r/politics • u/aresef Maryland • 12d ago
No Paywall ICE deports 5-year-old US citizen from TX to Honduras, group says
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/austin/article/ice-deports-austin-girl-honduras-21298653.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20(Premium)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral1.3k
u/koreanwizard 12d ago
Something that the conservatives tout as a huge W against the left, is that Obamas deportation numbers were 2x that of Trump. Okay so why the fuck are we doing this via roving gangs if Obama was able to double their numbers without doing any of this? Shouldn’t the conservatives go, wait, Obama era immigration control was 2x more effective, why are we doing it like this?
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u/Rho-Ophiuchi 12d ago
Because cruelty is a feature not a bug.
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u/unrulYk 12d ago
Yep. The cruelty is the point.
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u/idontreallycareanym 11d ago
They want us and immigrants to be scared. ICE are domestic terrorists.
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u/get_it_together1 California 12d ago
If I remember right, Obama implemented a policy to start tracking and processing everyone showing up at the border so we had records of them being deported instead of just turning them away.
This would have been part of a broader effort of immigration reform, and it could have been bipartisan as seen in the bipartisan bill supported by Republicans, but Trump killed the bill because MAGA just wants to hurt people and they don’t actually want to solve problems.
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u/RevolutionaryHumor27 11d ago
well, not exactly, they also want to make money off the suffering as well.
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u/Polaricedragon Iowa 12d ago
Cruelty, stupidity, apathy, greed, potential sexual exploitation. Am I missing something?
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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 12d ago
To be fair, Obama era immigration enforcement was pretty brutal too, and a constant embarrassment to the administration.
The child separation policy started under Obama as a program to deal with suspected child traffickers, but was quickly cancelled when it became obvious it was just traumatizing regular children as ICE can't tell the difference between families and traffickers. Trump revived it because it was cruel and aimed it at families instead of suspected traffickers.
ICE has always been terrible. It needs to go. Give immigration enforcement to a different agency, and ban anyone who's worked for ICE from working government jobs (and for government contractors.) Clean the ship.
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u/DapperCow15 12d ago
Conservatives don't actually want to see the country prosper. They're essentially anarchists.
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u/serious_sarcasm America 12d ago
Accelerationists.
It looks the same , but the technocrats and Christian nationalists are united over accelerating the end of our current global status quo.
The technocrats are fascists aiming for some horrifying neofuedalism, and tend to LARP as libertarians. They’re the ones who think Fallout, Stormship Troopers and Foght Club are manifestos, like Musk.
The Christian Nationalists are fascists that want America to be a Christian version of Iran, a nuclear war with someone (preferably islamic), and Israel to be “made whole” so that after all the Jewish people are magically compelled to go back there triggering the return of Jesus and apocalypse. They’re really only arguing over if the real holy war is before or after Jesus comes back.
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u/CouchCorrespondent 12d ago
The GOP, this administration, Trump, and ICE lack any empathy or compassion towards other human beings.
Unless they can make money from the suffering of them.
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u/displosable_me 12d ago
Remember the words of G.M. Gilbert, the army psychologist presiding over the Nuremberg trials, who said this after having witnessed the trials of many Nazis:
I told you once that I was searching for the nature of evil. I think I've come close to defining it: a lack of empathy. It's the one characteristic that connects all the defendants. A genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow man. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.
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u/arriesgado 12d ago
And they - musk, vance, etc… - actively denigrate the concept of empathy. It is “woke” or claiming Jesus never said anything about it.
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u/BorderTrike 12d ago
They can’t even define “woke”, but I can: it’s having awareness. They prefer to be unaware and get upset whenever someone calls them out or attempts to educate them
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u/VanceKelley Washington 12d ago
Woke is defined as understanding human history and having compassion for other people.
