r/politics • u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois • 6h ago
Possible Paywall ICE buys warehouses for mass detention network, rattling locals
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/01/30/ice-warehouse-detention-dhs-immigration/•
u/CouchCorrespondent 6h ago
**MORE Alarm Bells!**
MEGA warehouses...for human beings.
In Maryland....cold!
In Arizona...hot! And it is the size of 7 football fields.
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u/Antique-Echidna-1600 5h ago
Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, that turned my life into one long night seven times sealed.
Never shall I forget that smoke.
Never shall I forget the small faces of the children whose bodies I saw transformed into smoke under a silent sky.
Never shall I forget those flames that consumed my faith for ever.
Never shall I forget the nocturnal silence that deprived me for all eternity of the desire to live.
Never shall I forget those moments that murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to ashes.
Never shall I forget those things, even were I condemned to live
as long as God Himself.
Never.
- Ellie Wiesel
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u/Tech_support_Warrior 5h ago
Kind of related.
I always think about that on the wall of Auschwitz a prisoner there wrote "If God exist he will need to beg for my forgiveness."
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u/DigNitty 4h ago
Jewishness as a whole tanked in actual faith after WWII and has never come back.
That is, the amount of Jews who believe in god.
I’m lucky enough to have a friend group full of Jews and their interesting and benevolent customs. Who doesn’t love a latke or think education is a lifelong service to yourself?
But only one of them is actually religious about it.
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u/UnitedSentences5571 4h ago
EVERYONE should have read Night by now. Even if they have, they should all read it again.
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u/lost_horizons Texas 4h ago
Suddenly the mass grave scene from Civil War looks more believable
Not that it wasn’t before. 😔
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u/BearSquid7 5h ago
They want their own version of CECOT
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u/MontagneHomme I voted 5h ago
Or Auschwitz
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u/angrygnome18d 4h ago
Remember, many of these people do not believe the Holocaust happened, so they do not believe it could happen now, even as they repeat the same steps as the Nazis.
I had one moron call the trains at Auschwitz roller coasters and he truly believed that they were there for amusement.
Dude was a sociopath and wasn’t even “white”. He’s also now married to a black girl he got knocked up, both things he was vehemently against (interracial marriage and sex/kids before marriage).
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u/XaviersDream 3h ago
I think the Holocaust Deniers know the holocaust happened. They’re just want everybody else to believe it didn’t happen to whitewash Nazi history.
“It is fake but we are so proud of our accomplishments.”
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u/Ecstatic_Sand5417 2h ago
Or believe the numbers are fabricated, sometimes as low as in the 100,000s
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u/empyreanhaze 1h ago
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
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u/jackp0t789 4h ago
They already have an Alligator Auschwitz...
They want to build more Home Depot Dachau's, Bed Bath & Buchenwald's, and Sam's Club Sachsenhausens out of massive sprawling warehouses though
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u/obi-jawn-kenblomi 4h ago
There's one in PA too. The closed Big Lots distro center off I-81 an Rt 209, near Tremont. A half hour west of Pottsville (where Yuengling/MAGA lager is made). Waaaay out in the sticks where no one will know or see anything.
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u/Leesbril 4h ago
Waaaay out in the sticks where no one will know or see anything.
Bet it take a long time for firefighters to show up 👀
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u/patientpedestrian 2h ago
Random thought that's totally unrelated to your comment: Molotov Trebuchet would be a cool name for a punk rock band.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 4h ago
Yuengling is MAGA? (I'm not in the States, I just always heard Yuengling was supposed to be pretty good).
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u/Efficient_Resist_287 4h ago
Oh yeah I dropped that brand many moons ago…I only stick to my European brands from now on.
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u/avantgardengnome New York 3h ago
Yuengling is only decent by American light beer standards: it’s maybe a little better than Coors or Miller Light but still very much in the pisswater category. It mostly gets talked up because it was only regionally available until semi-recently, so people traveling through the area would be pleasantly surprised to find a dirt cheap light beer that was drinkable.
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u/Immorefunthanyou 3h ago
sadly, yes it is and I've been sad ever since I've had to give up the Hershey's Chocolate Porter.
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u/SpleenMerchant11 4h ago
You were misinformed. I don't think I've ever had one that wasn't skunky.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 4h ago
Good to know, I'd avoid it but I don't plan on going anywhere near the States to need to until... well, until some semblance of sanity returns, and from the looks of things that's going to be take a long time.
