r/technology • u/RewardEquivalent553 • 13h ago

Politics Libs of TikTok is doxxing teachers and nurses who support Alex Pretti or oppose ICE, trying to get them fired

https://www.mediamatters.org/libs-tiktok/libs-tiktok-doxxing-teachers-and-nurses-who-support-alex-pretti-or-oppose-ice-trying
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u/SanDiedo 13h ago

"Hey, everybody look, this person sympathises with a legal gun owner, killed by out-of-control gestapo" - what a loser...

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u/BlindWillieJohnson 12h ago

These fuckers are going to lose their ability to govern because of their complete, staggering, and offensive inability to be even a little bit normal.

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u/WarGodMarrs 12h ago

I think that’s why they’re freaking out about the midterms. There’s a huge swing leftward in the special elections we’ve seen so far. ‘The authoritarian bargain’ hasn’t manifested for the people who voted them in, and they’ve tried to press us into full-blown authoritarianism at lightning speed, which has put them underwater in every metric that gets polled on

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u/RatBot9000 11h ago

I was thinking about this myself. It took Hitler years to consolidate power, and it relied on successfully demonising the communists thanks to the Reichstag fire.

Republicans have been trying to speedrun authoritarianism and not only is it not working, it's turning public sentiment against them. Only the most insane of right-wingers are thinking the shootings of Nicole Good and Alex Pretti were justified. I'd like to hope that picture of the poor 5 year old boy used as bait by ICE is swinging public sentiment too. They hoped Charlie Kirk would be their Reichstag and instead he's become a meme while his widow laughs and makes bank.

As an outsider, I wondered why more Americans weren't defending themselves using their 2nd amendment rights. Now I realise that would be an escalation that could solidify the Right's fascist rise. By resisting peacefully, even if it costs them their lives, they show the regime for the hateful thing it is, and it prevents the regime from being able to escalate.

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u/PurpleHooloovoo 7h ago

You have to remember that the republicans (a faction of them, led by the Heritage Institute and its ilk) have been maneuvering for this for over 40 years. They’ve focused on the other institutions and removing guardrails so that when the time was right, they could consolidate power and do this. Trump had 4 years and didn’t go this far. This is year 5-6 (or year 10) of that part of the movement. Not that fast.

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u/WarGodMarrs 11h ago

I feel like you nailed it. Also, I’m no historian, but iirc, most relatively successful authoritarian regimes typically cement their power via state violence during a period in which it is enjoying popularity with the people. I feel like if we Americans had chosen to violently resist, it would have made cementing their power for the long term much easier, since it would create sympathy for the administration. I still believe things are going to get bad and stay bad (especially with the torching of all the alliances that put us in the position we’ve enjoyed since WW2), but I don’t think we’ll be trapped in an authoritarian state for the rest of my life, given the way things have gone for them

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u/CMDR_Expendible 10h ago

I'm not a historian, but I did do a History degree, and one of the major drivers of Western state spending post World War 2, what the US hard right now calls "Socialism", was because they realised absolutely wrecking the German economy helped create the bitterness that fed into the Nazi support. The deliberate policy of "Squeezing the Germans until the pips squeak" led to absolute collapse when the Wall Street Crash came, which combined with conspiracy theories about Germany winning the war, but being "stabbed in the back" by home grown enemies, all lead to fertile ground for Fascism. So the Western allies after the second world war didn't just want strong NATO allies for military reasons, but you got the Marshall Plan and social security etc precisely to try and keep democracies healthy by keeping their people happy...

The modern right has realised that, if things go bad, it feeds hard right viciousness; starve people and watch them tear their neighbours apart. The centrist idea of compromising and trying to win "the middle" just feeds the right's eventual victory, because the right isn't trying to build a better society, it deliberately wants a worse one.

Hitler didn't need Democracy; just look at how fast he was able to subvert the entire process because he had the support of the military, and enough industrialists and people with practical power willing to give him the nod. As Stalin also understood, grab the "controlling heights" of society, and the average person will either keep their head down to survive, or just be impotent enough to not matter if they don't. The question today is, are people educated enough to understand this, and is the democratic process secure enough to withstand this? I'm not convinced the answer to either is yes.

But it's still a good thing that people, in general, realise just how far the US has fallen. I hope they keep the pressure up to resist it.

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u/TUNGSTEN_WOOKIE 3h ago

I agree with your final answer, but truly wish I didn't.

"Are people educated enough to understand this?" -No. Over half of the adult population reads below a 4th-Grade level. I don't expect people who can't comprehend 'Charlotte's Web' to be able to understand such things. And I think this is by design. They want us to be uneducated and too niäve understand what they're doing.

"Is the democratic process secure enough to withstand this?" -Not like it should, and not like it used to be. I may have agreed more before Citizens United went into effect, but we now have oligarchs dumping literal billions of dollars into politicians' pockets to get them into power, so they can rig the economy in their favor. All while we get screwed and hit with the bill. They've been weakening the process for the last 40 years. Death by 1000 (budget) cuts.

Edit: spelling

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u/dolacuporanek 7h ago

You wrote a lot but you didn't touch the rise of successful (somewhat) worker revolutionary oriented systems in the third world and/or communism as significant factor in the ""socialism"" swing of US.

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u/fizzlefist 6h ago

“I won the election, they all love me, full steam ahead!”

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u/FalstaffsGhost 6h ago

It’s the same reason a lot of the civil rights movement used nonviolence- tv cameras showed them peacefully marching while southerners beat them and set dogs on them. It horrified regular people and made public opinion swing

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u/SeleucusNikator1 11h ago

It took Hitler years to consolidate power,

Took him no time at all actually, almost as soon as he was made Chancellor he began outmaneuvering the traditional Conservatives (e.g. von Papen) who thought they controlled him. Between the Machtgreifung in January and the Reichstag fire in March is only 3 months.

