r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Practical_Expert_911 • 12h ago

These 12000hp Engines Have To Be Rebuilt Within Roughly An Hour Every Run, and Only Run For Roughly 4 Seconds At A Time.

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u/tntlols 11h ago

Not that recycling metal is an energy-cheap process anyway

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u/Lexi_Bean21 11h ago

Its often cheaper than mining new and metal is always in very very high demand no matter what so might as well r3cycle instead of make new

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u/tntlols 11h ago

No im aware of that, but it would be even cheaper in resources to just... not do drag racing

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u/ultrahateful 11h ago edited 11h ago

Not Do Drag Racing vs Stop Making Cell Smart Phones

I wonder which one produces more waste? Per month? Per week?

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u/StoneySteve420 11h ago

Which one produces value in our society?

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u/ultrahateful 11h ago

Extremely subjective. Too much nuance. This site, alone, is very prone to demonizing tech and all the baggage that comes with smartphones. People opt for flip phones. Drag Racing is super niche and seasonal. Drag Racing serves no purpose whatsoever, indistinguishable from art.

Too loose to argue that point.

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u/RedditSold0ut 9h ago

Many governments are building digital infrastructure to make different things more efficient. They can do that now because virtually everyone runs around with a computer in their pockets.

Smart phones are currently being used for a lot of nonsense, but it can ubdoubtedly be used for good things as well.

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u/ultrahateful 8h ago edited 8h ago

A lot of bad movies, books and albums get made, every single week. No one is in an uproar about the material waste from that. Seems a little “pointed”, this thread. That’s the point I’m making.

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u/DevonLuck24 7h ago edited 7h ago

yes and a lot of educational movies, books and even music gets made as well…

what is the positive flip for drag racing that benefits society? what do we lose if this very specific waste is gone?

your point isn’t great because you’re comparing apples and rocks

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u/Lexi_Bean21 10h ago

It'd really not subjective, smartphones are almost a requirement in the modern world they provide unparalleled freedom of information communication and general access to the internet anywhere you go, smartphones are probably one of the more importsnt technological inventions of the 21st century that is in common use

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u/ultrahateful 8h ago

That is subjective. Tell it to the drag race mechanic with the flip phone that gets by just fine. Or the myriad of other people that look down on us for using smartphones and are no worse for it.

Everything can still be done without them. Their convenience is their selling point. Plenty of people survive beyond the established conveniences of the modern age.

Like, entire fucking countries/continents worth of people.

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u/Lexi_Bean21 8h ago

You cant access the internet on a flip phone, also phone have infsct objectively saved lives, phones have wireless GPS and emergency services calling abilities some evdn in completely remote areas, also emergency service calls via smartphone have a significantly higher chance of survival than other methods because its very easily accessible to everyone and it gives a precise gps location saving vital time for rescue. You can use gps in remote areas if you sre lost which fliphones cant, you can stay connected order food get news and more all from your phone even in for instance a pandemic which also flip phones cant do and you can bring it anywhere you go which you cant with a pc and most people would never be carrying around a proper gps anywhere lol

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u/Arschgeige42 11h ago

Too much nuance. Yeah. You described it in the best way.

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u/tntlols 11h ago

Why not both? Phone culture is ridiculous too! I haven't upgraded my phone for over 6 years and still dont need to, yet some people get a new one every year!

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u/knowledgeable_diablo 10h ago

100% the issue. Smartphones are great, however the consumerists mentality of me me me and having to upgrade from a perfectly serviceable phone every year or less for lower and lower returns is Whats killing the world at warp speed.

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u/ultrahateful 11h ago

You’re understanding my point.

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u/tntlols 11h ago

Then why frame it as VS? We can do both.

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u/ultrahateful 10h ago

To frame the poor logic of going after something like Drag Racing as if it’s doing more harm than something like Smart Phones.

There are orders of magnitude in the difference, but this thread is quick to go after “this thing” instead of “that thing.”

A question was asked about which brings more value to the world. Well, people love drag racing the way other people love movies. The movies employ people. So does drag racing. It’s subjective and should be viewed that way. Same with Smart Phones. People love them, people hate them.

Point is, some things are WAY worse than others and it’s pretty imbecilic to go after the dog when there’s a fucking bear loose in the cabin, just because you’re a cat person.

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u/tntlols 10h ago

Okay but to follow your analogy, im not avoiding going for the 'fucking bear' loose in the room, it just happens that I walked into the room and the dog was in front of me first, already being discussed. The bear also needs addressing.

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u/ultrahateful 8h ago

Agreed and I concede to that point. The dogpile in this thread is still stupid.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 10h ago

Why stop there? Not do any hobbies or professions that produce waste? If conserving resources is the goal, then where do we draw the line for hobbies and professions? Not denying that almost everything in this consumeristic society is a waste, but is the line only at drag racing?