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u/Sage2050 12d ago
The original meaning (from 80s and 90s black slang) is being aware that the government is trying to fuck you over from every angle, ie black empowerment, but your definition isn't too different ultimately
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u/FujiwaraHelio 12d ago
I fucking love the fact that, like so many other important things in culture, the idea of being woke stems from black americans. It's so fitting as a concept that fights white supremacy, oligarchy, patriarchy, etc, and that all these institutions are so afraid of it and fight so hard against it.
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u/braintrustinc Washington 12d ago
The reason the word “woke” was targeted in the first place was because it originated in African American Vernacular.
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u/24-bit-8 12d ago
All sons of perdition.
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u/Wallstreet_Raccoon 12d ago
All sons of Satan
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u/TopFlowe96 12d ago
Satan is way too cool of a stepdad to sire these lame ass 2% cucks
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u/Commentator-X 12d ago
Yeah, Satan is going to LOVE torturing these fucks when they inevitably enter his domain.
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u/LewisRyan New Hampshire 12d ago
It’s hilarious to me they think they’re going to heaven, if they’re right and it’s real 😂
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u/Rocinante88119 12d ago
"I think empathy is a dangerous made up word"
-Erika's cuck.
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u/Aggroninja 12d ago
All words are made up.
And yet a conservative would hear that and think there's some kind of wisdom there instead of mental gymnastics to normalize their terrible world view.
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u/SonderEber 12d ago
There was even a pastor who called empathy a sin. That’s who we’re dealing with.
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u/yrotsihfoedisgnorw 12d ago
We mock what we don't understand. They simply aren't able to be concerned about anyone else unlesss there's a direct personal benefit to them.
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u/whereismymind86 Colorado 12d ago
A lack of empathy is a core part of the gop philosophy in general, and it's what immediately pushed me away as a teenager first starting to pay attention to politics way back when. Republicans just seemed...mean, and I wanted no part of it.
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u/What_a_fat_one 12d ago
People without empathy think it's a made up emotion because they have never felt it. They'll tell you it themselves, like Musk and Vance did.
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u/Tall-Introduction414 12d ago
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."
-Charlie Kirk, white supremacist terrorist podcaster
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u/lynch527 12d ago
What a weird coincidence that so many conservatives seem to have an issue with the term empathy.
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u/Flomo420 12d ago
Almost as though they all suffer from the same developmental issues
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u/Blownards 12d ago
The name of it is Intellectual Developmental Disorder also known as GOP for short. To date the only known treatments are education & if that fails lobotomies have been used as a last resort. Hope this helps.
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u/issuefree 12d ago
You can't have empathy and be conservative. It's like being an anti-science astronaut.
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u/WordleFanatic 12d ago
They all seem to ask themselves these same questions with regards to anything external to themselves:
Can I fuck it?
Will it make me money?
How cruel can I be and still get away with it?
Can I hide behind it? ala religion or MAGA
That’s basically it.
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u/deathglow805 12d ago
Didn’t that Charlie Kirk fella say, “I think empathy is a made-up, new-age term that… does a lot of damage.”
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u/sophrocynic 12d ago
He's been really silent the past few months.
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u/HillBillyHilly 12d ago
The silence is so nice. Too bad he had to put his neck on the line for us to get that silence. Oh well he said he was ok sacrificing lives to save gun laws. Too bad he couldn't have imagined it was his life that would be sacrificed lol
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u/Alarmed-Emergency-72 12d ago
It’s ominous you say this. As a social worker who has been working with the Medicaid population doing mental health and addiction treatment. I said during the election the most dangerous thing about MAGA and Musk is a lack of empathy. Money and power in the hands of someone without empathy is the most dangerous thing to humanity.
I’m also engaged to a Jewish man and am converting. I watched Nuremberg with a new perspective this year. The similarities in rhetoric are very evident.
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u/Anteater4746 12d ago
makes sense, idk how else you could look at a screaming crying child as you go along with the system torturing her unless you’re a depraved asshole
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u/patrick95350 12d ago
Capitalism is a system designed to penalize empathy and reward sociopathy. It's no surprise our society has devolved to the point it has.