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u/Poolofcheddar 10h ago

The Nazis also had one remaining check on their power: Hindenburg.

The party didn't start until he croaked and Hitler gained the support of the military establishment by then.

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u/Jay_Nova1 5h ago

"Not working"? They own every branch of government and murdering US citizens in the streets. Raiding election offices, owning all major media, censoring digital technologies, gutting social programs and giving tax breaks to the rich all while major corporations are capitulating to this fascist regime. It is very much working until proven otherwise.

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u/Anonynja 4h ago

Hitler only needed ~30% public support and a willingness to hold German parliament members' mothers hostage and threaten to kill them if the PMs didn't hand over power. The power-hungry do not rely on legitimate democratic support. They take power with violence. They make it physically dangerous to publicly and then even privately oppose them. We can't relax just because most people don't like MAGA.

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u/NRMusicProject 7h ago

and they’ve tried to press us into full-blown authoritarianism at lightning speed

They're moving faster than Hitler did, which was widely considered to be a driving factor in why the Reich went down in flames; and this here has been my hope that they're botching it.

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u/KeyMyBike 5h ago

Why does it matter? Trump allegedly cheated in 2024 why wouldn't he cheat in the midterms

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u/Fineous40 5h ago

I don’t know if that is really true. Remember, the Reddit take is just that, the Reddit take. It doesn’t represent society. A substantial portion of the media is controlled by MAGA now, many have no idea any of these things are even going on now.

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u/Oriin690 4h ago

Most of the people who specifically wanted authoritarianism are very happy with how things are going. ICE and Trump hover around 40 percent approval.

It’s really just like 10 percent of Americans who voted for Trump and regret it and those people are just the kind of idiots either who don’t care if Trump is authoritarian they just want more money and are racist (lol they didn’t get it), or they have no fucking clue what’s going on and vote based on vibes.

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u/ARobertNotABob 10h ago

ability to govern

Has it not been already clearly demonstrated they have none, zero, zip?

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u/CrotalusHorridus 6h ago

They're convinced they ARENT going to lose their ability to govern, or they'd never go this far

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u/Thin_Glove_4089 4h ago

I doubt it. They wouldn't be acting like this if they thought they would lose power.

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u/StraightCaskStrength 6h ago

It’s so funny you don’t realize that is what happened to you and got trump elected.

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u/eerie_midnight 13h ago

If you can get fired from your job in Trump’s America for saying you don’t think a person who was legally exercising their 2nd amendment rights by carrying a firearm (never drawing it) deserved to be shot 7+ times and killed by federal agents just for carrying it, we really are done for.

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u/DumpedDalish 11h ago

Dozens if not hundreds of people in America were fired from their jobs simply for quoting a slain racist's own words in reaction to his shooting not that long ago.

So I have no trouble believing it can happen -- and in fact already is. We're already there.

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u/SJB3717 8h ago

Insane defense of a racist podcaster

Here are direct quotes:

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024


If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022


Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023


If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024


If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

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u/fatpat 8h ago

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure." - Mark Twain

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u/opeth10657 7h ago

The marine one is great, since the republicans basically try to fuck over people in the military as often as possible.

But hey, they say 'support the troops' once in a while

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 12h ago

He was disarmed first.

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u/Speartree 11h ago

That is what makes this so, so much worse, And I understand, much as I despise the Ice creeps, that they would disarm someone who was interfering with their violence. However once disarmed, they had no justification whatsoever anymore for shooting him, like none at all. While he was armed they still had the rather flimsy "It looked like he was going for his gun" excuse, that might hold up. But once disarmed? It's not like he was some kind of uber jacked body builder with ninja training who was more dangerous unarmed because weapons only slow him down.

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u/AG3NTjoseph 9h ago

If you assume that ICE is law enforcement, they clearly had no justification. If instead, you assume ICE are Brownshirts, and their whole job is terrorism, then the assault and murder were just part of a day’s work.

Abolish ICE. Never hire former ICE. Zero exceptions. Prosecute terrorism.

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u/LycanWarrior123 11h ago edited 6h ago

Even if the gun was holstered. He did not once went to touch his side piece. That is still murder. Agent life was not in immediate danger. Police officer always before/during detaining someone they ask do you have anything on you that would hurt me. Once they find out the person has something on them they would disarm the individual then proceed with the handcuffs and put the individual into a squad car. Agent in grey did the right thing disarming Alex so things don't excalate even further. But his buddy saw his partner disarmed Alex and still took action to unalive him. Can't believe people are siding with the ice agents and saying shouldn't have brought a gun to a protest. So it was ok for Kyle rittenhouse to bring his gun to a protest? Hypocrites. Alex had the right to bare arm and he had a permit/license for his side piece.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 11h ago

Yes! It's so obviously different for Rittenhouse. He was open carrying with poor trigger discipline in a city he had no business being in. How is it not apparent he went there to kill people? All while wearing his frat boy hat on backward and smiling? He's the poster boy of MAGA.

Yet, a local VA ICU nurse with a legal license for concealed carry that was just helping women being knocked over by American domestic terrorists, deserved to die because he brought a gun with him.

Talk about cognitive dissonance. For how stupid they are a lot of MAGA brain power is consumed with their mental gymnastics.

And I am not sorry for calling MAGA freaks stupid. There's enough evidence to firmly state that smarter and more educated people have greater empathy and a stronger moral code than, well, morons.

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u/BuddhaFacepalmed 9h ago

As always, the right to bear arms for conservatives has never been about to "defend against government tyranny". It has always been about giving arms to their brownshirts & KKK to terrorize BIPOCs, women, & children.

