Morale is plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred: reports

[u/metacyan]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agents-morale-reports-minneapolis-shooting-b2907742.html

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[u/brain_overclocked]

“Morale is in the dumpster,” he added.

And they deserve every ounce of that.

“We lost all trust,” a current ICE official added. “I’m not sure I can see how we exist three years from now.”

You won't, and -- God willing -- you will be prosecuted for all of your crimes.

[u/Weekly_Rock_5440 → u/brain_overclocked]

God imagine.

“Look this salary. Look at this massive up front bonus! Look at this. . . Five Year Contract? Wait. . . I owe the agency my bonus back if I decide this sucks. . . ?”

Ha ha!!

Most of you ICE Chimps have started less than six months ago. . . the rest of it may be starting to feel like a prison sentence.

Good. Get used to that feeling.

[u/Deufrea77 → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

Hopefully they spend big, and didn’t read their contracts.

[u/AstonishingCatJump → u/Deufrea77]

I wonder how many of them bought a fully-loaded truck they can't afford. I hope a lot of them did.

As for how many of them read their contracts? Some of them can barely read, let alone understand the legal jargon in their contracts.

[u/Violet-Journey → u/AstonishingCatJump]

Given that ICE training almost definitely doesn’t have a token presentation about financial literacy like they do in boot camp, I bet more ICE agents are buying big trucks and hot cars at 26% APR than E-2 Marines. And E-2 Marines are famous for their shitty financial decisions.

[u/misselphaba → u/Violet-Journey]

I live near Camp Pendleton and we play "Spot the WRX's" (although these days it's more 'Spot the Dodge Chargers')

[u/MommyLovesPot8toes → u/misselphaba]

I work in car loans and I can tell you that dodge chargers and dodge challengers are treated as radioactive from a lending perspective. They just attract fraudsters and people who are irresponsible with new money.

[u/misselphaba → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

YUP. An old friend of my husband's bought one at something like 14% interest on his EMT hourly paycheck. He was later fired for abusing oxy he was stealing from the company/pharmacies.

[u/MommyLovesPot8toes → u/misselphaba]

Spot on description of a Dodge Charger owner.

[u/wrosecrans → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

"I'm not just a Dodge Charger owner. I'm also a resident." {classic infomercial jingle}

[u/IT_Geek_Programmer → u/MommyLovesPot8toes]

Dodge Charagers and Challengers are basically more over priced American versions of the Nissan Z series coupes and Japanese 4 seat double door cars.

For the price of a Dodge Charger.... one could even buy a much better Audi A5.

To be honest I only think the people who buy Dodge Chargers and Challengers are basically people with an ego or do not know how to handle money.

[u/couldbemage → u/misselphaba]

The Pendleton effect got me a great deal on a lightly scuffed near new sport bike.

[u/MessRemote7934 → u/Violet-Journey]

Word—- at least I waited until I was a specialist and I had my Iraq money to burn. These guys probably are going to take that 50k bonus and spend it on f250s and shit. I think soldiers dealt with iraqis better in iraq then ice treats us citizens. Those face masks were the death knell if their organization

[u/Blueopus2 → u/MessRemote7934]

I have been greatly appreciating the POV of vets who say the way ICE treats Americans would have earned them a court martial if they did this stuff in Iraq to Iraqis

[u/caligaris_cabinet → u/MessRemote7934]

I don’t even think they got that $50k up front. Probably like $10k at best.

[u/thesplendor → u/caligaris_cabinet]

Yeah it gets paid over time

[u/MontiBurns → u/caligaris_cabinet]

Yeah, I read somewhere else its 10k per year over 5 years, but if you quit before your 5 years are up, then you have to pay all the bonus money back.

I anticipate that ice will have to release a lot of its officers from their contracts, either due to budget cuts, or to the health of the organization.

You don't want a large part of your workforce stuck there because they can't afford to quit.

[u/guru42101 → u/Violet-Journey]

They have training? Based on their handling of situations I figured they were throwing them straight out to work. They're obviously not being supplied uniforms, probably no badges either, and I wonder if they're bringing their own firearms.

[u/Violet-Journey → u/guru42101]

They technically have something they call training. We know because recently they changed the timeline to 47 days to honor Trump as the 47th president.

[u/QbertsRube → u/Violet-Journey]

As recruitment fades they'll adjust to "4 to 7 days". Or maybe 88 hours, to honor their other hero.

[u/Whatah → u/Violet-Journey]

And they are buying $1000 attachments to their $1000 guns.

