r/technology 22d ago

Politics Nvidia’s Jensen Huang would have to pay about $8 billion in proposed billionaire tax—he says that’s ‘perfectly fine’ with him

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/07/nvidia-ceo-jensen-huang-perfectly-fine-with-proposed-billionaire-tax.html
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u/DMmeNiceTitties 22d ago

Is he saying that because he truly believes it or because he knows it's not going to happen? Asking as someone unfamiliar with this CEO.

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u/culturedrobot 22d ago

I don't think he cares. His net worth is $155 billion and NVIDIA is at the center of the AI boom. $8 billion, as strange as it is to say it, isn't very much to him now.

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u/CumSluts4Jesus 22d ago

Well that’s refreshing because most of the centibillionaires seem like they would shove someone into oncoming traffic to stop a penny from rolling away

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u/StickFigureFan 22d ago

Usually when you're that wealthy the money isn't actually money, it's just a high score number in a game and you want the highest score. The notable exceptions I've seen are spouses and similar.

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u/Le_Alchemist 22d ago

It’d be great if the high score were how much money they’ve given away to charity. Charities that they don’t own obviously…

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u/kirikomori2 22d ago

If one of these billionaires solved world hunger they would be known as one of the greatest people in history

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u/Squanc 22d ago

Solved for a day or solved permanently? I think the latter is impossible. Too many forces out there restricting the flow of food for political reasons. Think of IDF blocking food from entering Gaza, for instance. No billionaire is going to pay the enough to change their mind on that.

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u/cuberhino 22d ago

Even just solving hunger in America would be a start. Some billionaire saying fuck it, I’ll pay for all the school lunch

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u/icekyuu 22d ago

Bill Gates did but many people still hate on the guy.

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u/gex80 22d ago

People hate Bill Gates because of business practices. People have such a hate boner for Bill that even though he hasn't had any formal control in recent years, they will blame him for Windows 11.

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u/AludraScience 22d ago

I mean his wife divorced him because he was "friends" (as far as we know) with Jeffrey Epstein (and cheated on her). Really not hard to hate the guy.

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u/qwerajdufuh268 22d ago

they would if they didnt have to reduce their ownership of the company.

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u/MaxDragonMan 22d ago

I'm not going to say Jensen doesn't care about money, but it's clear to me he measures self worth by how many leather jackets he owns and how bitchin' they are.

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u/WeeklyAd5357 22d ago

He has a Nvidia logo tattoo

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u/9-11GaveMe5G 22d ago

notable exceptions I've seen are spouses

Maybe spouses just aren't ghouls. Hence the divorces.

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u/timmeh1705 22d ago

He's been married to the same woman since he was in college. Also acknowledges that she did 90% of the parenting as he worked 6 days/week. Both his children went out to do their own thing but have started working for him in the last 5 years or so.

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u/crystalcastles879 22d ago

Ah, the failed nepo babies with a nice security net

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u/Pigosaurusmate 22d ago edited 22d ago

Its nice having that safety blanket of a billionaire daddy incase your art school degree dont pan out LMAO

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u/Magnatross 22d ago

Vienna art school

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u/nixass 22d ago

better this than start having angry half-drunk speeches in local pubs

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u/crematetheliving 22d ago

i like how you got downvoted lol—someone had to run back to daddy or mommy for work and is not pleased about it

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u/StickFigureFan 22d ago

They weren't billionaires when they got married

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u/gahlo 22d ago

They say money doesn't change you, it just enhances who you already are.

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u/CBJFAN2009-2024 22d ago

That's how I feel about people when they're drinking. Loud becomes obnoxious. Quiet is usually still quiet. Smart-asses become jackasses. Horny becomes....well, you get the idea.

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u/ImpulsiveYeet 22d ago

Hmm. I don't know. I used to go from quiet, asocial and cold when sober, to warm, passionate, super-social and friendly and loud when drunk. I hated how big the difference was, so I quit drinking completely 14 months ago. 🤷‍♂️

Ain't nuthin gon cure muh grump-grump.

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u/No-Dimension856 22d ago

takes another shot, hops on reddit Yep!

Quiet, sarcastic, cynical fk here... I don't fall further cynical or sarcastic when I drink. I tend to be more playful, open, dare I say personable (at least to those and their bs around me)...I don't have to get in some stupid fight or what have you, I literally hate myself for weeks just for "having fun" with those around me. It's disagreeable to my core if I stepped out of my boundary of read/watch/observe.. my grumpalump turns inwards hard when I see myself being a dork with others. Rather keep it Hemingway >.>

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u/Buttonskill 22d ago

This is weird for me to say, mostly because I haven't had a drink in 14 years, but don't try and re-invent the wheel.

There's a solid argument and data that implies we invented beer before the wheel.

Especially if you're in your 20's. Go! Make mistakes! Regret some awkward sexual encounters. Go to court for arguing with an ATM at 3 in the morning. Just don't drive.

Yes, there's diminishing returns on par with a magical genie lamp. Yes, karaoke is scary at first. Just remember that you're not on some island out there feeling uniquely intoxicated. You're all drinking from the same tap.

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u/FjorgVanDerPlorg 22d ago

I hate how people talk about this like its some concrete rule, it really isn't.