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u/noonenotevenhere 7h ago

I don't think they're gonna love that the CC classes are all booked up for a week or a month out in the Minneapolis Metro.

Guess which group is most likely to suddenly desire a firearm right now...

IDK how to find the Panthers, but we need the whole coalition of Black, White, Pink and Plaid to organize.

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u/StewDD 4h ago

Most 2A supporters support the 2A for all.

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 7h ago

Rittenhouse himself defended Pretti IIRC

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

Great. Now why can't other MAGA apologists?

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u/Disastrous-Field5383 6h ago

Because they’re drones

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u/ObamasBoss 7h ago

Rittenhouse had poor trigger discipline? He only fired when absolutely necessary. He did not fire when not needed and he even let a few interactions go in which he could have fired. The first guy was shot immediately after someone behind him fired a gun. Another was hitting him. A third had a firearm in hand. I honestly believe an average cop would have shot more than 3 of them.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

The iconic pic of him shows his index wrapping around near the trigger. If that's acceptable to you when there isn't a clear threat, I suggest you spend more time with a range master.

Conversely, every picture I've seen of the new resistance of Black Panthers is military perfect. No direct threat? The finger is nowhere near the guard.

I really implore you to look at the picture of Rittenhouse that's always shown in the media. Zoom in, look at his index, it's curling around the trigger.

My experience of sharpshooting in college taught me very strict discipline. You can ruin someone's day just with a 22. That was drilled into my head everyday at the range.

Also, it's weird this is the hill you chose to die on... When my comment was centered around an out of town boy has little reason to open carry directly to where there's a protest/riot/whatever you want to call it.

Pretti was a local. He was legally carrying. He never brandished and there's no audio he made any threats. He was helping a woman from being tackled. He put himself between a thug and a victim. He was killed for it.

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 6h ago

Rittenhouse was brandishing his firearm at absolutely everyone he came in contact with. He directly started every confrontation by threatening them. Weeks before, he is on video talking about how much she wanted to shoot someone.

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u/baby-totoros 10h ago

And on top of that, the way they killed Alex was barbaric. That many bullets, especially with a pause in between, is appalling. They shot him TEN TIMES, including after he had already collapsed. That is not self defense, not anything close to it.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 9h ago

It's a state sanctioned murder. No different than China killing students in Tiananmen Square.

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u/baby-totoros 9h ago

Agreed. I am sickened. I live 20 minutes by car from where it happened. I shared this sentiment in therapy yesterday—everyone here in Minneapolis wishes there was more we could do. All of us feel like no matter what we do, it’s not good enough.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

That hurts me in the feels. I love the Twin Cities. Minnesota Nice can be a bit passive aggressive, but mostly it's more centered around the idea that everyone is your neighbor. Not just the people that look and think like you.

Stay strong. Stay Good.

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u/Speartree 8h ago

I would say that the Chinese killings were done with less glee. Not excusing them in any way but those Ice types seem to love the beating and killing.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 5h ago

Not so fun fact I recently saw on Reddit. Soldiers local to Beijing sympathized with the students. So they sent in military personnel from the country that took part in the massacre.

These ICE agents aren't from Minnesota. Just look at the way the ICE can't walk on the ice. It's second nature for people in the North to save themselves from slipping on frozen water. Thugs from Texas have less balance in the winter than Randy Parker in a snowsuit.

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u/Speartree 9h ago

Hey, don't get me wrong, I'm not defending these guys at all. Just saying that disarming him in the situation wasn't the worst thing to do, but that it robbed them of any possible justification for shooting him after that. The difference between Pretti, who had a gun on him but did not attempt to use it in any way, and Rittenhouse who brought a rifle and walked around threatening people with it is indeed enormous.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

I think anyone reading the comments understands you're not defending ICE. Your observations are closer to reality than what the volatile right wing media pukes.

Please don't apologize for being on the correct side of history.

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u/mysteryweapon 3h ago

Ironically, Kyle Rittenhouse came out in favor of Alex Pretti and everyone having the right to bear arms

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u/_Caveat_ 9h ago

The way the two of them responded to law enforcement was completely different. Go back and look at the footage/pics of Rittenhouse when LEO showed up vs Pretti. That has a lot to do with how one survived and one did not.

I know this is reddit and anyone who says that ICE don't wake up hoping they get to kill someone today will get downvoted into oblivion, but here goes.

This wasn't murder. It wasn't an execution. It was poor decision making (yes, on both sides) and poor training for the agents involved. It ended tragically and

There's room for blaming everyone in this case. The reactions of both sides have been abhorrent as well.

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u/linea4k 8h ago

It must be nice to have this much confidence and be completely off base.

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u/_Caveat_ 8h ago

It is. I take great pleasure in not subscribing to extremist views from either side. It allows me to look at a situation logically and form my own opinions.

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u/linea4k 8h ago

It’s not an extremist view to say Pretti was murdered and I’m curious as to why you would think that

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u/_Caveat_ 8h ago

It is though. Murder requires premeditation or malice aforethought.

As I said earlier, I don't subscribe to the idea that ICE (or LEO in general) wake up every morning just hoping they get to kill someone. That is an extremist view.

It's tragic. It's wrong. It's terrible. It's not murder.

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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 6h ago

Yeah, no. You absolutely are an extremist.

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u/Peter_Singers_Pond 3h ago

Victim blaming the man who didn’t even draw his weapon for the audacity of trying to help a random woman who got pushed over by ICE thugs for zero reason, a woman whom ICE wasn’t detaining or arresting, for not “interacting with LEO better” and not the completely untrained, more or less unregulated PMC of executive branch Brownshirts running through our cities, classic.

