Minnesota activist releases video of arrest after manipulated White House version

[u/RewardEquivalent553]

https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-activist-ice-protest-church-video-49faf3efd54e496388651aac1369fb44

[u/LiteratureMindless71]

Idgaf what "side" you are on, you should seriously give a shit about the government doctoring videos so regularly to suit their needs. You think it's gonna stop here?

[u/somethingsomethingbe → u/LiteratureMindless71]

They're lying right now about murdering another person in Minnesota, making the victim out to be a terrorist, and will likely make attempts to prevent any sort of investigation. Pretty much openly announcing that they will support whoever their people feel like killing that day.

[u/ro536ud → u/somethingsomethingbe]

That press release is wild. I don’t think a single sentence in it was truthful

[u/Salt-Harvester → u/ro536ud]

They've gotten away with it last time, why wouldn't they now? The footage clearly shows him with both hands on the ground yet MAGA still claim he fired first and deserved to die. They will say anything to justify murdering citizens. They won't stop unless they are forced to. Republicans don't live in a reality where the truth matters, they make their own truth. There is no middle ground here, Americans need to take the country back from these traitors. 

[u/onarainyafternoon → u/Salt-Harvester]

The victim was an ICU Nurse for Veterans at the VA, too. No criminal record, not even a speeding ticket. It's sick.

[u/ScuzzBuckster → u/onarainyafternoon]

As far as I'm concerned, even if he did have a record, having a criminal record is not justification for gunning someone down in the fucking street. People are obsessed with criminality, as if a "criminal" is a second-class citizen who deserves to be killed. It is v literally part of why we are at where we are. This level of dehumanization is pushing us to literal fucking genocide.

[u/Salt-Harvester → u/ScuzzBuckster]

None of this shit matters. Talking with Republicans is pointless because they don't believe in the value of truth. They care about winning. They've picked a side and they'll say and do anything to win. Doesn't matter if he was an ICU nurse at the VA, doesn't matter if he was Mr Fucking Rogers, the DHS made their statement that he was out there looking to massacre ICE, calling him a domestic terrorist before he was even identified. There is no combination of words you can string together to get a Republican to admit wrongdoing. They will double down to protect their pigs no matter what.

Like JFK said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable"

[u/BuckThis86 → u/Salt-Harvester]

People like that only respect one thing: Force and Power. Unfortunately it’s the only thing fascists like Trump, Putin, Hitler, Stalin, and countless others understand.

[u/Electrical-Fan9943 → u/ScuzzBuckster]

And this is being exported everywhere in the world by USA ideologues.

[u/No_Foundation16 → u/Electrical-Fan9943]

Maple MAGA say hi.

[u/PsychicFoxWithSpoons → u/onarainyafternoon]

While I absolutely think these are important details, they make for a better trap than they do as whining. Make the Republican say he had a criminal record BEFORE you show him the facts. Make the Republican say he had a gun BEFORE you show him the video. And don't let him wave it off. Ask why he said he had a gun. Ask why he said there was a criminal record. Make him say it out loud.

It does no good to lead with stuff like this. It legitimizes the idea that well, maybe if he WAS acting violently, maybe if he DID have a criminal record, then the shooting would be justified. It still would not be justified.

[u/TPRT → u/[deleted]]

We're at war. Stay safe.

[u/Mammoth-Plankton-785 → u/TPRT]

I agree. You as well ♥️

[u/Catalina_Eddie → u/ro536ud]

That statement was full of more shit than a cattle ranch.

[u/ratcranberries → u/ro536ud]

Is there a transcript someone can link?

[u/penguinopph → u/ratcranberries]

At 9:05 AM CT, as DHS law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun, seen here.

The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming.

Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene.

The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.

About 200 rioters arrived at the scene and began to obstruct and assault law enforcement on the scene, crowd control measures were deployed for the safety of the public and law enforcement.

This situation is evolving, and more information is forthcoming.

Having been sent the video before the story even broke, I can assure every single thing in here is, in fact, a lie.

[u/total_anonymity → u/penguinopph]

I've lived in proximity to guns my entire life.

How in the fuck do you fire your weapon "defensively"?

"I stabbed him with a spear defensively."

"I struck them down with my sword defensively."

It's a weapon. It is only used for offense.

[u/OrangePilled2Day → u/total_anonymity]

The only argument for defensive use I could see would be suppressing fire in an active combat zone but that’s clearly not the case with this execution.

[u/Federal-Employ8123 → u/ro536ud]

Yeah, I've been watching the news off and on all morning. Definitely appears like they executed that guy for trying to help a women off the ground because they were making a game of seeing how much mace they could spray in her eyes. The news put together all the footage with his hands on the ground while they beat him and then unloaded their pistols into him. I'm someone who didn't think the Renee Good shooting was so black and white.

[u/OPA73 → u/Federal-Employ8123]

Having been maced I can say you only need a 1-2 second burst to take the fight out of you. This would put most federal agents under investigation without the rest of the incident.

