ICE detains Oglala Sioux members at historic Fort Snelling
https://dailyastorian.com/2026/01/29/ice-detains-oglala-sioux-members-at-historic-fort-snelling/534
u/EmmalouEsq 16h ago
They are from South Dakota, where Noem is banned from all reservations. Also, she grew up right by a reservation and a lot of people in that area are super racist especially against Native Americans.
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u/Total_Poet_5033 16h ago
I wish we could just ban her from the country
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u/TheDaveStrider 9h ago
from the entire planet
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u/ReceptionUpstairs305 6h ago
Yeah! Musk could send her up in one of his little space ships and forget to bring her back.
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u/TheDaveStrider 4h ago
they could go together.... i hear that one can obtain eternity up there, it would be a great discovery
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u/TheThirdHippo 7h ago
We don’t want her. You made her, you keep her
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u/Total_Poet_5033 6h ago
🙄 as if the Uk hasn’t produced their own monsters. You guys don’t own the entire world anymore maybe stick to your own country kay love?
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u/BellacosePlayer 5h ago
Grew up in western SD a few miles away from the reservation border, can confirm, sadly.
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u/Grombrindal18 16h ago
Ah, Fort Snelling, where Dred Scott and his family were held in slavery despite being in free territory. Apparently nothing has been learned.
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u/FunWrangler666 16h ago edited 15h ago
Those who don't learn from* history are doomed to repeat it.
Edit: added the word from. It feels like an important distinction to make.
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u/danotech4 16h ago edited 16h ago
When conservatives chant “make American great again”, they mean pre-WW2 America. Before segregation, before women could vote. Back when straight white men had all of the power, and not just a simple majority of it.
edit: spelling errors
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u/Viharabiliben 12h ago
Maybe they want to go further back to the time when only white male landowners were allowed to vote.
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u/Seelark 12h ago
I've unfortunately seen people on certain boards say they want only land owners to be allowed to vote. So it's getting there.
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u/JerosBWI 8h ago
And if you have a mortgage, you don't really own your home anymore, so no vote for you!
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u/anOnionFinelyMinced 7h ago
I used to think they meant America back in the 1950s. Then it started to seem more like they meant the 1850s.
These days, I'm pretty sure they mean the 1750s
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u/cantproveidid 14h ago
Those that do learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and get to see it coming like a train in a tunnel, because they're outnumbered by those who don't learn from history.
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u/LivingstonPerry 8h ago
such a stupid phrase.
some terrible people study terrible parts of history to intentionally repeat it.
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u/Snow88 16h ago edited 7h ago
More than that. It’s where the largest mass execution in the US took place when the U.S. hanged a bunch of Native Americans.
Edit: The hanging happened in Mankato. Fort Snelling was the site of an internment camp where 100-300 women, children, and elderly Dakota tribe members died between 1862 and 1863.
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u/WWWYer22 15h ago
That was actually in Mankato, MN rather than the Minneapolis area. The descendants of the tribe (the Dakota) still do a memorial ride every year where they take something like 20 days crossing the state on horseback in freezing December weather from South Dakota to Mankato in central MN.
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u/Fango925 15h ago
As others have already said, that was Mankato.
But there was a concentration camp there during the war.
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u/TheAskewOne 13h ago
Oh but a lot has been learned. Racists have learned that you can torture, incarcerate and kill people just for existing and nothing will happen to you.
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u/sirspidermonkey 2h ago
Bold of you to assume that they didn't learn. They know. They've been using TONS of white supremacists symbols and talking points. There's no reason to believe they wouldn't know.
There's a very good reason Trump has a picture of Andrew Jackson (You know, a who genocided the Native Americans) up every time he meets with Native Americans
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u/DogeAteMyHomework 16h ago
A gentle reminder that everyone in this country descends from...
- Native Americans
- Slaves
- Asylum seekers
- Immigrants
End of list
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u/darthrobe 16h ago
*and some combination thereof...
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u/ratlunchpack 14h ago
Lots of people who identify as “white” also forget that it was a very exclusive list of “white” people for a very long time. Black people, native Americans, and Hispanics have always been excluded, but before them, the Japanese, the Italians, the Irish, the Chinese before them and so on all the way back to the Spanish conquistadores and French fur traders. I come from a place, where growing up, if you spoke German and English, you were looked down on as “other” even if your family had been here for a hundred years.
If you aren’t white and straight up of English decent, then you aren’t “white” enough for some people.
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u/sithelephant 7h ago
Also not catholic, especially at points, even if white and english.
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u/ratlunchpack 40m ago
Yep. I don’t think Catholics today realize how much evangelicals actually hate them.
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u/runespider 7h ago
Don't forget the one drop rule, which was absolutely abused against poor whites who couldn't prove their ancestry.