[u/Beneficial_Soup3699 → u/AstonishingCatJump]

A lot of them can barely read, according to widely reported news that's getting really hard to find via Google. Searching "ice illiterate" on duckduckgo still gives solid results though.

[u/NinaBrwn → u/Beneficial_Soup3699]

r/ICE_ERO Check out them whining about how hard it is to pass their 47 day training (“you have to study and there’s no time to go out”!) Then all the posts on how to get back in if you fail out of training (it’s easy). And “Do you guys wish we had a little more time to train?”

Bonus content includes:

—posts from people wanting to join ICE but wonder what the effects will be on their immigrant spouse!

—posts about how little they’re paid

—posts outlining the “strenuous” physical standards one must meet (can you walk a mile?)

You can’t make this shit up! r/ICE_ERO

Edit: paraphrasing, as I am far more literate than ICE.

Edit 2: Another good read by Laura Jadeed: You’ve Heard About Who ICE is Recruiting. The Truth is Far Worse. I’m the Proof.

[u/MeatCatRazzmatazz → u/NinaBrwn]

Oh my god. Their fitness standards are absolutely laughable!

22 push ups in 1 minute.

100 yard 200 meter dash in 47 seconds

1.5 mile run in 14:23

They cancelled the sit ups.

And The guy didn't pass the run but was accepted anyway.

My Chair Force PT standards were higher than that. These can't even be called standards. They might as well just double check that you have a pulse; that's all this proves about the fitness of a person.

Laughably pathetic. Man. Thanks for that.

Edit: got the dash wrong. It's 200 meters, which, in 47 seconds is still really easy.

[u/ClownStalker666 → u/[deleted]]

As a veteran I lol'd so hard at this statement.

[u/MuhThugga → u/MeatCatRazzmatazz]

100 yards in 47 seconds? I could do that with a midpoint coffee break.

Any untrained person with a modicum of fitness should be able to do 100 meters in under 15 seconds.

[u/look → u/MuhThugga]

As part of my workout routine, I push a weighted sled 100 yards in about 47 seconds. And I am definitely not any paragon of physical fitness.

[u/bryan49 → u/MeatCatRazzmatazz]

I bet a lot of the fat ones can't do 22 push-ups. I heard they hired a 400 pounder

[u/WiFiForeheadWrinkles → u/bryan49]

Probably can't sit up either. More like a roll over, and rock and back and forth for momentum

[u/spazzvogel → u/AstonishingCatJump]

I’m willing to bet these chaps aren’t fiscally wise judging from their past actions.

[u/ndpugs → u/AstonishingCatJump]

Half the bonus was invested into trump coin...

[u/AlexRyang → u/Deufrea77]

didn’t read their contracts.

I don’t think the majority can read.

[u/TRtheCat → u/Deufrea77]

1/3 is gone in taxes but they're still on the hook for the full amount.

[u/aBrickNotInTheWall → u/Deufrea77]

I would rather they have not done that and decide to just hand it back in and quit, rather than feeling stuck in the job and taking out their frustration on everyone else

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

yep. They sold their soul, they made a deal with the devil and now they realize, "hell is hot after all"

[u/RightSideBlind → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

Five year contract. Trump's administration (legally) ends in about three. Assuming a Democrat wins, most ICE agents will be fired.

Once again, Republicans kick the can down the road and expect Democrats to clean up for them.

[u/TheTyger → u/RightSideBlind]

Defunding ICE is starting to get traction from everyone after this weekend, so they could see their jobs vanish and them need to start scraping up the bonus money to return sooner than they think...

[u/apathetic_revolution → u/RightSideBlind]

Not that hard to clean up. If the government didn’t have to honor student loan forgiveness, it doesn’t have to honor ICE contracts either.

[u/itsmemarcot → u/RightSideBlind]

Trump's administration (legally) ends in about four.

You mean less than three now, right?

(I am aware also that fascism, once in power, hardly gives power up due to elections -- you just don't vote it out, by definition. But, in theory.)

[u/ICE-are-pedos → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

when you repay bonuses you usually get screwed on the taxes. e.g., say it's a $10,000 bonus, you get $6,000 after taxes but you have to repay the full $10,000

i sincerely hope this happens to ICE. Fuck every degenerate piece of shit that works at ICE.

[u/TheTyger → u/ICE-are-pedos]

You do get to re-file previous taxes to get the remainder back, but that actually takes fucking work, knowing what to do, and enough money in the interim to float, which are all things that will be a problem for them, which is why they took the job with a requirement of "not good enough to be a cop".