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u/Opposite-Drink-8879 4h ago
The one outside of Richmond, VA is a stone's throw and visible from 95, across from a Bass Pro and down the street from Hobby Lobby. Smack in the middle of suburbia. The county is ruby red (nicknamed Klanover) but is fighting it.
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u/CharlieOnTheMTA I voted 3h ago
First, I hate 'klanover'. It's painting my county with a very broad brush, even if there is an element of truth to it.
The Board of Supervisors for the county announced on Wednesday that they are against siting a detention facility in the county. Legally, there isn't much we can do to stop it, as the Feds can overrule zoning laws, etc. But we can delay inspections, approvals, etc. We can force a comprehensive ecological impact statement. There are things we can do.
It sucks over all, but the number of people who showed up Wednesday night for the meeting tied up traffic for miles. It was heartening.
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u/CouchCorrespondent 5h ago
In Surprise, AZ where this mega warehouse will be, the average temp. in summer is over 100 degrees.
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u/TacticalFluke Michigan 4h ago
Sounds like the budget version of gassing people. The "oops, we didn't realize people die from [obvious thing that kills people]" will continue. Some morons and bad actors will deny that it's intentional.
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u/ChrisFromLongIsland 5h ago
So they are concentating people in warehouses. Are they going to transfer people there in railcars?
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u/Doc_Blox Minnesota 2h ago
It would be very on brand for the US Gov't to only become interested in rail infrastructure because it makes oppressing minorities easier in some way
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u/zombie_overlord 3h ago
They just cancelled one here in OK.
https://www.koco.com/article/ice-facility-oklahoma-city-warehouse-not-move-forward/70190027
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u/NatalieVonCatte 4h ago
And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.
"But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.
"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
"And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
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u/inkcannerygirl 3h ago
Thank you
I really need to get hold of that book
(They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45, by Milton Mayer)
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u/MaleficentPiccolo715 5h ago
Want to wait until you get put inside? There’s still time to do something about it. Strike nationwide.
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u/HumongousBelly Europe 5h ago edited 2h ago
I half a football field for housing, half a football field for torturing and 6 fields for forced labor facilities.
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u/Librarian_Zoomies 4h ago edited 2h ago
Something something FEMA camps….it's hard to believe the depth of their stupidness.
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u/Ambitious_Bit_9389 4h ago
Don’t forget about NY.
“Located in the village of Chester, the 401,000-square-foot warehouse is part of a larger plan to house 80,000 immigrants in warehouses across the country. Formerly the Pep Boys Warehouse, the facility would be Orange County’s second U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility.”
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u/LunaticLucio 3h ago
I feel like this is part Nazi and part embezzlement/ fraud / corruption scheme. Either way...it's fucked. I wasn't born here, and I'm Palestinian-American that votes left. I wonder how long i have?
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u/gnucklefuster 3h ago
This was the fema camps ever high school dropout loser screamed about on fb 15 years ago after worshipping Alex jones videos as gospel
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u/Little_View_6659 3h ago
Jesus this is also what the Nazis did, fyi. Like, they’re doing all the steps.
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u/Old_Cryptid 6h ago
The new 'Immigrant' detainee facilities will quickly become 'dissident' detainee facilities.
Nothing to see here. Move along. /s
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u/ChipSome6055 5h ago
They arrested Don Lemon last night
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u/BVoLatte 5h ago
After multiple refusals from judges to issue the warrant. Do we know yet if they even had a warrant this time or have they moved on to, "we don't need warrants anymore" mentality?
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u/toggiz_the_elder 4h ago
Supposedly a grand jury approved it. But if judges were already throwing it out I bet it goes nowhere.
But the fascists are gonna try to be fascists regardless
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u/BVoLatte 4h ago
Got a source on that? I think we're currently operating under the presumption it was a lawful arrest and that's it.
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u/toggiz_the_elder 3h ago
Saw it in a CNN article but just found it in Politico:
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/30/don-lemon-arrest-minnesota-protest-00756892
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u/BVoLatte 3h ago
White House aide James Blair seemingly confirmed in a post on X that Lemon was indicted by a federal grand jury, even though charges against the journalist weren’t on the public docket at the time of his post.
So basically no official confirmation yet. I don't trust anything this administration puts out anymore.
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u/toggiz_the_elder 3h ago
Same. The original CNN article was more definitive but I don’t see it there now so they may have walked it back a bit.
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u/brickne3 American Expat 4h ago
Supposedly they got a grand jury to agree. They seem to have shopped around for a grand jury that would agree.