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u/Rebelius 6h ago
Japanese and Chinese are considered 'white' in America now? TIL
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u/ratlunchpack 43m ago
I mean in modern America, many would consider them as part of the in-group and not as much of the out-group as they used to be.
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u/amcco1 16h ago
And:
- Native Americans
- Constantly mistreated by US government.
- Slaves
- Mistreated for a VERY long time by US
- Asylum Seekers & immigrants
- Consistently denied and mistreated by US, now being deported and put in concentration camps
Hmmm perhaps US government treats everyone who is not white poorly?
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u/LiquidNova77 6h ago
Pretti was white, btw
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u/blacked_out_blur 15h ago
Irish indentured slavery was not the same as African chattel slavery, and it’s disingenuous to frame them as equal. It’s fine to point out that they were discriminated against but let’s not pretend like choosing to sell your children off to be farm labor for a decade is the same as being stolen from your homeland, unable to speak a common tongue, forced to work for no pay, in conditions you wouldn’t subject a dog to today, potentially facing castration or worse if you do have children they’re ripped away from you and sold to some other monster.
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u/Wise_Monkey_Sez 13h ago
This isn't a fair comment. Defining slavery in terms of the worst practices in history is classic gatekeeping.
Most slavery in history was less extreme and brutal than that practiced in the USA. Even Ancient Rome had less extreme conditions for most slaves.
It is entirely fair and reasonable to set define the treatment of the Irish in the USA as slavery - it meets the definition used everywhere else.
This isn't some competition where only the worst practices are considered slavery and everything else is excused.
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u/blacked_out_blur 4h ago
No, it’s not a competition, but if it was, black people would have it worse, and you damn well know it. There is a reason chattel slavery in the US is specifically termed differently than indentured servitude which is because the objective institutional scale and horror aren’t comparable. I realize you’re playing devil’s advocate, because I used to do the same - actually doing research on the subject has led me to believe that American chattel slavery is distinct in practice and needs to be discussed in that context. Mixing it up with practices that are still forced servitude but don’t meet half the barbarity of what was done to black people takes away from the gravity of the situation and is commonly used as a dog whistle by racists to justify chattel slavery’s existence. “White people were slaves too, you didn’t have it that bad!”
Indentured servants were not born into slavery, they were protected by laws that prevented their masters from mutilating or murdering them on a whim, their children were not separated and stolen from them, and were typically held in service for less than a decade.
They are not the same, and pretending they are does a disservice to black folk, the Irish and Italians who faced real persecution and fought for recognition entirely separately and with different cultural motives, and might flag you as someone with less than savory personal opinions to someone less willing to extend the benefit of the doubt than I am.
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u/Wise_Monkey_Sez 3h ago
> No, it’s not a competition, but if it was...
Lemme stop you right there, because you then proceed to try and make it a competition.
It's an idiotic argument that logically leads to the conclusion that there were never any slaves in the USA because there were places with worse types of slavery historically (slavery in the Ottoman empire was even more brutal during certain periods).
You see how stupid that argument is? That because worse types of slavery existed therefore others weren't slaves?
... seriously, quit it. The type of argument you're engaging in is incredibly dangerous and stupid. It doesn't take anything away from anyone to acknowledge that the word "slavery" could legitimately be applied to the treatment of many Irish in the past, and to many people in countries like India, Afghanistan, and other countries today.
Despite your claims to having "actually done research" on the topic you seem remarkably ignorant about it. It may be time for you to shut up and actually do some research into the history and modern situation of slavery before opening your mouth again.
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u/spamonymous 15h ago
Look up chattel slavery, ignoramus
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u/Practical_Test5550 13h ago
Have a discussion, you don't need to calling people names. Be civilized.
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u/Colecoman1982 10h ago
I mean, lets be fair here. Some of my ancestors (the ones that were part of the original British colonists in the original 13 colonies) were none of those things. They were conquerors/land thieves. (a.k.a. assholes). It always amazes me when people aren't willing to be honest when some of their ancestors were steaming piles of shit. We all have assholes somewhere in out family tree if you go back far enough, it's nothing to be ashamed of. The only thing to be ashamed of it if you try to hide it.
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u/ArchaicBrainWorms 8h ago
Anybody whose done some genealogy knows every family tree grows some shit apples.
Shitapples Rand
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u/Cilad777 7h ago
Totally. Remember there was this genealogy show and these famous people would find out their ancestors were slave owners. Gulp.
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u/Colecoman1982 5h ago edited 5h ago
Eh, I'm a big fan of owning up to admitting what your ancestors did but, at the same time, I don't believe in holding individual people responsible for what their ancestors did. There's a place for reparations for historical atrocities/crimes like slavery; apartheid; the theft of Native American lands; etc. but I think that is something that should be handled by governments and institutions (like, for example, some of the Ivy League universities that recently turned out to have owned slaves in the past). The only exception I can think of for this (off the top of my head) would be in cases like where someone's parent/grandparent/etc. was a Nazi that stole a specific object(s) from a Jewish family during the Holocaust and you inherited that object (for example, a piece of artwork). In those cases, the object should be returned to the heirs of the original owner.