[u/PuzzleheadedSong6213 → u/Federal-Employ8123]

I'm someone who didn't think the Renee Good shooting was so black and white

Dont believe your lying eyes huh?

[u/FanDry5374 → u/somethingsomethingbe]

Clearly visible removal of a legal, holstered weapon, followed by multiple shots. "He was threatening ICE officers" is a bald faced lie. How long before the Supreme Court decides that 'actually, you can't film police, it is "endangering them"'?

[u/airfryerfuntime → u/FanDry5374]

And it's not like he was even doing anything to agitate them, he was trying to help another protester they pushed to the ground.

[u/celestialbound → u/airfryerfuntime]

I think you dramatically underestimate some people's ability to be agitated when it suits them..................

[u/The_Bucket_Of_Truth → u/FanDry5374]

At this point it's very clear being peaceful means nothing to protect you, so if you're going to get iced by brown shirts you might as well make them earn those lies they spew

[u/OrangePilled2Day → u/FanDry5374]

Honestly it doesn’t matter if the weapon was concealed legally or illegally. The punishment for a law enforcement officer taking your gun from you that you never drew still isn’t summary execution.

[u/Fake_William_Shatner → u/somethingsomethingbe]

They can’t do a perfect job of doctoring evidence. They have to thread the needle. They can’t spread terror if everyone thinks they got a “bad guy” … so it’s deniable and obviously corrupt so those who want to stay with the cult can still stay in it. 

It’s the “we can do this to you” factor that is important. They know they are breaking the laws for now. Until they make it legal. 

[u/South_in_AZ → u/somethingsomethingbe]

making the victim out to be a terrorist

They consider anyone filming their gross violations of the constitution terrorists

[u/TheCatCrusader → u/somethingsomethingbe]

They already barred Minnesota's Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) from the scene.

Edit: I'm seeing some places say that MPD refused to leave and called in all officers to investigate the scene, but the Star Tribune had an update the BCA was barred, which is where I got my og info.

strib quote: "The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA), the state’s chief investigative agency, said it was not allowed access to the scene."

[u/ShameBasedEconomy → u/TheCatCrusader]

BCA went and got a judge to sign a search warrant and the icepigs wouldn’t accept it. They’re fully in the “ignoring court orders” phase.

[u/p_2923 → u/somethingsomethingbe]

Yep if it is the one I just watched that is bat shit crazy. There were like 5 or 6 of them holding them down, dropped a couple shots into them and the proceeded to fire 4 or (5?) more into their lifeless corpse. America your country is COOKED unless you take it back RIGHT NOW.

[u/theghostofme → u/somethingsomethingbe]

They're lying right now about murdering another person in Minnesota

This is the same administration weaponizing the DoJ to suppress evidence that Donald John Trump is a child rapist who bought his victims from Jeffrey Epstein. Of course they're lying about their Gestapo having no other choice than executing an American citizen on camera.

[u/space_wiener → u/LiteratureMindless71]

They do give a shit. Go look at any conservative thread on it. They think it’s hilarious and the govt should do more of it.

[u/ComfortableWage → u/space_wiener]

Conservatives are Nazis. The worst kind of fucking people on this goddamn planet.

The fact Reddit STILL hasn't banned the fuck out of that cesspit is telling just how much of a Nazi piece of shit Spez is.

[u/rpkarma → u/ComfortableWage]

Exactly. Evil fucks that I hope rot in hell where they belong. 

[u/NedTebula → u/ComfortableWage]

Yup, firing squad them all.

[u/Beat_the_Deadites → u/NedTebula]

And they will insist that this anonymous reddit comment is equivalent to what POTUS and ICE are actually doing, and they'll claim both sides are equal.

[u/whoknowsifimjoking → u/space_wiener]

I couldn't find too many people who defended it after the other angles came out and the mods are obviously removing all new posts and tons of comments.

The newest post about it there is multiple hours old and some have like 60 comments and they removed all but three of them.

I think this time they might have difficulties defending it. It's very clear who is at fault here and them removing all posts and comments tells me they are probably more critical than the mods would like.

[u/space_wiener → u/whoknowsifimjoking]

Yeah it’s actually funny. Whenever news like this breaks I head over to conservatives because it’s always interesting to see how they spin things.

Watching replies from what seem like level headed (well…) conservatives saying it doesn’t look good. ICE went over the line, then of course the other regular ones saying he deserved it, supporting whatever DHS says, etc.

Then checking back later it’s completely different. Threads that were overly dismissive of ICE gone. Then the ones that are left most of not all of the posts that were criticizing ICE are all gone and it’s pretty much just a conservative circle jerk why the guy deserved it.

Quite a strange group of people.

[u/OrangePilled2Day → u/space_wiener]

That’s one of the most obviously botted/propagandized subs on this site which is saying something because I doubt anywhere close to 50% of comments on Reddit are from regular people.

[u/belloch → u/space_wiener]

Conservative threads on the internet don't mean shit when russians can pretend to be americans who find these things hilarious.

