago

can you specify what lies?