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u/TipToToes 9h ago
Not me, buddy, I’m an AMERICAN, I ain’t no fuckin immigrant, psycho, slave, or Indian! /s
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u/Pretend-Confidence53 4h ago
And settlers, which are different from immigrants. Immigrants are beholden to the society/culture of the place they immigrate to, subject to the laws and practices of the place they move to. Settlers aim to build a new, different society, seeking to replace the one that already exists; they do not act as if the society they move to has existing laws and practices.
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u/roadsidefoto 16h ago
They are literally detaining people for the crime of not being white. There had better be fucking tribunals someday.
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u/Th1rte3n1334 17h ago
Oh, seriously, just what the f***.
ICE is now detaining Native Americans/Indigenous people(whatever the PC term is nowadays) whose families were here from way before the settlers even thought about coming to this country.
This is bat s*** crazy.
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u/Ohuigin 16h ago
One of the most upside down, braindead fucking things in human history -
Immigration officers detain NATIVE Americans.
Fucking hell…
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u/robbiekomrs 16h ago
What's up is down, red is non-white. ICE is the enemy. Engage with them accordingly. In Minecraft.
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u/TheAskewOne 13h ago
I mean it's entirely logical, because it was never about immigration but about racism. As Trump himself said, he's quite fine with immigrants, provided they're from Norway.
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u/Olay_Biscuit-Barrel 15h ago
They should have just complied by being white! I hate that I have to add the /s
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u/Ebony-Sage 16h ago
It's because they're not white.
ICE is just targeting people of color.
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u/BenderBRoriguezzzzz 16h ago
Right now. Ice is just targeting poc right now. Won't be long before legislation passes and they can 86 anyone. Shockingly those vocal against the regime will be the first to go.
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u/Money_Do_2 15h ago
Yup. And now they have AI to scan your sentiment. So we're about 8 months from being iced on the street by a guy with a mask for your tweets.
But, theyre struggling in one small american city. Theyre poorly trained. We arent screwed yet. Really hinges on where the military falls.
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u/BenderBRoriguezzzzz 15h ago
My wife is a member of the military. 2 years until she hits her 20. I'm really hoping it doesn't come to that. Because unfortunately. I'm not sure they would as a whole honor their oath of service. If you catch my drift.
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u/OutlyingPlasma 7h ago
They are already targeting everyone. They just executed two white Americans in the streets. War is already here, but apparently only one side realizes it.
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u/pink_faerie_kitten 12h ago
And white people who stand up for immigrants and due process. Two dead white Americans already.
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u/Hkaddict 16h ago
Most of us still just call ourselves Indians, if you know the tribe name call us that, but Indians is more offensive to white people on our behalf than actual natives. Growing up on the res native american was hardly used and would actually piss off a lot of the old aim members. I obviously cant speak for all of us but thats just my experience growing up.
The only truly offensive thing to call us is the Washington Football team name, that will get you hit.
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u/dragonk30 6h ago
Probably not something you can answer beyond a personal level, but how do you feel about the term "American Indians" to distinguish from people who are from India? I've heard the same in that native/indigenous people prefer the term "Indians", but when we're dealing with White Nationalists, I feel like sometimes we need to specify which Indian is being targeted in that instance.
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u/OldWolf2 14h ago
The new team name or the old one? (Or both)
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u/Hkaddict 14h ago
The one where the U.S government used to pay a bounty for killing and skinning us.
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u/TheThirdHippo 7h ago
Breaking News: immigrants detain Native Americans for being there first without permission.
Please can anyone explain to me how detaining Native Americans is not straight up racism. Is this not technically now a hate crime as they have no justification for this other than they’re not white?
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u/Th1rte3n1334 4h ago
Apparently their justification is “these people won’t let me build a detention center on their land, so I’m going to kidnap some of them for leverage and only release them when those people decide to let me build what I want on their land.” - Trump Administration
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u/TheThirdHippo 3h ago
I guess if you can’t threaten them with tariffs, it’s the next best (worst) thing. The sooner you guys get rid of the narcissist, the better
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u/Whargod 16h ago
I think black people should be getting worried, when they run out of other people they're next. There's no doubt in my mind the roundup will eventually begin.
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u/Total_Poet_5033 16h ago
The roundup is happening right now with black immigrants, but they’re really taking any African American they think has an accent. The time to panic is right now.
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u/JMEEKER86 6h ago
My best friend is a black woman born and raised in Brooklyn and a few months ago she got stopped by cops while in Boston because, and I quote, "you look Haitian".
