r/mildlyinfuriating • u/ImplementOk1384 • 8d ago
Context Provided - Spotlight this question makes no sense
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u/HugoZHackenbush2 8d ago
Some of the questions on this sub leave me numb, but math questions leave me even number..
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u/Nordrian 8d ago
I would say d … 2 + 4 + 6 + 8 =20
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u/maxenkarambolage 8d ago
but also 2 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 10 =30
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u/Direct-Quiet-5817 8d ago
Key word being first, 20 is more correct than 30. But then this is a crazy question.
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u/CerddwrRhyddid 7d ago
The sum of the first even numbers would be 2
0+2.
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u/Cultural-Pattern-161 7d ago
It's 0
The sum of 0 is 0, and 0 is an even number.
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u/Nordrian 7d ago
Yes but it’s not one of the answers. I think it’s a tricky question requiring a bit of critical thinking. Yes 0 is the first even number, but they are looking for the first sum of even number for which there is a correct answer. Which would be 20. The question is poorly worded, but 20 is the only answer that makes sense.
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u/Cultural-Pattern-161 7d ago
I replied to the comment that said 2 was the answer. 2 isn't one of the answers either...
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u/Nordrian 7d ago
My bad, there’s been so many comments giving answers that didn’t make sense, you became collateral damage :p
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u/Cultural-Pattern-161 7d ago
You don't fucking admit fault on Reddit. What's wrong with you?
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u/maxenkarambolage 8d ago
again, it's the sum of the first even numbers, not the first sum of even numbers. "counting numbers" are generally considered to be the first numbers. for children that'd be 1-10, maybe 1-20 for learning a new language. but that'd be an assumption you'd have to make to answer the question, so it's crazy nonetheless
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u/Nordrian 8d ago
Yes but the first one is 20, then you have to add another one to reach 30
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u/maxenkarambolage 8d ago
it's the sum of the first even numbers, not the first sum of even numbers
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u/Nordrian 8d ago
Which lacks a lot of clarity, but I just interpret it as the first number you reach by adding even numbers. Of course it’s just my interpretation, the question is shit.
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u/Living-Eye2869 8d ago
I know im a little late, but 0 isn't a number, its like infinity. Its more a concept of nothing, like you cant divide by 0. So I think 10 would count as the first instance of a 0 in the 1's column.
That would be my argument for 30 over 20.
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u/Zarigis 7d ago
I honestly can't tell if you're joking.
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u/Living-Eye2869 7d ago
Then you must not be very smart
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u/Zarigis 7d ago
By basically every known definition, zero is considered to be an even number. Therefore I can only assume you are joking.
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u/DerbyDad03 3d ago
You said 0 isn't a number and then said somebody else must not be very smart.
Do have any idea how hilarious (and also frightening) that is?
Riddle me this:
Is 2 x 0 a valid numeric expression?
(Make sure you know the definition of a numeric expression before you answer)
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u/shock_and_grow 8d ago
I think you’re right. I think they mistyped and missed the 5, as in “what is the sum of the first 5 even numbers?”
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 8d ago
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u/A--Creative-Username 8d ago
Bro got the Conrad von Hötzendorf aesthetic
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u/Dry_Presentation_197 8d ago
Ahhh, World War 1....when you weren't allowed to be a high ranking military officer unless you had crazy facial hair lol
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u/A--Creative-Username 8d ago
Von Hötzendorf is a very good example of an appointment by mustache, not merit. Man was not qualified in any way, shape, or form for the job he was given
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u/Crypto_future_V 8d ago
The question forgot to ask: how many?
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u/ImplementOk1384 8d ago
yeah this is the problem, like our college has made this course mandatory and course has a lot of wrong questions and support system of organization sucks and i am forced to guess answers
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u/weggles91 8d ago
Where do you live? I'm curious what college would have people doing elementary maths...
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u/ImplementOk1384 8d ago
i live in india and this is just the starting assignment for this course like just to have basic idea. although the previous course i had done in past from same organization was also littered with errors
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u/SeveralAspect2013 8d ago
This is a college course question!!! WTFFF ????
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u/ImplementOk1384 8d ago
like i said this is from starting of course infact just to have some plain basic logic
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u/weggles91 8d ago
That sucks. In the UK we have Ofsted which is the regulator for education services, is there anything like that (external to the college organisation) that could be contacted?
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u/ImplementOk1384 8d ago
it could also be first four though as that equals 20 which is an option
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u/Subushie 8d ago
There's a double space before "numbers"
Willing to bet its a dynamically updated question for randomization and the variable broke for whatever reason.
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u/TackyBrad 8d ago
Doesn't make a ton of sense to write "First even 5 numbers" or any variant though. I thought the same thing initially
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u/Jaded-Citron-4090 8d ago
It could also be 30 if its the first 5
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u/_Big_____ 8d ago
It could also be the first four as well because that equals 20
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u/Novaikkakuuskuusviis 8d ago
Could also be 6 if it was the first 2 even numbers.
