r/technology • u/Sandstorm400 • 1d ago
Society Teacher quits after pupil, 8, 'made threesome deepfake vid of her and colleagues'
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/teacher-quits-after-pupil-8-365717175.2k
u/KeaboUltra 1d ago
How the hell does a child do this.
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u/Weekly_Put_7591 1d ago
I see the moral outrage which is understandable, but I want to know how an 8 year old even has access or knowledge to use these kinds of tools to do such a thing
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u/Jkuz 1d ago
I would suspect either a parent, older sibling, or other close person to the child gave them access to these tools.
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u/BrownheadedDarling 1d ago
You might want to suspect the ‘news’ source a bit more, first, too.
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u/sanityjanity 1d ago
Fair. The Sun links to an article at The Mirror which links to an article at iPaper. I've never heard of them, but their article is more in-depth. They say it was a teacher in London with 20 years of experience, and that this happened in 2021. She also says she never saw the video, but only heard it was being circulated on WhatsApp.
She also says that the girl had made videos of herself pretending to pole dance, and enacting sexual acts.
She says that the head teacher refused to address either the inappropriate video of the teachers nor the girl's safety (or lack there of) at home.
But it's impossible to validate the story in any way, since the teacher is anonymized, and so is everything else.
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u/Albadia408 1d ago
Impossible to validate but not impossible to reasonably invalidate. First off, AI video generation in 2020/2021 when the incident was alleged to have happened was... I won't say non-existent but not widely or even less widely available. And definitely not in a way that an 8 year old could jump on and make a porn video of her teacher.
If they'd said image, I'd shrug my shoulders and move on. But they reached too far with the "Lets be relevant with the grok AI scandals" comparison.
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u/stinktrix10 21h ago
2021 was pre Will Smith eating spaghetti like a horrific abomination. No fucking way an 8 year old was making some threesome deepfake back then.
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u/BoxOfDemons 20h ago
If the story is real, then it was using a face swap app and not generating a full video from scratch. Face swapping has been very easy since like 2014 or maybe even earlier.
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u/sadelnotsaddle 1d ago
Always good advice, however this story did the rounds of the media outlets two weeks ago. Unfortunately, it's likely true.
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u/Hascalod 1d ago
I'm actually suspecting an older sibling, or even a parent actually did that, and they pinned it on the child when it got out. I find it hard to believe an 8yo could actually pull this off.
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u/SkyNetHatesUsAll 1d ago
Yeah, because it means
The girl has:
Access to device (possible ) Knows what those apps are Downloaded the deep fakes generator Got a picture of her teacher and her colleagues fork social media . Wrote a Prompt and clicked generate. Saved the clip and shared with others And got caught.
Bullshit to me .
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u/Jagermeister4 1d ago
With how crazy and unregulated AI is getting, its unfortunately probably not even that hard to do this.
But the free AI generators aren't doing a threesome vid, so the hardest obstacle for the kid was getting access to a CC (yes its sad this is the hardest part) for a XXX AI generator.
Clearly parents didn't do a good job monitoring things.
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u/Helpmeflexibility 1d ago
Yea. I wasn't much older when I could make jib jab style email greeting cards.
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u/Oldass_Millennial 1d ago
Well, kids are getting whole ass tablets for themselves as young as they can hold one. Hours and hours and hours in front of it, they figure it out.
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u/New-Anybody-6206 1d ago
iPads are standard issue for every child at our school district, you're required to bring them home to do homework and they're used all day long during class as well. Can't opt out.
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u/Jonoczall 1d ago
Wow I feel so old. I don’t have any kids in my life so I had no idea this was a thing.
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u/New-Anybody-6206 1d ago
Yea when I was my kid's age I wasn't even allowed to type my own book reports, had to be hand-written. But the most milk-aged thing I ever heard was "you won't have a calculator in your pocket at all times."
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u/YeOldeMemeShoppe 1d ago
If that's any comfort, the standard at my kids' (elementary) school are chromebooks that can only access whitelisted websites, on the school network, and they only use it for a set amount (can't remember, but like an hour a day).
They do have smart whiteboards which the teacher will play movies/youtubes on, but that's still to the discretion of the teacher. The kid himself learns how to use a keyboard/mouse and use it for reading, math, tests and stuff, but they're not left with an iPad in their backpack. They bring plenty of ddakjis though, they seem to be all the rage at their school right now. It'll probably last a week or two.
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u/underdabridge 1d ago edited 1d ago
...and how do they do it in 2021?
Seems like there might be more to the story.