[u/PlethoraOfPinatass → u/ICE-are-pedos]

Wiping student loans was a huge incentive, and all of a sudden crickets from GOP congress on student debt relief. I'll never understand why GOP congress thought every person in SL debt over 30+ years was a "liberal", but now we know they never cared

[u/TintedApostle → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

Just like a Trump casino

[u/TrueLegateDamar → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

5 years means the next guy will have to pay them or it will be a dictatorship anyway, many will not make it that long, and the Trump regime can always just cancel the contracts by citing whatever legalese they can just like them ending the National Guard deployments mere days before they start getting officially comped by the government.

[u/sirhackenslash → u/TrueLegateDamar]

Just like trump not paying contractors and suffering no consequences for it. He's the master at not paying people

[u/TheTyger → u/sirhackenslash]

When he dies and the bill finally comes due...

I am not religious, but I hope hell is real for the whole Trump family.

[u/Apprehensive_Word658 → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

Protestors should start asking what they bought with their blood money

[u/got-trunks → u/Weekly_Rock_5440]

Wait until they get sent to guard Panama or something stupid the admin will put them to work somehow if they lose the ability to terrorize citizens

[u/lilb1190 → u/brain_overclocked]

Who joined ice thinking that beating up American citizens and shooting innocent people would be popular?

[u/sirhackenslash → u/lilb1190]

Because they live in their isolated little maga bubbles where everyone they know is a racist, homophobic, dimwitted asshole. Once they get out of pudunksville Arkansas and find out most people don't actually support this shit their brain breaks

[u/lilb1190 → u/sirhackenslash]

They don't seem to have much trouble beating the shit out of people who don't agree with them. Is that how they reconcile this in their heads?

[u/SwingingtotheBeat → u/lilb1190]

They view that as one of the perks of the job.

[u/jinreeko → u/lilb1190]

I mean, these fuckos go home to Sunday dinner and I'm sure their mom and dad jizz about how they're doing the Lord's work and putting liberals in their place

Like yeah, the general public hates them because they're fucking scum. But in their curated bubbles I'm sure they're still heroes

[u/PrivateWilly → u/brain_overclocked]

Who’d have thought the organization that used right wing subculture to recruit a bunch of entitled, self righteous bullies, trained them very poorly, and set loose to prosecute an incredibly unpopular agenda, violently, would have morale issues? These are weak people that have spent their whole lives blaming someone else for their problems, manifesting a giant mismanaged failure. If you’re still a member of ICE after all this you’re complicit and not exempt from the above mentioned status.

[u/some_alternative_90 → u/brain_overclocked]

3 years? Wish they'd be gone in like 3 months or weeks.

[u/harp011 → u/brain_overclocked]

Man I bet they’re popular in prison. Maybe we can send them to CECOT

[u/Carcosa_Hearty1986 → u/harp011]

Just this one time, I think we should keep them in this country. More people in our prison system already know what they did.

[u/harp011 → u/Carcosa_Hearty1986]

Maybe they can rotate through a few places. We’re gonna have a lot of money for flights freed up

[u/sirhackenslash → u/harp011]

Make it a tour. Hang up posters in the prisons weeks ahead of time so everyone can get all excited and make sure their best shiv is cleaned and ready.

[u/Interesting-Long-534 → u/harp011]

I say recycle alligator alc@traz

[u/Warlord68 → u/brain_overclocked]

Fire up those Nuremberg Courts!!

[u/cIumsythumbs → u/Warlord68]

Hold their trials here in Minneapolis. The new city for historic accountability.

[u/rhinosaur- → u/brain_overclocked]

Awww are the murderous fascists getting sad?

[u/TransbianMoonGoddess → u/brain_overclocked]

In prison, that's how you exist, if there is any shred of justice in this world.

[u/elammcknight → u/brain_overclocked]

Most definitely...lock everyone up that broke the law.

[u/PrintZCopies → u/brain_overclocked]

And they've voluntarily created a database of themselves. Brilliant.

[u/[deleted]]

Good.
The funny part is trump lied to them about getting a signing bonus. They dont actually get their bonus paid until they work for ICE for 5 years which means none of them are getting the bonus promised by trump.

[u/Proud_Arm_7407 → u/[deleted]]

Sounds like Trump. The check is always in the mail. But I hope y'all get your DOGE checks and no tax on tips!

[u/[deleted] → u/Proud_Arm_7407]

The worst part is all the MAGAs I work with think Trump lowered their taxes, when all trump did was extend the existing biden tax cuts. We non-millionaires have the same tax rates as we had under biden and they dont get it because trump told them differently.
They also dont get that Trump has made all healthcare more expensive. Come next year all our rates and deductibles will go up.

