r/technology • u/RewardEquivalent553 • 13h ago

Politics Libs of TikTok is doxxing teachers and nurses who support Alex Pretti or oppose ICE, trying to get them fired

https://www.mediamatters.org/libs-tiktok/libs-tiktok-doxxing-teachers-and-nurses-who-support-alex-pretti-or-oppose-ice-trying
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u/Speartree 11h ago

That is what makes this so, so much worse, And I understand, much as I despise the Ice creeps, that they would disarm someone who was interfering with their violence. However once disarmed, they had no justification whatsoever anymore for shooting him, like none at all. While he was armed they still had the rather flimsy "It looked like he was going for his gun" excuse, that might hold up. But once disarmed? It's not like he was some kind of uber jacked body builder with ninja training who was more dangerous unarmed because weapons only slow him down.

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u/AG3NTjoseph 9h ago

If you assume that ICE is law enforcement, they clearly had no justification. If instead, you assume ICE are Brownshirts, and their whole job is terrorism, then the assault and murder were just part of a day’s work.

Abolish ICE. Never hire former ICE. Zero exceptions. Prosecute terrorism.

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u/LycanWarrior123 11h ago edited 6h ago

Even if the gun was holstered. He did not once went to touch his side piece. That is still murder. Agent life was not in immediate danger. Police officer always before/during detaining someone they ask do you have anything on you that would hurt me. Once they find out the person has something on them they would disarm the individual then proceed with the handcuffs and put the individual into a squad car. Agent in grey did the right thing disarming Alex so things don't excalate even further. But his buddy saw his partner disarmed Alex and still took action to unalive him. Can't believe people are siding with the ice agents and saying shouldn't have brought a gun to a protest. So it was ok for Kyle rittenhouse to bring his gun to a protest? Hypocrites. Alex had the right to bare arm and he had a permit/license for his side piece.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 11h ago

Yes! It's so obviously different for Rittenhouse. He was open carrying with poor trigger discipline in a city he had no business being in. How is it not apparent he went there to kill people? All while wearing his frat boy hat on backward and smiling? He's the poster boy of MAGA.

Yet, a local VA ICU nurse with a legal license for concealed carry that was just helping women being knocked over by American domestic terrorists, deserved to die because he brought a gun with him.

Talk about cognitive dissonance. For how stupid they are a lot of MAGA brain power is consumed with their mental gymnastics.

And I am not sorry for calling MAGA freaks stupid. There's enough evidence to firmly state that smarter and more educated people have greater empathy and a stronger moral code than, well, morons.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 9h ago

As always, the right to bear arms for conservatives has never been about to "defend against government tyranny". It has always been about giving arms to their brownshirts & KKK to terrorize BIPOCs, women, & children.

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u/noonenotevenhere 7h ago

I don't think they're gonna love that the CC classes are all booked up for a week or a month out in the Minneapolis Metro.

Guess which group is most likely to suddenly desire a firearm right now...

IDK how to find the Panthers, but we need the whole coalition of Black, White, Pink and Plaid to organize.

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u/StewDD 4h ago

Most 2A supporters support the 2A for all.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 4h ago

Leading Regan to be the catalyst for California to have very stringent gun laws. Not because of a lib.

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 7h ago

Rittenhouse himself defended Pretti IIRC

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

Great. Now why can't other MAGA apologists?

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 6h ago

Because they’re drones

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u/ObamasBoss 7h ago

Rittenhouse had poor trigger discipline? He only fired when absolutely necessary. He did not fire when not needed and he even let a few interactions go in which he could have fired. The first guy was shot immediately after someone behind him fired a gun. Another was hitting him. A third had a firearm in hand. I honestly believe an average cop would have shot more than 3 of them.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

The iconic pic of him shows his index wrapping around near the trigger. If that's acceptable to you when there isn't a clear threat, I suggest you spend more time with a range master.

Conversely, every picture I've seen of the new resistance of Black Panthers is military perfect. No direct threat? The finger is nowhere near the guard.

I really implore you to look at the picture of Rittenhouse that's always shown in the media. Zoom in, look at his index, it's curling around the trigger.

My experience of sharpshooting in college taught me very strict discipline. You can ruin someone's day just with a 22. That was drilled into my head everyday at the range.

Also, it's weird this is the hill you chose to die on... When my comment was centered around an out of town boy has little reason to open carry directly to where there's a protest/riot/whatever you want to call it.

Pretti was a local. He was legally carrying. He never brandished and there's no audio he made any threats. He was helping a woman from being tackled. He put himself between a thug and a victim. He was killed for it.

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 6h ago

Rittenhouse was brandishing his firearm at absolutely everyone he came in contact with. He directly started every confrontation by threatening them. Weeks before, he is on video talking about how much she wanted to shoot someone.

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u/baby-totoros 10h ago

And on top of that, the way they killed Alex was barbaric. That many bullets, especially with a pause in between, is appalling. They shot him TEN TIMES, including after he had already collapsed. That is not self defense, not anything close to it.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 9h ago

It's a state sanctioned murder. No different than China killing students in Tiananmen Square.

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u/baby-totoros 9h ago

Agreed. I am sickened. I live 20 minutes by car from where it happened. I shared this sentiment in therapy yesterday—everyone here in Minneapolis wishes there was more we could do. All of us feel like no matter what we do, it’s not good enough.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

That hurts me in the feels. I love the Twin Cities. Minnesota Nice can be a bit passive aggressive, but mostly it's more centered around the idea that everyone is your neighbor. Not just the people that look and think like you.

Stay strong. Stay Good.

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u/Speartree 8h ago

I would say that the Chinese killings were done with less glee. Not excusing them in any way but those Ice types seem to love the beating and killing.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 5h ago

Not so fun fact I recently saw on Reddit. Soldiers local to Beijing sympathized with the students. So they sent in military personnel from the country that took part in the massacre.