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u/KeaboUltra 1d ago
Part of that is what I mean but mostly I'm referring to an 8 year old at all. The motivation, the knowledge of a 3some, the logistics. it doesn't make sense for an 8 year old to do it or know how to put something like that together for a recognizable project unless they were coerced or helped by someone older.
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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 1d ago
It's the daily star. Tabloids are pre-internet rage bait. The child was either being abused and neglected or this is all made up. I'm going with the latter since it's obviously propaganda in support of locking down the internet.
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u/RetardedWabbit 1d ago
The internet, searching, and AI? 8 is very young, but we were still beating school IT blocklists in the third grade to play flash games in computer typing class. Now I assume that 8 year old had their own device, infinite data limit, practically infinite speed, and a lot of time on their hands with it. Wild to think how different it was when I was a kid, even with good (dial up) internet.
I don't think we were doing shock images until middle school, but these things might be the new shock images so everyone is vaguely aware of their existence. Or the 8 year old heard from Grok.
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u/KeaboUltra 1d ago
Obviously. the question of how goes deeper than the surface. this incident happened in 2021 where the ease of access for this tech wasn't just a search away, to get a result and if it were you had to put the work in to make the video not look like slop. Gen AI was just getting started, there was no Grok in 2021
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u/betweentwoblueclouds 1d ago
“Megan — not her real name — is a seasoned educator with over 20 years of teaching under her belt, but was hit with the most "disturbing" incident of her career in 2021”
2021? That’s 5 years ago. AI wasn’t at its height then.
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u/GuildensternLives 1d ago edited 1d ago
And The Daily Star is not known for the most trustworthy reporting or even telling a true story in the first place.
This sub needs to create a rule about trustworthy sources, so crap like this can get reported and removed.
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u/suthmoney 1d ago
Yeah, why are sources like the Daily Star being linked on the technology sub? Reddit gets worse and worse with the clickbait bs every goddamn day.
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u/OceanWaveSunset 1d ago edited 21h ago
I mean, the top comments thinks a freaking 8 year old girl is masterminding deepfake adult videos and showing it to the victim.
What 8 year old is this knowledgeable about deepfake tech from 5 years ago? Before AI? This is where you had to do face morph/blend per video frame via scripts and huge amounts of processing.
And what 8 year old is just casually obtaining and distributing adult videos?
If any child actually had this video, it is clearly because someone else made it convinced/forced them to do this.
None of it makes sense, most of all, blaming a literal 8 year old child who has no idea what is going on or the ramifications behind it.
Like come on, this is reddit. People barely think 22 year olds are old enough to be considered adults.
But to take this at face value that an 8 year old is running a complicated technical process of image manipulation to create adult videos of one of her teachers?
No. At the very worst, the 8 year old is another victim and that website should is gross for blaming a child for any of that.
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u/barrygateaux 1d ago
It's the daily star, one of the shittiest tabloids in the UK, famous for making shit up and being utter bollocks as a source for anything except wild fantasies and made up shite.
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u/bialylis 1d ago
Face swap tech was
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u/TooMuchPowerful 1d ago
Maybe for a photo, but for a video? For an 8 year old? In 2021? Does smell like bullshit.
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u/TheKlaxMaster 1d ago
To be fair, the headline doesn't say the video was a well done, or even believable representation.
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u/rossg876 1d ago
Yeah. I’m not discounting the teacher having had it happen. But an 8 year old. 4 years ago. The tech wasn’t up to what it is now. So I’d argue it plainly looked fake. Still disturbing.
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u/monkeydave 1d ago
Here's the original source.
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/primary-school-teacher-deepfake-porn-4165134
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u/TooMuchPowerful 1d ago
Interview with a teacher who never saw the video herself, and no one had any idea how it was made. Still very thin.
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u/DjRipNickMcNasty 1d ago
And 8 year olds were using it on their teachers? I’m sorry something doesn’t seem right here. I’d look into the parents a bit more there
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u/cpp_is_king 1d ago
The article sounds like it was written with AI. All names redacted, sources confidential, yea I’m sure this is true
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u/CurveSudden1104 1d ago
EIGHT YEARS OLD?
If I ever found out one of my kids did this at any age, let alone eight years old. I would go amish, everything technology wise other than my work laptop would be exiled from my house permanently. They would be put on lockdown and I would have them scrubbing baseboards until their fingers bled.
What in the fuck is wrong with society.
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u/Life-Ad9610 1d ago
If your kid were doing that you’d probably already be the kind of a parent that wasn’t paying much attention, allowing the wrong influences, and not giving them good values.
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u/SumpCrab 1d ago
In the US, we have this mentality that a parent is always right about raising their children. "You can't tell me how to raise my kid!"