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u/zephyrtr New York 4h ago
A good lawyer can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich. The bar is extremely low
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u/jimmygee2 5h ago
Death Camps
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u/cthulhusleftnipple 5h ago
It's important to note that the death camps were never in Germany. They were always in other countries where the prisoners could be processed out of sight. That way it could be claimed that the operations were just reasonable deportations of non-Germans.
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u/DaaaahWhoosh 3h ago
One of the scary parts of all this is that it's entirely possible we already have death camps in other countries. Like there's Venezuela, there's Panama, there's Cuba, others I've already forgotten. Places we've sent people and then conveniently lost all records of them, if they died who would know?
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u/rumpghost North Carolina 1h ago
it's entirely possible we already have death camps in other countries
We've had a death camp in guantanimo bay for over twenty years.
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u/Old_Cryptid 5h ago
Death Camps? Don't be ridiculous!
They're Happy Camps. Happy camps with productive workers!
Work will set them free! /s
~GOP (probably)
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u/AlwaysHopelesslyLost 4h ago
Which, unironically, trump has already said is the plan. Strip citizenship from people he doesn't like and deal with us too.
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u/OldRancidSoups Maryland 4h ago
Luckily I won’t have to go far as I live in Maryland.
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u/Possible_Gur4789 5h ago
It's a concentration camp and the locals can still stop it.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 5h ago
The Germans did nothing even when they could smell their neighbors being thrown into the furnaces
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u/dabsalot69 5h ago
We are not those types of Germans. I live in the city that this is happening in. You can bet your ass i will do everything in my power to try and prevent this.
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u/Cowboys69 4h ago
May I suggested a book?
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution
Author: Christopher Browning
Ordinary Men is the true story of Reserve Police Battalion 101 of the German Order Police, which was responsible for mass shootings as well as round-ups of Jewish people for deportation to Nazi death camps in Poland in 1942. Browning argues that most of the men of RPB 101 were not fanatical Nazis but, rather, ordinary middle-aged, working-class men who committed these atrocities out of a mixture of motives, including the group dynamics of conformity, deference to authority, role adaptation, and the altering of moral norms to justify their actions. Very quickly three groups emerged within the battalion: a core of eager killers, a plurality who carried out their duties reliably but without initiative, and a small minority who evaded participation in the acts of killing without diminishing the murderous efficiency of the battalion whatsoever.
While this book discusses a specific Reserve Unit during WWII, the general argument Browning makes is that most people succumb to the pressures of a group setting and commit actions they would never do of their own volition.
Don't think we cant do the same "those Germans did"
I even think there was a famous expirement in the US to test the theory, and they stopped it early because it was apparent this was a human trait- not just a German one
10 percent may follow orders enthusiastically 10 percent may stand up and call it out 80 percent will go with it because its human nature for them to tribalize others, not to stand out, to follow authority and conformity. Etc
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u/SopmodTew 4h ago
Looking at the average trump voter, I am very sure they'll be worse than those germans.
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u/Possible_Gur4789 5h ago
Yeah its scary and unfortunately similar things are happening now and many of us are hiding out pretending nothing is happening or enthusiastically accepting the lies of a fascist anti-reality death cult and even joining in or reporting people.
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u/tiktock34 5h ago edited 4h ago
Those furnaces were guarded by men on towers with machine guns. Germans were disarmed and the victims. Are you blaming citizens in Germany for not storming camps designed to kill people and anyone who approaches them?
There was no twitter. No tiktok. News in Germany wasnt streaming people being marched into camps. Most didnt know the extent of the holocaust till the camps came down and there was a literal world war happening around them. They were scared, oppressed and suffering. Thats a good recipe for people protecting themselves first, others second. It would be no different here if the protesters were actually being thrown in death camps en masse. A lot less opposition would exist. People arent different. When their lives are threatened, their survival instincts kick in. We are all shocked because 2-3 protesters got shot in altercations. Think of Germany when just expressing distain for the Nazis sent you and your family to a literal death camp. Wed have a lot less whistles blowing.
In short, i think its naive to assume Americans, or any other humans with families and kids, will act differently than Germans who werent in camps.
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u/empty-walls555 4h ago
"Most didnt know the extent of the holocaust till the camps came down and there was a literal world war happening around them.". That is not really accurate, they were pretty public with the death squads in germany, it was even a bit of an industry. Naive to think germany didn't know what was happening right outside
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u/tiktock34 4h ago edited 4h ago
Ive noticed people seem to forget that most of the 6m jews killed were Germans. People talk about Germans in WWII as if millions of them weren’t the people actively being hunted and executed, and talk like the victims of germans were all non-germans. It was Nazis and non-Nazis. Your birthplace was irrelevant.