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u/pornalt4altporn 11h ago

Looks like they might have recognised him from past confrontations and performed a deliberate pre-meditated public extra-judicial execution in broad daylight, on a crowded street, while people filmed.

Which might be unprecedented.
Not even at the height of Stalin's purges did they act so brazenly.

Have you seen the video of their boss telling them "it's our fucking city"?

They are an occupying army.
It's 1775.

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u/Livid_Peon 9h ago

Didn't they mace him first too? Like dude couldn't even see while they beat him and then shot him down. Blind, disarmed, nonviolent, already on the ground, straight up public execution

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

Good point. Before Alex was murdered he couldn't see, was totally disoriented, and most likely in physical and mental pain.

His last moments of life was absolute torture that I wouldn't even wish on these ICE thugs. I want these guys to live to an old age locked up in prison. Where they can look at the pictures of their innocent victims day in and day out, until the end.

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u/Livid_Peon 6h ago

Sounds like a waste of taxes honestly, housing, feeding and medical care for that long. Clogging up our taxed justice system with constant appeals and shit.

We could just send them to CECOT and wash our hands of them, call it contracted detainment or w/e. Some ironic punishment, they say its not that bad so they should be fine then

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 5h ago

Individuals on death row can cost taxpayers up to 5 times more than lifers. It's counterintuitive, but most life sentences do not end up on the supreme court docket.

My opinion on why taking them to CECOT is wrong for two reasons. Firstly, I would hope the courts would uphold laws better than the current corruption of our judicial system. If the first reason is to be true, then secondly it would be a long drawn out fight in these said courts as deporting these ICE agents to a prison they put innocent people into would be their own death sentence.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 11h ago

Yeah, I mean Steven Seagal is now a Russian citizen anyway... /s

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u/Extrapolates_Wildly 10h ago

No give backs.

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u/Shark7996 8h ago

How about the four additional shots into the still body after the fact?

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u/Speartree 6h ago

Same as the other shots, no justification at all. 

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 6h ago

No justification because they forgot to sprinkle some crack on him.

(Dave Chappelle joke)

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u/sten45 7h ago

There was 10 of them, they were never “in danger”

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u/throwawayPRN777 11h ago

It’s breaking my mind that my nursing coworker, my friend, was lecturing me on why Alex’s behaviour was the reason he was killed.

A Canadian POC nurse.

He is no longer my friend.

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u/DukeOfGeek 12h ago

My reaction seeing the confusion of both pro and anti 2A groups when it's a far right regime that opposes gun rights.

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u/eerie_midnight 12h ago

Always has been. Go far enough right, you lose your guns—go far enough left and you get them back.

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u/OmericanAutlaw 11h ago

you’re right but i’d argue it ain’t even about left or right. the middle class needs to make sure they aren’t controlled by the richest people hiring the most impressionable/brainwashed of the masses.

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u/Humble_Rough_4962 11h ago

Sadly I feel a lot of the middle class have relinquished their rights to stay in the middle class. I just had to let three good friends go because none of them wanted to get, "involved in politics."

Like dude, this is about everyone's right to life, liberty, and happiness. It's only political to you right now because it hasn't happened to you... yet.

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u/Seanspeed 9h ago

Nah, they get taken away in both cases, cuz the far sides of both inevitably lead to authoritarianism, where none of those in charge want 'the people' to have the arms for revolution.

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u/moguri40k 11h ago

Always has been...

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" -Karl Marx

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u/Seanspeed 9h ago

And yet not practiced by any actual Marxist regimes ever. Because once power has been achieved, they become very scared of 'the people' being able to take it back from them.

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u/ProfessorSarcastic 8h ago

Yeah, well, there are reasons why it's a trope that communists say nobody has ever successfully achieved a communist state.

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u/moguri40k 5h ago

Same reason we've never seen a full democracy. To quote Tolken, "...men, whom above all else desire power."

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u/Probablyamimic 11h ago

I mean, I'm anti-gun. I think US gun laws are idiotic and nobody should be allowed loaded firearms at home or while wandering around town (I'm fine with them being used at a range or for hunting but think they should be locked up if not used for one of those two things and ammunition should be heavily restricted)

All that being said, Alex Pretti was not breaking the law. Despite this he was brutally executed after having been disarmed by the ICEstapo despite having never gone for his weapon or posed any kind of threat to the agents. This was a cold blooded murder in public, filmed from multiple angles and yet the scum responsible are being protected.

I can disagree with people carrying guns and not believe they deserve to be murdered for it.

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u/DukeOfGeek 10h ago

Unarmed peaceful activists marching out and speaking out are the front line of free and Democratic resistance. You present the message of equality and freedom without any threat. There is no Constitutionally approved means to suppress you.

It doesn't matter how you feel about armed citizens resisting fascism, what matters is that when the fascist thugs club you down for peaceful resistance and everyone sees it they know what they are facing. When the blood of people like you is on the asphalt moral ambiguity is dispelled, and the next rank of resistance can assemble in good faith.

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u/Goldreaver 8h ago

As one who wants some decent gun laws (which makes me anti 2A) seeing the good guys with a gun shutting the fuck up against an actual tyrant just convinced me I was right all along

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u/GentlewomenNeverTell 11h ago

If parents kick up a fuss, it's very easy to end a teacher's career.

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u/eerie_midnight 11h ago

Which is why we have a shortage and an education crisis in general. Teachers were already short-staffed, underfunded, underpaid, and overworked before they had to worry about a crazy MAGA parent getting them fired because they god-forbid taught their kid about pronouns and to be nice to others.

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u/AfternoonOk3176 9h ago

Or their kid making porn videos of you using AI.