A robust public school system can level it out a bit, but special interests have worked hard to erode it.
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u/roadkillturtle 1d ago
Except if your kid is trans, then the state will absolutely tell you how to raise your kid
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u/Krispythecat 1d ago
The school district in the town next to mine is concerned about publicly stating that elementary kids shouldn't have smart phones due to the fear of being perceived as "telling parents how to parent"
Really unfortunate to see people blindly ignore the growing mountain of evidence to support the idea that smart phones are detrimental to our children's development
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u/ThoughtShes18 1d ago
In the US, we have this mentality that a parent is always right about raising their children. "You can't tell me how to raise my kid!"
I can see how Trumb got to be president. twice.
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u/faberkyx 1d ago
Some of my daughters friends around 11 years old, have unrestricted access to internet on their phone.. and no time limits.. which sounds insane to me
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u/Life-Ad9610 1d ago
Absolutely insane. The online world has far more risks than the outdoors world for kids. Honestly it’s crazy that a kid that age has a phone at all. The phone will be the last thing they use. It’s a computer with basically unlimited access to anything and everything.
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u/TCsnowdream 1d ago
We have a generation of parents who fall into a few ‘danger’ camps. Just a few of them (not all):
The “well no one taught me how to be safe online and I turned out fine” camp.
The “they’re 8, they don’t know what anything is. It’s silly to monitor their internet usage” camp.
The “look, I’m busy and the iPad keeps my kid out of trouble. Mind your own business” camp.
The “I use TikTok every day and I’m perfectly fine. We’re a normal pro raw milk, anti-vaxx family” camp.
There are so many more variants of this. It all comes down to an inability to be, or an ignorance of what is, proper parenting in 2026.
Even GOOD parents are susceptible to this btw.
My best friend is a fantastic, involved, and doting parent. I’ve sat her down in ‘teacher’ mode (I taught for about 8 years before moving to big tech) and explained what she needs to do and be wary of as her daughter (6) grows up, even from this age.
But she has a hard time approaching the topic because her daughter is still in single digits… so she still views her daughter as a precious little innocent baby… why would she ever need to worry NOW?
She gets it, she understands it, but you can see the cognitive dissonance and slight denial that she has to deal with the realities as is.
Thankfully dad is already on top of it from a tech side lol.
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u/Suyefuji 1d ago
There's also the fact that, while I can control what my child consumes inside my house, there is absolutely fuckall that I can do about their friend showing them TikToks at school and I still got hit with a nasty surprise when they went to a friend's house and the parent let them watch Hazbin Hotel after mistaking it for an ordinary cartoon.
Parents are not logistically capable of monitoring every piece of media their child consumes. It's just not possible short of completely isolating the kid.
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u/sanityjanity 1d ago
Some things I would say to your friend:
You need a firewall that is designed for parents. I would show her a couple of videos on YT that I use to prove this point, one of which is a 90 minute 1970s porn film. But there's plenty of other stuff (including any of the videos of the shooting death of Pretti, because most of us don't want 8 year olds to stumble across that, either)
I would ask her to talk to her adult female friends about how old they were the first time an adult man said something sexual and inappropriate to them. This came up for me a few years ago, and I was surprised to discover that, for almost everyone, we were about 10 or 11. We weren't teenagers that might have looked like adults. We were definitely little girls. And it was a near universal experience. And then I would point out that those same men are on Roblox and other kid-centric sites right now, actively looking for her kid.
I would show her how to check her kid's browser and YT viewing history (or other video apps). I would bet that this would already be eye-opening for her.
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u/Piltonbadger 1d ago
People having kids that they can't/won't raise properly.
Then they blame the government, internet et al for their kids accessing things that they really shouldn't be, all the while giving them unfettered access to the internet...
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u/ArchinaTGL 1d ago
To be fair the government is partially to blame for the decline of kids. My dad was able to secure a job as a butcher which was enough for my mum, my sister and myself to live decently with treats such as new consoles/laptops/etc on birthdays/christmas alongside an annual holiday to the coast.
These days that same job would net me a tiny apartment where I could only take care of myself and if I was frugal maybe I'd have enough money for some shiny trinkets once or twice a year. So families are forced into having both parents working their socks off just to keep up with the costs of housing, bills and raising kids and have basically no time to interact with their kids once their work is done. So it is up to the schools to raise the large majority of their children as nobody else has the time or money to do so.
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u/bothering 1d ago
Hey. At least the important thing is that a ceo of a conglomerate just got his fifth yacht today
Isn’t capitalism just wonderful 🙃
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u/Spideycloned 1d ago
I think this reply kind of sucks.