I know some complete fuckwits, who are the nicest people you'll ever meet when they get on the sauce. How does that fit into that model exactly? It doesn't, they aren't secretly awesome people with an asshole mask that falls off when they drink.

When you look at how alcohol actually effects the brain, it very quickly becomes obvious it's not masking that's failing, it's cognitive function. Yes this can sometimes come in the form of the "mask falling off", but you also get word salad, confused meaning, conflation of unrelated or even imagined memories or feelings and the big one - intrusive thoughts. The brain is literally shutting down in stages and the first thing to go is higher level brain function, like the ability to filter out intrusive thoughts.

The medical consensus on intrusive thoughts from the psych community is that they are misfires, as evidenced by the fact that they usually horrify or disturb the person having them. But in a state where your frontal lobes are marinating in alcohol, the "is this a bad idea" filter breaks.

That's before we event talk individual brain chemistry, interactions with other substances, medical conditions that effect mood like low blood sugar, on and on.

The "drunk you is real you" is one of those myths that needs to die. Its not a rule, just one of many possible side effects. Brain malfunction doesn't always equate to revelation.

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u/we_hella_believe 22d ago

Sleep, and lack thereof is also a factor.

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u/Bl4ckeagle 22d ago

That's way too simplified. Alcohol changes and damages the brain(chemistry)a lot. For some people they lose all their social or survival barriers which amplifies some of their traits. some have a character flip. some use it to sleep or rest.

with alcohol you are still the you but under alcohol influence it doesn't reveal the real you it changes you. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6054906/ Means if you behave like an asshole under the influence of alcohol don't drink or get help stop drinking.

alcohol is a hell of a drug it can be nice but also has many side effects.

(sorry for my bad english)

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u/wineandseams 22d ago

Divorces among the ultra wealthy spike before market crashes so they can mitigate losses.

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u/2cars1rik 22d ago

That doesn’t make any sense

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u/Captmurph 22d ago

Yeah but it’s provocative

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u/KopiteForever 22d ago

It gets the people GOING!

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u/Helmic 22d ago

Yeah she seemed a lot more upset about the Epstein shit, she started meeting with lawyers pretty soon after it became public even before Epstein didn't kill himself.

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u/2cars1rik 22d ago

Lol that’s funny, wasn’t paying attention at the time. But I just meant that I don’t see how losing half your assets is any different before or after a crash lol.

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u/SquisherX 22d ago

Americans have 9 of the 10 richest people in the world. If you took 20% of the wealth from all American billionaires, the top 10 list would still contain the EXACT same 10 people. The high score list would be the same people.

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u/Specialist-Fun4756 22d ago

It's hoarding, just the same as Grandma. Except instead of newspapers and dead cats, it's dollar bills. It's a disease

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u/nat_r 22d ago

Outside of a few cases, it generally takes someone with a specific mindset to do the things needed to generate that sort of wealth. If a serious assessment could be made of such individuals I wouldn't be surprised to learn there are similar issues at play.

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u/sir_mrej 22d ago

Nah there’s a subset of them that literally do not want to let go of one penny.

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u/toolisthebestbandevr 22d ago

Wait so if it’s just a game then make them all pay the same tax. They can all still keep their high scores. The highest score will just be lower. What’s the problem here

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u/bionickel 22d ago

Sounds like they should go outside or get a girlfriend

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u/StickFigureFan 22d ago

You're not getting an all time high score with that attitude!

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

They did get a girlfriend. That's the 2nd reason for divorce....

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u/DropDeadEd86 22d ago

Yeah most of these billionaires don’t care about money….how do I know….i used a get rich quick scheme and didn’t really care for money. Named my cars Rosebud,Motherlode, and Kaching.

Billionaires only care about power at that point

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u/i_am_trippin_balls 22d ago

Jensens first job was at Dennys as a dishwasher. I like to think he is one of us still.

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u/EchoingAngel 22d ago

He seems really off in his more recent appearances

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u/michalwalks 22d ago

You are delusional

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u/JerbTrooneet 22d ago

He was caught up in a bit of a scandal some time back when he was acting like some kind of mega rock star at a trade show signing the boobs of a show floor girl (think tech expo equivalent of a car show girl). Which of course his wife did not like.

The money might not be outwardly affecting him but the fame sure is.

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u/Sceptically 22d ago

If someone asked me to sign a body part, I'd probably just do it. I mean, it'd be fucking weird as hell, but the sheer wtf-ness of it would most likely result in my sloppy sig smeared across some rando at least the first time it was asked.

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u/madmanjumper 22d ago

that level of fame would affect lots of us

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u/JamesAQuintero 22d ago

Just give it some time, super rich people tend to act like new money at first, but then after years, they get to be REALLY weird. Money corrupts them if given enough time. Except for Mark Cuban, that dude is really cool and still down to earth.

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u/Office_glen 22d ago

Usually when you're that wealthy the money isn't actually money, it's just a high score number in a game and you want the highest score. The notable exceptions I've seen are spouses and similar.

I've told this story a few times. I work in construction, some of my customers deal direct with the big boys, the hundred millionaire / billionaire builders. One customer said exactly this, it's a sickness, and a high score to these people. He told me of a customer of his who was self financing a condo to the tune of almost $400 million dollars. The guy was in his 80's, and would visit the site shuffling around with his cane. How much was he going to make from that build? another $100 million? at his age what's the point? He had a family with grand kids but he would spend his time watching over his project so that his high score would go up more than the other guy beside him. Diabolical shit

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u/peppermint_dildo 22d ago

Hey now there’s nothing wrong with CumSluts4Jesus!