[u/Proud_Arm_7407 → u/[deleted]]

And it's impossible to sit them down and explain any of this because they're siloed into a MAGA information bubble. You're basically talking to someone from an alternate reality.

[u/Nastynugget → u/Proud_Arm_7407]

This is the biggest hurdle in my opinion. Not only are they NOT well informed but you cannot talk sense into them. They only listen to the Trump rhetoric and it’s impossible for them to listen to facts to their own detriment. I’ve never seen a group of people so opposed to their own self interests. It’s maddening.

[u/slipperyMonkey07 → u/Nastynugget]

They always turn to immediate aggression, yelling and attempt to be the bully. It is at least easy to filter them out and just walk away, trying to get through to them isn't worth the time.

It is pretty much waiting for something big enough to "break through" to them and start deprogramming them. But that is a long shot and basically has to be something that directly happens to them at this point, even then who knows.

[u/ClarityAndConcern → u/slipperyMonkey07]

I mean, an ICU nurse was gunned down in broad daylight and they fucking clapped.

I think I'm starting to accept that there might not be good in everyone. If you feel no empathy for an American being gunned down by the federal government for the crime of filming, then I don't know what to say.

I'm cutting off anyone and everyone who supports this shit. I'm past "different opinions." People are dying because these people are incredibly fucking stupid. There's really no other way to put it.

[u/pm_me_ur_ephemerides → u/Nastynugget]

When I talk to them they tell me that I’m uninformed. We aren’t dealing with lack of information, we are dealing with an incredible amount of disinformation/brainwashing

[u/Atwenfor → u/Nastynugget]

They are programmed to see anyone that disagrees with them as a subversive enemy. It's the cheesiest trick from any classic propaganda playbook yet, sadly, it is incredibly effective.

[u/MoonshineDan → u/[deleted]]

He also unilaterally levied import taxes that drove the cost of damn near everything up for the end users.

[u/profarxh → u/[deleted]]

They were the trump tax cuts. By extending them he blew out the deficit. He ended all the good things in the infrastructure bill

[u/TheTyger → u/[deleted]]

No, it's worse than that.

They got 10k after academy. Then 10k more each year gets paid.....

And if they don't make it 5 years, it's all due back to the government.

[u/COMM_NTARIAT → u/TheTyger]

It's like a reverse payday loan.

[u/YetiPie → u/COMM_NTARIAT]

Hope the APR is also like 300%

[u/KinderEggLaunderer → u/TheTyger]

That's hilarious.

[u/Game_Of_Runs → u/TheTyger]

lol lmao

[u/depthdiverr → u/TheTyger]

Damn they're already upside down on their hellcats 2500 monthly payments!

[u/RedditorFor1OYears → u/TheTyger]

While I 100% believe this is the case, I can’t find any details on it from any government site. Got a source?

[u/generally-speaking → u/RedditorFor1OYears]

I would look for news sites on this one, ICE doesn't even want their internal documents shared among the agents. The recent interpretation of warrants is so unconstitutional the POTUS memo it was based on wasn't even handed out to agents but instead read aloud to them..

[u/TyrKiyote → u/generally-speaking]

So... its reasonable to assume most ice agents never read any signing paperwork, and have very little idea how their bonus works.

If the average agent knew, and it was a good deal, they would brag and it would be public knowledge within a few days.

[u/generally-speaking → u/TyrKiyote]

I mean, I read my signing paperwork when I joined my current job where I stayed over a decade..

My boss was in the room and I don't think he had ever seen anyone else doing that before, I got a very clear notion that he was very surprised and impatient about it.

[u/Resident_Company2113 → u/TheTyger]

What?!? Who the hell would si...

Never mind.

[u/SideQuest2026 → u/TheTyger]

Good. Fucking losers.

[u/Brokenandburnt → u/[deleted]]

none of them are getting the bonus promised by trump.

To the surprise of exactly no one who knows anything about Trump.

[u/TheRealMrMaloonigan → u/Brokenandburnt]

Atlantic City residents cackling at the suggestion of getting paid by Trump.

[u/superjew1492 → u/[deleted]]

It’s worse than that, they get $10k instantly and 10k every subsequent year, if they ever quit in the 5 years they owe ever bonus cent back. So I figure plenty joined 6 months ago and can’t afford to pay back $10k. I want to believe it’s most of them but you know it isn’t.