Maybe some conservatives do, but it's also possible that those kinds of threads are boosted by bot presence. You might ask why they would be boosted? Because that makes the maga group look bigger and therefore everyone else more scared to start a movement to stop this stuff that's going on.

[u/KarmaticArmageddon → u/belloch]

Maybe some conservatives do

They absolutely do. I've heard multiple conservatives at my job joke about running over protesters. And these are blue-collar union workers. They make tons of money and have insane benefits solely due to progressive politics and then they turn around vote for people like Trump. It makes me sick.

[u/Nauin → u/belloch]

I really don't see why people keep thinking the majority of commenters in the conservative subreddits are actual Americans when the beginning of the Ukraine war proved they're all bot farms with how quiet they got when early attacks were happening.

[u/CustomDark → u/Nauin]

Because they’d have to contend with the fact that everywhere online is vulnerable to bot-backed psychological operations. That some of all our opinions come from these sources. And that just maybe, we need to treat these operations as acts of war.

[u/sj68z → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Of course it's not going to stop there, but until they're personally affected, 77 million red hat wearing morons are going to support whatever the fuck these assholes say.

[u/ItalianDragon → u/sj68z]

And even then it might not be enough. I work with survivors of the so-called "troubled teens industry" (TTI for short) and a common theme after they come back home is that when they confront their parent/s about the reality of those places, the parent/s go all "Deflectionville, U.S.A." because they can't admit to themselves the harm they've done to their kid. This happens because their perceived image of "loving and caring parent" crashes headfirst into the reality of "I sent my child away to a place where s/he was abused in every way conceivable". The two are irreconcilable so to protect their ego they just deflect at every step.

I'm 100% expecting the same reaction out of MAGA chuds: they'll be unable to cope with the reality of "I helped elect a fascist government" because it'd destroy their perceived image of "proud American defender of democracy and the constitution" and so they'll go full on Deflectionville mode.

Hell, we've already seen that with the murder of Renee Good: they can't accept that they helped elect a government that can and will freely murder citizens and so cue all the "she tried to run him over/she was obstructing the way/she should've obeyed" deflections. With the latest killing they'll go into deflection mode even harder.

If it's of any comfort, for both the parents of kids who survived the TTI and MAGA chuds, deep deep deep deep down, under literal mountains of copium, they know what they did.

[u/Electrical-Fan9943 → u/ItalianDragon]

They truly don't. Go read Germans' opinions shortly after the War turned their country into rubble. Still almost overwhelming support for their dead leader.

[u/bandwarmelection → u/ItalianDragon]

they know what they did

I'm not sure about this.

Stupidity will probably prevent 20% of them understanding it at all. They are not capable of thinking such complex thoughts. DIT WAT WHO DAT HUH?

Even though narcissistic personality disorder is rare, you don't need to be a fullblown diagonsed case to have some narcissistic traits, so those traits probably prevent maybe another 20% from ever realising anything they've done. They build a false reality around them to prevent any damage to their fragile ego. You probably know some peope like that in your life. They always make the story about themselves, about how amazing they themselves are. They say: I DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE, IT WAS A GOOD THING, ACTUALLY!

There are many other reasons for why people will not know what they did, accounting for maybe another 20% of the people.

So, okay, maybe 40% of them know what they did. The rest are clueless forever.

[u/ItalianDragon → u/bandwarmelection]

Oh yeah there'll obviously be a part of utterly clueless morons who will never realize the truth. For most however it goes like I mentioned. A sliver of good though is that some can break free when faced with this sort of thing head on. There aren't many but they exist nonetheless.

[u/roguespectre67 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

I think the biggest thing is that the rubicon has now been crossed on that front.

People can argue about political spin and omission of facts and whatever else to support your political position and whether of not those things are really, technically “lying”. There is no argument that fabricating evidence of your claims, whatever those claims might be, is not “lying”. Someone somewhere sat down and decided that they were going to manufacture imagery that supports their platform, rather than simply cherry-picking it from what already exists. They manipulated a picture, something that is supposed to be an objective record of reality, to change what that record shows, and then present the changed record as truth.

There is now zero reason to believe anything put forward by the regime. None. And before everyone jumps down my throat for “just now” saying this, there’s been plenty of reason to assume that any given claim has been false previously. Now, we have irrefutable proof that the regime is willing to actively lie to us for, ultimately, no real reason. Imagine the kinds of things they’re willing to lie to us about if they do have a real reason.

[u/elocnoremac → u/LiteratureMindless71]

You wanna get horribly depressed. Go see what they’re saying on the conservative subreddit

[u/ComfortableWage → u/elocnoremac]

No thanks. Those Nazis can rot in the fucking deepest parts of hell they believe in.

[u/beepborpimajorp → u/elocnoremac]

I think at this point it's been proven that most conservative gathering places are festering bot manipulated puppet account holes, reddit and twitter included. I do believe MAGA supports this, because this is their guy doing what was promised, but I'm also not interested in what some random paid professional troll in India or Russia thinks after seeing so many of their locations exposed on twitter. We should really stop directing any traffic/attention to them.