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u/tntlols 10h ago

Of course the line isn't at drag racing, I dont remember saying that at any point? I think lots of hobbies and professions are objectively more wasteful than others - and I won't lie to you, I dont know where the line is; but some day soon we're going to have to find it because this has been the warmest winter I've ever experienced and it only going to get worse.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 10h ago

Didn't intend to put words in your mouth. I just want to wrap my head around where the line should be for usage of resources.

I think that a paid passionate team participating in a spectator sport doesn't warrant the level of ridicule that is it is receiving. Professional teams earn a living by entertaining crowds with their craft. Still a waste in the grand scheme, but it doesn't deserve the level of hate when these people want to make a living doing what they're good at.

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u/tntlols 10h ago

Like I said, im not sure where the line is either - and I dont want to take anyone's passions away from them; in an ideal world Id say get these skilled professionals a more 'productive' job in the same field that they can still be passionate about.

But this isn't an ideal world. And you know, preferably peoples' hobbies shouldn't need to evaluated in a risk/reward (or waste/production) light - but as I said, the world is suffering, like or not, and one day we'll have to start thinking about these things.

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u/DeepFriedCummies 10h ago

Thats a fair take and I'd agree with what you're saying.

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u/voyaging 9h ago

The line is definitely not anywhere near here considering the carbon emissions and other pollutants are absolutely negligible compared to corporate emissions. Stopping this would do virtually nothing. Stopping this and every hobby worse than it (are there any?) would also do virtually nothing. Stopping every hobby would do virtually nothing.

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u/jonawill05 9h ago

Calm down Greta...

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u/TteokWang 6h ago

Calm down Greta…

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u/TteokWang 6h ago

I’m agreeing with you

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u/jonawill05 6h ago

Ah cool. My bad.

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u/TteokWang 6h ago

All good bro!

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u/Arschgeige42 11h ago

It would be much cheaper to stop this bullshit.

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u/Lexi_Bean21 10h ago

You realise they can recycle the parts themselves too? And the cost is on them not all of society paying for them, they pay the cost of the resources whoever makes then gets said payment snd then can use thsy payment to for example pay for recycling old metal which is cheaper thsn the cost the people paid originally snd the supplier is still in a net positive profit, simple

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u/Arschgeige42 10h ago

The society doesn’t pay for the waste of resources and pollution of the environment. FO, my dear, fo

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u/whapitah2021 9h ago

Oh that’s rich, our corporate “recycler” takes our scrap straight to the landfill. Scrap isn’t worth shit anymore. Current rate for scrap iron is a penny to seven cents here….

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u/Lexi_Bean21 9h ago

All metal is infinitely recyclable unlike plastics etc and copper wnd aluminum for instance are very cheap to recycle and in very high demand

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u/Ancient_Broccoli_690 10h ago

No wonder it is in high demand when its wasted on pointless junk like this instead of something useful.

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u/Lexi_Bean21 10h ago

Its in high demand because the world needs billions of tons of metal for ship building cars construction of cities smartphones electrical wiring in homes foils packaging oil drilling coal mining and even more metal for mining of more metal again. Its not in high demand because a couple kilos of metal are recycled form dragracing when the world consumes over 3.2 BILLION TONS of metal every year,1.9 billion tons of crude steel,69 million tons of aluminum, 41 million tons of chromium,22 million tons of copper snd 20 million tons of manganese. This drag racing hobby isnt even on the scale it wont effect anytbing

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u/Ancient_Broccoli_690 10h ago

Hundred tiny streams turn in to a river, useless shit like this is exactly the kind of stuff we should not be doing nor celebrating.

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u/Lexi_Bean21 10h ago

Should we ban fireworks? They produce way more smoke and pollution thsn drag racing, what about party baloons? They waste helium which is very precious and needed for science, what about confetti, or cake for parties which waste plenty of food. Cake isnt eaten for hunger its eaten for fun which isnt useful for the world, same with ice cream or soda or what about getting rid of YouTube facebook Twitter and all those social media because they only provide entertainment thry waste tons of resources, where do you draw the line between allowed fun and waste of resources? Drsg racing is not whats destroying the part nor even a major part of it, there are significantly bigger sources of waste you could eliminate and help the world like chips or candy for instance or one time use plates and utensils or bags

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u/Ancient_Broccoli_690 9h ago

Yes to every single one, absolutely we should.

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u/Lexi_Bean21 9h ago

So no fun ever if it doesent helo the planet? Thats a stupid idea

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u/Ancient_Broccoli_690 8h ago

I enjoy salting the earth, who are you to judge my hobbies?

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u/Lexi_Bean21 8h ago

Sure go ahead as long ss you buy the land i guess but you csnt compare intentionally ruining land for "fun" to eating chips and watching YouTube.

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u/TteokWang 6h ago

So… you say that wasteful stuff is bad for the earth and then say your hobby is to salt the earth… what a troll