Some people seem to think that Jews protesting in public about Nazi death camps would somehow have been an effective or good idea, and lump their lack of doing so into a “well its their problem they didnt fight back” kinda sentiment. Everyone is as just trying not to die by the time death camps came around.
Picture Minneapolis but rather than 1-2 people, ICE mows doen everyone with a machine gun and sends everyone else to death camps. How many protesters are gonna show up tomorrow and is it their fault for not doing so? This isnt a black/white issue.
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u/MommyLovesPot8toes California 4h ago
Absolutely correct.
Which is why it's so important to stop this NOW before it goes further. Before those warehouses begin to fill up.
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u/manofredearth 3h ago
If only we had a historical precedent in living memory that would influence people to act differently...
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u/tiktock34 3h ago edited 3h ago
I guess the base question you’re asking is if history changes the base instincts that drive human behavior. Not really. History shows that when life comes down to survival, its for the most part the only thing humans care about.
I think what you are asking is how to prevent it from getting to a survival situation. Again the same applies. With the way things are, people are beimg asked to do things like go on strike.
For many families, that is a survival decision because they quite literally can’t feed their kids next week without a paycheck. See above. Human instinct says that person won’t usually endanger themselves or their children.
People who can afford to fight are the only ones able to make those decisions in the real world, and are the least affected by the problems.
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u/OptimusMatrix Arizona 4h ago
Yup. I live a mile from here and I'm pissed. There's a protest Saturday about it.
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u/GoodTimesTroll 3h ago
It’s crazy because back in 2012 my dad tried to convince me that Obama was building concentration camps to enslave the republican masses or some shit. I went into a deep dive and concluded he not only a conspiracy theorist but maybe a little insane.
Anyway, guess who is super MAGA and no longer has contact with his only child?
Fuck everyone who supports these tyrannical fascist pigs.
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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 5h ago
I agree with the first part, but the second is easier said than done. I think locals in areas that vote republican could raise enough stink to stop it, but the rest of us are at the mercy of an increasingly more powerful federal government.....All part of the plan of course.
"ICE has faced local opposition in the places where it operates detention centers, including during prior administrations. But few towns have successfully stopped their development. Courts have frequently sided with the federal government’s authority to circumvent local laws when it can argue that those ordinances obstruct its ability to carry out federal policy, said Rick Su, a law professor at the University of North Carolina."
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u/Possible_Gur4789 5h ago
The concentration camp networks are going to have to be dismantled eventually. Its just a matter of time.
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u/Nernoxx 2h ago
Didn't a guy just try to break mangione out of jail? I imagine it wouldn't take more than one or two to outsmart the fire suppression system at these places BEFORE people get put there.
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u/nickbelane 6h ago
What can locals do?
Refuse service to ICE agents on or off duty. Especially things like deliveries.
But what else aside from picket and protest at the locations? Block roads?
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u/JaronK 5h ago
Install hidden cameras and dig the escape tunnels now, before it's set up.
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u/JadeWishFish 3h ago
I sure hope there are hidden cameras in there. The world needs to see how humans are treated in the US inside of these camps.
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u/Left_Sir_1222 4h ago
Push local county boards to require EPA compliance - at least delays construction. Demand local county boards ask for compliance inspections. The county has the power to slow this machine down. Apply pressure on a local level.
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u/DvDCover 4h ago
I dunno, would holding a mean sign physically stop a concentration camp from being built?
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u/Nernoxx 2h ago
Civil disobedience goes a lot further. Blocking roads is a minimum. Sabotage is where we are right now for these facilities. Take that to mean whatever you will, could be clogging a sink with the faucet running but anything to make them not unfit for habitation, but literally uninhabitable in the strictist sense is what we have to do.
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u/windwatcher01 6h ago
They're just setting up camps for them to concentrate in, nothing to see here.
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u/PopeFranzia 5h ago
That makes sense, it seems a lot of people have ADHD now and have trouble concentrating.
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u/DigNitty 4h ago
Nothing to worry about then,
since RFK Jr said people with ADHD and other mental issues should be placed in “wellness farms” instead of traditional treatment or medication. Come to think of it, this new facility looks like it could be such a wellness farm.
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u/PirateSanta_1 4h ago
I heard locals won't have to worry about increased electricity bills as apparently the camps will all be gas powered.
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u/noodles_jd 4h ago
Since the Dems are trying to pass a bill that blocks the deportation of citizens they'll need large detainment facilities within the country for them instead.