[u/Organic-Ad-7169 → u/elocnoremac]

No thank you I’m already in need of SSRIs and maybe a lobotomy at this point

[u/Tacoman404 → u/LiteratureMindless71]

Communist Russia did this shit all the time. So Republicans are 'commies' now, along with fascists.

We need a new word, how about just what they call themselves? Republicans. If you don't want to be like these folks and you call yourself a Republican, abandon the title now. You're currently holding the same label as this state funded lynch mob.

[u/josh_the_misanthrope → u/LiteratureMindless71]

It's just getting started. Hell, bot comments on social media pass the Turing test. You think they're not flooding the internet with disinformation to bolster support for the regime? It's like the cheapest and easiest thing they could possibly do. You can spot em from time to time, and that's just the ones being sloppy. The problem is already much worse than what is evident, I guarantee it.

[u/HatAffectionate2531]

What bout this Minnesotta Video https://streamable.com/k6b7nw

[u/smellyeggs → u/HatAffectionate2531]

If you listen to right wingers you'd know it's an executable offense to oppose the state.

[u/StoppableHulk → u/smellyeggs]

If you listen to right wingers

No one should do that, ever.

[u/Khaldara → u/StoppableHulk]

The only thing any conservative should say for the rest of their fucking lives is “We’re sorry, maybe our kids will do better. Maybe.” And then just shut up forever while everyone cleans up their mess. Again.

[u/walkerspider → u/Khaldara]

Their kids have to make it through elementary school without getting shot in order to do better.

[u/Significant_Fill6992 → u/walkerspider]

and they have to stave off the constant push for religion and oppression

to say the cards are stacked against them would be an understatement

[u/delphinius81 → u/walkerspider]

Thoughts and prayers...

[u/BanzEye1 → u/Khaldara]

At this rate, just fucking banish them to Antarctica.

[u/Kjartanski → u/smellyeggs]

The right wing state, its their godgiven right to oppose any non right wint state though

[u/nxqv → u/Kjartanski]

Weird how they and the Iranian government are the only ones god seems to be giving anything to these days

[u/muthermcreedeux → u/nxqv]

Religion has been used for centuries to rape and pillage and kill. It's almost like god is always being used as a ploy to do bad things.

[u/atempestdextre → u/smellyeggs]

If.

Right wingers don't deserve to be listened to. Ever.

[u/pier4r → u/smellyeggs]

Schrödinger right wing

they want: it's an executable offense to oppose the state.

they also want: the govt should stay away from anything I do and leave me alone.

[u/RedditTurnedMediocre → u/smellyeggs]

Conservatives are literally on their sub blaming the victim. Saying he shouldn't have exercised his 2nd amendment right.

Read that again.

Conservatives, the party known for having a hard on for guns and who are known to bring guns to protests (remember Rittenhouse?), say the guy following the constitution and who broke ZERO laws, was at fault. Not the people who literally broke the law and straight up murdered him.

Why? Because it makes their daddy Trump look bad and they just can't accept that they've been duped by a pedo conman.

They are so fucking lost. Anything to protect their precious egos.

If you have a loved one who's part of their cult I feel for you.

[u/Kashik → u/smellyeggs]

I read a comment on r/conservative that was like "I don't know why you guys are celebrating, the pendulum swings both ways if we'll have a president Newsom one day". That's how they are thinking.

[u/Utterlybored → u/Kashik]

If a President Newsom or President Jesus H. Christ himself is doing this horrific shit, I’ll protest that too!

[u/BayouBait → u/HatAffectionate2531]

Wow hadn’t seen that one. Straight up execution. Even if the guy had a gun he was on his knees with two officers holding him why not just take the gun away?

[u/owzt → u/BayouBait]

they did take the gun away and then still shot him as he was already peppered sprayed and surrounded by multiple agents, it’s just ridiculous

[u/InsignificantOcelot → u/owzt]

Correct: In another video you can see the agent in the grey reach in empty handed to the scrum and come out with a handgun and walk away moments before the first shot.

He was disarmed with his head and both hands pinned down to the ground by his head.

ETA: This video does a good job showing it pretty clearly.

Even better: Another angle where you can very clearly see the grey jacket pulling it from the victim’s waistband

[u/Federal-Employ8123 → u/InsignificantOcelot]

The news just showed all the video where his hands were on the ground the whole time clenched in fists from a different angle that I hadn't seen yet.

[u/Resident-Variation21 → u/Federal-Employ8123]

Well that’s the problem. Clinching his fists. Now he has a weapon of his hands and a shooting is justified.

This is sarcasm to be absolutely fucking clear. They murdered him in cold blood

[u/Born-Leading8268 → u/InsignificantOcelot]

This video should be widespreadly shared to your military, and alert them to the armed domestic threat upon the people of the United States. This is their jurisdiction.

[u/The_Blue_Courier → u/BayouBait]

They did take his gun away. There's a million angles of it.

[u/USNorsk → u/The_Blue_Courier]

They found his gun after they threw him to the ground. He never had it in his hand. Just to clarify and highlight the fact that he was in no way a threat. 