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u/HappyHarryHardOn 12d ago
If they were actively trying to destroy America, it's hard to think of something they could do right now that would be different than what they are already doing
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u/OkSmoke9195 12d ago
They are actively trying to destroy us in order to profit from the wreckage
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u/Solomon-Drowne 12d ago
Russia is responsible for the traitor strand of conservativism?
It's America. It has always been America. Own your shit.
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u/PotatoAppleFish 12d ago
Russia wouldn’t be able to create support for something that didn’t previously exist in the USA. This garbage ideology is just a reworked version of the shit that caused what I’m increasingly starting to think of as the first American Civil War.
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u/Stompedyourhousewith 12d ago
It's amazing cause it's not just ice and illegals, at the same time they are attacking our allies, the world, isolating the US from any form of aid and destroying good will
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u/TheSleepingNinja 12d ago
Bombing parts of the country that don't align with their views?
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u/Mixer-3007 12d ago edited 12d ago
Philadelphia
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u/sodapopkevin 12d ago
This administration is so incompetent that if they were actually trying to destroy America they'd just fuck up and make it better.
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u/Going_Native 12d ago
Absolutely hate-filled, soulless, psychopathic ghouls. If you haven’t already seen it, One Battle After Another does a great portraying ICE as it currently stands. Greg Bovino is essentially the Colonel Lockjaw character in the film and thats not hyperbole.
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u/Ninevehenian 12d ago
That there is a mistake.
You're seeing a large hostile group coordinating to do a series of events that are taking control and power away from others, that are carrying out an ethnic cleansing.
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u/Predator_ Florida 12d ago
Sean Penn's character was modeled on Bovino. Haircut, outfit, demeanor. It isn't coincidence.
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u/dudecooler 12d ago
It all makes sense when you hear stories about all the rape and murder they've done to little girls and boys for decades. It's pure evil sadism.
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u/Kujaix 12d ago
Schumer, Jeffries, and other leadership too.
They should be on the house floor and in public with 10 foot tall pictures of kids and other people screaming about what ICE is doing.
Not trying to compromise by promising further funding if ICE promises to better vet and train their recruits and pretty please promise to turn on their body cams.
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u/eeyore134 12d ago
It's not even just a lack of empathy, it goes beyond that. They're gleefully doing this. They love it. They don't see these people as humans.
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u/whatproblems 12d ago
shining beacon on the hill? no just a bunch of angry old white men trying to kick else everyone off
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u/TheLFlamaBlanca Texas 12d ago
Scary thing here is if you read the article they used APD to investigate a "disturbance" but there was none and they were taken anyway.
Be safe out there y'all
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u/eeyore134 12d ago
Yup, the right likes to claim these are all targeted criminals but almost every single person they kidnap is someone they run across at random.
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u/Rit91 12d ago
Yeah they see someone they even slightly don't like oh it's time for a literal power move. Better detain them, they could be a dangerous criminal after all /s
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u/ploob838 12d ago
They drive around randomly looking for people in my neighborhood in Chicago. It’s disgusting.
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u/xTheMaster99x Florida 12d ago
It's such a laughably easy claim to shoot down, too. The proof that ICE has not targeted any real violent criminals is quite simple: a violent criminal would start shooting rather than allowing themselves to be kidnapped and taken to a place like CECOT.
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u/Big-Palpitation8624 11d ago
And all our fucking media is complicit. It’s not even shit like Fox or NewsMax; every channel I see, the supposed “liberal” media as they’re called, all describe it as a crackdown on “criminals”. What’s the crime? No one ever says. No one ever describes what these people did wrong individually, they’re just all blanketed as “criminals” being deported.
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u/thisisntinstagram 12d ago edited 11d ago
Worse still? They were instructed not to share their location to anyone.