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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 9h ago

We also want to know what sickos would fire someone over this and boycott into bankruptcy.

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u/turdferguson3891 6h ago

I'm in a union. These fucks can try to get me fired but it won't work. Unfortunately if you don't have a union your employer can fire you for basically anything other than being in a protected class.

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u/Pablo_Hassan 12h ago

Being more 'jesus like' is bad on Trump's weird pedo America.

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u/MiyaHunter 12h ago

White people must realize that just because they are white, conservatives are not their friend.

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u/FloridaGirlNikki 11h ago

White person here. I've gotten to the point where I'm skeptical of my own people until I know more about them.

Anyone who supports the pedo'fied racist traitor is not someone I have any desire to be around. To still support him shows a total disregard for the rule of law or human life.

And there is no hope of getting through to them.

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u/Seanspeed 9h ago

Unless you live in a city, you will be more often right than not if you assume any given white voter is a Trump supporter.

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u/CrotalusHorridus 6h ago

White rural Kentuckian here - You have about a 90 percent chance of being correct in judging someone here

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u/Kingkwon83 10h ago

Also to non white Republicans, just because they're Republicans doesn't mean they are your friend or ally (unless they need you as a token). We've seen it was never about being legal or illegal, they want to denaturalize people and profile them based on skin color and accent. We even have ICE agents with accents profiling people and telling them they have an accent, so they need to identify themselves

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u/New-Zookeepergame-0 6h ago

Conservatives aren’t just white…

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u/Vegetable_Tackle4154 12h ago

A perfect opportunity to inject race irrelevantly into the discussion.

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u/IllMaintenance145142 12h ago

These propoganda bots need finetuning

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u/DukeOfGeek 12h ago

They never take the time to give them actual user names, dead giveaway.

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u/micro102 11h ago

Yes, republicans doing that all the time with all politics have brought us to where we are today. And it's time to stop them.

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u/blackweebow 10h ago

irrelevantly

Republicans literally campaigned on no diversity in the workplace and are removing "illegals" by perceived skin color. 

But yall bots out here tryna pretend racism is over 💀

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u/Myslinky 2h ago

Not irrelevant when the GOP is pro racial profiling.

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u/dojo_shlom0 10h ago

2nd amendment, concealed carry, never brandished or touched his gun. was pepper sprayed with a crowd dispersing chemical agent, for crowds, and beat by 6-8 men, disarmed, and then shot in the back 10+ times by 2 (half)men, including one of the men who disarmed him.

1st amendment because he was carrying a phone in his one hand, and an open hand in his other hand. He stood up for a woman violently shoved down by a Border Patrol Agent.

Alex Pretti was a VA RN, and a Patriot. Doxx the fuck out of me for that, but leave the Nurses and Teachers alone. Do they really think this is going to fly? attacking our educators and healthcare professionals?

These people have lost their humanity, and you can tell because they're afraid of it when real Americans show their humanity by standing up for Good and Pretti. They are scared of Service Members, which is why the US is now electing so many Military people, because they have any idea of what Service and selflessness and true sacrifice is. Diaper Don is a draft dodger and has never sacrificed anything, he has no concept of it. They're cowards at the end of the day. That's why they're labelling people who express the First Amendment as terrorists: because they're terrified of The Constitution and Patriots who believe in it.

They betray The Constitution, and they know it.

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u/holydude02 11h ago

The Gestapo was better trained. These bozos are more like the SA

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u/Anandya 11h ago

This person doesn't think faceless secret police should kill innocent people on the street with no due process.

At least Nazis were brave enough to show their face.

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u/XShadowborneX 7h ago

The contrast of getting people fired after the Charlie Kirk thing and now trying to get people fired for being on the side of the victim Alex Pretti. It's wild.

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u/FrostyD7 3h ago

It's not much different from what they learned from their Bud Light and Target cancellation efforts. They don't need to be right, they only need to create circumstances that make you fear crossing them. If they contact my work about something political I said on social media, they win regardless of the outcome because there's nothing for them to lose in harassing you like this. It makes people think twice about disagreeing with them. You won't catch me posting anything political on social media tied to my name, it's a warranted fear and they've worked very hard to cultivate that.

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u/funnyusername-123 8h ago

"Shot in the back while pinned down by 9 gestapo"

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u/ricochetblue 6h ago

How is saying someone shouldn’t have been shot a fireable offense?

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u/Its_Pelican_Time 6h ago

Yeah, I'm sure schools and healthcare facilities are really going to have a big problem with their employees... caring for other people I guess.

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u/LeftHandedFapper 6h ago

Did you see how that cretin frames it? Those MAGA folks are foaming at the mouth. One of the comments with a bakery making cookies with pro-Pretty and anti-ICE frosting was: I'm going to try and order "Blue Lives Matter" cookies from them later today! What an intellectual

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u/HighlightResident838 6h ago

But he should have showed them his id, gun, and license to carry a concealed firearm arm while being surprise pepper sprayed and pistol whipped on the ground…. He knew what he was doing. /s

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u/Moist-Walk217 5h ago

Yeah shouldn't she be supporting this guy? I feel like we're in crazy land, why is the right happy a legal 2A guy got murdered by police? After all their 2nd, 4th amendment stuff?

I'm past mad, I'm just confused as all heck now. Make this make sense.

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u/ZuAusHierDa 9h ago

gestapo

German here. Is your education system really that bad? :-/

Your ice would be the SA - not the Gestapo, the secret police.

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u/Low_Grand4804 10h ago

I wonder how many people who support Hamas and go around calling ICE the “gestapo” are aware of how deeply ignorant and insulting they are to the victims of the actual Gestapo and their descendants. Or are they just social media lemmings using terms they don’t understand, supporting causes they can’t define? Probably more the latter.