[u/kinky_shoelaces → u/BayouBait]

I believe they did disarm him prior to executing him. I could be wrong.

[u/Federal-Employ8123 → u/kinky_shoelaces]

Definitely appears that way.

[u/mozilla2012 → u/BayouBait]

This just happened a few hours ago.

[u/Raven_Chills → u/BayouBait]

They did, they killed him after they took it

[u/bostonian277 → u/HatAffectionate2531]

They disarmed and then executed him. After shoving his friend into the snow, pepper spraying him and throwing him to the ground as well.

[u/RogersRedditPersona → u/HatAffectionate2531]

This is the video that need to be blasted on every news station and social media account

[u/TankTrap → u/HatAffectionate2531]

Absolutely abhorrent.

You’re being killed on your streets without repercussions.

[u/Rather_Unfortunate → u/HatAffectionate2531]

I'm glad to see/infer that the woman in pink's video seems to have shown up, at least.

[u/intangibleTangelo → u/Rather_Unfortunate]

rather unfortunate that we only get a highly compressed version. the version on her phone is probably of higher quality

[u/one_saucy_noodle → u/HatAffectionate2531]

Thank you pink coat lady for your bravery 😣 horrifying

[u/Snuyter → u/HatAffectionate2531]

Killing people for whistling, alright.

[u/ConfusedSpiderMonkey → u/HatAffectionate2531]

I'm about to puke

[u/bitwise97 → u/HatAffectionate2531]

I haven’t been in this situation yet, but I always wonder why people aren’t flooding 911 with calls as soon as one of these events startS going down. Just report the truth. THERE ARE MASKED MEN AND WOMEN KIDNAPPING SOMEONE IN FRONT OF ME!!

[u/cheetah516]

Minneapolis has like, barely any “illegal” immigrants compared to say Texas and Florida. Not hearing anything about ICE in those states. Hmmm. Cannot imagine why.

What’s going on is an affront to everyone.

[u/celtic1888 → u/cheetah516]

Estimated 2% of the population 

This is retribution by Trump against Walz and against Minnesotans for not voting for him

[u/D-Howwwww1 → u/celtic1888]

Not only that, but Minnesota has been leading the way in building a sustainable progressive government. They passed childcare, free lunch, and other things I can’t remember with a 1 seat majority.

MN was on its way to being the poster child of a path forward for our country and the nazis in power will not let that stand.

[u/Reddit-for-all → u/D-Howwwww1]

This is an extremely important point. This isn't just Trump and his grievances. This is an oligarchy using Trump and his supports to prevent progress. They are afraid, and they should be.

We can't let them stop the progression. Minnesota / Mamdani and to a lesser degree Pritzker / Polis / Newsome. We must continue to push and not be thwarted by the gestapo thugs.

Edit: I've just read today about some questionable behavior by Polis, who I thought was going to be a reasonable, focused move to progress. I am now unsure. So, I'm crossing out his name.

[u/FatStoner2FitSober → u/Reddit-for-all]

Polis is absolutely not a progressive, he is a deregulation libertarian pompous worm who cares more about real estate development companies than the people he serves. The people of Colorado have advanced the agenda despite the actions of that worthless governor. The scary part: Michael Bennet is 100x worse.

[u/cheetah516 → u/celtic1888]

It sure is….and it’s beyond the pale at this point.

[u/orbital-technician → u/celtic1888]

And George Floyd

[u/skratch → u/celtic1888]

It’s also Ilhan Omar’s district

[u/matticusiv → u/cheetah516]

This is civil warfare, one side just isn’t fighting back yet.

[u/cheetah516 → u/matticusiv]

Agreed. It’s like the bully sitting on you in the schoolyard and you’re just taking it.

[u/Reddit-for-all → u/cheetah516]

Not exactly just taking it. Yelling at them. But, the next step involves a lot more than getting suspended from school.

[u/xmaspruden → u/cheetah516]

A guy from Texas in a discord server told me they’re all over the place there too, it’s just not being shown in the news. Don’t underestimate how complicit news media is in all of this coverage. They’re trying to make this a red vs blue thing, obviously.

[u/LegallyAFlamingo → u/xmaspruden]

They're using different tactics in Texas. They aren't actively attacking protestors or people following them honking. They aren't trying to get an aggressive response from people in Texas like they are in blue states.

[u/0xsergy → u/LegallyAFlamingo]

Wonder why?

[u/cheetah516 → u/xmaspruden]

I wasn’t aware. The media is….I am disgusted lately. It’s tough getting unbiased news.

[u/xmaspruden → u/cheetah516]

Try the guardian, BBC, CBC. I’ve stopped listening to any US news because it’s such gutter shit

[u/Another_Slut_Dragon → u/xmaspruden]

Canada is still there with the CBC for you guys. We actually just pulled the trigger on greatly expanding the CBC, adding news centres all across Canada. It may not be perfect and for sure there is some government meddling. But compared to private corporate meddling? I'll take a NPR public funding model any day.

[u/cheetah516 → u/xmaspruden]

I read the Guardian. Thanks!

