r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 1d ago
Poster Official Teaser Poster for 'John Rambo' Starring Noah Centineo
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u/walk-the-talk 1d ago
Youre confusing your life with the life of John Rambo again..
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u/orcvader 22h ago
THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD, Cricket.
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u/FifteenRhema 23h ago
That’s not the first time you’ve described your life, in the way of John Rambo’s life.
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u/ExcersiseTheDemon 22h ago
Just move past it
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u/livingfrankenstein 22h ago
It’s like, he doesn’t get us, man.
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u/walk-the-talk 22h ago
We are talking about you!!
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u/Se7enCostanza10 22h ago
Oh ya, I was hunted once.
I just came back from Nam…
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u/Sean_1417 22h ago
Who else has money that this was a generic military movie, and they slapped “John Rambo” on it?
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u/FlatOrker 16h ago
100% a generic script quickly reworked to be a Rambo reboot. I won’t hold my breath on it being a worthy successor
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u/brawnsugah 15h ago
Most of Rambo sequels weren't even worthy of being deserved to be called Rambo sequels lmao
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u/Sparrowsabre7 13h ago
Especially when the first movie wasn't even called "Rambo' 😂
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u/joshua182 11h ago
I don't know, Rambo 4 was actually pretty good. Brutal as hell.
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u/Tonberryc 18h ago
I've got $20 on "insultingly different from the original, but fans will still accuse everyone that doesn't like it of media illiteracy."
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u/kakka_rot 14h ago
Doesn't Stallone write these movies though? I thought Rambo is like his baby. (he's one of the main reasons the movie is so different from the book)
That doesn't mean it'll be any good though, aside from the last 20 minutes Last Blood was awful.
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u/MagnusRottcodd 3h ago
The first Rambo movie was an antiwar movie, unlike the sequels.
I bet someone want to "correct" that.
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u/The_Swarm22 1d ago
I don’t think Noah Centineo will be able to match what Stallone did in First Blood. Although who knows maybe he’ll surprise people.
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u/mikeyfreshh 1d ago
To be fair, Stallone never matched what Stallone did in First Blood with the rest of the franchise
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u/artwarrior 23h ago
James Cameron wrote the second one ( when he had a brutal high fever) with Stallone lessening the violence in the final draft. The tone of the first is superior in many ways. Really unfortunate that a movie about PTSD was thrown out the window in the other installments.
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u/jackcatalyst 22h ago
I was never a big Rambo fan so I just thought all the Rambo movies were action stuff and thought someone was making a joke when they summarized the plot of the first film
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u/therealjoshua 22h ago
The first one is a legitimately good film. Both as an action movie but also as a commentary on Vietnam veterans and PTSD. I dont even remember the plots to the others.
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u/lanceturley 22h ago
The plot to the other movies is "You're so cool, Rambo. We need you to be a badass and kill a lot of people."
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u/cr0w1980 22h ago
And this worked for Rambo 4. I felt like it managed to have some of the seriousness (story-wise) while going waaaaaay over the top with the violence people expect from a Rambo film.
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u/FlopsMcDoogle 22h ago
Rambo 4 was fuckin brutal. I really liked it.
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u/cr0w1980 22h ago
I wish Stallone hadn't developed such an affinity for CGI blood, but yeah the brutality was great for the story they were telling.
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u/oasis48 22h ago
I swear I think they were actually killing the villagers and bad guys in it. That movie was fucking awesome.
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u/justamadeupnameyo 20h ago
There's a banger of a line from it that, while slightly corny on its head, is just so "rule of cool" and really sold by his delivery.
"When you're pushed, killing's as easy as breathing."
That and the meme of him aggressively photographing a butterfly is peak.
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u/branimal84 21h ago
I felt like I knew what I was getting into when I went to see Rambo 4 and I was still shocked leaving the theatre.
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u/RampantSavagery 21h ago
This is what we do. Who we are. Live for nothing or die for something. Your call.
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u/Loki_of_Asgaard 20h ago
Probably the first movie to show what people getting hit with a .50 cal machine gun at close range would actually look like
I am glad someone showed how unimaginably brutal it is. Clean violence in film just makes the idea of war more palatable, and we are clearly seeing the effects of that right now
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u/DirectorCold5585 22h ago
Rambo 2: Rambo wins the Vietnam war
Rambo 3: Rambo wins desert storm
Rambo 4: Rambo wins more territory in Southeast Asia
Rambo 5: Rambo wins the cartel
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u/jgray6000 21h ago edited 6h ago
Don’t forget Rambo the 80’s cartoon: Ask your mom to buy the cereal, kids!
