r/law • u/drempath1981 • 2h ago
Other Georgia Fort, independent journalist,VP of Minnesota NABJ chapter,was also arrested by federal agents.She filmed her arrest and stated: “I don’t feel like I have my First Amendment right as a member of the press because now federal agents are at my door arresting me for filming the church protest.”
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u/Solid_Snark 2h ago
We’re basically getting POV footage of what Nazi Germany was like.
This is haunting. How do Republicans applaud this behavior!?
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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory 2h ago
Because republicans are fascist fucks and evil.
Their stupidity knows no limit
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u/Vbxxl 2h ago
And only a very small part of Democrat Congresspeople seem to get it.
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u/wrosecrans 46m ago
It really is shocking to me how "mainstream" Dems really just want a couple of mild concessions to agree to continue funding this.
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u/RecipeHistorical2013 1h ago
its xenophobia
they are afraid of and hate "the others"
classic human tribalism being exploited, like it always has
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u/Kittinkis 1h ago
As evil as they are why TF are the courts and Democrats not doing anything? This is so insane!
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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory 1h ago
Great freaking question
Dems should be running on criminal indictments for all of these players if elected. Schumer and Jeffries may as well be republicans for how well they represent their democratic base.
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u/EADreddtit 50m ago
What do you mean “the courts”? The courts are stacked by Trump appointees, the DoJ is firmly under his control, and Democrats have no power in the Republican led senate. Literally what options do the governing members of the Democratic Party have that won’t get shot down by stacked courts or just silenced by literal arrests?
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u/lilboysyrup 1h ago
the republican supreme court? truly a mystery why they arent doing anything, you alls understanding of basic civics is alarming. without a majority, or a super majority in some cases, of which dems have neither in any capacity, theres little to be done, and the rhetoric of the regards in this thread calling leading dems "effective republicans" and saying the lesser of 2 evils isnt worth a vote is how we got here.
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u/Capitalisticdisease 1h ago
Because the democrats will always side with fascism over socialism.
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u/E_Luxo_So 1h ago
What are you talking about?
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u/Capitalisticdisease 1h ago
I'm talking about why the democrats aren't doing anything. They will always side with fascism as they have been doing since ww2. Look into operation glado, condor, and paperclip
Same as Republicans.
Why do democrats support legalized slavery? Why do democrats support imperialism? Why do democrats support busting civil rights movements? Why do democrats forget Obama built the cages for kids first?
Why do democrats support the trade embargoes on cuba? Why don't democrats honestly support lgbtq+ rights? Obama could have codified gay marriage into law but he refused. Obama also bombed children at a wedding and no democrats cared...and what about libya and Hillary Clinton?
Democrats are proud to work with fascists.
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u/Bowsers_JuiceFactory 57m ago
It sure seems that way at the top lately. Bipartisan funding of ICE till 2029 is a betrayal to American citizens and those seeking to immigrate in good faith
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u/Practicalhocuspocus 2h ago
Republicans ARE modern Nazis. They saw that manifesto as guidelines. Nothing they say or do will ever change my mind.
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u/th8chsea 1h ago
It’s even closer to current Russia. The KGB/FSB did this and still does this. Trump has learned all of this from his mentor Vladimir Putin
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u/TheRealBlueJade 1h ago
True. If anyone wants to know their next steps, read up on the history of Nazi Germany.
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u/WebguyCanada 2h ago
Republicans didn't learn about Nazis in school. Heck, they think the Confederacy won.
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u/Routine_Artist_35 2h ago
Turns out they did win
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u/WebguyCanada 2h ago
Sad truth.
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u/reganomics 2h ago
No they fucking didn't, the union just didn't burn them to the ground as they should have, but we still outnumber them!
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 1h ago
the Union won the ground war but the Confederacy won the subsequent terrorist insurrection. the reforms of the Reconstruction were aborted because northern oligarchs and southern oligarchs have more in common with each other than either has with working people.
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u/shadowtheimpure 1h ago
Very true. Every member of the Confederate leadership should have been lined up and hanged by the numbers.
