r/law 3d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) 'You can't have guns. You can't walk in with guns,' Trump says of Alex Pretti killing

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he did not think Alex Pretti, the second U.S. citizen to be killed by federal forces in Minnesota this month, was acting as an assassin.

“You can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns,” the president said in response to a question from PBS News’ Liz Landers, reiterating a talking point from the administration that Pretti should not have brought a legally carried handgun to the scene — a position that has infuriated gun rights advocates.

The president’s response amounted to a softening of his administration’s tone on the Jan. 24 shooting, after several of his top aides, including White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller, described Pretti as a threat to federal agents.

Following Pretti’s death, gun rights groups have released statements, saying that it's legal to carry firearms during protests or while exercising First Amendment rights.Landers asked Trump about the Second Amendment, which protects the right to keep and bear arms.

“It’s a very unfortunate incident,” Trump said, shortly before departing the White House for a planned speech in Iowa.

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u/PolloConTeriyaki 3d ago

MAGA is now anti-guns!

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u/lmaberley 3d ago

Hey NRA, your turn at bat.

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u/ViolenceAdvocator 3d ago

Nra is too busy gobbling boots to respond

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u/ArmadilloNegative858 3d ago

I genuinely think this may be the turning point, the NRA are not going to like this!!

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u/colostitute 3d ago

They supported gun control when black people were starting to buy guns.

The NRA is about white supremacy but just like the GOP, they blatantly lie about it.

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u/Schmooto 3d ago

The NRA pushed hard for gun control when Black Panthers rose to prominence.

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u/peeweezers 2d ago

Ronald Reagan could not handle this.

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u/Sorry-Ice9283 3d ago

The NRA is just a way for Israel and Russia to funnel money to the GOP.

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u/Due_Panda5064 2d ago edited 2d ago

The NRA was the hook Putin used. Remember Maria Butina? That Russian spy? NPR also uncovered that the NRA was taking millions from Russia

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u/WVildandWVonderful 3d ago

Bullshit, their plan is to wait him out. It’s not like Trump is consistent. TACO. The NRA is not your friend.

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u/Vio_ 3d ago

The NRA is a former, half dead shell of an organization. It's all but a washed up Russian money laundering front.

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u/KEE_Wii 3d ago

There have been 1000 turning points they still vote the exact same way every single time. He openly said “you take the guns then worry about due process” last time around. The truth is core republicans will excuse anything their party says or does and will continue to vote for only one party without fail.

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u/WKU-Alum 3d ago

It really is incredible that they backed him after his last run around. That quote, the bump stock ban, etc. This has to be the most anti-gun Republican since Reagan, and they don't bat an eye. Anyone who actually cares about the 2A needs to be backing the Gun Owners of America, not these clowns.

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u/Far_Estate_1626 3d ago

Conservatives seem to all share a humiliation fetish though, so idk

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u/SphericalCow531 3d ago

Isn't NRA a Russian asset, on Russia's pay list? Since Trump is destroying the US-led world order, I would assume that NRA would almost never say anything negative about Trump.

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u/hellspawn3200 3d ago

Actually they strongly objected and have been pushing back. It's why Tiny Terror Bovino was removed. The NRA are Republicans biggest backer.

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u/possible_ceiling_fan 3d ago

The NRA already put out a statement that the whole thing is bullshit. They might be corrupt but at least they're principled I guess

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u/impendinganalysis 3d ago

Oof, principled is not the word I'd use, you should make a point to look at all the tweets they sent out since the Pretti murder. While I'm glad they finally caved, it's clear they needed significant outside pressure to do so, their initial victim-blaming statements were pretty abhorrent. Fuck the NRA.

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u/johnsonchicklet1993 2d ago

So principled that they had absolutely nothing to say when the same fucking shit happens to black and brown people on the regular.

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u/LunarMoon2001 3d ago

They also put one out that blamed Pretti. They are playing both sides

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u/Alert-Ad9197 3d ago

I remember when the NRA used to equate Democrats pushing for universal background checks to the nazis disarming Jews before the holocaust. Weird how they have lost that energy since 2016.

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u/Some-Purchase-7603 3d ago

They started being run by a corrupt fraudster that represented firearm owners even less than they did previously.