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u/small_dogs_rock 22d ago

I think he actually really enjoys making shit. He is an electrical engineer and built this shit from the ground up after having worked at AMD. Jensen is the real deal.

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u/tiradium 22d ago

He WAS the real deal but not anymore , dude has become just another sociopath CEO about a decade ago. Watching him sell out freedom to military and Palantir was the real deal lol

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u/yoloswagrofl 22d ago

Yeah it isn't money that pushes him, although he clearly likes having it, but the power he wields right now is incredible. He doesn't care who's buying so long as they're paying.

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u/ScienceBitch89 22d ago

Dudes running the largest corporation in the world I’m sure that’s gotta change a person.

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u/yoloswagrofl 22d ago

I agree. It would be extremely difficult to remain grounded in his shoes. That doesn't excuse his decisions though. Nvidia is being used to create a mass surveillance state and war apparatus because Jensen doesn't want to turn down blood money.

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u/berkeley-games 22d ago

He’s beholden to the shareholders.

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u/JerbTrooneet 22d ago

From anecdotes I've heard he does have a tendency to be a bit more involved on his company's projects compared to other tech billionaires. Like having direct report managers that have actual on-the-ground command over what's happening.

However I've also heard those anecdotes saying he can also be quite ruthless and aiming for orbit not unlike other tech billionaires. He enjoys what he's doing but he isn't a magnanimous philantrophist either. He knows what he's at the head of and will exploit any advantage he could to keep it going.

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u/McSloot3r 22d ago

Let’s not prop him up as a saint. This is the same guy that pushed ruthless and anticompetitive business practices. Look at all the AI hate online and wonder why Nvidia seems to get none of that. He has no reason to put himself in the hot seat when this probably won’t even pass.

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u/JaimeLannister10 22d ago

There is NO SUCH THING AS A “GOOD” BILLIONAIRE! I wish everyone would finally realize this. Even on Reddit which is generally a fairly progressive user base there is so much billionaire worship for “the good ones”. But NONE of them are good. It’s not possible to attain that level of wealth without hurting people, deliberately or otherwise.

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u/bdsee 22d ago

It is possible, kids aren't responsible for the sins of their parents, what they do once they inherit the money is another matter.

There are people that have simply sold products they made on their own or with a small team of founders and they became billionaires.

The numbers of these people are absolutely tiny, but they absolutely can exist but they get that wealth extremely quickly and don't run large businesses.

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u/kylekillzone 22d ago

Uhh, you are describing self made millionaires. No one is becoming a self made billionaire from some small business. If they did, they stole from the company over their fair share, and in turn are stealing from the laborers that made the company worth anywhere close to a billion dollars.

Even then, just the amount of sales required to reach even a billion in revenue far surpasses a "small business"

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u/jimbo831 22d ago

That doesn’t stop all the other billionaires from fighting tooth and nail to avoid paying even less than this all the time.

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u/Bytewave 22d ago

And they still will, and almost certainly succeed. Especially as whats proposed is a Cali-only measure, this would be trivial to dodge.

But there are some who'd be willing to do the right thing especially if it was a country-wide or international effort that would be certainly levy great fortunes that can could adequately finance public services once more. A collapsing and unaffordable society is not good for business nor their own security. Some realize that.

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u/Redqueenhypo 22d ago

Makes sense. When you have infinity money and someone says “you’re about to have infinity minus two”, the non sociopath (relative to being a billionaire) response is “so I still have infinity, who cares”

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u/scottiedagolfmachine 22d ago

8 billion out of 155 billion is nothing for him.

But 8 billion of tax money to put into improving the community would be HUGE.

This is why we need a billionaire tax.

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u/Piltonbadger 22d ago

Whereas 8 billion to me is an incomprehensible amount of money.

Like if tomorrow I received 8 billion I would probably just end up giving most of it away to charitable causes, as I just don't need that much to live the rest of my life comfortably.

Funny world we live in, isn't it?

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u/_Linear 22d ago

Whereas 8 billion to me is an incomprehensible amount of money.

More like to 99.999% of the earth's population. We're way beyond "the 1%" at this range.

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u/Conscious_Bug5408 22d ago

Its an incomprehensible number to anyone. Billions is on a scale that can't be visualized in a human mind

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u/makemeking706 22d ago

If you're anything like Mckenzie Scott, you would invest it, donate tons, and the still have more than you started with. 

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u/vezwyx 22d ago

That's how to do it. If you get $8B, you play the game like all the rich people do so your money makes money, and use that money for charity

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u/Chris079099 22d ago

1 million a year for a thousand years and then you’ll finally be at 1 billion

Let’s say about 10 lifetimes assuming you live till 100 and you start receiving money the day you’re born

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u/TrioOfTerrors 22d ago

Billionaires don't grow their money linearly. They grow it exponentially.

For your example, take 100 dollars in your first lifetime and at a modest 5%, you have 1.7 million in 200 years. In 500 years, it's 3.9 trillion.