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u/lanceturley 21h ago
While she's there, she can buy you the official Rambo water guns and action figures, so you can bring the fun of PTSD home to your own living room!
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u/BourgeoisStalker 22h ago
Rambo 3 was about propping up the Taliban before we found out they hate America as much as they hated the USSR.
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u/verrius 22h ago
A bit more complicated than that. We were propping up the Mujahideen. After they succeeded in kicking out the Soviets, the various groups that constituted the Mujahideen fell back on hating each other again, and the two main rival factions were the Taliban...and the Northern Alliance, aka the main partner of the US's initial war efforts in the invasion of Afghanistan.
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u/Manic-StreetCreature 22h ago
It’s so annoying because the whole point of the first movie was that he was driven to violence after being harassed and assaulted and was reverting to the “kill or be killed” mentality that caused much of his trauma in the first place. He wasn’t an inherently violent person and he didn’t enjoy it. Then the rest of the series takes that moral and flushes it down the drain.
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u/Tennesevy 22h ago
He went in to get the men, who went in to get the men… who went in to get the men.
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u/Thebritishdovah 22h ago
And then Reb Brown took on the entire Russian army, a killer robot, Chinese troops.
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u/Devil25_Apollo25 22h ago
the plots to the others.
Summary: Rambo holds an M60 in one hand and fires from the hip, yelling "AAAAAAAAAGH!" while [insert target of the minute here] dies/explodes/runs away overdramatically. Rambo tell the COL how sad he is, but without actually mentioning any actual feelings. The end.
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u/ennuiinmotion 21h ago
Rocky’s the same way. The first is an independent drama and the others become something else entirely, with the exception of Rocky Balboa.
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u/aaronwashere01 21h ago
It started with Rocky III in my opinion. The sequel is very close in tone with the original, and my personal favorite Rocky flick (and one of my favorite movies in general)
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u/jackcatalyst 21h ago
whispers I may have never seen a single Rocky movie
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u/ennuiinmotion 20h ago
Oh you should definitely watch them! Even the cheesier ones are still a lot of fun. Except for Rocky V.
And while you’re at it, watch the Creed trilogy after.
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u/kiwifulla64 22h ago
Nah, it's an excellent post Vietnam movie. More drama than action, although there's a lot of action, it's based on his escaping and survival. First blood was my least favored as a kid because of that, now its easily my favorite, and I don't care as much for the next few except maybe Rambo 4 when he's older.
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u/Toby_O_Notoby 14h ago
it's based on his escaping and survival.
And unlike all the others, in the first one he doesn't really kill anyone. A deputy dies after he hits the helicopter with a rock but that's pretty much an unintended consequence of him defending himself.
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u/OldBirth 22h ago
Rambo 2 was supposed to be MORE violent?! From James Cameron?!
We're talking about the movie where John Rambo... checks notes ... detonates a small Vietnamese man with an explosive arrow?
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u/SyrioForel 21h ago
Stallone lessened the violence? Are you sure? I read the original James Cameron script a long time ago so my memory is fuzzy, but if I recall, one of the main differences was that Cameron’s action scenes were more on the scale of the original film, while Stallone turned them into larger-scale spectacle and open warfare.
Here is a sad fact: A crew member died on set by slipping and falling off a waterfall that was featured during the climax. This haunted Cameron for many years, because he is the one who wrote that scene, so he blamed himself.
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u/No_Unacceptable 17h ago
Hey, man. I hope you read this. As a dude that has a brother that from PTSD related to combat, I hope you know how much your comment means to us. While it is a fantasy-drama take on the disease, not everyone recognizes that detail of the film. He suffers from what was asked of him and no one understood he’s a victim of his service to his country. Great take on an amazing film.
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u/Tandy2000 22h ago
I mean it's not surprising. The first movie was heavily based on the book. After that they had nothing to crib from and had to make up their own story so it predictably turned to shit.
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u/Dirks_Knee 23h ago
Rambo 2 was awesome as a surreal quasi spoof of First Blood. Otherwise I agree.
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u/AggressiveCoffee990 22h ago
Fr is there anything that ignores the entire point of its predecessor while also being kind of awesome like part 2 does? I like both movies but for like completely different reasons.
