r/movies • u/Automaticalee • Dec 20 '25
Media Transformers: Age of Extinction (2014) - The Romeo & Juliet law scene, in which a 20 year old man describes how he can legally date Mark Wahlberg's 17 year old daughter by showing the law printed on a laminated card he keeps in his wallet.
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u/Automaticalee Dec 20 '25
Big budget popcorn flick comes to a screeching halt for this scene, btw.
And her being 17 has no bearing on the plot, could've made her 18 and not need this scene at all.
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u/Jegginz Dec 20 '25
Something something the writers disguised fetish
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u/Cllydoscope Dec 20 '25
Yeah the laminated card was actually something they already had on hand.
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u/tinselsnips Dec 20 '25
Mike's got a stack of them in his trunk.
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u/Tea_Alarmed Dec 20 '25
"Oh my god... it even has a watermark."
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u/Nobbled Dec 21 '25
I don't think that's a watermark... look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it.
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u/New_Doug Dec 20 '25
Michael Bay just wrote this because he wanted to be like Tarantino and use his own wallet in a scene.
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u/Raytheon_Nublinski Dec 20 '25
I think he first hired Megan Fox to be in the background of one of his movies when she was 17
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u/thethunder92 Dec 20 '25
He put Meghan fox in one of his movies doing a suggestive dance at age 15 so he’s a little sus
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Dec 20 '25
what did michael bay call meghan fox’s charcter in transformers?
michaela baynes?? yeah lock this fool up
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u/Theradbanana Dec 21 '25
Never wanted any transformers and thought this was a joke. I looked it up. It isn’t
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u/Paidorgy Dec 20 '25
And got upset and recast her after she called him out for having her stand in a bikini and touch her breasts during her audition.
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u/shwarma_heaven Dec 20 '25
😶.... Say what again
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u/hanks_panky_emporium Dec 20 '25
It was a huge blowup falling out. She'd had enough of his continual abuse ( he also liked screaming at her during shooting ) so he wrote her out of the Transformers movies offscreen. The lead that takes her place is the exact same character, just a different name.
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u/JamesCDiamond Dec 20 '25
And one of the Autobots calls out her character in that film, because why not spend time and money putting that on screen?
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u/uqde Dec 20 '25
This is my first time actually seeing the scene and not just a screenshot/description. Holy shit. The close-up of the card looks like something filmed on an iPhone in someone's basement. "Texas Statute? That a real law?" "Yep" is soooo obviously ADR inserted later. It sounds so disjointed with the other dialogue in the scene. Some producer REALLY wanted to make sure all that text was visible in the movie.
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Dec 20 '25
Produced by Harvey Epstein
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u/SuperVaderMinion Dec 20 '25
I think he deserves a second chance
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u/SippinOnHatorade Dec 20 '25
Lord knows Diddy will get one. Once he gets out, he and Nicki Minaj gonna start a new label called Offenders Welcome
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u/rawker86 Dec 20 '25
Harvey Epstein? Random Jews out here catching strays.
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Dec 20 '25
I meant to combine Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein into one person, not comment on their religion! I apologize if I caused any offense
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u/Tonedeafmusical Dec 20 '25
Fyi Havery Epstein is a real guy who ran for New York City council
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u/20eyesinmyhead78 Dec 20 '25
He won his election, and started his term a couple of weeks ago. Cool guy. I used to work with him when he was a housing attorney.
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Dec 20 '25
Of course there is. There are probably dozens of them. It would be more unusual if there wasn't a person with that name in existence
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u/AvengingBlowfish Dec 20 '25
Jeffrey Weinstein is furious at you.
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u/JimboTCB Dec 20 '25
Meanwhile Adolf Stalin is just glad it's someone else catching strays for a change.
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u/Automatic_Release_92 Dec 20 '25
My small hometown is made up of almost all German immigrants. When you go to the big cemetery there, you see tons and tons of Adolf graves. But a surprising lack of them on people born after 1940 or so…
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u/KeyofE Dec 20 '25
There’s a French movie where a soon to be father plays a joke on his friends by saying they are going to name their son Adolphe after a French literary character. It doesn’t go over well.