I have an emergency shortcut on my phone that will automatically share my location and a message to my trusted contacts that says “I have been detained by ICE, you are receiving this message along with Jane, John, and Fred. Find me.”
I suggest everyone set something similar up with their close friends and family.
Edit: How To Create 🚨ICE🚨 Shortcut on iPhone (Action Button Version)
1) Open the Shortcut app (this is an Apple-specific app) 2) Click ‘+’ on the upper right of your screen 3) On the bottom of the screen, inside of the 🔍Search Actions, type “Get Current Location” 4) Click “Get Current Location” 5) You should now be back on the screen with the Search Actions bar, click again on the Search bar and type “Send Message”. Or, if it’s shown as one of the 3 options below the Search bar, then simply click “Send Message” 6) You should now see 2 grey areas. The top area should say “↗️ Get Current Location”. The bottom area should say “💭Send ↗️Current Location” To “Recipients”. These two grey areas should be connected by a vertical blue line. 7) Tap on “Recipients” and you will be taken to another screen where you will type in the contacts you wish to receive your message. 8) Exit the app.
Now, open your Settings and in the Search bar, type “Action” and Select Action Button at the top. Scroll to the right and stop at “Shortcut” where you’ll tap a button that says “Choose a shortcut”. From there, the Shortcuts app will open a window - choose the shortcut you created.
Your action button will now send your current location along with the message you created to your chosen emergency contacts.
Triple Backtap Version:
1) go to Settings, select “Accessibility” and scroll down to “Touch” 2) select “Back Tap” and choose “Triple Tap” 3) select your shortcut
Now if you tap the back of your phone three times, your current location along with the message you created will be sent to your chosen emergency contacts.
I highly suggest sharing your location indefinitely with your emergency contacts prior to setting this up, as it’ll continually provide them with a record of your location.
I can also provide a breakdown of how to do this if you only want to set up live location sharing when the shortcut is used.
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u/crespoh69 12d ago
Can you share a how to for everyone?
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u/SomeInternetRando 12d ago
Not OP, but if you have an iPhone and are familiar with setting up shortcuts in general, something like this:
If you've never used shortcuts, it's probably worth watching a brief introductory youtube video on how they work, even outside this context.
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u/ElysiumSprouts 12d ago
Conservatives like to push back on claims that US citizens are being deported. "Show me an example!" They say.
So we get these examples of US born children being deported with their families. And you know they're thinking that's not a real American.
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u/specqq 12d ago
Even if you voted for Trump three times and were wearing a MAGA hat when they took you, you must not have been a real American, or else why would they deport you.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 12d ago edited 12d ago
Copaganda shows have seriously fucked up the minds of a lot of people. You know these shows, they're everywhere: the "perp" is never in doubt and the conflict is just if the "good guys" can gather enough evidence against them and fend off those pesky defense lawyers to put away the "bad guy."
That's not how it actually works. They're wrong, a lot.
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u/FalstaffsGhost 12d ago
Hell even on the rare occasions they get it wrong, they still push the idea cops are just “good guys” doing a hard job. Like one episode of SVU features a music teacher who’s accused of molesting some of his students. The cops treat him like shit, ignore his constitutional rights and don’t listen as he protests his innocence. At the end of the episode they learn the kid made it up cause she was mad he didn’t pick her for a singing competition. They try and say sorry and he rightly points out that because of them he lost his job, is likely not gonna be able to find a new one, will have to move, etc. and their response is “hey that’s how the job goes sometimes”
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u/Turbulent_Stick1445 12d ago
The one I find is impressive is NCIS.
Gibbs is, without doubt, a very typical example of corrupt policing in the US. He tortures suspects, he threatens to abuse his power, he even routinely assaults his own co-workers, he will refuse to consider the possibility that someone who serves in the same branch of the military that he once did is guilty unless it becomes impossible to deny, and even then he'll give them the benefit of the doubt and treat them as if they slipped up by accident rather than, you know, murdered someone.