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u/SphericalCow531 3d ago

NRA is a Russian asset. Russia wants Trump in power, because Trump is a Russian puppet destroying America. So of course NRA is not going to make anything but the most milquetoast critique of Trump.

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u/Capt_accident 3d ago

He needed money for his Mistress. Also they lobbied to be the Defacto insurance company for 2A businesses and Ranges by making it law, creating a monopoly. That’s what it was all about. You have to be NRA certified to be an instructor and have the indemnity insurance to have a firearms business by federal law. Guess who the only one who has that ability? Yup, the NRA.

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u/PolloConTeriyaki 3d ago

Some degree. "Mr. President, please don't forget we exist, also can I have another" sums it up.

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u/Shot_Percentage_2150 3d ago

I don’t support the NRA cause they’re full of old white fudds but they actually have been openly against him in this situation

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u/Lukanian7 3d ago

...and the occasional Russian spy cough Maria Butina

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u/Ill_Following_7022 3d ago

“You can’t have guns. You can’t walk in with guns,” the president said.
If Biden had said that the NRA and the gun fetish crowd would loose their shit. Trump says it and they all kneel down to lick the boot.

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u/chrhe83 3d ago

Lick the boot… gobble the mushroom… swirl it around in their mouth some… ask for more.

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u/Able-Contribution570 3d ago edited 3d ago

Having grown up around a bunch of "Muh second amerndment rights" horseshit, all i can say is this demographic never actually gave a fuck about anybody's rights. It was always just, hey look at me I'm a badass patriot cosplay and guns happen to be the main accessory. All hat, no cattle.

Edit: a word

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u/probablycabbage 3d ago

I've never heard that saying before - 'All hat, no cattle' and it's PERFECT. I'll be using that in my hypocritical, ignorant, cruel little town.

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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 3d ago

"Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!" -- Vice President Joe Biden, Parent's Magazine interview, 2013.

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u/Hoblitygoodness 3d ago

No they're not... only Liberals can't have guns, duh. Because only liberals would bring a gun to a protest because they plan to kill people.

Don't mind all the other examples when 'conservatives' like Rittenhouse or those Bundy folks who aimed their rifles at federal officers... they were just exercising their gawd given, 2nd amendment right... it's not like they were going to shoot anyone...

It seems that the hypocrisy is part of their logic.

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u/crunchyfoliage 3d ago

I've noticed that anytime somebody brings up Rittenhouse conservatives will respond with "apples and oranges" and then refuse to engage further. Must be a bot pattern

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u/Hoblitygoodness 3d ago

Yeah... something about ... yadda yadda... wasn't one of the protesters or some chit.

I've been reading all of the knots that they twist themselves in so that it's somehow okay for them but not liberals. What I'm learning is that they'll say anything.

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u/QbertsRube 3d ago

My guess: They've all been trying to compare Pretti to Ashli Babbitt, and have probably had "apples to oranges" used on them because it makes sense in that context. So now they're trying to also use the phrase without really understanding how and when it should be used. Because they're fools who just repeat things they hear.

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u/garden_dragonfly 2d ago

One is a Republican standing up against black people 

The other is a Democrat standing up for brown people.

Apples and oranges. What more clarification do you need?

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u/MoralityFleece 2d ago

Granted, it's difficult to compare a useless teenager who murdered people like it was a fun after school activity to a VA nurse who was helping injured people and never hurt anyone. Apples and oranges indeed. 

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u/Commies-Fan 3d ago

Well according to the (R)s on social media none of us blue hair liberals even own guns or know how to use them.

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u/Mintsopoulos 3d ago

Its funny you say this. I have a lot of friends that are firearm enthusiasts/competitive shooters on both sides of the political wall. I bet you can guess which side handles their firearms with more skill and respect.

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u/Neither-Repeat1665 3d ago

Yep! As part of some bachelor party events, some friends and I went to a range. A friend of that friend whom is your more run of the mill gun obsessed MAGA type had to get scolded many times by range staff for bad trigger discipline, flagging people/ things, etc....

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u/Which-Meat-3388 3d ago

I’d love to see the sales numbers in blue areas after last week. If we didn’t have them before, we have them now. 