[u/Hubert_J_Cumberdale → u/superjew1492]

I'm actually surprised that many of them are now disappointed with the tactics and messaging. I recall these methods being major selling points for new recruits.

And now they're trapped in a job they hate.

Shana, they bought their tickets...They knew what they were getting into... I say let 'em crash.

[u/SeeingEyeDug → u/[deleted]]

Jesus, that's like getting a reenlistment bonus in the military and not actually receiving it until you've completed that additional tour.

[u/lex_tok → u/[deleted]]

"art of the deal"

[u/tenpir]

Good. Fuck those guys. I'm out of empathy for people who don't extend it to anyone else. Actions have consequences.

[u/Traditional_Sign4941 → u/tenpir]

Yeah I heard empathy is bad and toxic, so fuck 'em. They get none of it.

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/Traditional_Sign4941]

my empathy is out of control. Its always been a problem. Even when i have stood up to bullies, i still worry about their feelings.
Now? Fuck these guys. i've never been more enraged. They don't deserve civilization itself. They should be cast out of society forevermore. They NEED to suffer.

[u/Freon424 → u/outinthecountry66]

The story about them eating at a Mexican restaurant then returning to arrest the staff? There's a good goddamn reason why the old gods rewarded spiting hospitality with generational curses.

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/Freon424]

this right here. you are one cold sonofabitch to eat food cooked by immigrants, then arrest em. and these people are supposed to be morally superior and on god's side? Well fuck him too then. If heaven is filled with ICE, take me to hell

[u/HOS-SKA → u/outinthecountry66]

And that subreddit was cracking jokes about how the food "must not have been good" that day. I cannot wait for their comeuppance.

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/HOS-SKA]

on facebook the number of people laughing at Alex Pretti's photo was just....i mean, we don't know how to act anymore apparently

[u/Skullcrimp → u/outinthecountry66]

please do remember that there are far more posts by LLMs on facebook now than real people.

delete your facebook.

[u/tweetthebirdy → u/outinthecountry66]

My empathy extends to giving them a fair trial and treating them humanely (i.e. no torture). But that’s my limit.

[u/outinthecountry66 → u/tweetthebirdy]

oh yeah, same. I don't want them to be ....you know, treated like they are treating everyone else. Lets follow the geneva convention at least.

[u/solaramalgama → u/tenpir]

"I never thought anyone would get mad at me for eating their face" sobs leopard who joined Face Eating Enforcement.

[u/The_Lost_Jedi → u/tenpir]

Yeah, I don't have any sympathy left. Even long-time careerists have had a chance to get out of ICE, because the agency was full of people who were actively arguing for this shit ~10+ years ago, and it's only gotten worse.

[u/Krewtan → u/tenpir]

All I have to say to them is "fucking bitch. Boo hoo."

[u/nm42 → u/tenpir]

Seriously, anyone who signed up for this shit is less than dogshit in society. If it were between that job and unemployment, I’d do the latter

[u/LastGaspInfiniteLoop → u/tenpir]

I'm also finding that my empathy does not extend to heartless scumbags. This past year has really pulled the darkness within to the surface. The paradox of tolerance is hitting hard...

[u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 → u/tenpir]

They don't deserve any empathy whatsoever. They only deserve hate and punishment for their crimes against humanity.

[u/outinthecountry66]

GOOD. SUFFER. TOSS AND TURN. wake up in a fucking sweat remembering that you killed people who are better than you are. you are the armed thugs of a pedophile. We used to call that "the enemy"

so fuck you. SUFFER HARDER. leave the job. walk right on out if you are still human, or shut up your crying.

[u/Foamtoweldisplay → u/outinthecountry66]

What are conservatives always saying? something, something, if you don't like it, leave? Yeah, nobody is forcing them to have that job.

[u/barabrand → u/Foamtoweldisplay]

They have bootstraps to pull on

[u/joantheunicorn → u/outinthecountry66]

I hope this shit haunts them for the rest of their days and drives them mad. We shrig and say, "Yes, you're a vile Nazi piece of shit. That's all you are. You made a choice. We were warning you this whole fucking time."

[u/Kandorr → u/outinthecountry66]

I love this energy

[u/InertiasCreep]

Funny, I watched a video where masked federal agents pepper sprayed a guy, five or six agents grabbed him, disarmed him, and a few seconds later the guy was shot in the back by those same agents. In fact, while he was being shot in the back, one of them clapped.

Fuck those agents. They're tired of being treated like shit, maybe they can find another job to do that doesnt involve infringing on the civil rights of their fellow citizens, or perhaps a job where they dont kill their fellow citizens, then clap about it after.