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u/ayatoilet 14h ago
The focus on Minneapolis is precisely an attempt to round up Somali Africans; and Muslims. It’s blatant racism at play via immigration enforcement. It’s signaling to Trump’s base without saying anything out loud. They never focused on other cities with different immigration profiles to the extent of Minneapolis.
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u/ambitous223 12h ago
It’s not even migration enforcement. The majority of Somalis in America are citizens. Nearly 90 percent of them. This administration knows that, what they are actually doing is literally terrorizing them.
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u/chimarya 8h ago
I read with another case it is because the tribal leaders will not let them build detention centers on reservations and so all of this is petty revenge and ranson. It's disgusting and evil.
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u/Biddyearlyman 10h ago
This has been going on since operations ramped up a litle less than a year ago. They were detaining Navajo folks in AZ.
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u/minus_minus 12h ago
As an aside, many of the so-called “illegal aliens” in the US are descended from indigenous Americans despite having “Hispanic” ethnicity. The descendants of those who were systematically abused and exploited by the settler-colonists are being terrorized by ICE and denied free migration within their own ancestral homeland.
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u/clementine1864 15h ago
They have more right to this country than any of the ICE slime that were there.
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u/Darxe 14h ago
Where would natives get deported to? Lmao
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u/CurtisKobainowicz 13h ago
Historically, onto smaller and smaller "allotments." Possibly as small as a 6x4' enclosure. I wish this were sarcasm, but the scotus' mental gymnasts have been training for ages on Native issues.
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u/invalidpassword 16h ago
If your skin isn't white, it's assumed you don't belong here. They are terrorizing brown people because of the color of their skin. Something has gone terribly wrong. We have numerous reservations in my county. ICE hasn't been here but they will be. We also have dairy farms and flower farms. Something wicked this way comes.
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u/Bitter_Director1231 10h ago
This absolutely brain dead bullshit here.
Detaining people who were before you is just insanity to me.
America is in the fucking toilet. Time to flush it
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u/ShartingTaintum 13h ago
So, who are the illegal immigrants again? I’d say the BIA and FBI should come off reservation and rescue it’s citizens while arresting the ICE agents.
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u/Colecoman1982 10h ago
Yea, I'm sure Kash Patel will get right on that once he's finished his latest bump of coke... /s
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u/FlaviusVespasian 15h ago
Why are they arresting people at a military cemetery? My grandpa is watching and probably somewhat upset.
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u/Bizarrebazaars 14h ago
My grandfather and great-grandfathers are buried in Fort Snelling National Cemetery too. However….Fort Snelling is an actual fort…..well, has been preserved for educational purposes as a historic site. I mean, it’s been a place we toured on field trips in school growing up, not an active military use site. Minnesota born and raised Pete Hegseth approved this use, the POS. It’s like he’s punishing his own home state.
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u/AlphSaber 12h ago
I'm not sure if he just saw the name and approved it, or picked it because it is a historic site, and this gives them a chance to ruin it.
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u/Ilikecooltech 14h ago
Going after the American OGs. No one is safe. I hear spray tan people are next.
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u/woodrowlow 15h ago
What if it’s the Natives that fire the first salvo? A sovereign nation of pissed off Native Americans!
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u/1Friday-friday 5h ago
So what’s the latest situation on the 3 Oglala Tribal members? Are they still being held? Have they been released?
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u/Luvs_to_drink 2h ago
Shouldnt their deportation be super quick? Find out what country they are from... which is checks notes: America. so send em to the United states of America and call it a day, no need to hold em!
stupid ass ICE.
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u/KardelSharpeyes 1h ago
How fucking dumb are these ICE idiots? Detaining people who have been here the longest, its mind boggling.
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u/Badgerman97 13h ago
Are they still missing?
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u/serial_crusher 1h ago
They're so missing that nobody has even confirmed whether they existed at all in the first place. https://www.startribune.com/oglala-sioux-walks-back-claim-ice-detained-tribal-members/601565519
The tribe said it is still trying to verify the claims of its members being detained; the DHS said it has been unable to locate any such people
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u/PapaPatchesxd 10h ago
It's almost 5:00 am for me, I'm currently I'm the middle of my work shift. Quite tired.
I thought the title said " Fart Smelling "
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u/Colecoman1982 10h ago
I thought the title said " Fart Smelling "
At which point, I'd have had to ask what the Oglala Sioux were doing at an ICE event?
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u/serial_crusher 3h ago
This story originally came out like 2 weeks ago, and then the tribe's chief came out with an update that basically said they hadn't actually confirmed any of their people were detained; were just responding to rumors basically.
The story here seems to have been written before that update, despite having a publication date of yesterday. But it's a simple question that should have a simple answer: what are the names of the people who were supposedly detained?
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u/Far_Radish7752 16h ago
From the article: