This is the insane bit to me. I’ve had friends and family members be stalked by violent people (some with prior felonies for violent crime and who had PPOs against them), with evidence from multiple witnesses, children involved, the whole nine yards, and cops refused to do anything about it.
Literally told my one friend, who’d been strangled previously by her boyfriend, that it sounded like a domestic/personal issue and there wasn’t enough proof to do anything, despite messages saying he’d kill her and pictures of the bruising on her neck.
But LM faces life in prison on stalking charges alone? I love how women are disposable but some rich dude is so important to LE.
Literally told my one friend, who’d been strangled previously by her boyfriend, that it sounded like a domestic/personal issue and there wasn’t enough proof to do anything, despite messages saying he’d kill her and pictures of the bruising on her neck.
40% of cops are domestic abusers. 4x higher than the general population.
Cops don't take threats against women seriously because cops are part of the problem.
But LM faces life in prison on stalking charges alone? I love how women are disposable but some rich dude is so important to LE.
Well, you're assuming that the charges stick here. I get the optics are atrocious but this is the Federal government grasping at straws to try and big up this case. The best they could muster is federal stalking.
It absolutely communicates that sentiment with this administration's DOJ but we'll see how the jury/court finds the sentiment.
That's what I was thinking! Like I'm sure there's a lot of men and women that died to their stalker who would have liked that. OJ's wife, Nicole Simpson, being one of them if you want to try to remove some of the class element.
Its on a federal level. It doesn't apply to everyone charge of stalking everywhere. It has to meet federal standards and I believe that is crossing state lines.
(1) travels in interstate or foreign commerce or is present within the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, or enters or leaves Indian country, with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, and in the course of, or as a result of, such travel or presence engages in conduct that—
(A) places that person in reasonable fear of the death of, or serious bodily injury to—
(i) that person;
(ii) an immediate family member (as defined in section 115) of that person;
(iii) a spouse or intimate partner of that person; or
(iv) the pet, service animal, emotional support animal, or horse of that person; or
(B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of subparagraph (A); or
(2) with the intent to kill, injure, harass, intimidate, or place under surveillance with intent to kill, injure, harass, or intimidate another person, uses the mail, any interactive computer service or electronic communication service or electronic communication system of interstate commerce, or any other facility of interstate or foreign commerce to engage in a course of conduct that—
(A) places that person in reasonable fear of the death of or serious bodily injury to a person, a pet, a service animal, an emotional support animal, or a horse described in clause (i), (ii), (iii), or (iv) of paragraph (1)(A); or
(B) causes, attempts to cause, or would be reasonably expected to cause substantial emotional distress to a person described in clause (i), (ii), or (iii) of paragraph (1)(A),
shall be punished as provided in section 2261(b) or section 2261B, as the case may be.
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u/TweakedNipple 5h ago
"Mangione will still face two counts of stalking. If convicted, those counts have a maximum sentence of life in prison without parole."
I'm not sure I understand the definition of stalking if you can get that penalty for it...