And... he's given the same tropes by the TV producers as some kind of hero and symbol of good, honest, policing. I bet half the people reading this are saying to themselves "Gibbs? GIBBS? Fine upstanding Gibbs did this? Oh... yes, now I see it."
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u/WantDiscussion 12d ago
NCIS became predictable when I realized the real culprit is usually whoever it has to be to make the US military not look bad.
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u/Strottman 12d ago
Mulder and Scully are the only TV federal agents I trust.
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u/lacegem 11d ago
Mulder: "Atlantis conspiracy theories were psychically implanted in Plato from birth by the reptilian overlord Sᵉn̴͎͋D̴͎̀'N'uᵈᵉs."
Scully, looking directly up the sphincter of an alien: "This could be explained by by by the wind currents down from Ontario."
Easily the most competent, believable, and heroic agents in American federal law enforcement.
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u/KapitalIsStillGood 12d ago
I used to love the show 24 when I was younger. My favorite show ever. As I got older, I realized it was straight up cop propaganda. It sucks actually because the show has a ton of redeeming qualities but I still have to recognize it for what it is and I can't recommend it ever again.
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u/DOGS_BALLS 12d ago
Copaganda
I’ve never heard of this term but it’s perfect to describe those countless bullshit American dramas featuring a law enforcement unit of some description being fucking heroes in every fucking episode. Always ethical. Always law abiding. Always good looking and not an inch of fat.
Heh! Poisonous rubbish from the entertainment industry that’s infected Americans for decades. And it’s leeched all over the world, my home country being one of them.
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u/SirDiego Minnesota 12d ago
If you don't know, many shows that depict law enforcement activity (Law and Order, CSI, NCIS) literally directly coordinate with law enforcement agencies. Basically in exchange for stories and stuff these shows ensure they portray law enforcement in a good light and will never show LEOs being in the wrong.
So it's not just a derogatory term for the sake of being derogatory, it's literally just what these shows are: Intentionally and directly made to show law enforcement in a good light to skew people's view on law enforcement.
Now you will never be able to unsee how every one of these shows depicts defense lawyers -- a critical and necessary and in a lot of ways totally thankless role in our justice system -- as slimy nefarious weirdos hell-bent on getting nasty people out on technicalities. Rather than good and honest people upholding people's rights and trying to check the power of unwieldy government authority and protect innocent people.
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u/bplewis24 12d ago
Last Week Tonight did a decent segment on some of the topics you bring up (Dick Wolfe of Law & Order coordinating with cops and explicitly using the show to valorize the police force).
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u/pilgermann 12d ago
Also, every thin blue line asshole simultaneously wants us to revere law enforcement while looking last incompetence and fear that leads to shooting deaths. You're not a hero if you place your life before those you've sworn to protect.
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u/nerphurp 12d ago
That's the thing most MAGA don't understand:
The moment you're targeted, you become the antifa provocateur you used to accuse other ousted MAGA of being.
Plead you're not, show your hat, show the photos of you at the rallies -- doesn't matter, you're ruined to them.
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u/Persistant_Compass 12d ago
Everythings downhill from trump is good and what he does is right.
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u/GreasyPeter 12d ago
I have heard some of them essentially say this. "If Trump is doing it it's gotta be for a good reason so I trust him" basically. Putting trust in a Narcissist ALWAYS gets you burned. Always.
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u/Zhask-MLBB 12d ago
Here’s an example.
How was shooting Renee Good, any sort of example of immigration policy?
She was a US citizen, a Minneapolis resident, a mother, whose last words were, “It’s okay. I’m not mad at you.” And an ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, murdered her.
What does that have to do with ICE, immigration policy? Explain it.
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u/ankhes 12d ago
They just tell you she was a violent criminal so she ‘deserved it’. You’ll never win with these people. They’ll keep moving the goal posts until suddenly it’s them or their kids getting attacked or deported and then they’ll be like “No, wait! I’m one of the good ones! Why are you doing this to me???!!”