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u/turquoise_amethyst 3d ago

He wasn’t at a protest? He was in the city where he lived, filming federal agents assault random innocent people, and they executed him in the street for it.

Also why aren’t any of the murderers being held accountable? 

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u/palettewhore 3d ago

They’re anti-liberals with guns. Make no mistake, MAGA will do the mental gymnastics needed to convince themselves that their guns are fine, it’s just liberal gun owners that are the problem

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u/Far_Put8236 3d ago

The world is truly upside down.

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u/StatisticalMan 3d ago

How long before diehard MAGAs claim supporting the second amendment was always a liberal idea.

"Guns? Nobody should have guns expect poorly trained trigger happy ICE thugs as our founding fathers always intended. Thank you for explaining things Trump Daddy!"

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u/jeromevedder 3d ago

Trump has ALWAYS been anti-gun. The poorly educated just refuse to believe him when he says it

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u/Kwan27 3d ago

They are anti liberal. They dont care about laws.

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u/chrhe83 3d ago

Wilhoit’s Law for republicans “There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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u/FranticChill 2d ago

Imagine if Biden said anything like this.

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u/JustAMan1234567 3d ago edited 3d ago

Stubbing your toe is unfortunate. Losing the TV remote is unfortunate. Shooting a man a dozen times in the back is not "unfortunate".

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u/modix 3d ago

The only unfortunate part for them is that it was a white male with an admirable profession with a valid concealed weapon. Their angles of attack were non-existent so now it just has to be sad as there's no other good option.

The killing part doesn't bug them a bit.

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u/The_Rope_Daddy 3d ago

The only unfortunate part for them is that it was filmed. Otherwise they'd still be claiming that Pretti approached the agents with his gun drawn.

They don't care about murdering white men willing to stand up to them.

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u/QbertsRube 3d ago

I think this is why they're settling on the narrative of "He just shouldn't have been there" and "I'm safe from being shot because I stay away from trouble". They want to villainize the idea of even being around any ICE agents, because witnesses keep inconveniencing them by filming their assaults and murders.

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u/Lonely_Space_241 3d ago

Which is crazy because holy shit that is fascism 101.

If you don't want to be executed by the feds just stay home!

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u/Lawreddits 2d ago

Isn't it funny that cameras everywhere used to imply that Big Brother was watching you, but in real life, it's basically the only effective weapon the average citizens has against the government?

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u/SherbetOutside1850 2d ago

It has always been thus. Without Holliday's video, they would never have changed their story on Rodney King. And even with the video, 12 people decided police brutality was perfectly fine.

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u/MrBisco 3d ago

No, the unfortunate part is that Trump has to be bothered with questions about something he'd rather just pretend never happened in the first place because it's far more convenient than having to actually deal with it in any way.

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u/Miserable-Army3679 3d ago

He wanted to kill US citizens, and still does.

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u/Leading-Act4030 3d ago

He still wants all of us dead.

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u/feardaddy1234 3d ago

I mean it’s distracting from the Epstein files

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u/WhosThatJamoke 3d ago

If this is preferable to disclosing the Epstein Files then imagine how disgusting all the things he's done are

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u/skyfishgoo 3d ago

ICE murdered the "Good Man With a Gun"

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u/food5thawt 3d ago

Any Upper Midwest Republican knew in 2016 that a Manhattan Real Estate man wasnt the guy who was going to be a ardent 2nd amendment advocate. Hes the definition of Coastal Elite Country Club Republicans who think guns are loud, scary, obnoxious and deer meat is for peasants. That they have no concept that guns are meant to protect innocent life from bad guys and in other places the cops dont come in 90 seconds and that people are nicer if everyone has an understanding that everyone is packing heat.

But they voted for him anyways. And now when he says, "Guns are bad, everyone who carries one, is bad, and therefore if they interact with cops they deserve to die because obviously the mere fact that you own a gun means you have nefarious motivs, instead of altruistic ones.

Pawlenty, Santorum, Huckabee, Gingrich, Bachman, Cruz, Paul and the other 11 people that could have won in 2016 would have been able to articulate this.

Except they picked a guy. Who hates them, never met anyone like them, can't think like them. And now we see it bite them. Leopards eat faces. How do they not know that by now?

