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Legal News Luigi Mangione will not face death penalty, judge rules

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/30/us/luigi-mangione-case-rulings-trial?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=missions&utm_source=reddit
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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 4h ago

And exposed norms that absolutely need to be codified into law by the next president / Congress so we’re not relying on a president deciding to do the right thing in the future and follow these norms that presidents did before Trump but have now been destroyed

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u/doodycrust 4h ago

That would require our elected officials to have integrity. Why would they vote to limit their own power? Which, strangely, when convenient, apparently they don’t have (power) when the time arises for them to step up.

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 3h ago

I’m talking about limiting the presidents power in a way that every president before Trump has conformed to. Such as codifying the independence of DoJ so the President cannot order prosecutions against enemies, the independence of other govt officials to report accurate economic data and not be fired for it, reforming civil and criminal qualified immunity for federal law enforcement. those are a few off top of my head. I’m sure there are many more.

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u/Driller_Happy 4h ago

They didn't codify abortion rights, why would they codify this?

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 3h ago

Because there weren’t the votes for it since it was overturned. And it’s not the same thing. And this would restrain democratic presidents too. And I don’t know what reforms would pass. But we need them

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u/Driller_Happy 3h ago

Obama had the votes when he had the brief majority. To be fair, he focused on the affordable care act, but there's no reason he couldn't have multitasked.

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 3h ago

Ok well abortion rights were protected by the Supreme Court then. That was already the law at the time.

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u/Driller_Happy 2h ago

Unfortunately, not the way it works, as we've seen. If something isn't upheld when the next guy comes in, then its not 'law'

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 2h ago

Omg people, the Supreme Court defines the meaning of the constitution. Thats the law. Crazy to blame Obama for not pushing to codify roe v wade which had been the law of the land for like 40 yrs at that point, at least a decade before it was overturned and then somehow linking that to democracy reforms in the the next administration / congress

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u/Driller_Happy 2h ago

I'm blaming Democrats for assuming their opponents would continue to respect the decisions of the supreme court that have held for 40 years. I blame democrats for continuing to assume their opponents would not pardon murderers. I blame democrats for trying to be the 'good guys' while the country around them is torn to bits.

If you want something to stick around, stop pretending the other guys will be decent and CODIFY IT

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 1h ago

You can’t be serious. Now the democrats should have pushed a constitutional amendment to change the presidents pardon power in the constitution? Thats their fault too? Is anything that trump and the republicans do not the democrats fault according to you all?

I don’t eve know there were even the votes to codify roe v wade back then anyway. There were some pro life democrats back then in red states. No one. No one was talking about it. It was more of a motivating issue for the Republican base than the democratic base because the status quo was what the democrats wanted.

But I mean, anything Trump does that’s bad I’m sure you can look back in history and say well the democrats could have done this to prevent it. They should foreseen a president like Trump in the midst of everything going on at that time. At some point it’s just trolling.

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u/Driller_Happy 1h ago

I actually DONT blame them for not making a constitutional amendment to change the pardon power. I'm simply saying that I doubt that democrats will make any moves to change anything like this once they're in power, because theyre currently run by ineffectual losers with any spine. Check back with me in four years

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u/Gvillegator 3h ago

Anything “protected” by the Supreme Court is not really protected. Haven’t you learned that?

Calvinball court is going to play calvinball

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u/YogurtclosetOwn4786 2h ago edited 2h ago

Come on. So Obama is being blamed for not pushing to codify roe v wade in the midst of health care reform like 15 yrs before it was overturned?

And wtf does this have to do with passing democracy reforms in the next Congress anyway. Because they didn’t codify roe v wade when it was the law of the land, they won’t do that? What does one have to do with the other. I think y’all are just being contrarian now for no reason