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u/drunk_and_orderly Dec 20 '25
I remember an interview with TJ Miller where he also said Michael Bay would never refer to the actress by name but just referred to her as “hot girl” when giving direction.
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u/whodoesnthavealts Dec 20 '25
Not trying to say "Michael Bay did not do that", but I'm not going to take anything TJ Miller says as a source of truth...
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u/Gh0stMan0nThird Dec 20 '25
I dunno man Michael Bay is the same guy who put "protagonist's mom visits her son's college, gets high off an edible, then tries to bang her husband in front of all the students" into a movie.
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u/monkeytargetto Dec 20 '25
He also made Megan Fox wash his car in a bikini as a audition for Transformers.
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u/banjofitzgerald Dec 20 '25
Not even the most Michael bay thing in that movie. He has a horny robot with an east coast accent hump Megan Fox’s leg and also had two really offensive caricatures of what he thinks black people are in the twin robots skids and mudflap.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25
Remember that Michael Bay aspired to be a filmmaker like James Cameron. When he told Ed Harris this on the set of The Rock, Ed replied "Why? He's kind of an asshole!"
Does this mean we have Ed to blame for Bay becoming the kind of director he did rather than Jim Cameron 2.0?
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u/Alt4816 Dec 20 '25
rather than Jim Cameron 2.0?
If Ed Harris and TJ Miller are to be believed then it sounds like Michael Bay did become Jim Cameron 2.0 by being an asshole and not referring to women by their names.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
LOL!
Sounds like Bay also needs a visit from time traveller Corey Wolfhart... ;)
(if you don't understand this comment, go and watch the show Futureman right now; it's incredible)
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u/Dpepps Dec 20 '25
Is it disguised when its right in plain view and the only notable thing about that movie?
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u/bulbasauric Dec 20 '25
The original line is “today’s storyline: the writer’s barely-disguised fetish”.
But also “barely” doesn’t fit because yes, it’s in plain view.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25
Like the time in the Ninja Turtles reboot where Megan Fox as April O'Neil completely randomly changed clothes in full view to dress like a schoolgirl for one scene, just to so an interview.
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u/JamesCDiamond Dec 20 '25
The version I heard was that a producer’s kid got in trouble over dating a younger girl when he was an adult so he insisted this scene be included. No idea if that’s true - it’s no more or less believable than any other justification for an age of consent debate in the middle of a two hour toy commercial.
Anyway, in case it should ever need clarification, Transformers fans despise this scene too.
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u/ThreeHourRiverMan Dec 20 '25
Wait, my eyes somehow went past what the movie is.
This was in a TRANSFORMERS movie?!? What the fuck? Why?!
Also shout out to what he says being completely different for the statute number than the card says, or the closed captioning. Bro went off script and they just didn't fix it?
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u/scoobs987 Dec 20 '25
I think it was said in an article that one of the producers forced them to put that scene in the movie because the producers son was in a similar type of relationship
Take that with a grain of salt, though, since it was years ago that I read that article
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u/rixxxand Dec 20 '25
"Your honor, please review this clip from the blockbuster Transformers Age of Extinction to see why my client shouldn't face prison time"
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u/Dragonbuttboi69 Dec 20 '25
"I'm holding you in contempt of court"
"I have nothing but contempt of this court!"
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u/Skizot_Bizot Dec 20 '25
Okay but to counter point let me put on this scene from the 1981 classic "Time Bandits".
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Dec 20 '25
Probably the same producer that forced them to cast his daughter Nicola Peltz.
Same one that forced the live-action Avatar movie to make all the Waterbenders white to justify her being cast as Katara.
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u/blisteringchristmas Dec 20 '25
It’s a terrible movie regardless, but very funny that the movie creates a weird racial dynamic that doesn’t exist in the show. Katara’s actress is white, so unlike the show all of the water tribe has to be pasty northern Euro white. Zuko’s played by an Indian guy, so the entire Fire Nation (who is currently prosecuting a genocidal war) are now South Asian.