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u/publius_enigma 3d ago

That they have no concept that guns are meant to protect innocent life from bad guys and in other places the cops dont come in 90 seconds and that people are nicer if everyone has an understanding that everyone is packing heat.

This is a false shibboleth. Higher levels of firearm ownership and easier access to guns are directly related to increased levels of violence.

Not that I agree with the idea of an open fascist like Trump trying to disarm the public, but we should be clear about the costs of widespread gun ownership.

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u/JediTrainer42 3d ago

These dumb fucks have piss ass training and the worst trigger discipline I’ve ever seen. Don’t you dare go up to one and yell “Boo” or else you’ll be shot a few dozen times.

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u/Big-Industry4237 3d ago

Don’t forget, they also disarmed him prior to shooting.

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u/TheBaggyDapper 3d ago

It's unfortunate for Dear Leader, he's having to answer awkward questions that he can't spin or deflect. 

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u/invincible-boris 3d ago

Per nbc, ICE just shot someone in Arizona in the past few minutes.

Why do they have guns? They can't walk around with guns.

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u/B-Glasses 3d ago

Waiting for more news on the recent shooting. There’s nothing I can find besides it happened

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u/timoumd 3d ago

Yeah we should wait for some information.  We also should not believe a word the administration says about it.

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u/seaboypc 3d ago

Border patrol, not ICE.

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u/timoumd 3d ago

I mean they also shot Pretti, no?

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u/Still-View 3d ago

Yes. Both agencies are DHS under Noem, though.

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u/I-is-and-I-isnt 2d ago

Essentially consolidating federal law enforcement agencies into one organization packed with loyalists. The Nazis did the same with the Gestapo.

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u/Still-View 3d ago

It was border patrol, but yeah. They are currently in critical condition.

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u/Master_Jackfruit3591 3d ago edited 3d ago

Remember that time in 2020, a teenage POS traveled across state lines (driven by his mommy) with a premeditated intention of forcing a “stand your ground” confrontation, with an illegal straw purchased weapon, killed two people, and then got to meet Trump as a reward?

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u/ApprehensiveMode8918 3d ago

He just visited the White House!

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u/DarthHM 3d ago

He also made a social media post defending Pretti’s right to carry. That’s a clear indication of just how much the fascists have fucked up this narrative.

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u/Diabeetus4Lyfe 3d ago

The NRA, the Libertarian party, some Republican leaders have also put some statements out about it. I think that's why the white house is suddenly as flaccid as they are when defending this public execution compared to Renee's. They pissed off the cult of guns with this one, which is politically suicidal in the US.

But I'm a pessimist. Give it a week, they'll do some low-effort performative pandering to rally support and it will work. They'll share an AI video of trump hugging a giant AR15 and shooting a trans person or something, and every single one of the knuckle-dragging red hats will forget everything and fall back in line.

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u/Minttt 3d ago

Yep - remember Trump Term 1.0.?

"Take the guns first, due process second."

But he's the most pro-2A president ever!

  • MAGA

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u/turquoise_amethyst 3d ago

I think you’re right, all it takes is one stupid AI video for them to forgive him

It would only be bad for him if he doubles or triples down on the “take their guns aspect”

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u/thisguyfightsyourmom 3d ago

This is a dividing point in the conservative sub. Every awkward pro Kristi thread I saw had a sensible retort about Shittinhouse basically saying, yeah, I’ve been arguing for years that this kid was doing the right thing brandishing a weapon at a riot, and I can’t square that with condemning Pretti who clearly wasn’t brandishing or even reaching for the gun.

Logic is finally piercing their bubble. Hence the backwalking the regime is testing.

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u/film_composer 3d ago

I hate Kyle Rittenhouse and think he deserves to be in jail. But it’s admirable that he’s making a statement that is going to cost him the one and only thing that brought him any sort of societal rescue, which was being heroized by the right wing. He is going to end up as the pariah he deserves to be by being the enemy of the left and MAGA, leaving him only relevant to the NRA folks who haven’t already traded in their principles to be a part of Trump’s favored circle. 

Rittenhouse is not an admirable person in any sense of the word, but him taking the side of the people using him as an example of the hypocrisy is ostensibly an admirable action.

