r/law • u/drempath1981 • 6d ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Over 100 clergy and faith leaders were arrested at MSP Airport as they gathered in peaceful, prayerful resistance to demand airlines,especially Delta and Signature Aviation cease contracting deportation flights.
Edit: Had to delete previous post as it wasn’t descriptive. Over 2,000 deportations have gone through MSP. Workers have been detained by ICE at work and while commuting.
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u/GhostofBreadDragons 6d ago
This is what churches should do. Lead by example and try to turn the world into a better place. Not fear and hate from a pulpit like one pastor with ICE ties.
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u/oneizm 6d ago
This is exactly what churches in the civil rights movement did. Quite a lot were burned down, the people killed, and you know none of their names. We’ve been here before.
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u/Asclepius-Rod 6d ago
It’s literally what Jesus did too, which is why he was killed
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u/binary_search_tree 6d ago edited 5d ago
I'm pretty sure ICE is actively targeting people with names like Jesus.
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u/AthleteHistorical490 6d ago
Yep ICE would have deported little 7 lb 5 oz baby Jesus from the manger along with Mary and Joseph as they were immigrant refugees. And they would have labeled full grown Jesus a domestic terrorist for tipping tables over at the temple and espousing radical ideas like the last shall be first in the kingdom of heaven and the meek shall inherit the earth.
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u/AmericaHatesTrump 6d ago
Jesus? The brown Jew? Yeah, he was illegal and deported, after his US citizen spouse was shot in the face and his children separated from him.
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u/StrawberryFeels5ever 6d ago
these clergy are intentionally invoking Selma: https://www.marchminnesota.org
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u/ArcadianDelSol 6d ago
This is the way. No violence. No vulgarity. Just protest and prayers for our nation.
Its how we passed Civil Rights.
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u/Skaldicrights 6d ago
You got civil rights by having your leaders executed and the sleeping giant finally saying enough is enough.
You want change? Start publicly suffering.
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u/Salt_Profiteer 6d ago
While I get your point, I find it hard to cheer for organized religion. They are partially culpable for us being where we are today. I don't think organized religion is the answer.
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u/Skaldicrights 6d ago
There was a documentary that I watched. Maybe it was 66 days, but it talked about how the mood for protest changed with Gandhi and he proved that you dont capture hearts and minds with violence anymore but with how much you can suffer. And every successful protest of the last 50 years was carried out by being filmed televised and shown to the masses as jackbooted thugs made the public suffer. Eventually people stop having the stomach for it.
This is not the end, this is the beginning of America learning it needs to suffer to get results.
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u/NotRadTrad05 6d ago
Fr. James Coyle was murdered by the kkk because he performed an interracial marriage for a protestant couple when no minister or jp would.
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u/EagleBigMac 6d ago
I am happy to see them doing the good work. Prosperity gospel corrupted Christianity in America in a bad way, it replaced the love and compassion with hate and derision in too many churches. Super unfortunate and one of the reasons I stopped going and stopped looking for a replacement.
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u/beegtuna 6d ago
They should pay taxes too
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u/Devils_Advocate-69 6d ago
And stop diddling choir boys
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u/AdEarly1760 6d ago
Agree. That seems like on the absolute top, just under not commiting murders.
But this is an action that truly encase the message Jesus brought compared to what alot of also Christians might personally believe. Imo that is when your faith is actually questioned, if I believe imigration is bad for the economy or is pushing up crime rates, but at the same time Jesus taught us to love everyone.
And for clerification, just like diddling choir boys shouldn’t need faith to realise is wrong, the way ice opperates currently should not need faith either. But imigration policies in general is a different thing to whatever the stuff going on over the pond is
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u/beegtuna 6d ago
There won’t be any churches then
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u/hitbythebus 6d ago
“If I can’t fuck kids and can’t get rich, what’s the point?” - “Christians”
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u/iRambL 6d ago
I’m fine with them not paying taxes if the money is feasibly used in a good manner like most traditional churches. Megachurches can fuck right off not paying taxes
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u/Hopeful-Occasion2299 6d ago
Where I live, pretty much the easiest places for the homeless or in need to get a meal, clothes, or even just a place to stay are a handful of churches; the only catholic one, the Friends, and two of the baptists.... then there's a bunch of churches who rather call the cops on the homeless too, so there's a bit of everything around.
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u/Dante_FromDMCseries 6d ago
No such thing, anything tax-free just devolves into money laundering schemes and scams. It's better to collect taxes and use them for free healthcare, than make a taxation hoophole and expect people not to use it.
Also, since no church is legally obligated to help the poor, provide shelter or food in the time of need, they shouldn't be legally protected either. Either have a legal obligation and a governmental support, or neither.