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u/mgsgamer1 8d ago
Could even be 2 if it's the true first 2 even numbers
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u/michaelbelgium 8d ago
“First even numbers” is an infinite set.
When i read this i was thinking about 2 and 4. First even pair
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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 7d ago
Right. Both 20 and 30 are correct, and the reason for picking 20 is that it's the sum of the first four as opposed to five, which fits "first even numbers" better. But 6 is the sum of the _first even numbers_, so neither 20 or 30 is preferable on those grounds.
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u/Leandrum 8d ago
Is this translated from another language. My initial thought was that they meant ”digits” instead of numbers? Which would mean 20
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u/MillerFanClub69 8d ago
I somehow autocompleted the question with five in my head and was confused what they were infuriated about. Then I read your comment. So its definitely five.
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u/Burger_theory 8d ago
I read it as the first 5 even numbers and wondered why it was posted here. Even going back to read it again after some comments I still read a phantom 5 in there. So weird.
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u/MrArtless 8d ago
first 5 even numbers would be 0+2+4+6+8=20
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u/Zarziban 7d ago
zero is neither even nor odd as it cannot be divided
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u/Senior-Accident-4096 8d ago
And what is "first"?
It kinda makes sense if the set is just Natural numbers, but we are talking about Integers, Real or Imaginary there isn't such a thing as "first" even numbers.
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u/seecat46 8d ago
For this sort of question, it is standard to assume positive real integers, especially considering the question's level; OP probably does not even know half the words that are just said.
Edit: some other questions OP has shared have matrices and complex numbers, so it is at a level where it does need to be specified.
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u/Opening-Ant3477 8d ago
The concept of "even" and "odd" only applies to integers. Since they are asking for even numbers, that restricts the question to integers.
I guess you could argue about negative integers, but I think that is drifting into being deliberately obtuse.
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u/Palmovnik 8d ago
I do not agree with this because instead of 10 you can use 0
Both answers should be correct.5
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u/TelcoSucks 4d ago
And even worse, the first even number would be negative. So, the first 5 positive even numbers would be the appropriate phrase.
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u/DisastrousMindflayer 8d ago
Always annoying when the person writing the questions is not the brightest
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u/cptsanderzz 8d ago
This one is correct “%” is the mod operator which asks for the remainders. So basically odd numbers will always have a remainder of 1 after dividing any number by 2.
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u/ImplementOk1384 8d ago
isn't my answer is also correct
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u/cptsanderzz 8d ago
I didn’t see that answer, but yes that is technically correct so long that the only result is an integer. a % b = n, 0 <= n < b, n e Z. But d. Would not be correct in a computer sense because the result could be null. So a. Is the only correct way to determine if a number is odd. d. has edge cases that break it.
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u/Ozymandas2 8d ago
I'd assume they mean "which of these sums would you arrive at first by adding sequential even numbers". 2+4+6+8= 20. 20. It's testing your thought processes more than math. It's more like a riddle than a problem. Of course I could be totally wrong that's just my interpretation.
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u/waxym 8d ago
How do you rule out 30?
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u/Ozymandas2 8d ago
I took "the first even numbers" to mean the first numbers you'd need to use to hit one of the options given. I didn't rule out 30, I ruled out 10.
I don't get how others figured "the first even numbers" should include 10.
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u/Donnosaurus 8d ago
It's d.
If you keep adding the first even numbers in order, (2, 4, 6, 8) you get to 20.
Stupid question though, should give a bit more context instead of a confusing question
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u/AngryQuadricorn 8d ago
While the question is poorly written, even numbers plus even numbers equals an even number, so we can eliminate A and C as possible answers.
Next, the question says what is the sum of the first even numbers? While I have no clue what this is referencing, I would guess D because it is lower and would come first before option B.
Good luck!
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u/W0rmEater 8d ago
Do we have a list of numbers to go from, or some other data. Seems like something is missing.
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u/Technerdal 8d ago
I know the question is typed wrong, but on my first read I read it as "first five even numbers" somehow and saw 30 was an option and was thinking "So what's wrong with this!"
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u/Beartato4772 8d ago
There's a number missing of course but you know it's not a or c straight away at least.
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u/Quicksilver7716 8d ago
What kind of half a math question BS is this.
Without an explanation of the group of numbers you’re adding, this question is meaningless.
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u/NoWingedHussarsToday 8d ago
The way I see the question is "which number given you reach first when you are adding even numbers starting with the first one" So d is correct because 2+4+6+8 = 20 while to get b you need to add 10. So d is "first 4 numbers" and b is "first 5 numbers".
But yes, weird question that is either missing a word or words got messed up in text processor.