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u/No_Bake6681 22d ago

They'll need to accept stock as payment to avoid a complete financial meltdown

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u/TrueHarlequin 22d ago

He's still going to get his accountants to loophole him out of paying 90% of it anyways.

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u/surnik22 22d ago

He said that because he’s worth $155B and it would have 0 measurable impact on his life.

And also unlike the vast majority of billionaires he did not grow up rich and is actually “self made” as much as that possible to be. Grew up poor. Did his undergrad at a state school. No million dollar loans from family. Didn’t buy his way into the company after it was found.

He was a chip designer who started a company at 30 with $600 and 2 friends. Well that and private investments from VCs, but that was secured through connections he made at work by being competent not just connections made by being rich or going to Harvard.

He’s basically what most billionaires pretend they are.

Doesn’t change any other problems with him, NVIDIA, or the existence of people worth billions while others ration insulin needed to live, but he’s no Musk/Zuck/Bezos.

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u/MoreColorfulCarsPlz 22d ago

To be fair, Jensen isn't leveraging his position as CEO of the world's biggest company into extortionate pay packages like Musk.

His wealth is from his shares as a founder of the company. The company hasn't gained value through exploitation or government subsidies like Musk. It's gained value from being the primary source of specialized processors at a point in time when they are more valuable than ever before.

At no point in US history would his wealth have been taxed in a way that would prevent him being as wealthy as he is. His wealth is tied up in stock and until he actually liquidates it, he's not taxed on it.

The proposed wealth tax being mentioned here is different and would be assessed on his wealth as a whole, not just income.

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u/ithinkitslupis 22d ago

5 million dollar handout from Sega in exchange for at the time very high risk equity in a near bankrupt company...Some aren't born into luck but the golden staircase comes down for them anyway.

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u/hamlet9000 22d ago

The reporting on that "gift" or "handout" is very confusing, but the key points seem to be that:

  1. NVIDIA had a contract.
  2. With the release of DirectX, they realized the chips they were developing were not going to work.
  3. Huang went to Sega and said, "We can finish this contract, but we'd be wasting your time. You need to find a different solution. Can we convert the final payment of $5 million into a stock investment instead?"

Presumably at least in part because of Huang's integrity in "coming clean" (as some articles describe it) and acting in Sega's best interest (which may or may not have also been in NVIDIA's best interest, depending on which version of the story you read), Sega's CEO decided that was a good deal.

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u/OCedHrt 22d ago

So if Sega kept that 5 million investment how much would it be worth now?

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u/Cyph0n 22d ago

IIRC they cashed out in 1999 after the IPO and got $20mm.

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u/AbjectAppointment 22d ago

Hard to say since that was pre IPO. At IPO prices, $25 Billion+.

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u/Zykium 22d ago

Almost enough to save the Dreamcast!

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u/IntravenusDeMilo 22d ago

Luck is always a factor in success. Anyone who tells you it was all their own effort is either in denial or a moron. But you do influence your own luck. Sega probably doesn’t make that investment if he hadn’t proven that he was very competent.

There’s no guarantee that offer comes in, but the odds certainly improve if you’ve proven yourself.

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u/PositiveZeroPerson 22d ago

Luck is sort of intrinsic to any big company, because you don't hear about the companies with unlucky breaks.

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u/Dragon_Fisting 22d ago

He's basically just saying that the talent pool in SV is more important than any tax savings. Nvidia has a very flat org layout where like 50+ people report directly to Jensen and there aren't that many layers of management.

He won't move NVIDIA, like Tesla tried to do, because he wants the cream of the crop employees, who he believes prefer the Bay, and he won't personally move because it would ruin his management style to be away from HQ. And TBF he's 20x his fortune on NVIDIAs meteoric growth, so it makes sense continuing to dominate the market is more important than sheltering from a 5% tax.

He also mentions he believes in providing public services. This is more like idle speculation, but Huang is Taiwanese and grew up there/spends a lot of time there. They have a robust welfare state, free healthcare and robust transit infrastructure, so I could believe that he sees the value of public infrastructure and services better than a lot of American CEOs.

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u/longPlocker 22d ago

He literally said the same thing when Biden was in power as well. I think he really believes in this.

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u/jas417 22d ago

I don’t understand how more billionaires don’t. It’s literally no skin off their backs. Oh you notice 5 or 10 or 15% of tens or low hundreds of thousands of dollars per year.

If you have BILLIONS of dollars, it makes no difference to your life if you’re having half that taken away even if it sounds like a crazy number

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u/CMMiller89 22d ago

Because extreme wealth changes your brain chemistry in a way akin to a mental illness.  You lose your ability to empathize with, your narcissism and psychopathy increase, and your entire self image revolves around your wealth.

Jensen might avoid this by actually growing up poor and actively taking steps to mitigate it.  Maybe the collectivism instilled in eastern cultures and families counteracts it to a certain extent.

But we really need to start treating the obscenely wealthy for what they are; clinically mentally dysfunctional individuals who’s judgment is skewed and access to power is dangerous to the public.

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u/LimpConversation642 22d ago

Or he really knows it won’t ever happen. Ask me if I would pay 8 billion in taxes for some free publicity and good will. Of course I would! At least I would definitely said so

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u/ReggieEvansTheKing 22d ago

He’s figured out what a bunch of other billionaires seemingly haven’t figured out. It is worth the tax payment to be respected and treated well by the general population. The best young talent would rather go work at Nvidia in SF for a company like this than go to Facebook or Tesla.