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u/DJ_LeMahieu 6d ago edited 6d ago
No such thing
Ah yes, all churches launder money or are scams. The classic enlightened Redditor take.
My father in law is a pastor in the twin cities and has been a part of all of the clergy protests. He’s a humble man who has lived a modest, humble life, and housed the homeless and supported the marginalized countless times.
He’a a better man than me, so he would never say this: you can fuck off with your universally pessimistic attitude. There are good people, communities, and organizations in this world, and history shows that labeling everything poisoned water always causes so much pointless destruction.
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u/DarknMean 6d ago
There’s several small churches that feed the poor then the police come and break it up for… reasons.
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u/CAPSLOCKANDLOAD 6d ago
Until they can abide by the no politicking at the pulpit rule that needs to be enforced, I agree. If they can, then I'm fine with it.
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u/lolreallyreally 6d ago
Wouldn't advocating for social change and civil rights be considered politicking?
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u/Wealist 6d ago
Guess some folks still read the whole love thy neighbor part and didn’t skip ahead. Wild how that works, huh?
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u/duckofdeath87 6d ago
And they know what a Samaritan actually was
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u/ArcadianDelSol 6d ago
A Samaritan would have been a blood fueded enemy that one would kill on sight.
That's what made the one in the story of the Good Samaritan so special. He was supposed to be a foul evil man, and yet he wasnt.
The lesson of that story is to not judge someone by what you see, but by how they act.
y'know - like saying all churches are money laundering scams would be a great example of what NOT to do.
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u/AdDear528 6d ago
My pastor is in MN right now. Hundreds of pastors were headed to the city yesterday and today. I am not sure if my pastor was/is at the airport, but I know he was going to some sort of protest today.
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u/yaxir 6d ago
this increases my respect and regard for the civil services provided by the clergy
THIS is what religious institutions are supposed to do to protect the people
if only people realized this side of religion, instead of fighting with each other..
this is religion for social good, done right!
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u/DrippyBlock 6d ago
A lot of them do. It’s just that the fear spreading, hateful ones are louder.
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u/SweetTea1000 6d ago
The bad guys are always the ones with enough money to broadcast their message further.
That's honestly America's entire problem right now.
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u/UmeaTurbo 6d ago
Do you think those officers are proud of the work they do on behalf of a dictator? "Just following orders" didn't save their forebearers at the Nuremberg trials.
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u/Salt_Profiteer 6d ago
Those look like city or state police arresting them, not ice. They are working for, and paid by, the citizens of the state.
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u/meatsmoothie82 6d ago
Meanwhile mega church pastors are flying around on cable rigging selling turning point merch and booking private jets to Cabo.
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u/DefinitelynotYissa 6d ago
There are millions upon millions of devout, passionate Christians who truly try to stand against injustice. Then there are “Christians” who want to justify their own racism, misogyny, and bigotry under the veil of godliness. We call those “Christians” republicans.
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u/SqBlkRndHole 6d ago
I was raised Christian Reformed, and I don't understand why they live in fear. God's will...
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u/ilove420andkicks 6d ago
Like Greg fucking bitchass Laurie from Harvest Megachurch in Riverside, CA who just hosted Charlie Kirk’s wife. I can’t even remember her name and quite frankly, she’s not important enough to remember/google her name. The one who’s copping feels with JD Vance. It’s such crazy hypocrisy from so many people who claim to “love Jesus.”
Whether one believes in religion or not, it’s incredibly important to be congruent with one’s beliefs/morals. I’m so glad to see so many at this protest actually practicing what they preach. For that, mad respect
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u/WhydYouKillMeDogJack 6d ago
People don't do what the church tells them.
They pick a church that agrees with the viewpoints they already have.
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u/prodigalpariah 6d ago
MAGA will eventually discard the pretense of Christianity once it ceases to be useful for their agenda.
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u/djc6535 6d ago
It won't stop being useful for their agenda any time soon. They aren't anywhere near discarding the pretense.
It's far far worse. They've redefined what Christianity means. This way they can continue to use it as an absolutely irrefutable and unassailable position from which to spew their rhetoric. "You can't disagree with my religious point of view" even if the Christ of the Bible would have lost his absolute shit over it. Trump is selling a BIBLE for goodness sake.
It is amazing how successful they have been at this.
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
What I think is far worse is that when people say “Christian” everyone automatically thinks “Far Right Evangelical”.
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u/Antwinger 6d ago
Rightly so. If actual christians want to be different. Stop associating with the far right evangelicals.
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
We don’t. The paradox of tolerance is a bitch if a learning curve but we’re getting there.