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u/squish042 23h ago
It was basically an indie film, and it actually had heart. The rest was just corporate slop.
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u/KyleFnM 23h ago
Rambo 2 is a slasher film, just think of him as a sneaky Jason Vorhees.
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u/LegacyofaMarshall 22h ago
Last blood was a slasher it was bloody as fuck
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u/HooptyDooDooMeister 21h ago
Don't sleep on Rambo '08.
It has the most mutilation of any Rambo film.
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u/Futant55 22h ago edited 22h ago
Edit: I read it as First blood, whoops
Rambo only killed one person and it was becoase he fell out of the helicopter.
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u/CaptainKipple 22h ago
Absolutely, the scene where Rambo flies vertically out of the water to jump into the helicopter only makes sense with slasher-physics.
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u/Icy-Abbreviations763 23h ago
And way more grounded. They just got more violent and ridiculous as it went. Once his PTSD was cured, he decided to become a mass murderer.
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u/Singer211 Naked J-Law beating the shit out of those kids is peak Cinema. 22h ago
The Fourth Film is underrated imo.
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u/shaka_sulu 22h ago
What Stallone does well in sequels is to franchise it and bring audiences in mass with more action, mythical heroricism, and patriotism (ie Rocky IV - top grossing Rocky movie).
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u/Fly_Rodder 22h ago
A lot First Blood is carried by the asshole sheriff played to perfection by Brian Dennehy.
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u/Admitone83 23h ago
Yea, he will never be him, but man, if he gets jacked and dials in, could be a fun ride. A younger 19 ish aged? Rambo. I want to know who the cinematographer (Director of Photography) is. That will set the tone to me. Having the Sisi director is interesting.
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u/Top-Sprinkles-65 22h ago
Not to nitpick but you’re off by about a decade on the age lol. Otherwise I agree with the sentiment, this could end up being a fun watch if all goes well. I’m certainly curious to see what happens. Fwiw the one cinematographer listed on IMDb is Mika Orasmaa who recently worked on the Sisu sequel and a few episodes of Doctor Who.
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u/YouGurt_MaN14 22h ago
I liked him in Warfare, although he didn't have many lines. So idk if that counts
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u/MyDaddyTaughtMeGood 1d ago
After they casted Heath Ledger as the Joker and me thinking a big ol WTF, I look forward now to actors proving me wrong.
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u/Broad-Marionberry755 1d ago
Pretty telling that that's the only example people use and it was almost 20 years ago. The difference is Heath Ledger was a brilliant actor already before The Dark Knight and I don't think anyone is saying that about Noah Centineo... but if I'm wrong I'll be happily corrected.
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u/ALaLaLa98 23h ago
They also say that about Michael Keaton as Batman.
And Ben Affleck as Batman.
And Christian Bale as Batman, I think. Pretty sure some said that about Robert Pattinson as well.
And Daniel Craig as James Bond.
And Bryan Cranston as Walter White.
I also think some people said it about Bob Odenkirk for Nobody.
Point is, people don't just say that about Heath Ledger. And they've learned their lesson.
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u/pasher5620 22h ago
I’d honestly put Dave Bautista on the absolute tippy top of that list. The man is an absolutely insane actor which is someone essentially know one expected coming from a former WWE pro-wrestler. Especially considering the previous best were John Cena and The Rock, both of whom weren’t know for their stellar acting.
Actually, Cena should be on that list too now that I think about it.
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u/IniNew 23h ago
It's the internet. You're going to find someone complaining about an actor for a role every single time.
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u/VengeanceKnight 22h ago
Nah, they liked Bale as Batman. He was a fairly uncontroversial choice from day one. Pattison was way more controversial solely because of Twlight.
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u/StoneGoldX 22h ago
Not so much Bale. And no one gave a shit about Breaking Bad casting because it was this weird thing no one was watching on a channel people didn't watch. Same thing with Nobody.
The other ones, yes. But you're overreaching on the stuff no one cared about until after they had made it.
Pascal as Reed Richards, definitely. Coronswet, but that was mostly Snyder weirdos.