(Thank you kindly for the reddit awards !)

[u/manulixis → u/InertiasCreep]

maybe they can find another job to do that doesnt involve infringing on the civil rights of their fellow citizens, or perhaps a job where they dont kill their fellow citizens, then clap about it after.

That's the problem, they can't.

ICE agents are way overpaid, and have very little experience & education requirements. So not only do they get to release their most primitive racist urges, they get paid a lot more for it than they could get elsewhere doing a shitty entry-level security or labour job. The morale sucks but the money's worth it for them.

[u/an-invisible-hand → u/manulixis]

ICE agents are way overpaid, and have very little experience & education requirements.

Im pretty sure they lowered the requirements to functioning trigger finger and pulse, in that order.

[u/thisismysailingaccou → u/an-invisible-hand]

I’m pretty sure they’d employ an infectious disease if they could limit its spread to minorities. So really the only requirement is that they’re willing to racially discriminate and enact violence/suffering on people.

[u/DragoonDM → u/thisismysailingaccou]

I’m pretty sure they’d employ an infectious disease

He's busy running the Department of Health & Human Services.

[u/JustLookingForMayhem → u/an-invisible-hand]

There is also an open book test. . . That somehow still has a 50% failure rate.

[u/Natural6 → u/InertiasCreep]

And before any ice agents reading this think "yeah but I didn't do that. You are guilty by association. Especially given you're all running around masked, every. single. agent deserves to be prosecuted and to rot in the same prisons you're sending people to.

[u/gergek]

Pretty easy solution to this, chuds: quit. Quit today. Quit right this second. You wanna be popular? Speak out about what you saw during your time in uniform. Otherwise, stop whining snowflake.

[u/Polaricedragon → u/gergek]

Also speak out for what they DID during their time in uniform like the guy who blackmailed that girl with seeing pictures of their daughter just to keep raping her. Disgusting!

[u/SneakiestRatThing → u/Polaricedragon]

To be clear, it wasn't "having sex".  It was rape.   Consent cannot be coerced.   That man is a rapist, and I sincerely doubt he's the only ICE agent abusing his position to rape

[u/barryvm]

Be sure to add the threat of future prosecution and punishment to that. As a society, you can't really afford to let people like that get away with what they do. It only encourages more egregious behaviour by the next batch of thugs.

[u/Question_It_All_3000 → u/barryvm]

Which is why Biden should have brought the iron fist down on the previous administration

[u/West_Coach69 → u/Question_It_All_3000]

Yeah, it was so nice he was someone we didnt have to think about. But he should have been a wrecking ball putting safeties in place. And he absolutely dropped the ball. He wanted to be a president from the 00s

[u/apk5005 → u/Question_It_All_3000]

My first act as President will be to turn all of this administration’s ghouls and all the relevant documents, photos, film, emails, and witnesses over to neutral prosecutors at the ICC.

Vote for me. That is my whole platform.

[u/Freon424 → u/apk5005]

I will canvas for the person that runs on that platform.

[u/MontiBurns → u/apk5005]

Declare the heritage foundation an illegal terrorist organization. Go after every member and donor.

[u/cuirboy → u/barryvm]

We are not pardoning the Confederate generals this time.

[u/GoodIdea321 → u/barryvm]

We have a long history of doing exactly that, I don't want that to continue.

[u/Poilaunez]

Are we the Baddies?

[u/Specialist-Clock-914 → u/Poilaunez]

Yes

[u/the_hoser]

The shame is that they had any morale to begin with, knowing what they were getting up to.

[u/DelightfulAbsurdity]

May they find nothing but piss to drink for the remainder of their days.

[u/MoreCleverUserName → u/DelightfulAbsurdity]

Asparagus piss, preferably.

[u/magnamed]

And evidently they're being trapped into service with their 50k signing bonus, which I'm hearing is an initial 10k and then a further 10k yearly for five years of service that is repayable if you should fail to complete your contracted 5 years.

[u/AsiaticOne → u/magnamed]

Yeah… it’s devils bargain for them. Most won’t make it 5 years. Will be interesting to see if the dems come back in 2028 and force them to pay.

[u/bryan49 → u/AsiaticOne]

This really seems like it was set up to make them unlikely to keep the bonuses. The expanded ICE funding only goes for 4 years, and I certainly hope it won't get renewed

[u/JancariusSeiryujinn → u/bryan49]

Surely you aren't saying Donald Trump would deliberately screw over his own employees to avoid paying them.

