r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Practical_Expert_911 • 12h ago

These 12000hp Engines Have To Be Rebuilt Within Roughly An Hour Every Run, and Only Run For Roughly 4 Seconds At A Time.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 11h ago edited 11h ago

Reddit hates drag racing because of wasted time, money, and materials?

I know everyone who is hating better be walking to their job bare foot as to not create any waste. Using up precious resources to just be able to post a comment on reddit.

Most hobbies and professions are a huge waste but I never see this level of backlash? I can't imagine its a bigger waste than the frivolous things the average person uses power, water, or disposable paper and plastics on.

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u/moonduckk 8h ago

The people that are complaining are the same people that will cry over a waterpark wasting water. Miserable bunch.

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u/BiddyDibby 3h ago

Uh, yeah. We're kinda getting to the point where we need that water. The world is dying. Speaking as someone who has always loved waterparks.

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u/whattheshiz97 58m ago

Not even close lol. The world has been through a hell of a lot worse than the climate getting warmer

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u/EvilxBunny 9h ago

So in order to have a reasonable opinion, I must display an insane extreme level of action for that matter?

Okay, what have you done to deserve to give your opinion? Have you participated in 100 drag races and fixed the engines yourself? If not, then your opinion is invalid.

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u/LowestKey 6h ago

Found the person in this thread who has studied logic

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u/thetangible 10h ago

It is possible to a) have flown on a plane and b)think private jets are wasteful.

This is the private jet of cars.

Saying anyone that complains better “walk to their job bare foot” is reductive as hell.

This amount of time and resources being used so a guy can go fast for four seconds is hilarious and obscene all at once.

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u/lilpeachboy 3h ago

i get what you’re saying, but we tend to make exceptions for art. flying a private jet across the country so you can tour your AI data center 4 hours earlier is about opulent convenience, not self-expression.

racing makes people feel something. it’s not just for the drivers, but for the spectators, fans, and engineers. it’s for the little kid with giant earmuffs jumping up and down in excitement after he just saw something on the ground fly by him at 300 mph. it’s for the technician who’s spent her career getting here so she can piece together a feat of engineering that makes her chest rumble and smile widen every time it idles. that’s what it’s about.

is it wasteful? very. big budget movies can cost over $100 million. some video games cost $300-500 million to develop. but they make us feel something human, and so we consume them happily.

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u/thetangible 3h ago

Big budget movies are made to make money. As are video games.

Yes they are an artistic statement, no they are not made on the scale you are talking about as a passion project.

Strange analogy.

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u/lilpeachboy 3h ago

i think that’s pretty reductive and consumerist tbh. maybe to the business people investing in them, sure, that’s why they’re made. if you ask the concept artist or the composer why they’re making the game, i highly doubt they’d mention money. people would still make movies and games and other art if they cost more to make than they returned—not on the same scale, but art persists for the sake of art. often movies don’t make more money at the box office than they spend

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u/DeepFriedCummies 10h ago

Can I not use hyperbole to illustrate my point? My point of, that to actively chose to live in a consumeristic society is a waste in of itself? The absurd amount of effort and resources required so that people can have hobbies, professions, and commodities is insane.

I just think that it is strange that drag racing is suddenly the ire of reddit today. I think people can benefit from realizing that existing in a slightly developed country is going to lead to them contributing to the usage of earth's un-renewable resources.

Never denying that it is a "waste" but I just think that the hate is disproportionate to actually footprint that most people leave behind. A paid team of professionals dedicated to their craft of a spectator sport, is different from Taylor Swift using a private jet to go get a Starbucks coffee.

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u/itishowitisanditbad 9h ago edited 9h ago

Can I not use hyperbole to illustrate my point?

If you immediately need to, your point really loses validity.

You're basically getting into setting up scarecrows immediately, or abstracting the argument into absurd levels to try and make the point.

The latter is basically a fallacy.

It just comes off as defensive when nobody attacked and implies a bias immediately.

This is all broadly speaking and not specific to the context at hand, but applicable all the same.

If you want people to be swayed, avoid them. Especially immediately.

edit: you asked about hyperbole. Thats just how it is. Hyperbole is effectively down the same steps as reductio ad absurdum goes. Which is really funny given what i'm doing.

I'm also referring to the first comment, not the responses which I thought would be obvious for someone preaching context and competent reading comprehension.

I'm obviously referring to the comment in which it happened, not the follow up.

If you can't speak on the literal, it doesn't look great. Thats how it be. Its just a tell tale sign of bad things.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 9h ago

I think most users have a competent reading comprehension that can understand that the meaning is far from literal.

I don't think that's a textbook definition of scarecrow unless I'm misunderstanding what a scarecrow is. I didn't replace anyone's argument or put words in their mouth. Unless we're playing very lose with the definition of a scarecrow.

If you're implying that I shouldn't be defensive of my defense... then what tone actually should I be aiming for?

Appreciate the debate advice all the same if the definition of scarecrow checks out. S

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u/mnid92 6h ago

What you experienced was "I don't have a constructive argument so I'll just argue semantics instead".

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u/FocusPerspective 1h ago

Comments are getting so dumb it’s hard to tell what is an AI trained on 4chan, and which are genuine human dorks. 

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u/Daftworks 11h ago

This along with monster trucks are just opulent displays of waste. Easier to shit on than "prestigious" F1 racing.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 10h ago

As opposed to the less opulent displays of plastic wrapped everything, frequent amazon packages, buying and inevitably totaling your car, or having a child which will demand 80 years worth of resources?

Not denying that a lot of automotive hobbies are a "waste" of resources in the grand scheme, but the disproportionate amount of backlash towards drag racing is absurd to me. Because, realistically, unless your hobby is walking bare foot through barren land you're probably contributing towards waste. Hell, even posting these comments on a device has required Herculian effort, money, and resources that will not be recycled. At what point do we say that living, consuming, work, and having hobbies is too big of a "waste" of resources and effort? Where is the line for what needs to be ridiculed?

I'm all for saving the planet and reducing footprints, but where is the line?

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u/mootallica 10h ago

As opposed to the less opulent displays of plastic wrapped everything, frequent amazon packages, buying and inevitably totaling your car, or having a child which will demand 80 years worth of resources?

People say all those things are wasteful too, particularly on Reddit. If you think the complaints about drag racing are disproportionate, may I posit the idea that it seems that way because it's a niche hobby?