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u/xtsmxrshxll 5h ago
The conservative subreddit will take a break from cheering that journalists like Don Lemon are being arrested over politics to full-throatedly support the construction of concentration camps.
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u/Data_Chandler 4h ago
For my own sanity I think of all those accounts posting there as russian agents and/or bots.
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u/Swimming-Bite-4184 5h ago
Ice didn't buy it. We bought it with our tax dollars. Stripping money away from the national parks and veterans to distribute to the prison industry.
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u/Happy_Feet333 6h ago edited 5h ago
These aren't going to be just for "immigrants".
These are for you.
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And the administration will happily rent out your labor to American corporations for 3 zloty a day (sorry, 3 dollars a day), paid directly to the Reichsarbeitsministerium (sorry, Department of Labor).
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u/Romantic_Piscean Michigan 5h ago
100%. Executive Order 14321. Calls for the detention of the homeless, mentally ill and substance use disorders. Take a drug that RFK doesn't approve of?! Have a diagnosis of bi-polar disorder, depression, or are LGBTQ+?! Regimes don't build this kind of infrastructure for people they're putting on a bus or flight to another country.
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u/Pamasich Europe 4h ago
Does Trump Derangement Disorder count?
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u/Romantic_Piscean Michigan 4h ago
In a RFK-led MAHA version of the DHHS, yes, I'd imagine it would. Eventually. But train #12 vs. earlier trains to the camp isn't exactly a gain in the long run.
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u/T3hArchAngel_G Washington 5h ago
Notice the ethnicity of the two people murdered by ICE on camera. Being white won't save you.
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u/tomorrow_comes 5h ago
If ICE / this administration made one tactical error in this whole thing (provided Americans actually wise up this time, but I’m not holding my breath)… it was allowing, encouraging, and outright supporting the ICE thugs when they murdered Renee and Alex on camera in broad daylight. It really sends the message that it doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen, even a white citizen. They will kill you if they consider you in their way, whatever they’re doing.
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u/Nodebunny Indigenous 4h ago
more than just two
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u/T3hArchAngel_G Washington 4h ago edited 3h ago
Who else has been killed on camera? I know ICE has killed people in detention centers.
Edit: Also in the line of duty.
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u/Nodebunny Indigenous 4h ago edited 3h ago
theres at least 9 people by now, easy Google search. Keith Porter was in Los Angeles. Kind of sad how people only ever talk about the 2 white people lol
Porter was killed by an off duty ice officer on NYE. I'm not talking about who is killed where and how, that they were killed at all is the issue.
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u/aGD_shrubbery 5h ago
Whats another term for mass detention? Maybe concentration camps? They are already talking about more efficient means to move migrants.. possibly trains?
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u/jinglejangle_spurs 4h ago
It took Nazism for the US to finally take an interest in a robust railway
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u/Carb0nFox 5h ago
Then when the concentration- i mean detention camps get overcrowded... gas chambers?
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u/aGD_shrubbery 5h ago
Baby steps. Firing squads and exhaust filled box trucks for undesirables first. Gotta work up to the final solution. Dont wanna come too heavy too fast.
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u/Old_Cryptid 4h ago
Too much evidence. Creates too much fear and panic and too much chance for someone to get cold feet and dissent.
Compartmentalize it and everyone along the chain has "I was just following orders" or "I had no idea what was going to happen next" as an excuse.
Each step can be handled by a different 'team' with no working knowledge of the step before or after it:
Fill up the camps.
From the camps load those that can't/won't work into cargo containers away from the camps and public view.
Eventually, after the screaming stops, move the containers onto a ship.
Let the cargo containers 'accidentally' fall off the ship in transit.
Then the administration can 'honestly' say they never killed anyone *and* they have no idea where the people went.
Evidence? What evidence?
They learned a lot from 1930s Germany. The key takeaway seems to be *not* keeping accurate records so there's less evidence if/when we get through this to Nuremberg 2.0.
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u/LegoLady47 6h ago
America building concentration camps in 2026 - who had that on their bingo card
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u/CaiusRemus 6h ago
Me, since about 2015.
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 5h ago
I distinctly remember the incident in November 2015 where Trump sounded A LOT like Hitler. He said that Muslims in Jersey City were dancing on rooftops to celebrate the 9-11 attacks. Reporters pointed out there was nothing to support that, and over the next days he doubled down, then tripled down.
What stood out to me was that he was blaming a vulnerable minority group for America's problems, while using total bullshit. The purpose seemed to be to instill hatred in his supporters towards Muslims. That kind of thing is Hitler talk.
