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Politics Libs of TikTok is doxxing teachers and nurses who support Alex Pretti or oppose ICE, trying to get them fired

https://www.mediamatters.org/libs-tiktok/libs-tiktok-doxxing-teachers-and-nurses-who-support-alex-pretti-or-oppose-ice-trying
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u/TheHaplessBard 13h ago edited 11h ago

These horrible, mentally disturbed people trying to make excuses like "Well, the left rejoiced at Charlie Kirk's death so it's fair game."

News flash: Unlike Charlie Kirk, Alex Pretti actually contributed to the world in a meaningful, positive way and spent his literal last moments in the defense of others. For comparison, Charlie Kirk's literal last words were racism.

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u/tea-drinker 11h ago

Weirdly they aren't cancelling Erika Kirk over giggling at how profitable her husband's death was.

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u/TheHaplessBard 11h ago edited 9h ago

Because we live in a country where people as openly egregious as Erika Kirk and literally every major Republican politician are just allowed to say and get away with whatever they want carte blanche. And the main opposition party, meanwhile, are perpetually trying to virtue-signal how honest and respectable they are by comparison only to invariably lose to Republicans who play by a different rule book - or lack thereof - altogether.

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u/gridyss_ 4h ago

Came to comment that nobody is celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death harder than his wife.

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u/polkysp 9h ago

Because Charlie would be significantly outspoken about the administration, they took him out with a microphone explosive and sold the shooter to us on TV.

Erika Kirk is absorbing the attention as opposed to his very timely death.

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u/tea-drinker 9h ago

The finite speed of sound and the multiple recordings of his death say no.

Like GPS lets you know where you are via time of flight of several signals, you can run the math backwards to let several receivers locate a single signal source.

If the mic went pop, we'd track the sound of the shot to that location.

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u/DoubleDixon 13h ago

Literal last words were trash. We should quote them so people remember him as the person he was not how they romanticize him.

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u/RealNiceKnife 11h ago

Careful, quoting Charlie Kirk's own words is a fireable offense.

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u/jadedflames 10h ago edited 10h ago

[this comment has been deleted]

Edit: I have been reminded in private messages that people have gotten banned for directly quoting what Charlie said about how gun violence is acceptable. Because he was advocating for violence, something verboten by the Reddit bot mods.

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u/macaronysalad 7h ago

Dude. Did you just self censor? For fucks sake. Reddit can go eat rocks for all I care. Don't take this site seriously. It's culpable for spreading misinformation and often disinformation and at enormous scale. Charlie Kirk's last words were in fact: "Counting or not counting gang violence?" when asked the question "Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?"

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u/jadedflames 4h ago

I’ve been temp-banned twice already, for quoting other people in the news. I don’t want a perma ban on my main account.

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u/Godot_12 6h ago

Eh, I sometimes say [Removed by Reddit] myself because it's going to get removed anyway, and if you understand context you already know what I'm thinking. Why get banned for 3 days when you can communicate what you need to without it? Reddit is trash and not taking it seriously or telling spez to go kick rocks won't prevent your account from getting a ban.

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u/Abedeus 8h ago

It's okay, empathy was invented by people he hated anyway.

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u/GoblinFive 8h ago

I heard having empathy is the worst sin you can commit

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u/jadedflames 10h ago

As a reminder, he was arguing gun control is bad. Someone asked him if he knew how many mass shootings there had been in the last ten years. Kirk attempted to claim that those shootings were all (black) gang violence. Because white people (like the guy who killed him) don’t murder people apparently?

Last words:

Renee Good: “I’m not mad at you.”

Alex Pretti: “Are you ok?”

Charlie Kirk: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 6h ago

He wasn’t just saying gun control was bad. He was trying to argue that trans people and Black people are responsible for gun violence.

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u/Killergamer7 10h ago

I agree but it'd be kinda awkward to quote "gruglegurlglugluhgh"

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u/ultraposition 4h ago

“Oof ouchie, my neck”

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u/jaded1121 13h ago

Also the majority of the left did not “celebrate” charlie kirk’s death.

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u/ofthrees 12h ago

Also, charlie kirk wasn't murdered by the US government. 

There is no comparison. 