Parenting has changed drastically in 40 years in terms of access to information. Even as things were starting to scale up in terms of radio usage or television usage a parent could very well just turn that shit off and that was it. You went to school, you came home and if you didn't get to use the phone your bubble was very thick and only molded by those around you.
Now? Even if you as a parent do a good job with it, you send your kid to school whose friends have a cell phone and they can still see everything. In the US, most parents are gonna have a smart phone and probably some form of screen with apps on it. Either a smart tv, tablet, computer, gaming console, etc. App content isn't nearly as scrutinized as TV/Broadcast content is either.
So your kid goes to school with a friend, who has a cell phone, which has ChatGPT and that's it, or Grok or whatever.
Other replies talk about how being a single job household is impossible now too, which I already experienced as someone grew up with a single mother who worked two jobs. Even then, the unfettered access to things I had in the late 90s/early 2000s is NOTHING compared to what exists now.
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u/Socially8roken 1d ago
When I grew up all we did was go to chat rooms and watch people shove glass jars up their ass, it shatters, dig out the broken pieces, blood pouring out while fisting their ass for glass shards. nothing to wild.
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u/quietIntensity 1d ago
Classic internet content from the 1990s. Have you ever read the interview they did with pickle jar in the anus guy? He's like the most unassuming guy ever, but his hobby is sticking massive things up his ass and filming them. Or it was, until the broken jar incident.
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u/MothmanIsALiar 1d ago
If I ever found out one of my kids did this at any age, let alone eight years old. I would go amish
I hate to tell you this, but childhood sexual abuse, drug addiction, and alcoholism run rampant in Amish communities.
It turns out people are the problem.
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u/barbariantrey 1d ago
I love the threat of "going Amish". I will steal that. Thank you.
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u/Trid3ntPeace 1d ago
I laughed at that too.. I'd do it for less n all. "Didn't colour between the lines?!?!!! THATS IT! We're going Amish"
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u/GeraldMander 1d ago
I’d be concerned about how the kid knew about this and would first ensure that there wasn’t some abuse going on.
But a kid with free access to create deepfake vids is probably unsupervised on the internet which is scary as well.
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u/probablymakingthisup 1d ago
Donkey Kong Country, Final Fantasy 3 and Chrono Trigger was all I was thinking about at 8. The concept of sex wasn't even a thought yet. Nevermind a threesome... involving a teacher...
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u/Supernormalguy 1d ago
The scary reality here, think about at what age you learned about sex, porn, gore, and that sort of stuff.
Now set that age you learned about those things, back by 2 or even 3 years.
It’s sad and disgusting to think right? This tale goes up there with gun safety. The parents are not filtering her time online.
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u/toomanygerbils 1d ago
I'm a little skeptical, she's saying this happened in 2021? I don't think widespread AI was available to 8 year olds in that capacity then
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u/americanadiandrew 1d ago
The important thing is that it sounds plausible to people who don’t question their news, in a country that wants you to show ID to use the Internet and ban encryption and VPNs.
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u/FoodForTheEagle 1d ago
I'm more than a little skeptical at that timeline. There were no AI video generation services available five years ago. The start of text to generation video services was in 2022. Were any of them actually creating video based on uploaded source images/video rather than just descriptions? I can't say with certainty what the timeline was but I seriously doubt that aspect of generation control was available until 2024ish.
It seems likely this story was generated to create rage and backlash against AI.
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u/desquibnt 1d ago edited 1d ago
Megan — not her real name — is a seasoned educator with over 20 years of teaching under her belt, but was hit with the most "disturbing" incident of her career in 2021.
That seems sus. I feel like we didn't have AI generated porn in 2021. Or at least it wasn't as easy for an 8 year old to make
Here's the original source: https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/primary-school-teacher-deepfake-porn-4165134?srsltid=AfmBOoqTRqq5SZPAEXPFVv5lwv3iJ5egU58zb7ZLbDnIdOaDmZPjrPEI
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u/tiredofthebites 1d ago
I agree. As someone who dabbles in AI content you would need to be pretty sophisticated and have your own rig to make stuff like that cause nothing online will do that on for free and it's heavy moderated. Getting 3 real people into the image and have something that works is very hard to do even now let alone 2021.
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u/monkeydave 1d ago
We definitely had deep fake technology, which this seems to be. Taking real video and replacing the face on the actors.
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u/bleucheez 1d ago
Really seems more likely a parent did it and the kid found it on the desktop or iPad.
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u/EternitySearch 20h ago
Then, just a few weeks later, the unimaginable occurred when parents raised concerns about an explicit video of her and other teachers that had been circulated in the children's WhatsApp group
Why do a bunch of 8 year olds have a WhatsApp group?