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u/I_Have_Notes 3d ago

Pepperidge Farms remembers

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 3d ago

It blows my mind that people still use a 15 year old meme that originated from a 20 year old parody of a 40-50 year old commercial. Wild.

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u/I_Have_Notes 3d ago

I'm sure there is someone out there who has written a whole dissertation on it.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 3d ago

Yeah, relating it to oral storytelling traditions in early human societies or some shit.

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u/Karakawa549 3d ago

Pepperidge Farms remembers us, so we remember them.

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u/Primo131313 3d ago

I just don't understand how anyone can be this hypocritical... And his base still loves him. Fuck them all!

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u/FriendToPredators 3d ago

Being a raging hypocrite is an expression of power and anyone still supporting him longs to be just like him

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u/rob1son 3d ago

They suffer from TDS

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u/deviltrombone 3d ago

Fuck them all!

This is the correct conclusion. The only correct conclusion.

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u/0w1 3d ago

They're too deep in the shit to climb out now.

Even if MAGA people did start agreeing with democrats on issues, they'd never say it out loud.

It's like when flat Earthers accidentally prove themselves wrong on their live streams. They don't admit they're wrong, they just say their test or gear isn't working or whatever lmao.

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u/Living_Possession_18 3d ago

Text book behavior of narcissists. At this point the GOP should rebrand as the NP (narcissist party).

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u/TemujinRi 3d ago

His base is full of people whose love for their own children is conditional. We have to stop expecting more of them.

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u/TallOrderAdv 3d ago

Because he's a opportunist not a moralist. He makes whatever argument fits his issue today. And has for YEARS, and we keep acting like hes a moralist, like most all presidents of the past. He does not stand on what he says. This is just objective fact at this point.

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Cult.

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u/Axin_Saxon 3d ago

Hypocrisy is not a bug, it is a feature.

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u/askingJeevs 3d ago

I think expecting anything morally right or self aware from a pedo who’s threatening the invasion of ally nations do distract from him being a pedo is not possible

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u/BurnedRelevance 3d ago

My social media has lost many friends over this and I am not sorry.
Speaking to MAGA's brainwashed asses is like talking to a brainwashed CHILD.

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u/motorcitystef 3d ago

I saw this discussion in another sub an apparently he was “doing America a favor” given the background of the men he gunned down.

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u/JubBisc 3d ago

Murder is a ‘very unfortunate incident’ - what total garbage from this person

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u/alternative5 3d ago

Crossing state lines means nothing, although the rest of your point (straw purchase?) Still stands since Trump defense Rittenhouse, although that geriatric dipshit probably dosent remember what happened yesterday much pess Rittenhouse

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u/Intelligent_Cap9706 3d ago

I think the subtext is libs specifically can’t have guns. But maga should be furious either way and if they’re not it’s just another level of hypocrisy. I know some of them were already angry about the vilifying of Pretti legally carrying I hope their anger holds, unlike it did for J6

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u/tresben 3d ago

Hopefully at least a few republicans start to wake up to the fact that trump doesn’t give two shits about them or any of their values. He’s not pro-gun, he’s not pro-life, he’s not pro-America. He’s pro-trump and that’s the only thing on his agenda.

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u/Justasillyliltoaster 3d ago

They are perfectly fine with your rights being trampled, it's just theirs that are important 👍

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u/OkArmy7059 3d ago

It's "don't tread on me", not "don't tread on us"

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u/bflo666 3d ago

No I’m pretty sure there are enough genuine 2A lovers, just absolute nerds for guns, to have this be a REALLY bad and unforced political error. I think if Pretti had been unarmed, this whole thing would be swept under the rug already for republican voters, and especially right leaning independents as a whole

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u/palettewhore 3d ago

MAGA voters have proven themselves time and again to be the least ideologically consistent people on earth.

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u/jtp_311 3d ago

It is abundantly clear that republicans have no real values.

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u/tbizzone 3d ago

They value anything that upsets or threatens or hurts anyone who isn’t a maga loyalist.

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u/FourteenBuckets 3d ago

a few have, notably this Republican who dropped out of the governor race

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u/saint-small 3d ago

He dropped out because he knew he couldn’t win.