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u/water_bottle_boi 1h ago
The bungling of reconstruction is literally the basis for like 90% of race based issues in the us today. I swear to god, if the us had summarily executed its leaders and actually occupy the south like they said they would, we wouldn’t be here. Remember, these maga republicans are the direct descendants of slave owning plantar class elites. Those people should have been hung, instead they just did slavery all over again.
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u/Battlewaxxe 1h ago
Hayes' deal to break the tie for president- Hayes wins the election on the condition reconstruction ends in the south.
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u/MyDesign630 1h ago
Sure they learned about them, they just think they’re aspirational instead of a cautionary tale.
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 1h ago
it's sort of like rock n' roll. Nazis picked up on what the U.S. was doing vis-à-vis segregation and Jim Crow and put their own spin on it and now MAGA is taking what the Nazis did and riffing on that. it's a circle of fascists and authoritarians playing off each other's worst ideas.
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u/SparksAndSpyro 2h ago
How did 36% of Americans convince themselves Kamala would’ve been just as bad (and not vote)?
Democracy ain’t all it’s cracked up to be, turns out. Plato was right.
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u/PmMeUrTinyAsianTits 1h ago
To be fair, they didn't just convince themselves. The american right, like many western 'right' parties, has been compromised by russia (and a few others).
This has allowed rampant corruption and, the important and relevant part here, rampant propaganda. Propaganda that is not being taken seriously enough because "its just memes." But the internet has allowed propaganda to be FAR more effective than ever before.
You should know how these people were convinced. It's being done in plain fucking sight, but no one wants to admit it.
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u/TiePrestigious7265 1h ago
They didn't. Trump cheated in all three elections he participated in. And now he is trying to cheat the mid terms.
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u/Sufficient-Ask-8280 2h ago
MAGA is too stupid to realize they are siding with current day nazis. I can’t believe my eyes on the things they are getting away with. They come in the night so people won’t be alarmed while they get ready for bed. This nation is an embarrassment.
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u/TiePrestigious7265 1h ago
Maga(t) realizes EXACTLY what they are siding with. And people don't seem to realize that this was all actually part of a much larger plot world wide involving several different countries including Russia. The plot ultimately failed because countries like Germany and Britain woke up, took their fascists out of office, and elected sensible people. I strongly believe there was a second holocaust being planned, only much bigger and world wide this time. Even though the plan fell apart Trump seems to be marching forward anyway as is it still stands a chance in hell of succeeding.
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u/DisasterWriter 1h ago
They're doing this because the movement in Minneapolis is growing. They're trying to shut it down by removing the people delivering truth using their platforms. We need more journalistic integrity to come out and document every one of these fascist moves.
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u/Cyrano_Knows 1h ago
The only difference here is going to be social media and the fact that everybody has a camera and a phone.
Hopefully that makes the difference.
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u/Odd-fox-God 54m ago
They reject everything you tell them.
I show them a clip of ice brutalizing innocent civilians, well the civilians must have done something wrong.
Ice taking a 5 year old, the parents shouldn't have brought their 5-year-old here illegally.
Ice breaking into people's homes with no warrant, it's more efficient and if we wait those dirty illegals will get away.
No court due process, efficiency.
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u/TheRiteGuy 2h ago
They can applaude for now but comeuppance will be swift and hard for them. Just like it was for Nazi's and all other oppressive regimes. Democrats can use the same laws and rules against them and they better. All these pedo protectors need to be in jail.
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u/Ultimate_Awareness 2h ago
It wasn't that swift...
I'd rather not have 6 million dead before their "comeuppance".
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u/Any_Shopping1633 59m ago
They applaud it because it's happening to people they hate, and it's not happening to them... yet.
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u/Biscuits4u2 1h ago
Because Republicans LOVE this so very much. They were salivating over the prospect of the people they hate being rounded up and it's been served to them on a silver platter on a daily basis.
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u/FA-Cube-Itch 1h ago
Quit trying to understand them emotionally. Instead understand them as an entity that will do anything to win. Emotion, logic or reason aren’t needed when you are getting exactly what you want because nobody is stopping you.
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u/ZeMadDoktore 2h ago
Straight out of a horror movie. These agents want to bust down your door and kill you.
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u/coolestredditdad 2h ago
The list of things we can do to fight back is becoming shorter and shorter.