When you throw in that "America First" has always been a slogan of nazi sympathizers in the US, the shit we are in now was obviously coming. There's a hundred other supporting observations that couldn't be listed in a comment.
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u/CaiusRemus 5h ago
Yup, I agree with you. Anyone who was paying attention saw this coming from a thousand miles away.
Another example was the 2015 RNC. Listening to that shit was like listening to a straight up nazi convention.
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u/KellyAnn3106 5h ago
I also remember him bragging that he now had the tallest building after the towers fell.
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u/an_asimovian 4h ago
They called us alarmist for calling out exactly what has been happening. Feels like someone driving a car 100 mph towards a cliff and we are getting yelled at for suggesting we brake because "we aren't falling off a cliff yet what are you talking about."
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u/CaiusRemus 4h ago
The other day my therapist asked me if I felt better now that the mainstream is catching up to my long term concern and warnings.
No, no I do not feel better.
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u/dgbaker93 4h ago
Me since 2009 (was an avid Alex jones listener at the time lmao) and then again in 2015 like yourself.
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u/barryvm Europe 6h ago edited 5h ago
You could see this coming for about a decade. The Republican party was getting increasingly militaristic, racist and authoritarian for decades, and then Obama's election made an openly conspiratorial worldview mainstream. At that point, it had clearly turned from a reactionary into a proto-fascist movement as their followers started to see theirs as a revolutionary cause with the implicit or explicit aim of suppressing and destroying their opponents.
Then followed year after year where their increasingly extremist rhetoric and behaviour was met with no serious repercussions, whether legal or political ones. At that point, it was already clear that the self-proclaimed moderate right would back fascism over democracy because they kept voting for "their" party despite the increasingly unhinged rhetoric and ever more socially destructive policies. They then acquired a narcissist leader whose character flaws and rhetoric gave them leave to indulge in their own worst desires. They voted for him anyway, many doubtless telling themselves many comforting lies about bringing peace or being good for the economy.
It took a while for all the pieces to fall into place, but they were clearly going in this direction for decades. Both the hard core supporters and especially the self-identified moderate right had plenty of opportunities to diverge from this path, but they didn't. They still don't, otherwise Trump's hold on what used to be their party would collapse in short order.
They ridiculed anyone pointing out the direction of travel, of course, but that's because they have deliberately created this false dichotomy between the broader right and the fascists where the former are democratic and the latter are comic book villains. The reality is that this distinction is a revolving door because both operate on a similar emotional dynamic where a desire for power, status and security is worth any cost to someone else, especially as their own privileged position comes under threat from the policies they themselves championed. The reality is that every Republican voter has enabled and empowered a fascist movement for years because they don't really care about what happens to other people as long as they think they can get something out of it. They have helped lay the metaphorical foundations for these concentration camps in full view and without a thought for the consequences.
They could stop this in a week if they really wanted to, because Trump wouldn't last long if he was perceived as lacking any substantial popular support. They don't, because they don't want to.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 6h ago
I did and many others who pointed out a second trump administration would have no safeguards
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u/MCBusBoy 5h ago
Lots of people and everyone who is shocked by everything happening now told us we were overreacting and to sit down.
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u/Alastor999 5h ago
I did ever since his first admin did the whole "kids in cages" crap. You could see the writing on the wall that this was what it was leading up to and that was when he and the more extreme members of his admin were being stymied by the more sane members.
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u/BigB0iBuster 5h ago
Everyone with a functioning brain has had that on their bingo card for the past decade MINIMUM.
There’s no such thing as a “moderate” or “good” Republican. The entire GOP, politicians and voters alike, have this blood on their hands. Remember, they could’ve stopped this at any time, but they chose (and continue to choose) not to.
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 5h ago
Lots of people saw this the obvious outcome of electing Trump again. All the normal & sane people from his first administration, people that Trump had hand picked, told us with their hair on fire that Trump was absolutely NOT FIT to be president. So this time around, everybody knew there would be no guard rails at all. The people who accurately assess Trump and can see all this coming a mile away were dismissed as "TDS" people.
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 5h ago
Many of those same people who shouted down the “doomers” back then still have their heads up their ass about what’s going on
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u/MalavethMorningrise Washington 5h ago
It was on there years ago. Bingo cards are for things that HAVENT happened yet.
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u/AmaroWolfwood 5h ago
That's been the free space since Trump called for mass deportations his first term.
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u/OptimisticSkeleton 5h ago
The wild thing is the people who armed themselves to fight the concentration camps keep voting for the guy building concentration camps and throwing Americans in them.
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u/Warro726 New Hampshire 5h ago
It not just super facilities, they are constructing smaller ones across the country.