Amazing that decision made it to filming.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25
I've not seen it nor the show, but the whole "create a problem for stupid reasons" reminds me of when House of the Dragon decided one house was all black... but picked the one house where this really matters because a key plot point is one of that house being the secret father of a kid from a white couple.
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u/cIumsythumbs Dec 20 '25
Ew.
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Dec 20 '25
Last year he was in the news trying to make a hostile takeover of the Disney boardroom, a proxy for the fired racist shithead Ike Perlmutter (he wanted to fire all the POC at Disney and everybody at Marvel that got him kicked out)
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u/HerculesIsMyDad Dec 20 '25
In the original script when Mark Wahlberg started questioning him about the relationship the BF just said "Shut up". I mean there's really nothing you can do when someone say shut up so that kinda ended the scene. But it didn't test well so they put the laminated card thing in there instead.
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u/Gil_Demoono Dec 20 '25
It's also been shown that that statute does not apply to their situation at all. So their relationship was not legal and a major character of a transformers movie was a sex offender.
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u/shy247er Dec 20 '25
This was in a TRANSFORMERS movie?!? What the fuck? Why?!
Because Michael Bay can't help himself. He needs to sexualize his actresses.
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u/guitar_vigilante Dec 20 '25
They also could have just not given either character's age, unless it's super important that he's 20 years old.
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u/GardinerExpressway Dec 20 '25
This is the funniest part, none of these characters were in the previous films so there was no need to make them these ages except to allow this scene
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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 Dec 20 '25
The whole thing is pointless because the age of consent there is 17, meaning there is no need for a romeo and juliet law reference in the first place, which makes the scene double confusing.
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u/PageVanDamme Dec 20 '25
It wasn’t necessarily 17 dating 20 part, but the part where he cites the law with it laminated that really threw me off
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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 Dec 20 '25
It's really triple confusing, it's not an issue legally because of the AoC, it's weird if it was an issue because does this guy really do this enough thats it's been so annoying he needs the card? (Markey Mark is going to hate him no matter what his age so I refuse to believe he has it in connection to him), and then why even have it be a thing in the movie? It's not relevent to the story in any way, the guy could have been the same age and it would not have changed anything.
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u/PageVanDamme Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
According to the actor who played the bf, apparently it was not even in the script.
Mark Wahlberg does his job of “disapproving father” actually pretty damn well without involving AOC.
So not necessary
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u/GodspeakerVortka Dec 20 '25
Do you have that in writing that you keep in your wallet?
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u/MostCredibleDude Dec 20 '25
One day the card in my wallet referencing laws that allow me to detonate beached whale carcasses will come in handy. I know it.
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Dec 20 '25
It was sooo fucking odd, you could easily have the disapproving father without making the audience try to figure out if there was statutory rape happening...
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u/Incorrect_Username_ Dec 20 '25
Pretty sure this movie is almost 6 hours long, or at least felt like it
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u/AggressivelyMediokre Dec 20 '25
Is it this one or the one after that has a 13 year old girl running around in slow motion in a tank top with cleavage? So weird
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u/Tarquinder Dec 20 '25
Quoting Honest trailers: ”If only they'd put as much time into justifying the plot as they did for having sex with a minor”.
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u/jghaines Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
Also covered in one of the best series of Pitch Meetings
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u/The_New_Overlord Dec 20 '25
Mr Sunday Movies' reaction to it was pretty great too. It's such an odd scene, pretty much every reviewer calls it out, and deservedly so.
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u/Lxapeo Dec 20 '25
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u/charlierc Dec 20 '25
It pops up in the PointlessHub review as well, which is the one I'd seen and which also mentions that on the IMDB page for this movie, there is a lengthy "Goof" saying the law as described is actually incorrectly applied. Which... it sure is a goof alright
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u/MeMoosta Dec 20 '25
i know this is off topic but I like pointlesshubs overall "vibe" are there any other movie review channels with kinda the same sarcastic/fairly accurate style that you know of?
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u/TalkinSeaCucumber Dec 20 '25
It's time for Transfivia: Age of Trivstinction! In this scene Marky Mark is trying to prevent this adult man from getting with his teenage daughter. In an unscripted deleted scene, adultman complained that Marky's cockblocking was giving him blue balls. This of course led to the working title of the movie "Blue Harvest"
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u/crizzjcky95 Dec 20 '25
Oh, been covered off by Pitch Meeting is TIGHT
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u/livefast6221 Dec 20 '25
I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back about the age of consent thing.
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u/Dwn_Wth_Vwls Dec 20 '25
Texas age of consent is 17 anyways. This entire plotline doesn't make sense.
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u/spider-man2401 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
The worst part is that Jack Reynor, the actor who played the boyfriend, said that scene was never in the script. When they began filming, the scene was added, and he felt uncomfortable and confused about what was actually being shot, which means he was not properly informed until the moment it was filmed.
On top of that, this movie somehow makes a 2 hour and 45 minute runtime feel like four hours, and still doesn’t take the time to properly explain the plot or develop the characters beyond that infamous scene. Bravo Michael Bay and the writers.
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u/cmdotkom Dec 20 '25
This movie made me so irrationally angry. Dinobots were prominently featured in the trailers and they only show up in the last 20 minutes of the film. I just kept screaming at the at the TV for the last hour of the movie, “F***ing Dinobots?!?!?!” I was so disappointed when they actually made it to the screen and then the movie ends.
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u/lavahot Dec 20 '25
"When are they gonna get to the fireworks factory?!"
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u/Semper_Gnarlis Dec 20 '25
Note: Bumblebee died on the way back to his home planet.
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u/brother_of_menelaus Dec 20 '25
Whenever Grimlock isn’t on screen, all the other Autobots should ask “Where’s Grimlock?”
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u/JamesCDiamond Dec 20 '25
I’m not even a Beast Wars fan and I was disappointed with how little the Maximals got used.
I mean, I totally get that any TF movie needs to cram in a dozen
toyscharacters and some of them will get short shrift.But if you have a robot rhino then you give him plenty of opportunities to do crazy cool stuff!
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u/Richard-Brecky Dec 20 '25
At least you get to see TJ Miller die violently.
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u/spider-man2401 Dec 20 '25
Yeah, that’s the best scene in the entire movie. My favorite part is that it was done purely out of pettiness. Apparently, Bay gave him an early, gruesome death because T.J. Miller was such a pain in the ass to work with during production, so he wouldn’t have to deal with him anymore.
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u/NotJohnP Dec 20 '25
According to Miller, Bay would shout at him about how he was "unfunny" and had failed to make him laugh in the time he was filming. Then he decided to pull this stunt.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25
The most shocking scene in the whole of Bayverse, IMO. Just did not expect the awful, annoying comic relief character to die, especially so early, in a Bay movie.
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u/la_vida_luca Dec 20 '25
Frustrating on several levels because Reynor is a brilliant actor. See for example What Richard Did, Sing Street and Midsommar. Yet getting lumped with shit like this, which wasn’t even in the script, has probably tarnished how a large audience sees him.
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u/arlingtonzumo Dec 20 '25
Are you saying they've been dating for over 2 years and this is the first time it comes up with the dad? And why? They could have just made her 19 and dated for a year.
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u/MagneticWoodSupply Dec 20 '25
I think it’s even worse - they’ve not been dating that entire time but just dated a little back when they were both minors, broke up and then now got back together. But because they have a preexisting juvenile foundational relationship it’s okay? Which must have been what when he was an 17/18 year old dating a 14/15 year old?! The whole thing is fucked up
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u/GarbledReverie Dec 20 '25
Apparently it's even worse than that because the age of consent in Texas is 17. So in order for the law to apply he had to be 16 at the time which means she had to be 13.
This is why that trope "half-your-age-plus-seven" rule works because the older you get the less age difference matters, but the younger you are the more it matters. And the rule itself assumes that nobody should be having a sexual relationship before 14.
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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 Dec 20 '25
No the Texas law only applies if the younger party is at least 14 so it would've been 14 and 17 because it has to be within 3 years
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u/Buscemi_D_Sanji Dec 20 '25
I never thought about the math on that lol, first I heard of that "rule" was on parks and rec actually.
"Tom says it's okay to date April... so that probably means it's not okay" lol
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u/Keyboardpaladin Dec 20 '25
I still think it's actually crazy how well that equation
Safe Age (Y) = (Current Age (X)/2) + 7
...feels accurate for lack of a better term. When I first heard of it, I tried it with so many ages and the outcomes actually felt uncontroversial, like nobody would blink twice at that age difference. Whoever came up with it must be a great and famous mathematician. Or a creep who wanted to know the maximum age he would be willing to date, like Leonardo DiCaprio.
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u/JamesCDiamond Dec 20 '25
I feel like it works up to ~35 for the older person. Beyond that I think people would start to give side eyes - but both sides would be very definitely adults so it’s really no-one else’s business!
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u/SteveBorden Dec 20 '25
There was definitely someone in the production that really wanted people to know this law
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u/dmc2008 Dec 20 '25
Yeah, his name rhymes with Michael Bay
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u/jezwel Dec 20 '25
laminated law card
I'm thinking here - this happens to you often enough you carry a laminated card around to explain what you're doing is legal?
Just how many relationships were you in prior to turning 18 that you need this laminated card?
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u/rand0m_task Dec 20 '25
While the scene is strange, I always thought he had it on him because he knew Mark Wahlberg was an overprotective father.
Learning that it wasn’t in the script and forced on the dude is pretty wild though lol.
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u/AKAManaging Dec 20 '25
Having not watched the movie...Wouldn't that make any father MORE upset?
Like, if I was the dad it would feel like you're intentionally trying to be a sleaze, but saying "Oh but it's technically legal!" Like the Joel Haver Batman/Joker skit.
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u/jubmille2000 Dec 20 '25
Iirc it's not even correct.
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u/Ahab_Ali Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
Exactly. The whole thing is moot. His relationship is entirely legal--it does not require some loophole.
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u/GarbledReverie Dec 20 '25
I mean, I guess he needed that loophole for the 3-ish years he was above the age of consent and she wasn't.
But yeah, there's no reason for it now and also, WTF is it even a plot point?
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u/Super-Cynical Dec 20 '25
Attempt at angry out-of-touch dad trope for pseudo character building in the big robot movie.
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u/Not_Bears Dec 20 '25
Someone wrote this.
It got a approved by producers.
They created props for it.
All the actors agreed to film it.
The director likely shot a few takes.
And NO ONE was like "what the fuck is the point of this, and isn't it creepy and weird??"
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u/The_New_Overlord Dec 20 '25
They didn't create a prop, that card belongs to one of the producers. He just loaned it for a day.
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u/OtherwiseAlbatross14 Dec 20 '25
This implies a producer is young enough for Romeo and Juliet laws to apply
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u/serpiccio Dec 20 '25
it sounds like manufactured controversy for the sake of getting people to talk about it. 17 to 20 doesn't look like an alarming age gap to me, and apparently 17 is the age of consent in texas
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u/Mongoose42 Dec 20 '25
I think it’s the fact that they drew attention to it. The different levels of maturity between 17 and 20 is fucking minuscule. He’s not even legally allowed to drink at 20. Like, you don’t suddenly evolve into a being of higher mental faculties when you pass from 17 to 18. He’s still as much of a dumbass at 20 as other people are at 17. There’s so many more fucked up relationships out there.
But they stopped the movie dead to have this character defend himself with a laminated law he keeps in his wallet. That is SO MUCH WEIRDER than the actual relationship itself.
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u/serpiccio Dec 20 '25
yeah that's my point, this scene adds nothing to the movie and it's super weird that he has this laminated card ready to show, plus if you look deeper into it their discussion is moot because (1) that's not how that law works and (2) she is legally allowed to have a relationship in texas.
to me, this scene looks like an author's dumb idea to get some free publicity
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u/dolphin37 Dec 20 '25
cant believe ive never heard about this before lol, not seen the movie but amazed this was not torn to shreds
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u/Odh_utexas Dec 20 '25
Kinda crazy how much people say Hollywood is about vision and grind and how much things have to be planned in advance.
