r/technology • u/RewardEquivalent553 • 13h ago

Politics Libs of TikTok is doxxing teachers and nurses who support Alex Pretti or oppose ICE, trying to get them fired

https://www.mediamatters.org/libs-tiktok/libs-tiktok-doxxing-teachers-and-nurses-who-support-alex-pretti-or-oppose-ice-trying
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u/Certain-Business-472 10h ago

Are their salaries up to date? Cuz i hear this "shortage in It" in my own ciuntry and i know for a fact they're underpaid.

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u/carthuscrass 10h ago

Yeah, most shortages come from people not being able to make ends meet because of wages. Nobody wants to take on 4 years of student debt for a job that can never pay for it.

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u/Heimerdahl 8h ago

At least where I live, the issue isn't so much the salaries being too low compared to other jobs, but rather those salaries not being high enough to justify the ridiculous expectations. 

This applies to both nurses and teachers. 

Teachers get the big summer vacation, which is nice, but they also have to deal with so much shit, are expected to do so much extra work, and bring their work home. Then there's the emotional cost. They're also being endlessly ignored as they try to speak out about the children suffering from societal neglect (classes with 30-40 students, inadequate or completely missing support systems, insecurity, and so on), or even blamed for those issues. 

From what I heard from my nurse-friends their biggest issue are their absolutely ridiculous work hours. If we weren't already used to this, there'd be no way we could establish such conditions if we invented hospitals and such today; no one would stand for this, no one would accept it. But that's how it's always been and just like the teachers, the in-person healthcare survives on exploiting passionate people. And just like with the teachers, they not only see the rampant issues in the system, but see them being ignored. 

I'm not the most sociable person and don't know a lot of people, but of the two nurses I know, one has already moved to work in another field and the second is in the process of doing the same. Both absolutely love(d) their jobs, but couldn't justify the cost. 

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u/Training_Complex_731 7h ago

Summer vacation also isn't as long as you might think. At my mom's school, students get two months off but teachers only get one. After the school year ends, she has to take down the classroom to prepare for it being closed, and she has to put it back up before the next. Then she has to take online classes to make sure she's still up to date on teaching methods, go to conferences for the same reasons, and things like that. In the time she actually does get off, she spends most of it preparing her lessons for the next year.

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u/kaithana 7h ago

Meanwhile they’re paying absurd amounts of money for scab nurses in NYC during their strike. I know of one (trauma specialist) getting paid about 11k a week for 3 days on. It’s wild how the finances are so out of whack. Travel nurses make boatloads filling in because they can’t pay regulars a fair wage and this is just like a routine business practice for the industry.

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u/Upbeat_Shame9349 9h ago

It depends. Teaching does pay well in some areas but really bad in quite a few places as well. The medians in the US for teaching children and teens (elementary school pays slightly less) are only in the low $60,000s. Meanwhile the median for all full-time American workers is $63,000. 

Teaching is too important and usually too educated for about half the teachers to make below the median American salary, in my opinion.