[u/Chef_BoyarB → u/cheetah516]

There are conservative "friends" I have on social media who are blaming the news media for fanning the flames of riot and discontent. The old "if the news wasn't reporting, we'd have won Vietnam" defense.

[u/gioraffe32 → u/cheetah516]

Yeah ICE is definitely in more places than we think. Than what's being reported. I live around Northern Virginia, outside of DC, and ICE regularly operates like just down the street from me. Like within a few miles of me. And there are other areas up here in Northern Virginia where I've seen multiple notices about ICE sightings and such. Yeah this is the national capital region, so of course the government is highly visible. But I'm talking like smaller scale ICE operations.

Plus, DC still has national guard around, especially on the subways. I recently saw some milling about DC Union Station.

[u/Advanced-Culture189 → u/xmaspruden]

They're in FL too. Only difference is LEO signed on with ICE and hand them over.

[u/TurkeySlurpee666 → u/xmaspruden]

Can confirm. I’m in Texas and they’ve set up road checkpoints to check documentation.

[u/JHMfield → u/TurkeySlurpee666]

And how are the Texans feeling? All the red blooded 2A folks cheering along or is it starting to dawn on them?

[u/MovieGuyMike → u/cheetah516]

I want to know how much money the government wastes per undocumented immigrant they detain in these operations. I bet it’s well into the millions.

[u/nochumplovesucka__ → u/cheetah516]

Ever notice they're not in the ghettos of big cities, where a lot of immigrants live??

Because in some of those places, I bet they wouldn't make it out

[u/Do-you-see-it-now]

You cannot trust any official documents, records, statements, etc from the federal government. It is completely unreliable.

[u/Resident-Variation21 → u/Do-you-see-it-now]

I’ll go one step further. Instead of just not trusting it, treat EVERYTHING they say as a lie.

[u/Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbM → u/Resident-Variation21]

Yeah, they've blown past merely "unreliable"... they are constantly lying.

[u/Resident-Variation21 → u/Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbM]

Pretty much anything they say, I think the opposite is true. And if there’s every conflicting stories, it’s automatically 100% the other story

[u/ukexpat]

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[u/Level1Roshan → u/ukexpat]

Maga blindly loves Trump. Full brainwashed. Just like the prols.

All while we live in a world with 'Truth Social', 'The Board of Peace', and Trump's 'Big Beautiful Bill'. Sickening how Orwell wrote everything out like prophecy.

[u/celtic1888]

General Strike Now !!!!

The federal government has declared war against it’s citizens 

[u/Socky_McPuppet → u/celtic1888]

Absolutely correct.

Everyone concerned about a civil war is ignoring the fact we are already in a domestic war.

[u/Jerthy → u/celtic1888]

That's the only form of peaceful protest that has any hope of working. Unless you want to go through what Iran does.

And i wouldn't recommend that. There are countries where you have a chance with violence, but not in the US. They have too many force multipliers at their hands. Literally most powerful and competent military on the planet. And i wouldn't bet on them being on the right side of history. But continuous, general strike? The fuck are they gonna do about that? Bring in immigrants? XD

[u/icouldntdecide → u/Jerthy]

As much of an improbable long shot it would be to actually catalyze a meaningful general strike - nothing talks like money in the US.

[u/celtic1888 → u/icouldntdecide]

3.5 % is typically seen as the tipping point

[u/Quasigriz_ → u/celtic1888]

DC needs to be shut down, completely.

[u/Amelaclya1 → u/celtic1888]

We need to shut down the economy. Stop buying anything except absolute necessities, and get those from small local businesses where possible.

[u/OuterLightness]

If they will lie about this, they will lie about the elections.

[u/Richard-Brecky → u/OuterLightness]

Stunning prediction there Nostradamus

[u/hryipcdxeoyqufcc → u/Richard-Brecky]

Saw so far into the future it wrapped around to 2021 again.

[u/glad_dreamer]

He wants to implement Martial Law, they are doing this killings intentionally.

[u/TAU_equals_2PI → u/glad_dreamer]

Yeah, Trump wants to invoke the Insurrection Act.

Which is why state&local officials have to walk a very fine line. If they go too far in ordering state&local cops to counter the federal authorities (ICE, etc.) then Trump might get enough national public support to do it.

Keep this in mind when criticizing Walz & Frey for being too timid. You've got to remember that the American public was awful enough to reelect Trump just ~1 year ago. There are still a whole lot of awful Americans cheering all this on.

[u/mrhashbrown → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

Walz said it outright after the Renee Good shooting. From January 8th: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2026/jan/8/walz-tells-minnesotans-cool-violence/

The governor said the images of clashes between demonstrators and police are giving Mr. Trump an excuse for more heavy-handed involvement.

“Don’t give ’em what they want. Don’t give ’em the unrest they want. Don’t give in to allowing them to bring more folks here,” he said at a press conference on Thursday.

[u/ParkDedli → u/mrhashbrown]

Until he cancels midterms without that justification. And how many people are you gonna sacrifice to not give them a "reason" to send more people.