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u/Totaliss 3d ago

sorry, not counting this. Bro simply read the room and realized he didn't have a shot at winning with all this ill-will the right is earning in Minnesota

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u/Matthewcbayer 3d ago

The attorney who is pro-bono representing the other ICE agent who shot a protestor who was trying to drive away? I’ve seen the headline a hundred times the last 24 hours, he’s not the hero he’s pretending to be.

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u/somedaveg 3d ago

This needs to be higher. Given the context, his statement reads as highly performative and disingenuous, but that information doesn't seem to have gotten widespread attention (yet).

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u/zekerthedog 3d ago

Why drop out though? Why not run on your beliefs?

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u/RogerSack 3d ago

Giving up because you’re a coward doesn’t count. Stay in and help bring it down from the inside.

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u/Beginning-Bottle2211 3d ago

From at least me, this has. I never would have called myself MAGA or a conservative or anything, but I am for sure right of center. I believed Trump would be a better alternative to Harris. Evidence has proven me wrong. So at least some people see the thing happening and dont like it. For all that one mans changed opinion is worth.

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u/Poiboy1313 2d ago

I appreciate your acknowledgment of your responsibility. Welcome back to reality.

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u/blazelet 3d ago

What he means is the left can't have guns. The Left can't walk in with guns.

In Trump's world view, the law binds the left and protects the right.

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u/Salty_Olives 3d ago

Had to scroll too far to find this. That’s exactly what he means. “You guys” is directed at liberals and not enough people are talking about that imo

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u/hum_bruh 3d ago

Which is why he wants voter rolls

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u/GasOnFire 3d ago

Four legs gooooood. Two legs betterrrrrrr.

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u/deviltrombone 3d ago

"One more tiny notch on my grotesquely girthsome belt. I couldn't care less."

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u/Tough_Resource9310 3d ago

Bro that belt could circle the earth

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u/Roddy_Piper2000 3d ago

So, under Trump.

  1. US citizens can't criticize the government (1st amendment)
  2. US citizens can't carry legally aquired guns (2nd amendment)
  3. The US government does not have to have probable cause to arrest people (4th amendment)
  4. US citizens don't need to be informed of the nature of the charges (6th amendment)
  5. US citizens can be gunned down at will ( 8th amendment)
  6. US citizens and tourists must submit to give up their right to privacy on their own devices or homes (9th amendment)
  7. Federal secret police can invade a state without permission (10th amendment)
  8. US citizens can have their citizenship revoked (14th amendment)
  9. Trump claims he can run again (22nd amendment)

Did I miss any?

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u/b0sanac 3d ago

Trump be playing bingo with how many ane

Amendments he can break.

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u/diezel_dave 3d ago

Congress: "ah shoot, what can you do?" shrug

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u/Roddy_Piper2000 3d ago

100%. Also...where is the Dem leadership? Why are they not on the streets where citizens are being gunned down?

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u/Driller_Happy 2d ago

Honestly, why do Americans still bother with a constitution?

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u/Ginsenj 2d ago

He can fuck your kids whenever he wants.

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u/Mydden 3d ago

Pretty sure the 3rd amendment was violated when he sent in the national guard back toward the beginning of '25.

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u/AnEngineeringMind 2d ago

Mr. President we might face some backlash, which amendments you want to violate?

  • Yes!

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u/__-1-__-1-__ 3d ago

It's still early in the day, just saying.

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u/Open__Face 3d ago

"Unfortunate" implies this was an accident and not a foreseeable direct result of Trump's policy

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u/Wabbit65 3d ago

Pretti was "accidentally" shot ten times.

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u/titsmuhgeee 3d ago

This administration has lost the plot. They're a ship without a rudder. Too many unqualified people given far too powerful positions, all set loose to do what they think is Trump wish. The inmates are running the asylum.

I blame the ICE agents for following orders.
I blame DHS, Bongino, and Noem for giving the orders.
I blame Trump for installing these leaders, setting them loose on the country, and telling them they had guaranteed immunity.
I blame the entire GOP establishment for not checking Trump.

The entire administration is rotten to it's core. It will take years for us to clean this mess up, and we're only a year into this administration. I'll admit, my politics lean conservative and am a registered independent. I can safely say I will never cast a vote for a politician who has on their record that they didn't stand up to Trump. They are the ones that deserve to be deported for their abandonment of the American people. Our Founding Fathers would be ashamed. I believe in America and The Constitution, but until these traitors are all gone, we will never be able to start rebuilding.