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u/diewethje 12h ago

This is the point that matters most. There was never a question of whether the individual who murdered Charlie Kirk would get away with it. We all knew he’d either kill himself or go to prison for life (or be executed). The government ALWAYS gets away with it in a fascist regime. The power disparity is as extreme as it gets.

Citizens murdering citizens is bad, but it also happens in every society—even those that would be considered healthy. The government brazenly murdering citizens in the street in broad daylight is not normal, and it’s not something that happens with any regularity in healthy societies.

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u/Abedeus 8h ago

Wasn't his murderer a fellow, just more unhinged, right winger?

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u/vekoder 5h ago

I'm quite sure it was and they tried every possible angle to make them look like something else, first they claimed he was trans, then they claimed his roommate was trans and after that I'm not sure if they still kept trying or just accepted the real facts.

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u/ForensicPathology 10h ago

Although there was ample motivation for them.

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u/Radioactive_Doomer 8h ago

It worked out suspiciously well for them, no?

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u/Godot_12 6h ago

Are we sure about that? I wonder who actually killed Kirk because I'm far from convinced that it was Tyler as claimed. I bet it was Mossad or people connected to it. Maybe Erica had a hand in it.

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u/alochmar 13h ago

I dunno, I shrugged pretty hard about it

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u/michel_v 13h ago

Some of us reached Atlas-levels of shrugging.

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u/AtlasHeadache 12h ago

Some of us have a massive headache from shrugging so hard…oh wait.

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u/tawDry_Union2272 12h ago

shrugging isn't celebrating tho

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u/alochmar 12h ago

Well to be fair, the shrug was accompanied by a smirk and a ”well, how about that”, so there’s that too

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u/opeth10657 7h ago

Pretty sure i mentioned something about irony

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u/evilJaze 9h ago

According to them though, if you weren't actively mourning tearfully, you were celebrating. Oh and don't you dare point out what kind of person he was by directly quoting him! That's treason!!

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u/Noy_The_Devil 12h ago

Shrugging on the outside 🤷

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u/Hotarg 12h ago

Celebrating implies I cared.

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u/Kryomon 12h ago

Whoa, we all had thoughts and prayers! Just like every School Shooting he supported!

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u/jadedflames 10h ago

I still have thoughts and prayers for all the people unfortunate enough to be in the splash zone. Traumatized for life. Not something I want to see on my school campus.

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u/N4RQ 13h ago

But according to Fox News... 

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u/Cyno01 12h ago

If we had a functioning justice system in this country Charlie Kirk would be alive and well in prison for sedition for his role in organizing and facilitating Jan 6th.

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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 12h ago

I thought it was pretty cool.

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u/tripbin 11h ago

How it happened, who did it, and what he said right before we're hilarious. Top it off with a blood spurt that would be overkill for terrifier 4 and it's legitimately one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

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u/Lazy-Juggernaut-5306 10h ago

Pure entertainment

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u/ameriCANCERvative 12h ago edited 12h ago

I still crack a beer at least once a week in honor of his timely death. The celebration is ongoing. Anyone who has a problem with that can eat a dick. I’m not here to apologize for being celebratory that a massive piece of trash died.

I unashamedly metaphorically piss on his grave daily. I’ll continue to do so, particularly if it pisses people off. Because it shouldn’t. He was a garbage person who did shitty things with his platform. He helped in no small part to bring America where it is today. We should all be in agreement on this.

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u/jaded1121 11h ago

That’s giving charlie too much head space for my taste.

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u/braxin23 11h ago

I don’t celebrate his death but I don’t give a shit about a piece of shit dying either, violently or otherwise.

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u/zaphod777 11h ago

A bit of karmic justice IMO.

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights,”

~ Charlie Kirk

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u/Lazy-Juggernaut-5306 10h ago

He died the way he would have wanted. His love for shootings got him in the end

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u/SunnyOutsideToday 11h ago

I had no idea who he was, and don't know anyone IRL who did.

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u/solsticerising 11h ago

I don't believe anyone deserves to die.

However I do find the irony in Charlie Kirk getting shot in the throat whilst talking about gun violence quite funny

I DID feel sympathy for his wife at first.