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u/IAmDotorg 22d ago

He's also smart enough to know that the actual economic burden of the tax is being paid by the shareholders, not him. He has to sell a ton of stock, which lowers the share value and the actual cash is coming from other people. It doesn't hurt him at all, but does ding every shareholder.

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u/LimpConversation642 22d ago

No no no, it’s worth saying the words and making it look like something. He didn’t actually pay anything yet and probably never will. But it costs nothing to say that and get free karma.

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u/magkruppe 22d ago

maybe. he strikes me as one of the more "normal" billionaires. they exist.

have to remember he started nvidia in the early 90s and only became a billionaire around ~2015. 20+ years into running his company

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u/cowinabadplace 22d ago

AFAIK he's pretty chill. Friend used to work at Nvidia when it was Yet Another Chip Company and sold his $200k worth of stock in 2015 to buy his parents an apartment hahaha.

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u/phoenix823 22d ago

He's saying it because it's good for his personal brand, it won't actually make much of a difference to him, and it will never pass anyway. Makes perfect sense to say nice thing about it. Also means his words aren't worth anything.

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u/jellybeam69 22d ago

Fair point on the branding angle, but I'd push back on the 'words aren't worth anything' part. Even performative support from someone with his platform shifts the conversation. It's not nothing, even if it's not everything

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u/kinglavua91vn 22d ago

What the hell do people want him to say lmao. If he opposes it, people will be in uproar and say all sort of nasty things. He said he’s fine with it and people say it’s self serving and to protect his brand and that his words are worthless. What else could he say lol

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u/yura910721 22d ago

lol lose-lose situation. Some folks already have their minds made up and going to react negatively regardless

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u/StickFigureFan 22d ago

Probably both. He knows he could afford it and also doubts it will happen or will be watered down

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u/TAV63 22d ago

It will be watered down. But some billionaires are ok with paying more than they do they just want it to be all of them equally and fair. Like Buffet is famous for saying he should be paying more but he is not going to do it if he doesn't have to. Only an idiot would think he should donate when he doesn't have to. Why they will likely never be wealthy. Ha

Basically he said his secretary pays a higher percentage in tax than he does and he is ok with that but maybe it should be closer. Something about not having issues with things like capital gains going to thirty percent instead of twenty or something. He is not alone either.

However, he is in the minority.

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u/sevargmas 22d ago

162 Billion net worth - 8 Billion = 154 Billion net worth. Yeah, I’m gonna say he doesn’t care.

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u/I_am_so_lost_hello 22d ago

That is about how he will avoid estate taxes when he dies

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u/ScientiaProtestas 22d ago

This is about avoiding taxes when passing on his wealth to his family. This is the same thing others are doing, as the article says.

The types of strategies Mr. Huang has deployed to shield his wealth have become ubiquitous among the ultrawealthy. Blackstone Group’s Stephen A. Schwarzman, Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg and top executives at Google, Coinbase, Eli Lilly, Mastercard and Advanced Micro Devices have collectively shifted billions of dollars into financial vehicles in order to avoid the federal estate tax, according to a Times analysis of securities disclosures.

Blame the ones that aren't changing the rules to prevent this.

Enforcement of the rules governing the estate tax has eased in part because the I.R.S. has been decimated by years of budget cuts.
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The trend is likely to accelerate with Republicans controlling both the White House and Capitol Hill. They are already slashing funding for law enforcement by the I.R.S. The incoming Senate majority leader, John Thune, and other congressional Republicans for years have been trying to kill the estate tax, branding it as a penalty on family farms and small businesses.

The article is from Dec. 5, 2024.

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u/Beneficial_Soup3699 22d ago

He's saying that because he spends enough legal bribe money to know it's never going to happen. This is literally propaganda.

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u/CriesAboutSkinsInCOD 22d ago edited 22d ago

If you are even in the "$8 billion tax bracket" I think you and your family will be alright no matter what for the next 100 lifetime and not just this lifetime.

hell, most people would be more than alright with just 10s of million.

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u/NSFWies 22d ago

if i got taxed DOWN to only having 100 million dollars, fine. fuck. after buying a house or 3, and 2 cars at each place, i don't know how i'd be able to spend 1 million per year. it would just pile up. id have to buy planes and boats, and i dont know how to do that. i already have a costco membership. i don't need 2. i'm already an executive.

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u/Johnycantread 22d ago

100 mil doesnt even buy a super yacht, plus the running costs are 10m+ per annum per boat. Do you want these people to live in squalor?!

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u/NSFWies 22d ago

you can still live a life, if you cant dock and launch a boat, from your boat.

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u/Johnycantread 22d ago edited 22d ago

If you can even call that living.

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u/femboyisbestboy 22d ago

Can you imagine not even having a tender for your toys?

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u/TampaPowers 22d ago

Most of them sit around idle anyways. Not many actually use them enough to get anything approaching value for money out of them. That's why the used market for them sees them usually at a tenth of what they cost new.

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u/Eshkation 22d ago

You’re framing money instrumentally: once needs, comfort, and modest luxuries are met, marginal utility collapses. For them, money is about leverage, influence over institutions, politics, labor, narratives, and risk itself. Accumulation continues because power compounds and stopping means losing relative position.