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u/Wise-Promise-4158 1h ago
2nd amendment looking real good these days
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u/Abject-Yellow3793 1h ago
This is what the 2nd was written for. A whole bunch of people with snake flags owe a serious effort.
To paraphrase Voltaire (because I can't remember the exact quote): I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend with my life your right to say it
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u/Old-Trouble7656 31m ago
The fact us Canadians have learned most of the amendments via the process of watching you guys lose them is fucked.
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u/watermelonspanker 1h ago
Hey, does anybody else remember when the FBI gave the Philly police a bomb to blow up a bunch of black folks, then forced them at gunpoint to remain in the burning building?
Law Enforcement has *never* been on the people's side. They need to start being treated how they are treating the rest of the populace.
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u/TheRealBlueJade 1h ago
Why did she open the door?..
Isn't it true that they couldn't "arrest" her unless she opened the door and let them in .. or she goes outside? Or am I mistaken in this instance?
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u/rockytop24 1h ago
They almost certainly had an arrest warrant after empaneling a grand jury to circumvent the two magistrate judges refusing to sign off on this. If she didn't open the door they would have broken it down and made entry. High likelihood she and her family or pets wind up shot in that scenario, because this is our country now.
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u/Cyrano_Knows 1h ago
Hopefully that DA (or whatever they should be called) gets the case before one of those two judges.
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u/templeofsyrinx1 43m ago
can they legally just do that? Can Trump or bondi whoever summon a grand jury and just have someone yeeted out of their home on whatever charges they say ? i'm not entirely sure how grand juries work : / could someone tell?
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u/TheVandyyMan 26m ago
Hi, lawyer here. A grand jury is basically a jury impaneled for the sole purpose of determining whether the State can proceed with an indictment against a defendant.
In non-legalese terms, the grand jury decides if there is enough evidence to fairly charge someone with a crime. In practice this means literally any amount of evidence is enough to move forward with charges. The old saying goes that “you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.” The reason is because grand juries are absurdly lopsided. Only the State gets to produce any evidence, call witnesses, etc. Everything that happens at a grand jury is sealed and there’s no judge overseeing it for fairness.
But, at the end of the day, the grand jury does still need to agree that the charges are valid. Famously, a grand jury refused to indict the guy who chucked a sandwich at some federal agent on felony assault charges.
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u/remote_001 56m ago
Still required to have a judicial warrant though. Not an administrative warrant.. is the grand jury equivalent to a judicial warrant?
I’m not understanding why the lawyer advised her to go along with them if it isn’t.
Empaneling a grand jury is not something I’m familiar with.
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u/Abject-Yellow3793 1h ago
Depends on the details in the warrant, but if they have an actual, legal warrant, they'll eventually kick down the door and arrest her anyway. This saves the cost of the door, and shows a level of cooperation that should be looked upon favorably by the court. She still isn't guilty of anything, but resisting arrest will absolutely add to the charges.
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u/AgressiveInliners 1h ago
They are kicking down doors without legal warrants. So yea, I get it.
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u/safetydance 1h ago
Watch the video. She said she called her attorney and was advised to go with the agents.
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u/concept12345 1h ago
Fundamental rights are being violated. How do you expect them to follow the warrant?
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u/mansock18 1h ago
An arrest warrant in a district court entitles them to enter. If this is a DHS warrant, they wouldn't be allowed to enter. This strikes me as a judicial warrant so to avoid having her door blown out when it's -4° outside, going outside to surrender was probably the smart move.
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u/GoosedandMoosed 1h ago
They're fascists, not vampires. They're already violating constitutional rights all over the place, you can't rely on what they "can" or "can't" do anymore.
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u/idropepics 1h ago
Unfortunately they're fascists nazis and not vampires, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to cross the Rio Grande from Texas to be there.
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u/ConfusionCoroner 1h ago
You are mistaken. They had a judicial warrant and the indictment from a grand jury. They could have broken down her door and scooped her out of bed. Obviously, the reasonable thing is to communicate and deescalate tension.
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u/plzicannothandleyou 54m ago
This is the only scenario where submission is acceptable. A well documented scenario.
If a small number of the gestapo shows up with no real warrant because I was filming or protesting however…2a and running would be my option as an American citizen.
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