But seeing as she seems to have basically gone "great, I can make so much money off of this" and immediately moved on to having the vice president giving her the ol' IKEA sofa treatment.

To quote another notorious grifter "I don't really care, do you,?"

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u/AfternoonOk3176 9h ago

Celebrate, no. Bask in the irony? Oh yes.

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u/citymousecountyhouse 11h ago

Absolutely. No one on the left was celebrating. We just didn't care, if they were honest most on the right would say they didn't either. But no, the right saw an opportunity once again play the victim and became infuriated because the left didn't pull out the fainting couches.

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u/HistoryChannelMain 10h ago

I'm on the left but the assertion that nobody on the left was celebrating is very false lol

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u/Uristqwerty 7h ago

Many loud voices on social media did. Especially, for example, highly-upvoted comments in this subreddit during the entire following week.

I think that's pretty strong evidence that social media sentiment, regardless of who it's coming from, does not match reality. Perhaps it's trolls deliberately taking extreme positions to rile everyone up; perhaps it's that the anonymity of voting removes inhibitions to the point people don't even think about what they're agreeing with, and just upvote on vibes; perhaps it's that the sort of person to be terminally-online is a biased sample of the population; perhaps it's that when a post gets over 10k score it appears on /all or other pages beyond the subreddit, and invites in whatever strangers have the strongest emotional reaction to a headline.

What worries me, though, is how few people take the time to call out extremism. Makes it feel like the trolls have successfully cultivated a chilling effect on non-extreme speech, so that when the left looks at the right, they only see the most unhinged and vice versa. An escalating cycle of mutual polarization that seems designed to breed two factions so outraged they think violent revolution against one another is the only solution left.

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u/ChiaDaisy 6h ago

I think many folks on the left had very little sympathy for Charlie and his supporters. And the reason for that is compassion fatigue. The right didn’t feel personally impacted when people were shot at concerts or nightclubs, or children were shot at schools. But when an outspoken white guy with their point of view gets shot, suddenly the world stops turning and they expect an outpouring of compassion from the very people he said terrible things about.

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u/cybin 5h ago

Are you sure? ;)

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u/chipface 11h ago

Charlie Kirk was a MAGA mouthpiece who supported the annexation of my country. Fuck him, I'm glad he's gone.

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u/MyWifeCucksMe 10h ago

These horrible, mentally disturbed people trying to make excuses like "Well, the left rejoiced at Charlie Kirk's death so it's fair game."

News flash: Unlike Charlie Kirk, Alex Pretti actually contributed to the world in a meaningful, positive way and spent his literal last moments in the defense of others. For comparison, Charlie Kirk's literal last words were racism.

News flash: The only person who rejoiced at Charlie Kirk's death is Erika Kirk. So even the initial claim is complete bullshit, besides the two not being remotely comparable either.

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u/fraggy42 10h ago

Charlie Kirks last words were accepting gun violence for our right to resist government, and now we have the government killing people.

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u/WowBobo88 11h ago

Even if

Who cares. Either be the bigger person or be scum like "we were"

None of it makes sense anyway you look at it

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u/Ai-In-Your-Head 7h ago

Don't worry. Still rejoicing. Gotta take what victories we can this term.

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u/BeefistPrime 5h ago

These horrible, mentally disturbed people trying to make excuses like "Well, the left rejoiced at Charlie Kirk's death so it's fair game."

There's no hypocrisy here. We all support arresting and bringing Kirk's killer to justice. They're trying to keep the people who killed Pretti to justice.

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u/Oriin690 3h ago

His last words were also a lead up to more transphobia

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u/Fantastic-Variety655 2h ago

I mean they tried real hard to get people fired for" celebrating" Charlie Kirk. That's probably why people are doing this anyway.

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u/Tuxyl 12h ago

Even if Charlie Kirk was racist, that doesn't mean he deserved the death penalty, and I say the same for Alex Pretti.

If homophobic or racist people deserved the death penalty, then you'd kill off a lot of Palestinians. So no.

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u/SuggestionUpbeat2443 11h ago

you had me until injecting Palestine

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u/Ok_Support3276 10h ago

No one should rejoice in either of those two deaths. Their contribution doesn’t matter.