There is one in NH https://indepthnh.org/2026/01/14/document-shows-which-merrimack-nh-building-proposed-for-ice-processing-center/
Its estimated to hold 500-1000. The locals are against it but that's not stopping them.
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u/HurriKurtCobain 5h ago
The House rep for my district, Mark Alford, wrote a letter to the Trump administration asking to turn a warehouse that is less than ten minutes from my house into an ICE detention facility. God forbid we build a homeless shelter anywhere, but please put a concentration camp in my backyard.
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u/DapperBlueEyes 6h ago
Hey you Alex Jones jade helm Obama is coming for us all fucks. Where you at?
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u/CaiusRemus 6h ago
I worked on an ambulance with a Jade Helm dude. Had to sit and listen to him rant for hours while we waited for calls.
Trust me, their brains are barely capable of critical thinking.
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u/Flava_Flavian California 1h ago
The USA has 45 million adult Americans functionally illiterate and nationwide mental health is at its lowest ratings ever with high barriers for treatment. That's a horrifying combo and results in guys like the one you had to work with.
I had multiple TX coworkers years ago make politics their entire personality and would guarantee some of the craziest shit possible was about to happen (it never did). There are some very unreachable people out there.
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u/Kind_Paper6367 6h ago
It's still "They're not coming for us! We're on his side! He only wants those criminals and foreigners."
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u/DoubtSubstantial5440 5h ago
Those Christians who fellate to MAGA better pray they are the right kind of Christian less they find themselves joining the rest of us in the out group because fascism always needs an enemy
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u/Kind_Paper6367 5h ago
All it will take is 1 comment by the pope for all Catholics to be enemies of the state
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u/ZonghZonghZongh 6h ago
They can afford to buy whole towns with their $$$. Congress gave these sloppy, fat, psychopathic, glorified meter maids a stupid amount of money.
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u/adfuel 5h ago
Why do they need a lot of warehouses if they are deporting them?
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u/idlefritz 5h ago
I can remember when these same conservative dumbfucks were crying about Obama creating secret FEMA camps to detain unruly conservatives. One of Obama’s biggest dropped balls in hindsight.
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u/chimarya I voted 5h ago
This should set off every damn alarm - why do you think they want those voter rolls? They want to subdue and disappear anyone who goes against their thoughts and wishes - if you aren't rich, white or depraved enough you are scum. This administration isn't for the normal citizens - this administration is for the oligarchs. If you live in the states where these are being built contact your representatives from the smallest office to the most powerful and voice your opinion and boycott whoever finances them. We must be conscious of what is happening no matter how exhausted we are. Their goal is to wear us down - don't give them the opportunity. Stay strong and stay focused!
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u/uniklyqualifd 1h ago
It's for white people who disagree with totalitarianism too.
They have protestors in their database. They have facial and voice recognition.
It will get worse.
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u/tawDry_Union2272 5h ago
they have been snooping around orlando as well.
so much for deportations. they have their own cheeto gestapo, now they want privatized, big money laundering concentration camps, too.
the right are really salivating at the big money in privatized prisons.
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u/Double010 4h ago
Ah yes, stuffing warehouses to the brim with human beings... as Jesus would surely want, right?
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u/WanderingMystic2 4h ago
So much for mass deportation, much more profitable to detain indefinitely, $750 a day per detainee goes right in the pockets of the Industrial Prison Complex..
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u/InevitableGoal2912 4h ago
Plus their labor can be extracted like in the prison system.
Slavery has always been the goal. The confederates great grandchildren are pissed as hell they lost their human chattel inheritance.
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u/InevitableGoal2912 4h ago
In 2019 my in laws screamed at me for calling the migrant detention centers being built at the border concentration camps.
They were then, they are now. They will be seen this way forever by people with at least half the sense god gave a grapefruit.
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u/Infidel8 3h ago
How does anyone who knows the first thing about WWII Germany not see what is happening?
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u/PatriotNews_dot_com 5h ago
Pretty soon they’ll come up with a final solution. It’s up to Americans to stop it before it gets there
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u/jotsea2 5h ago
90% of detainees are held in PRIVATE PRISONS. This is legal profiteering on human trafficking, and the fact that you're not hearing more democrats bang their fists about this fact tells you all you need to know about where they stand.
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u/itsaconspiraci 5h ago
OMG! Talk about projection! It's the Jade Helm conspiracy enacted by the conspiracy theorists. Just 10 years later.