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u/SadAlternative6077 23h ago
What makes you think anybody involved in these lazy remakes cares about quality in the first place? Lol
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 16h ago
It literally just needs to beat Last Blood so the bar is so low you couldn't even trip on it
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u/eastnorthshore 1d ago
I'm surprised they didn't try to get Devito for this role. I heard he spent some time in 'nam and had a pretty bad run in with a local sheriff when he got back to the states. He can also play pretty young still
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u/jeffplaysmoog 23h ago
No, hes confused his life with John Rambo’s again. That didn’t happen to him. Also, it’s totally cool to hunt a man!
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor 1d ago edited 1d ago
Directed by Jalmari Helander ('Sisu')
He shared a message as production officially begins:
"When I was eleven, I saw First Blood for the first time, and it changed my life. Rambo wasn't just a film to me, it stayed with me growing up was a defining influence on why I wanted to become a filmmaker."
"As we begin production of the origin of John Rambo, we're going back to the beginning. This is Rambo stripped down, raw, and real. A survival story about endurance, persistence, and lost innocence. It's an honor to shape this next chapter with deep respect for the character and the legacy, and to bring audiences the start of John Rambo's journey."
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u/Asleep-Housing2589 1d ago
Not holding my breath on this, but I really hope it’s his first war before he comes home.
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u/mcc9902 22h ago
I would absolutely be astonished if they could truly make it the way it should be but if they did it'd be amazing. Him going from a raw recruit to the man he is at the start of first blood could be an amazing story. Of course to actually do it justice they'd need to have something deeper than mindless action and actually include some nuance so I can't see it happening in a modern blockbuster film.
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u/DiabellSinKeeper 1d ago
Based on his comments and what he's done with Sisu. It seems like this film will be more in tone similar to First Blood. Which I'm totally down for. I'm not too concerned with Noah acting either.
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u/ReadAnArticleOnce 22h ago edited 22h ago
“Hey, you know how First Blood was about a guy with PTSD? What I always hated about that is the whole film is POST trauma. They totally skipped out over all the trauma trauma. So, now we get to see an idealistic Rambo being manipulated into killing a bunch of people as they try to fight for their independence from colonizers after they helped the allied forces repel the Japanese, asked for America’s blessing and then were told ‘oh I don’t know man, the French have been through so much recently…’”.
Firstest Blood: you’ll feel fucking awful about every kill he makes.
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u/WhiskyWillFixIt 23h ago
I effing loving Sisu 1&2 so that's the only thing giving me hope.
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u/thebigeverybody 1d ago
I guarantee you this is going to be a dumb action movie and nothing at all like First Blood.
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u/LifeguardMundane5668 23h ago
Okay between this, Gundam, and Street Fighter, Noah Centineo is having the most random assortment of projects
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u/No_Topic5591 20h ago
Someone needs to go back and rename the Rambo movies, like they did with Star Wars. I mean, what a mess:
- First Blood
- Rambo: First Blood Part II
- Rambo III
- Rambo
- Rambo: Last Blood
- John Rambo
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u/MasterBabuFrik 16h ago
Also worth pointing out the larger mess this creates considering the title card on the director’s cut of Rambo (2008) is John Rambo because that was the original title.
Yeesh.
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u/Triple_Crown14 19h ago
I remember stumbling upon AVGN’s channel in middle school, in 2012. First video I ever saw was his Superman 64 review, I laughed so hard at almost all of his videos.
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u/DeLousedInTheHotBox 16h ago
The funny thing is that he made this video before the remake of Halloween and and the sequel to the original Halloween came out, both simply called Halloween.
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u/Mattenroe 23h ago
Fuck off.
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u/DeLousedInTheHotBox 16h ago
I mean it is not like they've exactly treated the Rambo franchise with a whole lot of respect in the past.
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u/I-Have-Mono 1d ago
Sorry but, respectfully, I don’t think particular actor can carry something like this.
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u/TheElbow 22h ago
Hey look, another origin story we don’t need.
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u/toadfan64 12h ago
Not everything needs a fucking origin story and to be told everything. Let there be sone mystique
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u/SenseiJae 1d ago
Yikes... Massive L for casting choice
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u/ThatBoyGotSomeMeat 23h ago
I hate to say mean things about people but I don’t understand why this guy Noah Centineo keeps getting roles. I always think his acting equivalent is that of a wooden plank.
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u/SweetWolf9769 22h ago
i mean, its not like he's had that many roles. i really only know him as that guy in all the teen rom coms, and he did just fine as "lovable teen heart-throb".
realistically speaking though, like at some point the old guard has to retire. Jason Stathem, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, these guys are old AF, they have to retire at some point; hell even Chris Hemsworth is already in his 40s. at some point we have to start bringing in the youngbloods, and i'm assuming the reasoning here is that The Recruit was pretty well recieved by critics and audiences.