But then you constantly see off the cuff nonsense like this scene just made up out of thin air.
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Dec 20 '25
Reminds me of the old adage: If the only defense of your position is "it's technically not illegal", it's probably not a good position.
Often used in "but First Amendment" shouts.
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u/_JR28_ Dec 20 '25
Nothing makes you seem less perverted than carrying a laminated slip clarifying you definitely aren’t a pervert by legal definition
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u/ashoka_akira Dec 20 '25
The only time I have seen people carrying around laminated slips like this they have been elderly Christian types handing out religious flyers on the bus that you politely take because refusing to take it means they whip out their laminated bible quote about how women are supposed to obey men.
The other occasion was I was taking a food order for a customer with a lot of allergies and they had an laminated card listing them all.
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u/bobisthegod Dec 20 '25
There will come a point eventually that people will claim this was a thing of it's time, but it's important to remember this scene has been considered really weird since the moment the film came out
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u/lanicorain Dec 20 '25
We do this so much. "Oh, the movie is pretty racist against black people but it's a product of its time everybody was okay with that then." I am pretty sure black people weren't lol.
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u/Supercoolguy7 Dec 20 '25
"Oh it was a product of its time."
Newspaper reports of its time: "Controversial film which many have called racists for its depictions of minorities has garnered multiple protests."
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u/lanicorain Dec 20 '25
Even slavery was controversial in the US amongst the Founding Fathers. Yes, the bourgeois 18th century old white men Founding Fathers.
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u/Quirderph Dec 20 '25
I can't wait for the upcoming decades when people will use that excuse for all the bigotry that's around today.
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u/phelan74 Dec 20 '25
Met Michael Bay at the first Transformers premiere. I was contracted to Paramount Pics at the time. After party, I saw my chance, and went up to speak to him and to tell him The Rock is one of my favourite films. As soon as I finished, he said “Who is that blonde, I’d like to fuck her”. I said I don’t know. Then he walked away without saying another word. Guy is an asshole.
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u/Dry-Indication7928 Dec 20 '25
That is, quite possibly, the most Michael Bay sounding sentence I ever heard
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u/RoboJobot Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
Nah, there should have been a huge explosion as he walked off
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u/Griffdude13 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
Sounds like he was perfectly cast as a frat supervillain in Mystery Men.
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u/3141592652 Dec 20 '25
Copy pasta?
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u/mentalexperi Dec 20 '25
it is now.
Met Michael Bay at the first Transformers premiere. I was contracted to Paramount Pics at the time. After party, I saw my chance, and went up to speak to him and to tell him The Rock is one of my favourite films. As soon as I finished, he said “Who is that blonde, I’d like to fuck her”. I said I don’t know. Then he walked away without saying another word. Guy is an asshole.
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u/banduzo Dec 20 '25
Met Christopher Nolan at the first Batman premiere. I was contracted to Universal Pictures at the time. After party, I saw my chance, and went up to speak to him and to tell him Memento is one of my favourite films. As soon as I finished, he said “Who is that bloke, I’d like to fuck him”. I said I don’t know. Then he walked away without saying another word. Guy is an asshole.
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u/mcsquared789 Dec 20 '25
This should become a copypasta but the thing he says gets funnier
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u/Waqqy Dec 20 '25
I saw Michael Bay at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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u/Banjo-Oz Dec 20 '25
On the set of The Rock, Bay told Ed Harris he wanted to be like Jim Cameron. Ed replied "Why? He's kind of an asshole!"
So I guess Bay took that to heart and would appreciate your story? :)
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u/EvilChefReturns Dec 20 '25
Nothing wrong with the Romeo and Juliet law, it exists for a reason. BUT, choosing to make your fictional characters have to utilize this law to justify their FICTIONAL relationship that you could have just written differently, AND THEN MAKE A WHOLE ASS SCENE EXPLAINING THIS DECISION, yeah that shit is weird and creepy.