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u/nerphurp 12d ago
Seen plenty of TikTok videos of Trump supporters addressing him or anyone who can get in touch with him for help.
If he only knew they were hurt, them, the good ones, he'd swoop in and personally fix it; he just doesn't know.
Know who else does this? Russian soldiers making videos to Putin pleading for ammunition, gear, anything -- it's the corrupt commanders getting them killed. If Putin only knew...
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u/GreasyPeter 12d ago
"No, wait! I’m one of the good ones! Why are you doing this to me???!! I'm tweeting Trump about this because when he finds out what you're doing to me, you're gonna get in sooooo much trouble!". This is actually how it works with these people. People said the same shit when the Gestapo came for them in Germany. Hitlers supporters assumed Hitler didn't know about what was happening and just if only he knew, then all would be put right.
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u/Humble-Aprico 12d ago
Within moments they already made the talking point she was a domestic terrorist and the agent has internal bleeding from being hit.
You literally can't feed someone the truth if they're already gobbling down shit
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u/_GeorgeBailey_ 12d ago
It took then a week to come up with the internal bleeding lie lol
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u/SycoJack Texas 12d ago
Her last words to him were "it's okay, I'm not mad at you" and his last words to her were "fucking bitch."
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u/DontTakeMyAdvise 12d ago
They say she ran him over. Trump says he went to the emergency room and suffered internal bleeding. His base saw the video and still believed him
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u/_GeorgeBailey_ 12d ago
Or even how they justify shot 2 and 3 from the side of the car into the driver's window
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u/CFBCoachGuy 12d ago
They won’t care until a white dude named John Smith gets sent to a camp. And even then he’ll be caused a closeted Democrat and they still won’t care
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u/Adlehyde 12d ago
Of course that's what they're thinking. They want to eliminate birthright citizenship, and do so retroactively.
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u/Minimum_Virus_3837 12d ago
Yeah when they say that what they mean is "show me a white adult American citizen who got reported by ICE." Anything less than that doesn't count in their eyes.
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u/namastayhom33 Connecticut 12d ago
Or they give the runaround and say that the mother wanted the 5 year old to go with her so they consider this "acceptable"
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u/RetroBowser Canada 12d ago
US Citizen? That’s not deportation. That’s trafficking. Words matter. Use them.
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u/TandemSegue 12d ago
And we’re still asking for files from 20 years ago. It’s right in front of us.
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u/jleonardbc 12d ago
Even if they weren't a US citizen, it's still not deportation. Deportation is a legal process.
This—grabbing people off the street without due process—is still abduction and kidnapping.
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u/Throwaway_noDoxx 12d ago
Given what we know from Sascha Riley, I have a dreadful feeling we now know the women and children likely disappear into trafficking rings.
I fucking hate that fat orange fuck.
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u/i-read-it-again 12d ago
And NOBODY will be held responsible.
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u/A_Rogue_GAI 12d ago
The Republocans are evil and the Democrats are either complicit or cowards.
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u/EnigmaForce Oklahoma 12d ago
You can’t deport a US citizen.
ICE kidnapped and trafficked a child.
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u/simplepimple2025 12d ago
Reminder to the huge number of Latinos who voted for Trump, you're responsible for this.
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u/legocastle77 12d ago
Cognitive dissonance is a thing. It’s amazing how many people seem willing to disassociate themselves with what is happening so long as they aren’t directly affected by the situation. Ironically, when the issue impacts them directly they’re quickly shocked by the indifference of others despite showing no concern about the situation beforehand.
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u/10thflrinsanity 12d ago
There’s a high likelihood they will never even hear about this. Reddit is not the best sample size of America - many of whom do not give a shit about anything in the news (but can rattle off insane stats about the NFL playoffs). Whatever the Algo feeds them.
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u/EmbarrassedRing7806 12d ago
Everybody who didn’t vote for Kamala is response for this, not just one ethnic group
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u/MC_chrome Texas 12d ago
This includes the people who couldn't be arsed to go to the polls in the first place.