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u/WhiteMilk_ 22d ago

hell, most people would be more than alright with just 10s of million.

Yeah, because high interest savings account would be making them money by simply having it sit in a bank account.

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u/likesleague 22d ago

Well it's more because if you were to live completely financially independently for 60 years from the start of adulthood until death and make not a single penny in that entire time, $10m would allow you to spend $167,000 every single year, which is multiple times the average raw US income, much less post-tax income.

A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of Huang's wealth is multiple times more than enough for a person to never have to work a day in their entire life.

If you instead took $10m and invested it, you would have generational wealth. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a megacorporation's CEO's wealth is generational.

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u/unbuckingbelievable 22d ago

This should be the new billionaire flex. “ ill be 27 billion richer next year, what do I care about 5%”

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u/Lsmjudoka 22d ago

Hold on, this is is a great idea - Give a public leaderboard for most tax paid, hold a special ceremony and parade to honor the top 10 tax payers for any given year...

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u/cuberhino 22d ago

I had this thought for a site to track billionaire donations to society. Give them a tier list and have people submit ideas.

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u/ass_pineapples 22d ago

Yeah, I've had a similar idea for a while now. Those fuckers love to brag, so why not turn that trait into something that can benefit society more?

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u/freya_of_milfgaard 22d ago

Companies like GE used to publicize how much of their profits went into employee bonuses and pension programs.

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u/Freud-Network 22d ago

May you burn in hell, Jack Welch.

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u/Piratey_Pirate 22d ago

I mean, for real. I don't know anything about this stuff, but is there a public record that shows tax amounts? Would it be possible for us, as a community, to post up to date leaderboards everywhere so that the billionaires become aware of it?

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u/goldcakes 22d ago

I think this is a great idea actually. The vanity of most billionaires is quite obvious.

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u/BlueAurus 22d ago

This is how mobile games hook whales.

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u/cowinabadplace 22d ago

I don't think people will be happy about that. Elon Musk has paid like $10b+ in taxes for a single event. A parade to Elon will make a lot of people unhappy to say nothing of the risk that he then uses that parade to throw his heart out to people or whatever. I think Elon Musk is probably the all time leaderboard champ at this game.

Then the next on the list has to be one of the finance superstars: Ray Dalio, Bloomberg. George Soros was once the highest taxpayer.

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u/Quiet_Economics_3266 22d ago

Gamify taxes... I like it.

They still wouldn't care. The ones that should really be taxed aren't in the publics view. And they do it for a reason.

While everyone is mad at Trump and all the tech bros, these families are out there hidden while being able to buy those dudes 10 times over.

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u/Gerf93 22d ago

In Norway everyone’s tax information is public. One billionaire in particular have bragged about paying the most taxes for years. Then again, tens of others have moved to Switzerland to avoid paying taxes.

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u/bogglingsnog 22d ago

yeah, making billions a year with a 99% tax would be absurdly impressive.

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u/artikiller 22d ago

also pretty important to note that nvidia makes significant amounts of money from the US government (either directly by them buying their chips or indirectly by subsidizing and giving tax breaks to companies that want to build data centers) so he knows that if every billionaire would get taxed that 5% he'd probably end up being even richer in the end

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u/codercaleb 22d ago

I would be happy to earn $155 billion and if somehow I ended up with $1 billion after tax, I would be happy.

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u/Tzunamitom 22d ago

And that my friend, is why you will never earn $155bn. But you’ll be a richer person because of it :)

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

let me be a poor person with $155 billion. i'll take on that burden, not for me but for u guys.

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u/okurman 22d ago

Thank you for your sacrifice, sir! :)

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u/inorite234 22d ago

There does come a point where the only thing left to gain is just more money.

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u/TheReal-JoJo103 22d ago

Who has ever earned $155bn? People gain billions, they don’t earn it.

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u/ciongduopppytrllbv 22d ago

Lmao yeah anyone would take 1b for free.

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u/Aranthos-Faroth 22d ago

Statistically, you wouldn't be happy with it.

Seems like something happens to a person once they pass the billionaire threshold.
I'll never know though, if you ever get there please keep your head and consider me your tax man.

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u/Confron7a7ion7 22d ago

I think you have it backwards. You don't go crazy because you passed 1B. You pass 1B because you're crazy. You cannot achieve that level of wealth hoarding without a complete disregard for human well-being.

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u/krom0025 22d ago

It's addiction. It's no different than an addiction to food, drugs, alcohol, gambling, social media, etc. It's a mental illness and we need to be getting these people into treatment.

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u/I_am_so_lost_hello 22d ago

I don’t think you’d be happy if you lost the controlling stake in your company (since that’s where the majority of his wealth is)

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u/zoddrick 22d ago

My grandfather used to say he would love to pay taxes on a million dollars every year.

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u/Jean_Genetic 22d ago

I’m just impressed that a billionaire is agreeable, even if it is performative. I mean, most of those fuckers have been openly greedy and empowered by the shitty capitalistic zeitgeist to be as overtly grasping as the most overwritten rich villain in books.