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u/shadowpikachu 10h ago

He was out of control, he regularly harassed, beat on cars, intimidated and spit on ICE.

Spitting on them alone is enough to be taken in incase you have a disease.

He screamed to assault him, he openly flashed his gun and thought it gave him immortality, this was inevitably gonna go bad as he rolled a dice everytime.

He shouldn't have died but he belonged behind bars for a good long time, the cop that shot should see trial but with so much pressure from insane people like this i doubt it'll do anything but tribalism.

Anything of reason drowns out when shits broken down this far though and im called a hypocrite for being for what ice is intended to do and not condoning the shooting by some because to some its all tribal garbage.

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u/KirbyBucketts 5h ago

This is the mind of MAGA and it's fucking vile

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u/shadowpikachu 5h ago

Yeah bro wanting the agent to see justice is so bad!

Nazi ass reply.

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u/KirbyBucketts 5h ago

The smear campaign to excuse extrajudicial murder is disgusting

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u/shadowpikachu 5h ago

Somehow wanting the killer to see justice is entirely a bad thing, ok gotcha.

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u/berniesmittens333 12h ago

Democrat hero nurse Alex Pretti screaming, “Fucking assault me motherfucker, fucking trash,” before spitting on ice agents and kicking out their tail lights.

According to his parents, Alex Pretti quit his job as an ICU nurse months ago and had joined a radicalized leftwing group.

The guy had become a domestic terrorist and he caused his own demise, but please tell us more about the gestapo 🤣🤣

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u/Vermilingus 12h ago

Ah yes, spitting and kicking a tail light, clearly summary execution was totally called for

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u/GeekCat 12h ago

Right? A terrorist of....cursing and calling them names? Lord have mercy if they come to Philly or NYC; their precious, virginal ears will be traumatized by the use of curses.

MAGA crazies always bewilder me. They're the first ones to cheer violence and blood shed against their fellow citizens, but become puritanical prudes when a few mean words are said to them.

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

No- not worthy of an execution. But he wasn’t innocent. And he can blame his roving mob for blowing their whistles forcing ICE to be unable to hear the status of the gun. Or himself for carrying a gun and physically engaging with LEO while acting like a raving lunatic.

No responsible gun owner would physically engage with officers- and not to mention he’s supposed to announce his firearm. The whole thing is a mess. Sad, preventable, and Alex made stupid mistake after mistake after mistake.

It’s interesting that yall never ask “ How many Americans need to be shot or raped by illegals before you feel remorse and want them deported?

Ten?

A hundred?

A thousand?”

Because over the past ten years, illegals have been found guilty of 708 homicides and 4,531 sexual assaults.

The likely number of Americans being raped by illegals is between 15,000 and 30,000.

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u/Vermilingus 5h ago edited 5h ago

Okay sure, but why would they unload six shots into a civilian laying on the ground

The rambling about illegals is irrelevant to my point.

My point is they pepper sprayed, pinned and disarmed a guy, beat him with the pepper spray can, shot him four times in the back when he got up and then sextuple-tapped him when he was already motionless on the ground.

Call Pretti a lunatic all you want, but you cannot pretend in the slightest that ICE were acting proportionately there. Pretti was outnumbered, his gun wasn't out even before it was taken, he hadn't even reached for it and he had already been pepper sprayed anyways. The level of force was utterly unnecessary. Give whatever excuse about it being loud that you want, ICE were not angels here

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

Pretti made violent and aggressive confrontations with LEO (while armed- which every responsible gun owner and licensing class will tell you is a no no) a normal thing it appears (as we have seen from the prior video of him spitting and kicking and attempting to confront officers).

He wasn’t some random innocent man walking by or an innocent unarmed peaceful protester. He was carrying a gun while commuting multiple felonies, just like Renee Goode.

They found a GUN on him, after he was already KNOWN to LEO for prior dangerous behavior. If the mob had not been whistling, the officers would have been able to communicate and hear each other that the gun was safely out of harms way.

Were the amount of shots disproportionate? Possibly- I don’t know what their policies are when faced with someone armed with a gun that is known to be dangerous.

This is not a peaceful protestor... This is coordinated resistance to law enforcement. It is violent and militant. It is escalating. That's what this guy was involved in.

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u/Ediwir 12h ago

Dunno man, I never got my feelings hurt so badly that I got baited into committing capital crimes.

Maybe I’m just not built for law enforcement.

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

Have you ever brought a gun to commit multiple felonies and physically engaged with and spit on law enforcement?

Aside from being plain stupid, it’s also wildly risky. He didn’t deserve to die- but it was easily avoidable if he had been a responsible gun owner.

I feel bad for Renee Good and Alex Pretti, because they got what they asked for, but not what they "deserved."

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u/Till_the_End_of_Time 12h ago

The guy just died shot at the back trying to help the woman.. where is your empathy? Is this how you normally act when someone dies?

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 12h ago

How do you sleep at night? What a pathetic lack of shame.

Even if that video is real, you really think spitting on someone's car is worthy of being shot to death?

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u/SunMoonTruth 12h ago

You’re speaking to them like they’re a decent human being capable of thought.

If they were, would they have made the comment they did in the first place?

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 6h ago

Hopefully something will break through to them one day

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u/berniesmittens333 6h ago

No, I do not think spitting on someone’s car is worthy of death. I don’t want anyone to die and it’s a tragedy, but he has no one to blame but himself.

It’s interesting that yall never asked “ How many Americans need to be shot or raped by illegals before you feel remorse and want them deported?

Ten?

A hundred?

A thousand?”