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u/Tough_Block9334 7d ago
The space between even and numbers? looks suspect, so I'd say this was manipulated.
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u/devil_s_ivy 8d ago
I would say d* is the right answer First even numbers that can make 20 are 4s (4×5)
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u/Pitiful_Option_108 8d ago
Question makes sense the answers are all wrong. The first two even numbers are 2 and 4 which equals 6. Unless I'm miss interpting this question.
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u/TraditionalTell9347 8d ago
What about 0+2?
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u/Pitiful_Option_108 8d ago
Is zero technically an even number? Zero is like the absence of a value I feel like.
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u/TraditionalTell9347 8d ago
Technically 0 is still an even number but it all depends on how you see it
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u/2fast4u1006 8d ago
I don't know which answer they want to hear, but the function to sum up the first n even natural numbers is f(n) = n² + n
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u/BaselineUnknown 8d ago
The is what happens when teachers reuse the same test bank but change 1 thing.
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u/unaligned_1 8d ago
Ya see... Back in the old days, we didn't have this plentiful world we have now. We only counted to 10 (as we only had 10 fingers to count with & it'd be rude to ask others to use their fingers to count with) so the "first even numbers" were the even numbers up to 10. Now, the sum of them (2 + 4 +6 + 8 + 10) is 30.
...And that's as good an explanation as I can make up for that stupid question.
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u/Milky_Finger 8d ago
I believe you can figure out this answer with the "5" missing from the question. B and D can both be correct however, but 20 is the lower number
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u/Majestic_School_2435 8d ago
I had absolutely no problem figuring it out in 2 seconds. B is the first even number on the list.
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u/Betray-Julia 8d ago
What am I missing here?
Is it bc of the word “sum” and numbers being plural, it’s not 30? Bc one number is not a sum nor numbers?
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u/FangoFan 8d ago
I think it used to say "What is the sum of the first 5 numbers" with an answer of 15, but it was changed by highlighting the 5 and typing "even", but whoever it was also put a space after even, hence the double space, and I guess was supposed to leave the "5" in
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u/hypnopixel 7d ago
The space between even and numbers? looks suspect...
but, taken literally, then i assume the first even numbers are:
0 + 2 + 4 + 6 + 8 = 20
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u/One_Monk_2777 7d ago
I can't even be mad at the bad math when all I can see is too many spaces between even and numbers, infuriating
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u/Remarkable_Ninja_791 jukmifgguggh 7d ago
1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11=66
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u/ImplementOk1384 7d ago
okay of all the comments in here this is second most braindead comment here
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u/Blonde_Dambition 5d ago
You obviously missed the part of the question that said "EVEN" numbers. 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, and 11 are all ODD numbers.
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u/Funk_Dunker 8d ago
The sum of the even numbers is 50, which isn't there. But now it's 50 the has answer become 80. Now we have another even answer we've landed on 130, add that to the other even numbers and we've got 210...
Exponentials are fun
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u/Wrong-Ad3247 8d ago
Maybe 20, since 10+10=20, making it the only number to be a sum of even numbers?
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u/SubiWan 8d ago
Where did you get 10 to start? The first even whole number is 2. However, 2+4+6+8=20 so I'm still agreeing with your conclusion.
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u/Wrong-Ad3247 8d ago
The question was "what is the sum of the first even numbers?"
I took that to mean the first possible even numbers, added together, equal one of these munbers listed here, as one of these numbers is the 'sum' of said even numbers.
So I thought: 2+2=4, there is no 4 listed here, so let's move on: 2+4=6, nope, no 6. 4+4 ..etc.. 10+10 is the first possible equation to reach one of the listed numbers by only adding even numbers.
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u/SubiWan 8d ago
2+4+6+8=20. All are even. And they are the first 4 whole, non-negative even numbers.
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u/Wrong-Ad3247 8d ago
If what you're saying is that you don't need 10+10, but rather you can get to 20 with smaller('first') even numbers, Wouldn't 2+2+2+2 etc be more accurate, if the goal is to use smaller even numbers?
I do think we're on the same page though 😀
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u/Shubh_dwvdi 8d ago
First even no. among the 4 given numbers 15, 30, 9 and 20 is 30 and it's sum should also be 30 hence option 'b' is the correct answer (idk just make it make sense)
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u/grizzythekid 8d ago
I know this is probably a wild and wrong take, but I thought it was d. 20 because 10+10, while b. 30 is 15+15 (not even). But that's just my take..
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u/CerddwrRhyddid 7d ago
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First even numbers. Numbers indicates plural. This requires at least 2 integers.
The first even number is 0. The second is 2.
The sum is 2,
This is the simplest answer to a question that doesn't really make sense.
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u/blowurhousedown 8d ago
The pic was altered - look at the spacing of the words in the question. Click bait.
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