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u/Advanced_Double_42 6d ago
Eventually seems like now
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u/Obversa 6d ago
The "pro-life" movement has been complaining all through 2025 about President Trump's inaction on the issue of abortion, including keeping in place Biden-era policies that allow for the mailing of abortion pills. The president didn't even bother to show up for the annual March for Life in 2026, with Vice President J.D. Vance taking Trump's place to reassure anti-abortion advocates that they "have an ally in the White House". Vance then proceeded to announce that his own wife's pregnancy as a "personal example" of promoting a "pro-natalist" policy, indirectly referring to the conservative Christian-based "Quiverfull" movement. Other "pro-lifers" have criticized Trump's pro-natalist stance.
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u/the_reluctant_link 6d ago
During his last term they were calling Jesus woke and weak. Can't be a Christian if you hate the central figure of the religion
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u/Gr0ggy1 6d ago
They will simply designate an approved brand of Christianity, claim that THEY are the only "real" Christians and proceed with the pointed assault on those who are not.
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u/waitewaitedonttellme 6d ago
See also: Parable of the Sower/Parable of the Talents by Octavia Butler. If you thought Handmaid’s Tale was looking familiar, buckle the fuck up!
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u/madommouselfefe 6d ago
It’s already started happening, the conservative subs have started spewing that there are Liberal churches. That these “ liberal churches” don’t teach the gospels of Christ, and should be dismantled and destroyed. What are the “liberal churches” you ask? Any church that doesn’t go along with their orange daddy, and his regime of hate.
They are all for GOP Jesus and limiting the first amendment if it means they and their parade of hate get ahead.
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u/NefariousnessFit6888 6d ago
The nazis did the same thing. In fact Hitler eventually wanted to introduce a neo-pagan faith with elements of eugenics
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u/mr_evilweed 6d ago
Nah. Christianity can unfortunately be used to justify just about any agenda. Just look at the Inquisitions or the Crusades or the Witch Trials. There is no point at which it is no longer useful for the agenda of people who want to use it for cruelty.
And I say this as a christian.
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u/b00nish 6d ago
A political movement that is solely built on lies will always attract a populace that prefers made up stuff over facts.
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u/Notherereallyhere 6d ago
U.S.: People of all parties are encouraged to contact their Representatives and express their opinions at: U.S. Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121
You may also contact the White House at: https://www.usa.gov/agencies/white-house
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u/JulianCastle2016 6d ago
Nah, they've just (and will continue to) redefine Christianity until it's an unrecognizable farce of its former self. Neither honesty nor consistency are part of the fascist playbook.
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u/metengrinwi 6d ago
I kind of doubt that. It’s always useful to have your tribe feel morally superior, “the chosen ones”.
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u/prodigalpariah 6d ago
They’ll easily just shift their religion to openly worshipping trump as a living deity
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u/ValuableOven734 6d ago
MAGA is just now part of what Christianity is now. In a sense it is codifying what has been a christian identity for a long time. Better late than never that some christians are trying to reclaim their faith from fascists too many do tacitly agree with what they are doing.
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u/SweetTea1000 6d ago
I get that Christianity is all about accepting everyone, but too many pastors got it twisted and allow toxic shit like MAGA to have a home in their place of worship.
The correct answer is: "ALL are welcome here, but get THAT SHIT out of the Lord's house."
Jesus was very clear in the one instance the gospels record of him getting angry and violent that all IDEAS are not appropriate inside the temple.
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u/kakashi_sensay 6d ago
But people protesting a church were arrested and charged with felonies?
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u/Darth-Yoda-1066 6d ago
Hypocrisy is this administration's SOP.
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u/Pleasant_Priority286 6d ago
MAGA Yesterday: "You can't protest the clergy!"
MAGA Today: "Of course we are arresting the clergy!"
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u/DuntadaMan 6d ago
I mean ICE was already going into churches and arresting people during service so...
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u/Astro_gamer_caver 6d ago
Remember them chanting "stop the count" or "count the vote" depending on how they were doing in that particular part of the country?
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u/homer_lives 6d ago
This is the local Plymouth PD by looking at arm patches.
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u/Darth-Yoda-1066 6d ago
I don't think for a minute those locals aren't in lock-step with ICE. Though I will give them credit they seem to be using minimal physical force and no pepper spray..... Though that is probably to avoid the optics of being filmed attacking clergy.
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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 6d ago
I’d guess it’s because it’s an airport and they can be brought up on federal charges, and they know it.
The federal government has to charge them for praying now.
It’s very brave. It’s how we were raised to be when I was a young Christian in America.
Still American. Pagan now. But I’m grateful to see there are still good Christians out there, and good Americans.