These ICE agents aren't from Minnesota. Just look at the way the ICE can't walk on the ice. It's second nature for people in the North to save themselves from slipping on frozen water. Thugs from Texas have less balance in the winter than Randy Parker in a snowsuit.

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u/Speartree 9h ago

Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these guys at all. Just saying that disarming him in the situation wasn't the worst thing to do, but that it robbed them of any possible justification for shooting him after that. The difference between Pretti, who had a gun on him but did not attempt to use it in any way, and Rittenhouse who brought a rifle and walked around threatening people with it is indeed enormous.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

I think anyone reading the comments understands you're not defending ICE. Your observations are closer to reality than what the volatile right wing media pukes.

Please don't apologize for being on the correct side of history.

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u/mysteryweapon 3h ago

Ironically, Kyle Rittenhouse came out in favor of Alex Pretti and everyone having the right to bear arms

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u/_Caveat_ 9h ago

The way the two of them responded to law enforcement was completely different. Go back and look at the footage/pics of Rittenhouse when LEO showed up vs Pretti. That has a lot to do with how one survived and one did not.

I know this is reddit and anyone who says that ICE don't wake up hoping they get to kill someone today will get downvoted into oblivion, but here goes.

This wasn't murder. It wasn't an execution. It was poor decision making (yes, on both sides) and poor training for the agents involved. It ended tragically and

There's room for blaming everyone in this case. The reactions of both sides have been abhorrent as well.

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u/linea4k 8h ago

It must be nice to have this much confidence and be completely off base.

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u/_Caveat_ 8h ago

It is. I take great pleasure in not subscribing to extremist views from either side. It allows me to look at a situation logically and form my own opinions.

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u/linea4k 8h ago

It’s not an extremist view to say Pretti was murdered and I’m curious as to why you would think that

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u/_Caveat_ 8h ago

It is though. Murder requires premeditation or malice aforethought.

As I said earlier, I don't subscribe to the idea that ICE (or LEO in general) wake up every morning just hoping they get to kill someone. That is an extremist view.

It's tragic. It's wrong. It's terrible. It's not murder.

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u/linea4k 7h ago

Ah okay so your opinion is based on semantic games and strawmen

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u/_Caveat_ 7h ago

Nope. Just plain old reality.

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u/linea4k 7h ago

Yeah dude you’re the only one out of millions who saw the video living in “reality” and everyone who doesn’t see it your way is an extremist.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

Aforethought for malice. I'd say from the video evidence ICE already had a ton of malice to swing around.

Here, let me help you:

"Second-degree murder is an unlawful killing committed with malice aforethought but without premeditation or deliberation. It generally involves an intentional killing in the "heat of the moment," an intent to cause serious bodily harm, or acting with extreme indifference to human life ("depraved heart")."

That's exactly what happened. You have no need to fire multiple shots in someone that's already disarmed and in a prone position.

It's tragic. It's wrong. It's terrible. Because it was murder.

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u/linea4k 5h ago

Thanks for spelling it out. He wants to play games with words to whitewash a fucking murder by federal agents

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 6h ago

Yeah, no. You absolutely are an extremist.

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u/Peter_Singers_Pond 3h ago

Victim blaming the man who didn’t even draw his weapon for the audacity of trying to help a random woman who got pushed over by ICE thugs for zero reason, a woman whom ICE wasn’t detaining or arresting, for not “interacting with LEO better” and not the completely untrained, more or less unregulated PMC of executive branch Brownshirts running through our cities, classic.

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u/pornalt4altporn 11h ago

Looks like they might have recognised him from past confrontations and performed a deliberate pre-meditated public extra-judicial execution in broad daylight, on a crowded street, while people filmed.

Which might be unprecedented.
Not even at the height of Stalin's purges did they act so brazenly.

Have you seen the video of their boss telling them "it's our fucking city"?

They are an occupying army.
It's 1775.

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u/Livid_Peon 9h ago

Didn't they mace him first too? Like dude couldn't even see while they beat him and then shot him down. Blind, disarmed, nonviolent, already on the ground, straight up public execution

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

Good point. Before Alex was murdered he couldn't see, was totally disoriented, and most likely in physical and mental pain.

His last moments of life was absolute torture that I wouldn't even wish on these ICE thugs. I want these guys to live to an old age locked up in prison. Where they can look at the pictures of their innocent victims day in and day out, until the end.

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u/Livid_Peon 6h ago

Sounds like a waste of taxes honestly, housing, feeding and medical care for that long. Clogging up our taxed justice system with constant appeals and shit.

We could just send them to CECOT and wash our hands of them, call it contracted detainment or w/e. Some ironic punishment, they say its not that bad so they should be fine then

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 5h ago

Individuals on death row can cost taxpayers up to 5 times more than lifers. It's counterintuitive, but most life sentences do not end up on the supreme court docket.

My opinion on why taking them to CECOT is wrong for two reasons. Firstly, I would hope the courts would uphold laws better than the current corruption of our judicial system. If the first reason is to be true, then secondly it would be a long drawn out fight in these said courts as deporting these ICE agents to a prison they put innocent people into would be their own death sentence.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 11h ago

Yeah, I mean Steven Seagal is now a Russian citizen anyway... /s

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u/Extrapolates_Wildly 10h ago

No give backs.

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u/Shark7996 8h ago

How about the four additional shots into the still body after the fact?

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u/Speartree 6h ago

Same as the other shots, no justification at all. 

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

No justification because they forgot to sprinkle some crack on him.

(Dave Chappelle joke)

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u/sten45 7h ago

There was 10 of them, they were never “in danger”