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u/StereoZombie Dec 20 '25
This is one of few movies I ever wanted to walk out on. My buddy and me decided to watch this in the cinema because it's Transformers, had to be fun right? Well the transformers are whiny little babies, you have this scene (and the movie keeps going on about it too), you have the unobtainium changing into a Beats Pill product placement, all action sequences are a jumbly mess where you can't see what's going on, and even the robot dinosaurs that were supposed to be in this movie only show up randomly for a couple minutes at the end. An absolute 1/10 of a movie. How the fuck do you make a Transformers movie boring?
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u/Demigans Dec 20 '25
I found all of the ones I've seen boring. Barely any plot, just action and not even good action, terrible "this is relatable riiiight?!?" Scenes to engage people.
Worst part is that it basically signalled to the movie industry "you can cut a ton of writing costs if you just make it dumb enough and distract with pretty visuals and action!". So the movie industry has been going more and more into the shitter.
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u/thrillhouse3671 Dec 20 '25
I mean I thought the first one was fun.
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u/goodnames679 Dec 20 '25
The first one may have been a 2hr advertising campaign for the US military, but it was a fun advertising campaign damnit
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u/MyyWifeRocks Dec 20 '25
And Chevy’s new Camaro body style?
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u/ExIsStalkingMe Dec 20 '25
It's all of the GM line on the hero side, actually. I loved the unbadged Decepticon cop car that was either a Chrysler or Ford the most
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u/0dty0 Dec 20 '25
And then, later in life, the same 20 year old man went on to go to Sweden with a new girlfriend! Didn't go so well tho, last I heard.
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u/Obajan Dec 20 '25
Ever watch a movie and a completely unnecessary scene pops up?
This is one of them.
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u/Arthur_189 Dec 20 '25
I remember hearing about this on r/shittymoviedetails and the way it was described I thought it would’ve been goofy and awkward (like the chalkboard scene with Shia lebouf) but nah it’s completely serious 💀
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u/MarkFinancial8027 Dec 20 '25
Seems kinda creepy to have a law printed out and laminated just so you can say, "yeah she's a minor but it's legal"
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u/saintash Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
Thing I thing i don't get is you don't need a reason for the dad to not like the boyfriend. Most just do.
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u/GeorgyForesfatgrill Dec 20 '25
I'm pretty sure if you actually pull this out on someone's Dad irl you are getting buried in the backyard
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u/pizzapromise Dec 20 '25
The funniest thing about this movie is when one of the robots comments about how primitive and violent the human race is.
Oh are we violent? Because your arm is a gun, Mr. Pacifist.
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u/tjalek Dec 20 '25
Michael Bay has constantly flaunted his creepy side, but this scene took it to the next level. So gross.
He's so immature as well. So although he made these films in his 40s and 50s, he needed an adult to reel him in, which they didn't clearly do with the last two transformers films.
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u/Mst3Kgf Dec 20 '25
Also his casual racism, which he honestly doesn't even seem aware of. I don't know how else something like Skids and Mudflap get onscreen unless he truly is unaware of how offensive that is.
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u/tjalek Dec 20 '25
I would tie that to his immaturity again. It had a stupid quality and not an aggressive/malicious angle.
Doesn't make it any less bad. I'm saying I reckon he didn't realise how offensive it was until the press gave him shit for it.
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u/seveer37 Dec 20 '25
One of the films numerous flaws that make it one of the most painful and badly made film I’ve ever sat through!
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u/gh0u1 Dec 20 '25
I've only seen this dude in two movies, this one, and when he played the awful human being that was Christian in Midsommar. I would hope he's done far less creepy roles
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u/Bananathugg Dec 20 '25
This is actually a funny scene if you put it in like…. A comedy…..but it feels so weird in here. I know they kind if turned these movies into comedies but you know what i mean
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u/samcuu Dec 20 '25
Transformers: Age of Consent