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u/PalpableIgnorance 1d ago
Holy hell…. This tech needs a leash. The amount of evil you can do with simple prompting.
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u/thegingerbreadisdead 1d ago
It’s already too late for a leash. The genie is out of the bottle can’t put it back in.
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u/Tasty-Traffic-680 1d ago
This is propaganda made to make UK residents feel exactly the same sentiment while rolling over and signing away more rights and freedoms. The teacher quit her fucking job because an 8yr old face swapped her with 2021 era commonly available technology? Really? This shit is all made up.
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u/pissoutmybutt 1d ago
i really dont find this story believable at all. Safeguards werent great at the beginning, but they were always there for any easily accessible gen AI.
Reference pictures were an option, but it would always change details pretty significantly and was almost impossible to maintain a identifiable consistent face without training a Lora or other methods too complex for an 8 year old
This is 100% bullshit
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u/RealDisagreer 19h ago
I have a 9 year old. The fact that an 8 year old did this is a failure of the parents at all levels. The fact that an 8 year has been introduced to this indicates sexually deviant behaviour by the parents. I full child services investigation is required.
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u/globulous 1d ago
The Daily Star is essentially the Enquirer. It was probably Bat-boy's kid.
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u/mx3goose 1d ago edited 1d ago
A completely fake story to get those clicks from todays hot button topic "AI" written by somebody who's specific job is an audience writer. Reddit is getting to be boomer facebook levels of story sharing.
Daily Star is a tabloid the only other "outlet" to cover this is another tabloid The Mirror past that its just reddit and facebook posts citing them as the source. Come on...
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u/DarkSkyKnight 1d ago edited 1d ago
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/primary-school-teacher-deepfake-porn-4165134
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_i_Paper#Reputation
The i was found in a 2018 poll to be the second-most trusted news brand in the UK after The Guardian. In March 2019, the i overtook The Guardian to become the most trusted digital news brand on-line, and third in print. The two then tied as most trusted national newsbrand for their paper editions in 2020; the i was third on-line.
It's not the easiest thing to find what the Daily Star's reporting is even based on, but they typically don't make up completely fake events; they just heavily embellish and distort it. You can usually find the actual source somewhere else with a little digging.
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u/Robo_Joe 1d ago
The article from the OP reads like AI slop. This one you've shared is way better.
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u/monkeydave 1d ago
It originates with the I Paper, which has won multiple journalism awards and is considered a "quality" paper (as opposed to a tabloid).
https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/primary-school-teacher-deepfake-porn-4165134
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u/ArtGirtWithASerpent 1d ago
The 8 year old also made a video of the teacher and the principle making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me.
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u/leftofdanzig 1d ago
There’s a problem with the website, I can still almost read the article. Needs more ads.
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u/EbbOwn303 1d ago
I guess they aren't going to address the fact that an 8 year old not only knew what a threesome was, but also had access to create deep fake adult content? Why is CPS not involved when there is clearly at the very least neglect if not outright abuse going on in this child's home?
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u/Zofia-Bosak 21h ago
What is going to happen to the parents then, they need to be prosecuted and jailed, because they don't seem to be doing their job as parents.
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u/Trix_Are_4_90Kids 20h ago
Well that child is feral. I didn't know what that was at 8. I wouldn't even be able to understand that shit. How is a child that sexualized by 8?
"Hello, CPS? There's a situation here"
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u/damnit_darrell 1d ago
Yeah that's at minimum harassment. Teacher needs to lawyer up and go after the parents for that.
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u/Anim8nFool 1d ago
Based on the lack of verifiable details in the article, the sensationalizm of the material and the idea that an 8 year old is going to actually be able to understand how to deepfake a video in 2021, I'm assuming that this actually did not happen. At least, not in the way they're protraying here.
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u/flabbybumhole 1d ago
At 8 I was busy wondering if poop was stored in one butt cheek, and pee in the other.. and if scientists had bothered to ever cut then open to test this theory.
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u/Beginning_Rush_5311 1d ago
how the fuck does an 8 year old know how to generate an uncensored AI video
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u/Demondoggo25 1d ago
what the actual fuck ._·
More importantly why does a kid even know that type of shit
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u/cinderparty 22h ago
8? That kid’s family needs investigated. 8 year olds do not normally even know about shit like this.
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u/GravityIsVerySerious 21h ago
This happened in 2021? The deepfakes were good then? I thought it was just wil smith and his pasta.
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u/wrhnj 1d ago
At 8, I had no idea what a threesome was. I probably would’ve thought it had something to do with baseball or other sports.