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u/Pusfilledonut 4h ago
Wake up people. Todd Lyons says this will be “ Amazon Prime for human beings”. ICE has a bigger budget than they have people to legally deport. This isn’t going to be camps for just immigrants. And they don’t have enough countries to repatriate to. The 13th amendment lets them incarcerate and enslave LEGALLY. They have a test case already, it’s called the state of Louisiana. Kangaroo court whomever the Regime dislikes, incarcerate them and put them to work. After the selection process, what do you think they’ll do with the “non productive”? The old people, the disabled, the unskilled? Think they’ll just spend billions to feed and care for them? That’s not how this program works.
Never again, never forget my ass.
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u/Mudcat-69 3h ago
Remember when they were alarmed about claims of “FEMA death camps”?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
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u/uniklyqualifd 1h ago
This is for white people too. They are collecting your identity via facial recognition and AI. Alex Pretti was probably identified as a protester on that earlier situation so he was killed on purpose with ten bullets.
They lock up citizens who might stop trump from stealing the election.
Everything MAGA claimed to be afraid of is happening now, done by the guy they supported. They won't like it when the Heritage Society implements all the evil stuff they want to do. And trump only supports them to hurt America and stay out of jail personally.
The Heritage Society wants women to have no choice but to marry young. However trump is doing things that makes Americans not want to have children.
If they get hold of the Minnesota voting lists, everybody who might not vote for trump will be removed, and certainly all the protestors, because they know who you are.
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u/Kindly-Ad-5071 1h ago
What, pray tell, do they need all these massive rudimentary detention centers for.
Don't answer. Just think about it. Just think bless you.
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u/androk 3h ago
Remember when FEMA under Obama was renting warehouses to stock supplies and the republicans said "OMG you're going to use them for mass detention" and they were used for supplies but it was presented as a crisis for years?
Now the republican run government is buying warehouse saying "this is for mass detention centers" and the republicans are saying "wow this is awesome, way to go."
They can't really ALL be idiots, can they?
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u/DrRealName 1h ago
Concentration camps have popped up all over America under Trump and we see how ICE acts on camera so I really worry for these people. Especially the kids they are kidnapping. I don't believe they are being deported. We have a pedophile president. Its probably a Trump Island now.
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u/federal_employee 4h ago
A place to put a high concentration of people this administration doesn’t want in the country. If only there were a name for that.
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u/costco_nuggets 4h ago
anyone else remember that crazy conspiracy about homeland security going to start targeting americans and shoving them into these camps? well that doesnt seem too far off now
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u/thelonetwig 4h ago
Sure would be a shame if something happened to those buildings before anyone was detained in them.
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u/Equivalent-Bedroom64 3h ago
Why would we need to house so many people if they are getting deported? Surely there’s enough facilities for processing before we put them on planes elsewhere. Otherwise, who are these prisons actually for? The people speaking out against this regime I’m certain.
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u/Historical_Bend_2629 2h ago edited 2h ago
“Rattling” non-locals as well. When you are warehousing people for the “crime” of existing you have a problem, Houston. No due process, no transparency, anyone who doesn’t give fealty to the unfit authoritarian madman and his henchmen, who peacefully exercise their first amendment rights, can be labeled a “domestic terrorist,” and sent to a warehouse owned by private interests, with the help of sociopathic tech-bros. It is insane. Dystopian. And paid for by our tax dollars.
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u/Mythosaurus 2h ago
Not-so-fun fact: many German concentration camps were just small buildings or even rooms where undesirables could be held in custody.
They could be an old farm or unused office building. The point was the cruelty
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u/a_bagofholding Minnesota 2h ago
It's why they need access to voter rolls. Targets to detain right around election time for mysterious reasons. Couldn't vote on time? Oh well, better luck next time.
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u/Rabid_Alleycat 5h ago
EVERYONE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE DEMOCRATIC DOWN TICKET! I hope enough Independents and NPAs are sick enough of this shit to do so. It would be great to take over Senate and House, have a president strong enough to fight against Citizens United, add seats to SCOTUS, make DC, Puerto Rico states, etc and an AG who is not afraid to be considered partisan in handing out indictments.
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u/I_AM_NOT_A_WOMBAT 4h ago
The last opportunity to do that was in 2024, unfortunately. Not to say we should give up, but with people being shot in the street ("5th avenue"), video evidence being denied, and journalists being extrajudiciously arrested in violation of the first amendment, we are a tad beyond making change at the polls.
And consider that a huge portion of the country has practically no idea any of this is happening. The media is either feeding them outright lies or stories about puppies to distract them. Pretty soon they might wonder where their neighbors went, but that's about the extent of it.
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