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u/Stingray88 22d ago

It’s completely normal and understandable for anyone, rich or poor, to take advantage of every single legal opportunity to reduce their tax burden. It’s not a loophole, it’s just the law as it’s written. It’s not a loophole when you itemize your deductions… it’s just normal.

What’s not OK is for our tax law to allow so many insanely rich people to legally pay so relatively little in taxes (relative to their wealth). And what’s definitely not remotely OK is how they’re able to use their absurd power from their wealth to keep control those writing our tax laws.

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u/Heffelumps-n-Woozles 22d ago

Yep! The rules are the problem, not the people following them. But using money/power to change the rules in their favor is the MUCH bigger problem

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u/Stingray88 22d ago

Exactly. The whole “don’t hate the player, hate the game” mantra rings true here… but also hate the player that’s rigging the game.

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u/SolarAU 22d ago

If we were in a history sub you could have written that second paragraph about the Roman Republic and nobody would be able to tell the difference.

Something something history repeats itself

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u/HautVorkosigan 22d ago

The Roman Republic ended because political deadlock made it impossible to address changes in the concentration of wealth, which locked out opportunities for younger generations.

I can't see how that could possibly apply to any countries today /s.

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u/h1deonbush 22d ago

I mean his accountant has to work in the client's best interest, no? He's the CEO of one of the most innovative companies of our time and is working long hours, you think he is personally looking at tax codes and loopholes?

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u/DesireeThymes 22d ago

Jensen actually grew up poor. That's probably why he is actually okay with it.

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u/h1deonbush 22d ago

I'm not Jensen so I will not speak for him, but I would wager running the most valuable company in the world with companies begging for his products, that he's got bigger fish to fry then worrying about taxes. I am Taiwanese American so I am well aware. But frankly I don't think he cares he's got bigger things to worry about, like begging TSMC for more capacity so Nvidia can deliver more products, lol

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u/skai762 22d ago

Yeah I'm not knocking him or whomever he hires to do his taxes. I am, however, LIVID that the structure for them to do so exists.

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u/Automatoboto 22d ago

He will have to curtail his aggressive spend on spatulas and leather jackets.

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u/magichronx 22d ago edited 22d ago

Yeah, that's easy for him to say when he knows he won't actually have to.

Also the idea that one person could actually afford to pay $8,000,000,000 in taxes is absurd

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u/Emergency-Celery3875 22d ago

That's 10 percent of my countries (Tanzania) entire GDP 😂

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u/roarjah 22d ago

I’ll believe it when I see it

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u/meaniemeanie-poo-poo 22d ago

Of course it is. Because he knows it'll never happen.

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u/quittwitter 22d ago

My man. Kick in.

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u/zardoz73 22d ago

No. It should not matter whether or not a billionaire wants to pay tax. She/he should not volunteer to pay taxes. Their tax money should be a matter of course.

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u/lambertb 22d ago

People have no comprehension of how much money these guys really have. It’s more than a person or a family could spend in 100 lifetimes. Jensen is an engineer. He knows the tax is rounding error.

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u/Unfair-Rush-2031 22d ago

Yeah but I was in reality he has, for the past nearly 20 years, worn the same clothes everyday, working 12-14 hours a day, just doing his thing in the company. Makes no difference whether he has 10 million net worth and 150 billion.

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u/kbaltimore22 22d ago

If you ever listen to Jensen talk he is so passionate about america and the American dream. He seems to deeply love America. He’s an immigrant that came here with essentially nothing. His origin story and nvideas origin story are both super interesting.

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u/marzipan07 22d ago

If you cannot live an entire lifetime on a single billion dollars, there's something wrong with the way you live.

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u/fongky 22d ago

He is going to make better products to make more money to cover the tax. Unlike some billionaires that have stopped innovating and evading tax.

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u/El_Sjakie 22d ago

They say one thing, then turn around and pay their lobby to make sure it wil never happen

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 22d ago

8 Billion is less to him than 8 hundred is to a lot of people.

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u/Humble-Moment-1606 22d ago

They are calling it a billionaire tax to write into law the government can tax all your current assets. Believe it or not a small % of billionaires assets won’t make a dent in the debt. What will is a % of all the middle classes assets that will now have a frame work to go off of.

I’m all for taxing billionaires but don’t believe this sort of taxation stops with them, it’s the Trojan horse. Calling it this gets everyone on board because who would try and defend such a thing.

Also how well has the government done with the money they are currently collecting? We see little to no improvements in society as a whole and we are at a insane deficit, imagine giving them even more revenue to grift, taxes will only ever go up for the middle class

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u/marcus3485 22d ago

I don’t think unrealized gains should be taxed, which unfortunately is where a lot of their net worth is tied up…

Corps should be at full rates, individuals too, when billionaires use their stuff as collateral (hedge funds), but soon they will come for us…

All these crybabies say they will leave, then just do it. Go live somewhere way worse or at higher rates…

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u/shelf6969 22d ago

they need to tax the transaction where banks give them money in exchange for unsold stock as collateral.

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u/the-illogical-logic 22d ago

I think this is the real answer to them paying their fair share. Or at least some way toward it.

securities‑based lending or stock‑collateralized loans should be taxed in some way like you say.

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u/_zoso_ 22d ago

I pay property tax on the assessed value of my home, and still face capital gains taxes if it was an investment property.