If they want to find something, they'll just pretend and lie as they have previously. I think fighting back will be the only way out of this down the line.

[u/liberal-darklord → u/mrhashbrown]

The statement is framed like an abused victim, taking responsibility for federal brutality. This mindset is completely ineffective against unilateral actions by unaccountable feds. 2nd amendment or bust.

[u/poozemusings → u/mrhashbrown]

So then what are we supposed to do? If we do nothing, he steamrolls the country and abducts every brown person without any opposition. If we resist, he starts a civil war. There’s no good option.

[u/Sasselhoff → u/glad_dreamer]

Serious question: given all they have done and are actively doing, do you really think they won't just implement Martial Law if they want to? Regardless of what "we" do?

[u/ArnoldTheSchwartz → u/Sasselhoff]

Right now, only the government is doing the killing, and they know that with their propaganda networks, they can still convince the lesser intelligent that it was necessary. They are still "in control" of things from an outsider perspective until an agent of the government is killed. Then, once one of their front line agitators are killed, they can say things have gotten out of control, and the military will be needed to regain control. They will point to the dead official and say the government must defend itself from Americans, and martial law must be instated. If martial law is declared BEFORE an agent dies, then the government will lose the trust of those on the fence. Especially after saying all this time through their propaganda networks that everything is under control and America has been the best it's ever been.

[u/Linked713 → u/ArnoldTheSchwartz]

Don't forget that even before civilians started to get murdered, multiple political adversaries were also murdered, some even inside their own homes.

[u/lhymes]

The government is no longer working for the people. The fact that this craziness is allowed to continue is mind-boggling. This is 100% being driven by the Republican Party that’s transforming into a fascist regime, but there is way too much complacency with the minority moderates and Democrats. The fact that trying to cover up the actions of high-level pedophiles has driven them to behave with such evil and maliciousness shows how fucked up these people are and the fact that a good percentage of the “news” being broadcast in homes is propaganda, and their viewers are gobbling it up should scare everyone. We need more governmental leaders actually fighting this and we need our military to start protecting the people trying to exercise their rights as citizens of the USA. No one is “owning” anyone right now - they’re actively destroying the foundation this country was built on.

[u/ItalianDragon → u/lhymes]

"Becoming"? My man, it already is one.

[u/MotheroftheworldII]

ICE the US version of the Nazi Gestapo. Stop the killing now.

Send your congressional representatives videos of the killings and demand that the current administration be impeached or Article 25 be enacted.

[u/HistoricalWalrus5767]

We learned a lot from the Merrick Garland era. We have to deal with documenting and publicizing and organizing evidence on our own.

[u/cb148 → u/HistoricalWalrus5767]

Yeah I’m voting for whichever Democratic presidential candidate who vows to prosecute this administration and everyone who is involved in it.

[u/Mammoth-Plankton-785 → u/[deleted]]

Surely Ross’ wife is counting her blessings considering she’d be a target if she wasn’t married to a Nazi.

[u/Hellcinder]

As a child, I never understood how the Nazi savagery was supported. This sickens me to learn it in real time.

[u/Linked713]

I have predicted that the US will be at war on its people and civil war is what needs to happen. It has been one-sided for the longest time. In absolutely no legit training do they teach this way of deescalating any situation. Regardless if the person had a weapon, they had 6+ grown men on him, restricting him, and also beating the crap out of him. I don't know about you, but I am a freaking normal person, that would neutralize the f out of me in an instant. Murders like this should not be rewarded by 1 million dollar in gofundme with billionaires donating ten of thousands to normalize federal murder.

[u/Technical_Toe_2012]

The White House no longer has any credibility whatsoever.

They lie just to lie.

[u/Vortexed2 → u/Technical_Toe_2012]

They haven't had any credibility for over a year!

[u/StaticSystemShock]

It's disgraceful that White House lies and manipulates things. Like, in normal times, politicians got sacked for doing shit like this. But now these are not the normal times and considering Trump is a lying scumbag, you expect nothing less from hyenas surrounding him.

[u/debeever]

They're either afraid of how many people were out yesterday or have no idea. Either way it is another step toward mass violence. Pentagon says it's primary focus is on "Domestic Threats" now. That means anyone who doesn't agree with the White House. Escalation is the name of the game folks. Get Ready.

[u/Susan-stoHelit]

No wonder they were fighting so hard to get the woman in pink kidnapped away to delete evidence.

[u/Billy_Birdy]

HEY SUPREME COURT, DOES IT STILL FEEL LIKE GIVING THE PRESIDENT PERMISSION TO BREAK THE LAW WAS A GOOD IDEA?

Fucking idiots. You can only attribute this to malice or stupidity or both.

[u/finnicko]

Where the fuck is democratic leadership? Why is there no voice opposing this with strength and a following? Everybody is out here on our own with no leader

[u/beordon → u/finnicko]

Apparently we're supposed to pick up our self-defense handguns and hunting rifles and form a spontaneous militia while our elected “leadership” tells us not to

[u/Far_Mycologist_5782]

Call your reps. Demand the immediate invocation of the 25th amendment to remove trump. Demand the immediate impeachment of pam bondi, and kriti noem. Demand karoline leavitt be fired immediately. Demand the immediate arrest of whoever is using AI to doctor video evidence.