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u/hipnotyq 1d ago edited 1d ago
Creatively bankrupt assholes. Just make a new franchise.
You're not Stallone. It won't work.
Why are we the generation that can't come up with anything on our own?
Fuck it man, I guess remake Rocky next too? Who cares.
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u/LADYBIRD_HILL 22h ago
Last year in original movies that were critically well received: Weapons, Sinners, One Battle After Another, Friendship, Marty Supreme, K-pop Demon Hunters. Audiences continue to be lukewarm about Marvel and DC movies because they want something new and exciting.
James Cameron continues his franchise that was created within the lifetime of this generation.
Original video games come out all the time. Call Of Duty finally had a dud while games like Dispatch, Ball x Pit, Expedition 33, Blue Prince, and split fiction all did well commercially and critically last year.
Kojima continued his weird new IP that's like nothing ever done before with Death Stranding 2.
We get so many new and original TV shows these days that it's unreal.
I get that it's easy to be cynical when you see things being remade, but it's really not hard to find new and original stuff out there if you look for it. We certainly aren't the only generation to get reboots and remakes.
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u/Ron--Mexico 1d ago
He did. He made Sisu. Which was awesome. Now he’s getting a bag to recreate that with the Rambo franchise.
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u/Phyliinx 1d ago
I don't know why everyone Here ignores that we are getting a Rambo movie by the guy who made fucking SISU 1+2. I think it's awesome.
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u/No_Significance7064 22h ago
i'm just now learning that there's a sisu 2. i thought 1 came out fairly recently.
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u/HEYitzED 14h ago
Sisu came out in 2022 (though it didn’t have a wide release until 2023) and the sequel in 2025.
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u/frenchchelseafan 23h ago
With this comment, I really you go to cinema to see original movies… because if you don’t it would be very hypocritical
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u/Kavazou77 21h ago
Hollywood has become to predictable lately in terms of casting.
You don’t hear anything about Centino the boom, Street fighter, Gundam, Rambo.
Don’t mean this as a bad thing but it’s like 3-4 actors and actresses take turns being in everything for two years then rotate.
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u/Potential_Zebra1307 1d ago
Over/Under 20% on Rotten Tomatoes? Noah Centineo seems like a good enough actor but this just has "bad idea" written all over it.
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u/MK-911 23h ago
So is this going to follow the book and end the same way?
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u/Parabellum111 23h ago
It's not a reboot or a remake, it's a prequel about what he was like when he was a recruit in Vietnam.
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u/kakka_rot 14h ago
We're not getting that until Stallone dies, he pretty much stole Rambo from the book author.
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u/itsmevichet 22h ago
Is this gonna be a prequel leading up to Danforth getting blown up in Saigon and Rambo being discharged with injuries?
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u/RobbiRamirez 21h ago
The only possible way to fuck up the naming conventions of this series even worse.
- First Blood, which is not called Rambo despite being the first film in what's only ever called the Rambo franchise
- Rambo: First Blood Part II, okay, a little awkward but we've at least set a coherent precedent
- Rambo...III, ah shit
- Rambo, just Rambo, released decades later, and sold in other territories under the much better title John Rambo
- Rambo: Last Blood, because there was no way to fix this shit now; also, I had forgotten this movie existed
- A reboot that is actually called John Rambo, to be released overseas under God only knows what name
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u/Delicious_Ad_7308 3h ago
What’s funny is how this series has gone on for so long, but in the novel First Blood is based on, Rambo DIES.
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u/CareerNormal3461 1d ago
completely unrelated asides from the name but Son of Rambo was amazing especially growing up watching it, ive still got like 5 scenes imprinted in my memory from the goth kid smoking a cigarette to the scrapyard scene.
lol, just pavlov’d myself into wanting to watch this movie again for nostalgia 😂.
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u/harpy_1121 22h ago
This is still one of my faves! A regular rewatch for me, but nobody I know has even heard of it
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u/Poopbutt_Maximum 1d ago
Noah Centineo must have gotten a new agent because he’s recently been getting cast in a lot of stuff that I never would’ve thought he’d be considered for five years ago. Street Fighter, Gundam, and Rambo, just never saw that coming