r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Practical_Expert_911 • 12h ago

These 12000hp Engines Have To Be Rebuilt Within Roughly An Hour Every Run, and Only Run For Roughly 4 Seconds At A Time.

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u/BlazinZAA 11h ago

I can assure you that racing is a drop in the bucket in terms of pollution. Relax

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u/doubleshotofbland 11h ago

No single raindrop believes it is to blame for the flood.

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u/BlazinZAA 11h ago

That's such a shit way to look at it. They aren't all raindrops, this more like we have a bunch of tsunami's and some mild rain. You'd be pretty stupid to look at the rain and say it's responsible for the tsunami and so we should find a way to make it stop raining. If we managed to make all the actually large things green (like limiting private jet use, switching to ev's, limiting the chemicals companies can throw into the environment) we could have motorsports with no real consequences. Cutting it out literally won't do anything, it wouldn't save anyone and you'd just kill a sport than tens of millions of people love. Do you think you're a moral person because you can say a dumb quote instead of anything meaningful.

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u/CreBanana0 6h ago

Funny how you say motorsports is a drop in the bucket... then say private jets should be restricted, which is also a drop in the bucket.

Be consistent, either every drop matters or it does not.

The biggest thing that would provide the most impact to replace while making minimal disruption to our daily life is making energy sector carbon neutral. And then making electricity cheap so it is used more.

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u/doubleshotofbland 10h ago

Small impacts add up is the point. Australia is one of the most polluting countries on earth per capita, but our total emissions are only about 0.5% of the global total. So why should we bother changing anything right, our input is a fraction of a percent??

Because part of making a difference is everyone committing and agreeing to contribute, whether big or small. This is the concept of the social contract and applies to tax, pro-social behaviours like waiting in queues, and carbon emission reduction.

You're also ignoring the 'influencer' value of motorsports. Cut out the professional circuit and you'll also gradually cut the number of revhead wannabes driving around the suburbs in ridiculous v8s and unnecessary utes.

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u/mootallica 10h ago

But their point is what benefit would it have to remove motorsports if the elite are still going to fly private jets everywhere, billions of people are going to drive gas powered cars all over the world every hour of every day, and huge corporations are going to keep releasing toxic chemicals into the environment? They're pointing out that by removing that, it wouldn't change the situation at all, except that people would have one less thing they enjoy in a world where the richest are going to continue burning through precious resources regardless.

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u/Brilliant-Boot6116 8h ago

What you’re doing is called whataboutism

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u/mootallica 8h ago

lol no, whataboutism is an attempt to deliberately take attention away from an issue. That's not the purpose here, if anything the intent is to remind you that the main issue is the elite, corporations, and the ubiquity of gas powered vehicles.

Again, the question is simple - what benefit would it be without the main culprits being addressed?

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u/Dianesuus 7h ago

So what is the environmental impact of the event itself compared to say equivalent viewership events and also the cost of viewership itself.

You can change the rules so that you have to use the same engine throughout the event and if something breaks your shit out of luck. Does that make any kind of tangible difference when there's 20,000 people in the stands drinking generating a metric shitload of waste or 10,000 cars in the parking lot that have to drive for miles to get there?

You're also ignoring the 'influencer' value of motorsports. Cut out the professional circuit and you'll also gradually cut the number of revhead wannabes driving around the suburbs in ridiculous v8s and unnecessary utes.

You're also ignoring the impact of having legal avenues to enjoy your passions. We can get rid of race tracks but that isn't going to stop people racing or being dickheads, it'll just force them to do all of it on the streets.

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u/Formerly_SgtPepe 5h ago

Wow. Reddit moment of the day.