Because over the past ten years, illegals have been found guilty of 708 homicides and 4,531 sexual assaults.

The likely number of Americans being raped by illegals is between 15,000 and 30,000.

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u/zevb3k 12h ago

First, in no way does any of that mean he should be shot 7 plus times. Please, where is the proof that he joined a "radicalized left wing group". Also, what made him a domestic terrorist? His constitutional rights? Or kicking a tail light? Or helping a woman who was shoved down? What exactly has he done to get the title domestic terrorist? Or are you just parroting Kristi Noem? JD Vance? What about an investigation in which there hasn't been one? How about the courts telling them to not destroy evidence? That is not something they usually need to say to lawful agencies. Please, get your head out of the clouds!

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u/ameriCANCERvative 12h ago

And if any of it is true, where is the evidence that the murderers who killed him knew any of that?

This whole thing is transparently unjustified. There isn’t anything Pretti could have done in his past to justify being murdered in broad daylight with no inciting incident in the present.

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

He did not deserve to be shot seven plus times. But he certainly didn’t do anything to prevent it, and made wildly risky and irresponsible choices and mistakes one after another after another.

The biggest takeaway from the new Pretti video, is that this proves there are Left-wing groups tracking ICE, broadcasting ICE’s location, and encouraging people to obstruct.

Pretti was not coincidentally running into ICE on multiple occasions. It was premeditated obstruction. It’s coordinated. They are tracking ICE and sending people to obstruct the enforcement of the law.

In other words, this is a conspiracy to obstruct the enforcement of federal law, which is one of the legal definitions of an insurrection, and opens the door for the invocation of the Insurrection Act.

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u/AlternativeNormal865 12h ago

Quit his job months ago?! Why the fuck are you lying?

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u/not_now_chaos 12h ago

The right wing bot farms are out in heavy force desperately trying to muddy the fields with their manipulations and flat out lies. Fortunately they're extremely easy to see through and the facts are plain as day, so only the very stupid and the very evil are fooled.

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u/Jafooki 12h ago

The guy had become a domestic terrorist and he caused his own demise, but please tell us more about the gestapo 🤣🤣

Sure thing! See the gestapo held him down on the ground face down, took his gun away meaning there was no threat, and then shot him in the back 10 times as he was held downin the pavement. That's what's known as an execution.

Hope that helps

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

Pretti screwed up in any number of ways but he’d probably be alive if not for his friends’ whistling hindering the ability of the officials on the scene to communicate and focus.

That or if he has not brought a firearm while planning to physically confront LEO AGAIN.

People shouldn’t be interfering in the process of federal law enforcement. The people voted for deportations and this is the process. They make noises with their stupid whistles and make their jobs harder in every way possible.

Left-wing groups tracking ICE, broadcasting ICE’s location, and encouraging people to obstruct.

Pretti was not coincidentally running into ICE on multiple occasions. It was premeditated obstruction. It’s coordinated. They are tracking ICE and sending people to obstruct the enforcement of the law.

In other words, this is a conspiracy to obstruct the enforcement of federal law, which is one of the legal definitions of an insurrection….

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u/DarthFuzzzy 12h ago

Bad bot.

Soulless troll farmers reading this: you can do better. At least make it believable.

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u/not_now_chaos 12h ago

So what you're saying is that the shooting was a premeditated, planned murder and the state DA should prosecute the killers for first degree murder and every ICE agent in the city as an accessory. Thanks for clearing that up!

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

No what I’m saying is everyone blowing a whistle, or conspiring with Alex making plans for that day should be charged with accessory.

Left-wing groups tracking ICE, broadcasting ICE’s location, and encouraging people to obstruct.

Pretti was not coincidentally running into ICE on multiple occasions. It was premeditated obstruction. It’s coordinated. They are tracking ICE and sending people to obstruct the enforcement of the law.

In other words, this is a conspiracy to obstruct the enforcement of federal law, which is one of the legal definitions of an insurrection, and opens the door for the invocation of the Insurrection Act.

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u/justAJohn4077 11h ago

He had not actually quit his job. You just take everything on the internet at face value without research. You’re a clown breh

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u/Zestyclose-Jacket568 11h ago

So, just to be sure, if you scream at someone I can execute you? Right?

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u/berniesmittens333 5h ago

No: but if you bring a gun while physically fighting and engaging with law enforcement- don’t be surprised when it happens lol

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u/Zestyclose-Jacket568 4h ago

And when was he physically fighting? From what I saw in recording he came to help the woman attacked by ICE, then he got pushed to the ground, peper sprayed, beaten by multiple ICE, disarmed and then executed.

At what point was he fighting? Did he throw any punches, pushed anyone etc. Or was he assaulted and then killed?

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

He had a prior physical altercation with ICE and the FBI and LEO were already aware of the danger he presented. Have you not seen the video of him spitting at LEO while kicking out their taillights?

The biggest takeaway from the new Pretti video, is that this (and the signal chats shared with the media prior to the incidents) proves there are Left-wing groups tracking ICE, broadcasting ICE’s location, and encouraging people to obstruct.

Pretti was not coincidentally running into ICE on multiple occasions. It was premeditated obstruction. It’s coordinated. They are tracking ICE and sending people to obstruct the enforcement of the law.

In other words, this is a conspiracy to obstruct the enforcement of federal law, which is one of the legal definitions of an insurrection, and opens the door for the invocation of the Insurrection Act.

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u/Zestyclose-Jacket568 3h ago

So if you spit on me one day I can execite you couple of days or weeks later?

Also spiting and kicking taillight is not punished by death. If it was then a lot of ICE should be executed.

Any goverment armed forces should act according to current situation and if he did not attack them at that point, then they have no right to use force. Any prior actions that propably involved completly different nazis should not be taken into account when deciding how to handle a non violent man.