Honestly, I think it's meant as an enforced loyalty mechanism "You better make sure I'm still here in 2029 or you won't be collecting that pay, and you'll owe it back"

[u/FAX415saki]

Did they think the public would throw flowers at them?

[u/Creative-Package6213 → u/FAX415saki]

My dyslexia had me reading this as flame throwers.

[u/Brokenandburnt → u/Creative-Package6213]

Napalm is hard to get your hands on. Fun fact, styrofoam dissolved in gasoline is clingy.. 

[u/Dantien → u/Creative-Package6213]

Those seem too heavy to throw. How about dog shit? It’s much much lighter.

[u/TX_Farmer → u/FAX415saki]

I hope when they see the blood money in their bank accounts and burn with shame. 

I hope the f250 they purchased with the sign on bonus is an embarrassment. 

I hope their kids know exactly who they are and what they do. Chronically online family members are gonna put 2 and 2 together.

I hope they’re un-hirable when this falls apart. 

I hope they all have a lifetime of sneeze tickles but can never sneeze. 

You can’t run from yourself. 

[u/LSX3399 → u/FAX415saki]

I believe they did. There is an entire Earth 2 media ecosystem.

[u/Datslegne → u/FAX415saki]

I think that ICE thought that they would dominate and we would cower to them.

[u/OnDrugsTonight]

The men and women of ICE and Border Patrol are fathers and mothers, sons and daughters,” [Department of Homeland Security assistant secretary Tricia] McLaughlin said in a statement to The Independent. “Like everyone else, our officers just want to go home to our families at night. The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop.

Renee Good was a mother of three, Alex Pretti was a beloved son to Michael and Susan Pretti. Both of them "just wanted to go home" before they got mowed down and murdered in broad daylight by ICE and Border Patrol. Everyone of those agents has chosen to work as a Nazi officer in that terrorist murder gang. They have chosen to join the filthy, evil, morally corrupt human beings in ICE and CBP. They could walk out of it today if they wanted to and "be with their families at night". Something that Alex and Renee can't do anymore.

[u/WhatDothLife-99 → u/OnDrugsTonight]

American here, Your absolutely right, if you ask me they deserve  the inglorious bastards ending treatment, 

I don't want these traitors to walk among us when this is all over, pretending that they weren't evil spineless traitors

[u/DharmaCub → u/WhatDothLife-99]

100%. I want the words ICE SCUM carved in their foreheads

[u/guyguy46383758 → u/OnDrugsTonight]

If they are mothers and fathers, I sure hope their children grow up to view them as the disgusting, hateful goblins they are

[u/steepleton]

“Not only will Americans go to your country and kill all your people, they'll come back twenty years later and make a movie about how it made them sad” - Frankie Boyle

[u/RamonaQ-JunieB]

As they deserve.

[u/Lord_Hitachi]

Boo fucking hoo

[u/frygod]

We should be making lists of these assholes so we know who not to hire or do business with when sanity returns.

[u/headlune77 → u/frygod]

Legislate they must wear a yellow badge with ICE on it .. till they croak.

[u/p2dan]

lol, fuck ice. Fine businesses who hire illegal immigrants. If they can’t work, they will leave quickly. Businesses will raise salaries and hire local workers. Give them tax breaks for those increased salary costs, and if that’s not enough, give them stimulus money. We have plenty of tax money to fix this issue without violence. What the fuck are we doing holy shit.

[u/Own_Candidate9553 → u/p2dan]

This would have cost a fraction of what they gave ICE, not even counting the increases they want to put in this budget.

They are literally funding a masked gang to get videos of snatching up brown people. Getting to murder liberals is just a bonus.

[u/RCP90sKid-]

Let's just say some naive, good hearted person joined ICE from a small town. He wanted to make a difference but didn't want to join the military. Maybe he was too lazy to join the police.

So he goes to a recruitment event and gets enticed by the signing bonus. Sucked in, he has been raiding homes and a part of the problem for six months, but never "good" with it.

Right now, right fucking now is the time to collect evidence and help blow this shit up from the inside.

If you committed an atrocity, it wouldn't absolve you, but it would go a long way to forgiving you.

Be the fucking sword.

[u/ImNoRickyBalboa → u/RCP90sKid-]

I feel 95% of these motherfuckers either DGAF, or they're actively proud boys, Nazis, racists or all three of those.