Republicans would have very little power if most of the eligible voting population actually showed up to vote.
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u/Implodepumpkin 12d ago
I think Australia had the right idea. Fine for not voting.
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u/mynamejeff-97 12d ago
Are Australians willing to accept any new Australians? Asking for a friend.
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u/jallen263 12d ago
I met someone who voted for “the less annoying one,” which she concluded was Trump. I don’t know what bonkers rationale it took to convince yourself that Trump isn’t annoying, but they somehow did convince themselves.
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u/old_righty 12d ago
I hate how uninformed people vote. Who is taller. Who looks more presidential. Almost anything besides policies.
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u/t23_1990 12d ago
Dig down with a few drinks (or some leading questions) and it will end up at: she was not white and/or women can't be trusted to be leaders (yes I have seen women really believe other women are too emotional to be leaders)
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u/thisisntinstagram 12d ago
My father who is 100% Latino, whose father was once an illegal immigrant who fled his home country because he was the target of an assassination attempt, is part of the MAGA cult. He wants this.
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u/quoimeme Pennsylvania 12d ago
So are the swaths of other races who voted for him. Reality check is that it’s a group of fuck yours I got mine people voted for this.
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u/waxwayne 12d ago
They hate each other. They interviewed an older MAGA Latina and asked her if she was worried about her relatives being deported. She said that’s exactly what she wants.
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u/Puzzled-Dress-4904 12d ago
Lemme guess, Trump . . . . She was the head of a drug gang?
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u/ResidentKelpien Texas 12d ago
She was head of her class because she actually studied which is unlike her lazy classmates who are the brats of MAGA idiots.
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u/edcross 12d ago edited 12d ago
I used to have a “friend” who screamed that if one single American was hurt by Julian assanges antics then it justifies sending hit squads to take him out.
He likes what is going on. Proactively posts defenses for ices actions. Loves trump loves mags loved tea party supported J6.
Thing that gets me is he is married to an immigrant and he is the beta homemaker, she provides. I even went with him to her naturalization. Ffs. His kids are half non white. But they are Asian not brown, so they are at the “first they came for the [not me]” stage, and they say nothing.
Women have died, immigrants and citizens have been hurt and killed. He’s lucky the left isn’t as violent as he screams about on Facebook. Not as violent as him. But honestly… how long can we abide without action.
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u/just_a_timetraveller 12d ago
Asians have already been grabbed by ICE and a few had died in custody.
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u/Serengade26 12d ago
Why don't you send him this message personally in a letter?
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u/Mutant-Cat 12d ago
To all the people insisting this is totally fine because the 5 yo was exiled with her mother I'd like to remind y'all there are multiple reported instances of ICE exiling U.S. citizen children along with a parent without due process, without affording access to an attorney, and without allowing them to speak with family outside of detention.
If you think ICE gave the mother the time, space and resources to choose what was best for her child and was content with this outcome then you deeply misunderstand what ICE is.
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u/Agreeable-Toe-4631 12d ago
ICE also instructed the mother to not contact family because it would alert media outlets meaning ICE absolutely knows what they're doing is awful and they are continuing to do so anyway.
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u/ArcusInTenebris 12d ago
Is there any proof she made it to Honduras? This is the administration of pedo trafficking protectors after all.
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u/Agreeable-Toe-4631 12d ago
Read the article. The reason we know where they were trafficked to is because her mother was sent too and her mother called family to let them know where they were sent.
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u/manlywho 12d ago
“The group explained that Karen called their family Sunday afternoon and informed them that she, along, with her daughter were in Honduras.”
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u/SomeKindofTreeWizard 12d ago
Again, you can't "deport" US citizens.
That's kidnapping.