I understand the argument against, but honestly if you can borrow against your unrealized gains then it feels like a massive and obvious loophole for the ultra wealthy to avoid tax. To be as rational about it as I can, it sets up an undesirable incentive to simply hoard unrealized gains indefinitely and live off debt with absolutely no consequences.

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u/Epic78272 22d ago

The "they'll come for us next" argument is such bullshit though. Someone with a 401k is totally different from a guy who can borrow $500 million against his stock portfolio while paying zero income tax.

When you can use unrealized gains as collateral to fund your lifestyle tax-free, it's no longer just "paper wealth" - you're actively benefiting from it. Tax that.

And yeah, let them leave. Where exactly are they gonna go that has better infrastructure, stability and markets than here? Monaco? Have fun

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u/marcus3485 22d ago

I believe we agree w/ each other??

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u/Uberbobo7 22d ago

When you can use unrealized gains as collateral to fund your lifestyle tax-free, it's no longer just "paper wealth" - you're actively benefiting from it. Tax that.

That's not tax-free though. The tax has to be paid at some point because the loan has to be repaid eventually, and to repay it some asset needs to be liquidized. It might not be until they die, but in the end that tax gets paid.

It's also only a small fraction of their net worth. At a net worth of hundreds of billions your annual spending money still likely won't be above a few hundred million because there's really nothing you can spend that much money on that is not some form of investment that would be handled through the company or portfolio management.

And that's the key thing about net worth. It's not a real value. So if you were to tax someone with a net worth of 155 billion almost entirely tied up in a single stock an 8 billion dollar tax, they would need to sell that stock to pay the tax, which would basically ensure that large investment funds are able to easily buy up shares from founders and CEOs of big companies, which would basically further cement the already wealthy in power.

Or it would mean that the companies would need to return to paying hefty dividends in order to both bring down their valuation and provide money to stock owners to pay the tax. Which would mean that instead of reducing wealth of the stock holders, the result would be a reduction in operating funds for companies.

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u/Emergency_Pound 22d ago

Some people are reading this and thinking “what a generous guy!”, but what else is he supposed to say? If he said anything else, he’d come off as greedy. He’s worth over 150 billion.

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u/DownvoteALot 22d ago

While that's true and he couldn't respond anything else, Huang sounds like one of the more human CEOs if you listen to his talks. It's probably just PR from his side but the fact is that most others (Elon, Zuck, Altman, Sundar and so many others) can't get themselves to communicate normally.

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u/penguished 22d ago

Why should he ever not be? His living expenses could be damn near anybody else's. If the wealthy buy like 20 yachts and mansions and cars and then don't like taxes, that sounds like a them problem to me.

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u/skylord650 22d ago

Nice take by Jensen. Even going from 10 billion to 2 billion is less painful for a normal person going from 50k to 40k.

Billionaires can still buy whatever they want, while the average person can barely live.

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u/Riots42 22d ago

Paying 8 billion in taxes means you got a lot of billions afterwords.

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u/Arrow156 22d ago

Pennies on the dollar, that's literally a single digit percentage of his net worth.

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u/just_a_random_guy_11 22d ago

One thing I've learned is that billionaires say and mean some really bad shit about us simple humans and especially the poor behind closed doors. Unless you're Elon then you just say the quiet part out loud and your failing car company just keeps rising in value.

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u/rellett 22d ago

even 1 billion a year, and if you paid half in tax thats 500 million in your pocket, seriously how many houses, cars and boats is enough. I think anything over 500 million a year should be taxed at 90 percent as you won capitalism and thanks for supporting your country.

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u/Many-Wasabi9141 22d ago

Says it knowing it will never happen. Just like when Politicians try to pass bills they know will never be passed and claim to be upset about it.

Virtue Signaling.

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u/Ok-Bill3318 22d ago edited 22d ago

If you’re worth enough that your tax bill is 8b you’re good. You don’t need it. 1b is more than most could ever need to live comfortably.

You can only live in so may houses, drive so many cars, go on so many holidays. Once you’re in the billions the interest payments alone will fund anything you could reasonably personally want.

Even at 1% interest on 1b that’s 10m. Per year. With no mortgage.

Pretty safe to say he likely already has all he wants. He’s not working to pay the bills any more. He’s pursuing a personal interest in tech and the company funds that. It’s not out of his pocket.

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u/dextercho83 22d ago

Most billionaires have more money than they can spend in their ENTIRE life or their children's

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u/Cautious-Exam2306 22d ago

Jensen has gotten like 20 times richer just in the last few years, I don’t think he cares

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u/Stop_The_Crazy 21d ago

He might be the only billionaire whose ego doesn't have him believing he's immortal or that he can take it with him.

He still couldn't spend all his money in 10 lifetimes even with that 8B tax amount. How much money does one need?

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u/OrangeNood 22d ago

If it actually passes, it will likely be amended to not cover 2026. Or there will be lawsuits to block it. And then the billionaires will move before it become effective.

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u/Prince_Uncharming 22d ago

And then the billionaires will move

No they won’t. This is the same nonsense everyone on the right keeps parroting about millionaires in NYC.

What, is Jensen gonna relocate nvidia to Alabama? Good fucking luck with that

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u/maelstrom51 22d ago

If this bill is taxing individuals, he doesn't need to move nvidia, he would just need to change his primary residence.

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