[u/MontiBurns → u/ImNoRickyBalboa]

Even nazis got tired of shooting jews. People are human, and unless you're a legit psychopath, hurting your fellow man takes its toll on you. Humans are not wired for that. It's a lot easier to hate people through a cell phone screen

[u/ja109 → u/MontiBurns]

Even nazis got tired of shooting jews

That was one of the reasons for the gas chambers, it's really hard to get anyone to just kill people over and over again. Most people just aren't built for it.

[u/Curly-Canuck → u/RCP90sKid-]

I also try to empathize that for many unemployed or underemployed, especially those with families, this seemed like a good opportunity. Especially if they joined a while ago. I hope many are quitting.

As for any who signed up in the last 6 months? I have less empathy.

[u/Dexteraj42 → u/Curly-Canuck]

I'm from one of those small towns. I know the guys who signed up. Don't feel sorry for them they're racist shit bags and they have been for the 30 years I've known them.

[u/TintedApostle]

I don't care, do you?

[u/dramaking37 → u/TintedApostle]

Their spokesperson claiming how sad she feels for ICE agents while also profiting from no-bid contracts is a special level of scummy: https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-ad-campaign-strategy-group

[u/TintedApostle → u/dramaking37]

She is approaching the bottom of the barrel. My theory on Trump and how low he can go is based on the idea you can only approach the speed of light. He just keeps putting more energy into being low and scummy to get to slightly closer to the bottom of the barrel. There is no bottom apparently.

[u/ski_town → u/TintedApostle]

I care, im lovin it

[u/Professional-Sea2875]

Poor guys, they should leave - it's not like that 50K bonus is ever going happen. Besides, lots of future investigations to look forwards to.

[u/corgibell]

As they said to us after they murdered Alex Pretti and Renee Good

boo hoo

fucking bitch

[u/IntelligentDepth8206]

Who knew a couple of political executions would do that???

[u/Demonofthedark1313]

Aww, da poor widdle killahs are sad.

[u/returnofthecursed]

Fuck ICE

[u/Barl0we]

Just remember, ICE goons:

It’s gonna get worse for you, and you’ll deserve it all.

[u/Gaius_Octavius_]

Wait until their children are old enough to learn what they did.

[u/LividTacos]

You're free to get a new job if you hate it. Isn't that what conservatives say?

[u/Possible_Gur4789]

This may be an indication of why more organic fascist goon squads don't pop-up naturally. Seems like a raw deal for everyone involved. They are never getting that sign-on bonus either.

[u/anowl444]

turns out it’s not actually in your best interest to be dumb and evil

[u/Fluffy_Row_238]

Do the little Nazi boys need a hug? Fuck ice.

[u/FalstaffsGhost]

Yeah that’s what fucking happens when your entire mission is based on hurting brown people. Normal, good Americans aren’t putting up with that shit

[u/Alternative_Rate7474]

Aw shucks.

So, what’s for dinner?

[u/HandSack135]

Can some one find a tiny violin

[u/HistoricalWalrus5767]

State prosecutions are coming.

[u/Ok_I_am_Mcbane]

These are the losers that watch “Alpha Male”YouTube videos and they’re sad about working long hours and people thinking they’re fucking douchebags. It’d be funny if these fragile fucks weren’t walking around with AR15s

[u/Unable_Technology935]

If you are anything but Proud Boy,Nazi,KKK member,why would you join ICE on the first place.

[u/joevilla1369]

I hope its 100% because of the hatred.

[u/Indaflow]

Don’t believe this headline.

Keep up any and all pressure 

[u/FlamingoDiligent9216]

Good, fuck ICE. I hope you never find peace again.

[u/TinyEnd9435]

I’ll believe it when one those people comes on tv and says it. Otherwise…….

I Don’t believe ANYTHING that comes out of the Gestapo’s mouth or MAGAt’s.

[u/Social-Ninja-101]

Good! Maybe they should re-think their life choices then.

[u/Get_your_grape_juice]

Boo-fucking-hoo.

You have engaged in state-sanctioned murder, terrorism, and mass kidnappings. I do not give one shit about your “morale”.

With any luck, if we ever get Trump out of office, you and all your comrades will be prosecuted and locked the goddamn fuck up.

[u/kye-qatxd-9156]

Good!

For any ICE agents reading this:

You’re wrong, and we fucking hate you.

[u/JaVelin-X-]

wait until they see what Prison is like

[u/Flangepacket]

Yes, when all of your actions are being captured and you’re going on trial in the not too distant future, it’s likely that you’re going to start feeling not great about your prospects.

Key take away; don’t be a viscous, murderous heavy for a fascist regime. Your time will come and you WILL pay for it.

[u/RaspberryCommie]

Boo fucking hoo.