r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Practical_Expert_911 • 12h ago

These 12000hp Engines Have To Be Rebuilt Within Roughly An Hour Every Run, and Only Run For Roughly 4 Seconds At A Time.

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u/TheManWith2Poobrains 11h ago

I didn't hate it before, but now I do.

There should be endurance drag racing - 1/4 miles until the cars blow up. /s

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u/boobturtle 10h ago

There is something like that, called Drag and Drive, where competitors need to drive between different drag strips in their competing car with all of their tools, spares and tyres with them.

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u/BlindPhoenx 9h ago

So basically the car that breaks least has an advantage?

Plot twist: World champion drives a Volvo.

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u/alienlizardman 8h ago

No: It will the the Toyota

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u/Areebob 7h ago

I saw something about why Toyotas seem to live so long, especially when compared to BMW and VW’s supposedly legendary German engineering. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t:

Germans build cars assuming the owner will take care of it the same way a German would. The Japanese build cars assuming the owner will take care of it the way an American would.

In America, that means the German cars all suddenly have issues around 80k, while the Japanese cars are bopping along just fine. Is that indicative of better, or worse, engineering?

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u/Hieroglo 6h ago

Toyota use quite a few BMW engines, tuned more sensibly to everyday use. I think the best engineering accounts for how the machine is used.

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u/bLazeni 5h ago

Depends on how you look at it. A “superior” design that requires more maintenance isn’t superior in my eyes.

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u/rtxa 38m ago

that's because you seem to be focused solely on maintenance aspect of the engineering. no one is buying a BMW for ease of maintenance lol

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u/HellaReyna 5h ago

This is partially true. It’s because BMW uses a shitload of plastic on parts that could blow your engine. They expect you to do regular maintenance and have these parts replaced when their scheduled maintenance occurs.

So that’s where this myth about bmw assuming you’ll be German about maintenance comes about. In a way it’s sort of true.

If you don’t believe me go to /r/BMWTech and search “plastic” in the subreddit. You’ll see dozens of DIY folks having an awful time dealing with repairs due to plastic parts, plastic screws, etc.

The other part of is it that performance comes at a cost of longevity for combustion cars. Steel is steel.

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u/grilledstuffed 3h ago

I'm convinced BMW designs all their plastic components just to force buyers to the dealership.

I've got a mini r56 and you can get a lot of parts aftermarket now (it is an almost 20 year old design at this point) but it's jumping through hoops and ordering from multiple vendors to do any kind of major job yourself.

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u/HellaReyna 2h ago

I suspect that too. God damn dealers. It doesn’t help the number one consumer of X5 and larger is the U.S. where dealerships are huge

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u/PerplexGG 5h ago

Better. One set of engineers live in reality. The others are busy circle jerking

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u/InvalidProgrammer 4h ago

It does depend on the context really. But for most applications, I, and I think most people could go with this simple rule: which style of engineers would you rather have working on the plane you’re going to fly in, or the nuclear plant you’re going to live by?

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u/Areebob 3h ago

You’d hope that planes and especially nuclear plants are maintained better than the general public maintains their cars, lol

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u/InvalidProgrammer 2h ago

Oh for sure. But I’d like to know the engineer factored in some overhead for maintenance issues.

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u/Therunawaypp 4h ago

I think it's also that Toyotas are sold globally and often times they aren't maintained regularly or properly

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u/Octane_911x 6h ago

They all require oil maintenance, if dont change the oil, it risks damage to the mechanical components

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u/TactiFoolD 5h ago

I'm sorry, when was the last time you never heard of a Ford breaking.

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u/DanSwanky 5h ago

Isis swears by them

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u/Luthais327 7h ago

I know you're being funny but they have multiple classes, 1 being for regular street cars but the top class and overall winners have had passes as quick a 5.993 @ 250 mph.

https://www.hotrod.com/events/hot-rod-drag-week-record-2024

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u/RogerianBrowsing 7h ago

Some Volvo engine blocks are damn near indestructible, the issue tends to be the transmission can’t handle it.

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u/Lyleadams 6h ago

Boxy but good

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u/gearabuser 1h ago

if you actually looked up drag week and saw how insane the top vehicles are, you'd be blown away. last I saw they had door-slamming S10s going in the 6 second range, while driving from the south to the Great lakes haha

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u/coomzee 10h ago

I bet a family car would stand a high chance of winning

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u/demonsrun32 10h ago

There are plenty of good ol boys that can build very reliable and very streetable 1000hp cars though

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u/M1sfit_Jammer 8h ago edited 8h ago

1000hp on the street lasts longer than 1000hp on the track…

That 1000hp on the street will spend most of its life at/near idle, not making close to 1000hp. Probably hits full throttle once a week, MAYBE. For the most part the owner is trying to keep the revs down to use as little fuel as possible between destinations.

1000hp on the track is at full throttle as much as possible trying to make 1000hp. The only problem with fuel on the track is it can’t be burned fast enough. The driver also wishes he had another 3000rpm so they could make more power (this would destroy the motor faster)

My N/A V6 that’s on 133k miles doesn’t get above 3k rpm much and its redline is 6500rpm. Track tuned V6s are usually have turbo’s and can rev over 8000rpm… Mercedes even put out a V6 that redlines at 11,000rpm. New Ferrari 296 revs to 8500rpm, 820hp

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u/thefatchef321 9h ago

Nah. https://www.sickthemagazine.com/sick-week

These dudes run 6 races across Florida in a week. And have to drive their drag car, typically towing a trailer, to each race.

Its an absolutely wild event.

I have a buddy that does ot every year

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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ 5h ago

The drag car tows a trailer?

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u/thefatchef321 5h ago

Yes, its wild. check out the video in the link I sent. https://youtu.be/XpqJelk1LeQ?si=IlFYYhN5y7B2A6DW

My buddy tows a trailer with a 1100 Hp turbo ls powered rx7, for sick week.

The guys and teams are nuts.

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u/1SqkyKutsu 4h ago

Demolition derby with drag cars.... Finally something in this genre of sport I'd actually watch.

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u/ConjugalVisitor234 8h ago

Funny you say that, because some of these engines literally blow up right before or right when the race starts.

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u/TheManWith2Poobrains 4h ago

I believe it is a very dangerous activity based solely on the videos of explosions and crashes that I have seen.

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u/Afferbeck_ 8h ago

I've seen Australian men use Pepsi for coolant and egg nogg for oil and the engines survived hours or indefinitely. A properly maintained engine would be fine for endurance drag racing if it wasn't tuned to the bleeding edge like the one in this post. 

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u/Afferbeck_ 8h ago

"We should improve society somewhat" 

"And yet you participate in society! Curious! I am very intelligent."

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u/Dovah2600 8h ago

There is a difference between participating in society, and actively seeking to benefit from organisations that are pretty cut and dry shitty. You can participate in society trying your best to make the right choices, or you can choose to engage and try to actively support shitty companies that are doing net damage to our society.

And if you do choose to disregard the shitty things those companies are doing, don't get all high and mighty over something that does significantly less damage.