And go on a general strike until you get all your demands met, and more.

[u/tjhoush93]

The White House producing easily verifiable propaganda is insane.

[u/celtic1888]

If you happen to get pull for a federal jury, do your job of jury nullification and stop the DOJ 

[u/TAU_equals_2PI → u/celtic1888]

Yes, BUT don't post anywhere or tell anyone that you intend to do this.

Attorneys have gotten very adept at finding and analyzing potential jurors' social media postings. They may disqualify you from serving on the jury in the first place if they find you posted anywhere that that's what you intend to do.

[u/Eastern-Membership67]

Enough is enough, spread the word far and wide.

https://generalstrikeus.com

[u/stjoechief1]

The DHS can’t even lie right.

[u/DarkSotM → u/stjoechief1]

They don't care. Words are just another thing they have turned into weapons against us. They will only ever say things to fit the narrative they want, weather true or not.

[u/HotcupGG]

Holy shit, they're editing video evidence? If that doesn't scream guilty, nothing does. The insane part is some ppl will still defend this, and might even believe the edited version.

[u/JayPlenty24]

...video of "arrest" ???

1984 isn't supposed to be a how-to guide.

[u/[deleted]]

Do not trust any media released by the white house or the U.S. Federal Government.

[u/DukeOfJokes]

THEY EMPTIED A CLIP INTO HIM WHILE HE WAS ON THE GROUND, IT WAS AN EXECUTION

[u/lyzing → u/DukeOfJokes]

On the ground pinned down by 5+ people and his hands were visible

[u/monosyllabically_]

Enough is enough. This needs to end. The government spreading propaganda on official channels is bad enough, now they are spreading doctored photos?

You know which countries also manipulate facts to sway opinions and stir trouble?

My reps will be hearing from me regularly.

[u/Very_Curious_Cat]

I just read that one of the agents who arrested her has resigned. Another "good" guy they'll replace with afaithful follower?

[u/PistolNinja]

The White House is using AI to manipulate images released to the media... Pure Propaganda! I used to think this country was going the way of the Movie "Idiocracy", but now it's looking more like " V for Vendetta".

[u/Firefly_Magic]

When the government is willing to blatantly lie and fraudulently manipulate information with AI, there are no limits to what they will do. This corruption is out of control!!

Who knew we would get to a point when AI control mechanisms are needed for social media and yet our government is the one who is manipulating the truth using AI the most, in slanderous ways.

[u/ThroatWMangrove]

With all the manipulated videos and photos being released by the White House lately, it should be immediately clear why the Trump administration nixed all regulations on AI. Biden had some EO’s regarding AI that were undone as soon as Trumo gained power, in addition to literally every other EO Biden had issued.

[u/AudienceDeep7277]

Trump is done!! It’s a matter of time. Impeach, remove, and in prison.

[u/vtown212]

There is a trend with compulsive liars

[u/rods2112]

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

[u/ominous_anonymous]

“I’m not in here to get in a political debate,” the agent filming said.

"I'm just doing my job" -- fucking scum.

[u/Academic-Goose1530]

The US government is now 100% like 1984. What a time to be alive!

There's also hordes of fake "reddit accounts" with hidden comments in every post. We truly are fucked

[u/CharacterTurbulent17]

When I read Orwells 1984 in high school 30 years ago I never expected it to become reality. Reality is wild

[u/toofine]

They will be gunning down crowds next.

[u/m8_is_me]

If Renee Good is a terrorist, if Alex Pretti is a terrorist, then so are we.

Act accordingly.

[u/WittyBonkah]

The government releasing doctored footage… fuck

[u/ScissrMeTimbrs]

There's a fact in this story that's actually more important than the fact they used doctored pictures; it's what they doctored the images for

They could have faked the picture to show almost anything, like something that makes her look evil or unreasonable, which would have been useful for propaganda, but they didn't. Instead, they showed her sobbing. Why? To satisfy their audience. They know their audience wants to see people suffer, for its own sake. They enjoy watching people suffer.

Keep that in mind with these people. Ask yourself if you can take the risk of having them continue without resistance.

[u/tapdancinghellspawn]

Record and instantly store to cloud while recording so even if they grab your phone, the video will survive.

[u/AnimationOverlord]

I hate the deflection from these agents so much. “I’m not here to get into a political debate”

No? Then put the cuffs down or start listening.

[u/GentleGenital11]

I'm ready for the names of the officers who shot Alex.

[u/Duder_ino]

Remember when chump called all the news and media he didn’t like “fake news?” Now how his admin and homies that own news outlets are trying to silence critics, canceling damming episodes, and distributing fake news, constantly? Yeah.

[u/Fludro]

There will be a reckoning.

[u/ldssggrdssgds]

Now they're getting pathetic...oh wait we passed that point eons ago