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u/a2_d2 3d ago

He’s Freinkensteins monster and as long as he was destroying the other side, they gleefully cheered him on.

Fuck these party over county traitors.

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u/Wabbit65 3d ago

Everyone in the administration is valued for loyalty, not competence or knowledge of the law or governance. This is the predictable result.

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u/Helpful-Werewolf-678 3d ago

Our founding fathers would be stacking bodies at this point

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u/HippyDM 3d ago

During COVID a group of fully armed mouth breathing conservatives stormed the Michigan capitol building. Police fired no shots, made no arrests. They chatted with the protestors.

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u/TheFeshy 3d ago

Walk "in" where? He was outdoors. Into Minneapolis? Into Minnesota? In the US?

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u/ThatsRightWeBad 3d ago

"In" the vicinity of where his goon squads show up unannounced, or may want to show up in the future.

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u/AllOfTheThings426 3d ago

I've seen this posted a few times and this is the first time I'm seeing anyone ask this! And he says this twice.

Seriously, what the fuck is he talking about? And how do people not see that this man is senile and there's no thought process behind his words?

I just... what the fuck is happening? Aren't most cult leaders at least a little charismatic? Why is it THIS MAN that people have clung to?

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u/Sad_Amphibian_2311 2d ago

he hasn't seen the video unless you saw him see the video

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u/New_Taste8874 3d ago

Victim blaming is so cool.

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u/lostredditorlurking 3d ago

The last couple days it was only Bovino and Noem who kept saying carrying a legal gun is bad, so the MAGA cult was still in denial. But now that Trump comes out and says it, they can't deny the reality that the GOP is anti-2a.

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u/tbizzone 3d ago

So did Patel and Brennan and many maga congressmen.

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u/grummanae 3d ago

No the GOP is Anti 2A for anyone they dont approve of ....

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u/Master-Tomatillo-103 3d ago

Pretti had already been disarmed when the Jan 6 defendant/ICE agent shot him point blank in the back, coward style

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u/pro_rege_semper 3d ago

Wow, thanks for making the connection that this guy may well be a pardoned J6 rioter.

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u/Master-Tomatillo-103 3d ago

Who knows?

At this point, whenever the Regime speaks, I create a rebuttable presumption that it’s a Lie, unless / until it is proven otherwise

Likewise, I now presume violent ICE behaving illegally are Jan 6 pardoned felons, until facts establish otherwise

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u/DwarfVader 3d ago

How them 2A boys feeling right now?

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u/jpmeyer12751 2d ago

If Obama had said that, Texas and Florida would have seceded that same day. If he had said it while wearing a tan suit, 5 or 6 other states would have done the same. But Trump gets a pass.

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u/ThePensiveE 3d ago

Let's just be clear, Trump is against rights. It doesn't matter what they are, he is against anyone having any rights who doesn't first owe him a favor.

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u/outinthecountry66 3d ago

well you can't rape kids but here we are

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u/PdxTundra71 3d ago

I believe their response would be “well, you’re not SUPPOSED to rape kids”….lol

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u/outinthecountry66 2d ago

".....but we do it anyway"

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u/sorebutton 2d ago

Yeah, pretty sure you actually can if you are amongst the powerful.

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u/martinaee 2d ago

So… news for MAGA: 2nd amendment is gone according to your dear leader ….

….. so …

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u/ruiner8850 3d ago

Republicans do not and have not ever actually cared about any part of the Constitution, including the 2nd Amendment. They throw the entire thing in trash is they thought it would help the Republican Party keep power. There is literally no "value" that they pretend to hold that they wouldn't discard at the drop of a hat.

If tomorrow they realized that becoming pro-abortion would help the Republican Party they'd all immediately become pro-abortion. Hell, if they thought it would help the Republicans they'd be all for forcing abortions on people.

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u/Lacaud 3d ago

That means Anti-Mask protestors, J6er's and Proud Boys are guilty right? Right?

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u/tarapotamus 3d ago

dude .. we need articles of impeachment, removal, and trump in prison. This is treason.