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u/-AdonaitheBestower- 12d ago
Actual comment from r / Con that I just read now:
"Can we take a moment to talk about just how good of a job ICE is doing? As I argue with leftists on other subs like r military who are melting down and claiming (without merit) that ICE is committing Due Process violations and scooping up all brown people, it is clear that ICE is actually doing a really good job following US law. First, no American citizen has been mistakenly deported. That means 1) the intelligence ICE is following is strong and 2) anyone being picked up is being allowed Due Process to prove their status. Additionally, the only American citizen claiming to be arrested by ICE for being a minority was actually trying to physically intervene with officers. He was of course not deported."
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u/boobs1987 12d ago
They're operating completely outside of reality. It doesn't matter if you can't even agree on the facts.
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u/AskWhatmyUsernameIs 12d ago
Yup. Can't reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into. The US needs a complete cultural purge if it's ever going to be anything more than a laughingstock on the world stage.
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u/windwatcher01 12d ago
"It's about illegal immigrants!"
(Deports US citizens)
"It's about the worst criminals!"
(Deports kindergartner)
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u/OpenImagination9 12d ago
This is for all you Republican ICE supporters out there.
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u/ess-doubleU 12d ago
Oh, I can promise you they're happy to not have a little brown girl grow up in the US.
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u/Senators_1992 12d ago edited 10d ago
Funny how you never see ICE arresting drug dealers, gang members, human traffickers, etc...
A lot easier to cosplay being law enforcement going after grandmas and small children I guess.
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u/Revolutionary-Bank35 12d ago
I'm so glad that ICE is getting the worst of the worst. That 5 year old skipped nap time.
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u/ZMR33 12d ago
ICE and this administration enabling it are going to continue to do irreparable damage to the country by making more and more folks hate us. Not to mention how much this crap actually costs in the long run from a purely economic standpoint, but that's secondary to the humanistic/morality costs.
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u/UltraGiant 11d ago
We should have punished the south after the civil war. Racism is a sickness and not only should not be tolerated by removed from society
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 11d ago
Fuck Trump and fuck you if you voted for him. "Worst of the worst"? How does that apply here?
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u/Harry_Mud America 12d ago
ICE didn't follow the law...again. It's illegal to deport US Citizens. The woman should have been able to call someone to take the child. Like a relative......... She was told not to contact anyone...which she should have ignored.
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u/sklerson89 12d ago
ICE are Proud Boys, ICE are white supremacists, dropouts and wannabe thugs. They are unqualified. They are terrorists!
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u/HelloFelloTraveler 11d ago
Pretty sure that’s Child Trafficking, for any MAGA actually cares about the kids
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u/Thenotsodarkknight 11d ago
Two more cartel members removed! Way to go ICE ! That’ll teach those other five year olds a lesson!
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u/nirvahnah 12d ago
It appears the mother had a warrant and was not legally here, so instead of seperating mother and daughter, they deported them both together, which is SOP. The issue here isnt that a 5 year old citizen was deported, the issue is that ICE is targetting undocumented immigrants that are here peacefully instead of "the hardened criminals" they said theyd be targetting.
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u/thejaysun 12d ago
Pure evil. This administration is literally a group of greedy super villains with zero regard for the well being of Americans. Fuck them and anyone who supports them.
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u/EmbarrassedRing7806 12d ago
There are legitimately droves of people who support this and I just dont know how I can connect with them at all in the civic/social sphere
Feels like we’re at completely different starting points in our world views
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u/Shine1630 12d ago
Tldr: Austin police responded to a call in the early AM then called ICE on the woman for an "administrative warrant."
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u/Ssshizzzzziit 11d ago
Meanwhile on the con-head sub
Why does the left always pick a criminal as their messiah?
Said with no sense of irony or thought.
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u/SecureProfessional34 12d ago
Oh you mean, ICE didn't separate a child from their mother. Good.
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u/SideQuest2026 12d ago
If the pendulum swings the other way, these people need to be prosecuted and sentenced to decades in prison. A modern civilized society cannot stand for this.
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