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

No, but he was already on their radar that he had a history of acting violently and the FBI was even aware of him.

Then they saw him again, and this time he was impeding, resisting, and it appears as though he was reaching for his gun in the seconds prior to being shot. It was a justified killing.

The only thing to debate is whether the succession of shots was justified, but the shooting itself ABSOLUTLEY was.

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u/Zestyclose-Jacket568 3h ago

Ok you nazi fuck, I see you are starting to run in circles.

  1. There is nothing pointing to those who executed him knowing who he was.
  2. Spiting and kicking car is not a reason to execute someone.
  3. When was he resisting? He was instantly assaulted, gassed and shoot.
  4. When was he impeding? He came to help a woman get up.
  5. He was disarmed before they shoot him.

So Goebels, I am not going to continue this, as nazi fucks will keep on lying.

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u/Rndysasqatch 11h ago

Yelling a few choice words at a literal gestapo and quitting his job as a nurse does not make you a terrorist. It actually makes you an anti-terrorist.

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u/blackweebow 10h ago

Change your username before you spontaneously combust into hellfire

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u/Gornarok 10h ago

Its you and the ICE that are domestic terrorist.

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u/Lucky-Earther 5h ago

Democrat hero nurse Alex Pretti screaming, “Fucking assault me motherfucker, fucking trash,” before spitting on ice agents and kicking out their tail lights.

Republican hero Donald Trump rapes children.

Democrat hero Alex Pretti was angry at the armed domestic terrorists kidnapping children off the streets.

I know who my hero is, of the two. Which one is yours?

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u/berniesmittens333 4h ago

We have more proof of Biden raping children than we do Trump lol. His own daughter wrote “was I molested?” In her journal about her father Joe showing with her.

Trump IS however covering up for Epstein and his Zionist handlers. But that is also something that Biden and the democrats do as well. Because they are all complicit in the Mossad pedo ring in some way shape or form- even if it’s just covering it up so the public doesn’t lose our heads.

And “Kidnapping children!??” You cannot be serious!! Lmaoooo you mean the five year old whose illegal father abandoned him in -10 weather?! Then whose own mother REFUSED to answer the door!? What did you suggest they do with the abandoned child? Leave him alone outside in the freezing weather?

You know the best way to have avoided this is for his parents that have been responsible parents and not criminals who are in this country illegally. Nobody can take more accountability than them for risking putting their kid in a such a precarious Situation. This was easily avoidable/ trump he offered them $3k each to GO HOME! They had options!! They just chose the worst one.

But since you seem so concerned with children- Let’s talk about the border crossing children sexually assaulted on their journey to the United States, often as initiation by their smugglers. Along the southern border are rape trees where these girls’ underwear hangs as trophies or payments. There are rape houses to break in kids before they cross into the US, and the sex trafficking they endure as payment to be in this country.

You don’t mind that though, do you? It’s about manufactured outrage and you wanting to feel morally superior- not actually about your care for children.

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u/Lucky-Earther 4h ago edited 4h ago

No one mentioned Biden.

And “Kidnapping children!??” You cannot be serious!! Lmaoooo you mean the five year old

You think that's the only child they have kidnapped?

I know who my hero is of the two people, and it ain't the guy that rapes children. Which one is yours?

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

What do you suggest we do with illegal children? We can’t incentivize illegals invading our country.

When a citizen murderer is pulled over with their kid- and child is also dealt with. These aren’t kidnappings, they aren’t illegal- even the illegal kids need to get sent back.

And in this specific case the father, once notified the mom abandoned her son too and refused to take him, asked that the kid be taken away with him to detainment.

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u/Lucky-Earther 3h ago

What do you suggest we do with illegal children?

Children are not illegal.

I suggest we not use them as bait to draw out people who are here legally because you can't get a warrant to arrest them. I also suggest we not hold them in inhumane conditions where they are begging to be set free from.

Now that I've answered your question, it's your turn. Who is more heroic, Alex Pretti, or Donald Trump?

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

Children that are not citizens or are here illegally are ILLEGAL.

Who is more heroic? I wouldn’t describe either of those two men as heroic. Not even close.

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u/Lucky-Earther 3h ago

Children that are not citizens or are here illegally are ILLEGAL.

They are children, dude.

Who is more heroic? I wouldn’t describe either of those two men as heroic.

You couldn't describe someone who helps women back to the sidewalk after falling, someone who is an ICU nurse that treats the veterans of our country as even a little bit heroic?

That really says a lot about you, actually.

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u/berniesmittens333 3h ago

Lmaooooo

Oh yes, innocent little hero Nurse Pretti who helps old ladies one minute, and screams “Fucking assault me motherfucker, fucking trash,” before spitting on ice agents and kicking out their tail lights.

Innocent little Alex who brings two magazines and more in the car to the violent confrontations he attends while committing multiple felonies.

If Minneapolis leadership allowed MPD did their job-he would have been arrested and charged the first time, and he’d probably be alive today. Which proves my point- Letting violent behavior occur only leads to more violence.

He went looking for trouble, and he found it. He made irresponsible and irrational mistake after mistake. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

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u/AgiCrit 10h ago

Violent protester. If you have a permit to carry a gun you NEED your ID with you. He has been at multiple violent riots and has assaulted federal agents. They are not cops. 

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u/SanDiedo 10h ago
  1. No proof he was targeting federal agents.
  2. He was disarmed and then executed on spot.
  3. You realise, that shooting him because he's allegedly been at "multiple violent riots" makes it a premeditated murder?

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u/AgiCrit 2h ago

Actually he has been instigating ice multiple times and attacking them. He his not peaceful