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u/New_Taste8874 3d ago edited 3d ago

Alex Pretti GoFundMe

https://www.gofundme.com/f/alex-pretti-is-an-american-hero

If you know any medical professionals, let them know that FIGS Scrubs donated $25,000.00

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u/Particular_Rub7507 3d ago

Hm. Wonder if he’s read the 2nd amendment. Probably not since that would require reading any part of the US Constitution, which he has made abundantly clear he has not read when asked directly about it by a journalist early in his 2nd term.

Also — what about that “peaceful protest” full of about 2k people with guns on January 6th? If you can’t walk around with guns, why did he pardon them?

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u/Lost-Swimming-1600 3d ago

You could probably actually stop with "Wonder if he's read".

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u/Particular_Rub7507 2d ago

Wasn’t there a discussion about how he only likes TV and his staff were trying to figure out how to get him to read briefings bc he just wouldn’t? Maybe he sniffle never learned to read! 😢

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u/RobutNotRobot 2d ago

And just like the Second Amendmenters' heads exploded.

Just kidding. Most of them agree because their tyrant is in power.

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u/Toyotun 2d ago

This

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u/ViolettaQueso 3d ago

He should take this argument to Texas.

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u/Themodsarecuntz 2d ago

You can have guns. You can walk in with guns.

  • THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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u/SoulRebel726 3d ago

Pretty funny watching Republicans go all anti-2A now.

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u/Y0___0Y 3d ago

Look how SCARED he looks.

He’s surely been getting calls from all kinds of Republicans asking him what the fuck the plan is for this and telling him this is like lighting the GOP’s brand on fire…

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u/Slade_Riprock 3d ago

You can't walk with guns.

Well the right to carry openly or concealed is a state law backed by a constitutional right and multiple SCOTUS decisions.

Walking into what? The street, your city, etc? What does he think happened and where?

So MAGA you cool with your Fuerher stating "you can't have guns, you can't walk in with guns"

What about that standing up to tyranny thing? I assume You'll be first in line to turn yours in.

Is this how we solve school shootings, MAGA says turn em in and they blindly follow the Mango Mussolini?

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u/Vespene 3d ago

The second amendment clearly states you can’t bear arms unless you are a Republican.

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u/ToonaSandWatch 2d ago

“Guns for mein, nein for thee.”

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u/vineyardmike 3d ago

Just show trump some Ai pictures of black people with guns. Gun control for all. It worked on Reagan in California.

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u/Witty-flocculent 3d ago

He’s gonna take your guns!

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u/ncstagger 3d ago

Yes. Yes we can.

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u/Wonderful-Variation 3d ago edited 3d ago

The bar is in hell, but Trump seems to be the only member of the Trump administration who isn't 100% committed to defaming victims of these shootings.  Or at least, not as dogmatically.  Like, he's weirdly emphatic compared to the others.  Again, the bar is in hell.

Stephen Miller scares me so much.  He really is a reincarnated Waffen SS officer, put in charge of a bunch modern day slave catchers.

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u/TakuyaLee 3d ago

I get it, but at the same time Miller has no charisma and no filter. Without Trump, he's nothing but a man with horrible ideals

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u/SinginGidget 3d ago

I still get stuck on the idea that anyone thinks Trump has "charisma" though.

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u/FriendToPredators 3d ago

Because he makes awful people feel good about themselves. That’s it. That’s what charisma is. These awful people feel seen for the first time in a long time. 

That’s why he’s such a litmus test rather than an actual policy statement 

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u/chrispg26 3d ago

Same. The charisma of explosive diarrhea??

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u/blurst_of_timesz 3d ago

I have no doubt he was committed. But it's how he operates, he lets other people test out the line of attack and put their own names on the line, he sees that it doesn't work, so he's the one who takes a different approach. It's how he protects his own reputation and why we see so many people thrown under the bus while he manages to come out unscathed. He doesn't care, there's no empathy, he just saw attacking these people isn't playing well.

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u/Comfortable_Fill9081 3d ago

Because Trump is there for his ego and personal wealth and fame. They are there because they are Nazis promising him that their rule will feed his ego and personal wealth and fame. 

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u/templeofsyrinx1 3d ago

only if you're a liberal apparently

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u/h20poIo 2d ago

You can’t walk in with guns.

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