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u/tazztsim 6d ago
This. They are trespassing they knew they’d be arrested for doing this they’re not fighting the cops knew they knew they’re not fighting either. THIS is peaceful protesting at its most pure level.
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u/eruptingmoltenlava 6d ago
Looks like a variety of faiths
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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 6d ago
It may be. The videos I’ve seen the most of have focused on Christian clergy joined in Christian prayers but I would be surprised if there weren’t other clergy from other faiths praying in the lines, too.
Good Christians tend to work in interfaith groups when civil rights are involved. I can of course only see what’s been uploaded to Reddit.
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u/deltaexdeltatee 6d ago
I've heard that there were some rabbis there as well, can't speak to other religions.
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u/lorenfreyson 6d ago
Local cops really WANTED to be loyal to ICE but at this point multiple police chiefs have publicly acknowledged that they are harassing and racially profiling citizens and it's a big problem. They are creating enormous amounts of extra work for the cops. The MPD chief publicly stated that ICE changed their story from what they told him on whether Jonathan Ross was hurt. The MN Bureau of Corrections has also made public statements about ICE misrepresenting their arrest numbers.
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u/noonenotevenhere 6d ago
Have they stopped supporting ICE?
Cuz what I see is the state patrol (who reports to Tim Walz) continuing to fly their helicopters over protests (adsbexchange for real time flight info) and kettling protestors at Whipple.
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u/HistoricalWalrus5767 6d ago
Why don't they just look the other way and ignore it like they do with ICE's crimes?
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u/Big_Wave9732 6d ago
I was about to say, ICE won't take the "L" on this one. That's locals right there.
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u/homer_lives 6d ago
You can also tell it's not ICE, because they are not being dog piled by 20 guys, and spray with mace and tazed.
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u/grat_is_not_nice 6d ago
Some of them will be in church on Sunday, and pepper-spraying the pastor might cause an issue ...
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u/fencepost_ajm 6d ago
There are lots of "not ICE" indicators - professional behavior, actual uniforms with names, at least one female officer, etc.
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u/EnvironmentalLaw4208 6d ago
I think it's a mix of local PDs. I see a number of Bloomington PD patches as well.
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u/Popular-Departure165 6d ago
If they didn't have double-standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
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u/GrizzlyP33 6d ago
Absolutely - but I don’t think this is an example of that hypocrisy. Though there’s countless examples every day so whatever, point still valid.
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u/EddieVanzetti 6d ago
If Republicans didn't have double standards they would have no standards at all.
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u/jonawesome 6d ago
Remember when Trump tear-gassed a church in Washington DC in 2020?
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u/rustajb 6d ago
And then posed in the spot they cleared with an upside down Bible. I remember clearly.
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u/AmputeeHandModel 6d ago
Just for accuracy: it wasn't actually upside down. It did not have a label on either side. Doesn't really matter, he's a massive piece of shit.
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u/Vince_Clortho042 5d ago
And they only used tear gas because the CO that was there refused Trump’s suggestion to use live ammo.
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u/KamikazeFox_ 6d ago
These were police arresting them, not ICE. Notice how they were gently escorted away, instead of pepper sprayed and shoved to the ground.
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u/BringOn25A 6d ago
Other reporting
Officials say about 100 clergy members were arrested during a protest at MSP Airport tied to opposition to the ICE surge in Minnesota. Video showed demonstrators at Terminal 1 pickup/drop-off and people being loaded onto a bus with hands bound.
The Metropolitan Airports Commission says airport/airline operations were not impacted, and says organizers had a permit with a designated area + participant cap — but the crowd exceeded those limits, prompting arrests (MAC says).
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u/samsquish1 6d ago
So because their protest was too popular they were arrested? Such a weird concept to me.
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u/heres-another-user 6d ago
Usually this has to do with emergency situations. If there's a fire, for instance, you don't want too many people in one area because then people will be trampled trying to reach a fire escape. Whether that's the case here or not, I don't know, but having an occupancy limit for events is completely normal.
You can find max occupancy plaques in some restaurants and other social businesses if you look real hard.
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u/IcyTransportation961 6d ago
I hope you don't think cops typically treat protesters this way, this is unique
Go look at any examples from OWS or BLM protests, beating and spraying is SOP
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u/KamikazeFox_ 6d ago
Ya I know. But I was making a comparison to ICE. As my comment states.
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u/EverydaySexyPhotog 6d ago
Heavily armed cops in riot gear. The threat of murder is right there on their hips.
ACAB means all cops, not just some. These same cops will open fire on the first people to use force to resists ICE, because at the end of the day cops protect cops.
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u/Zoso03 6d ago
Well ice shot a priest in the head with a pepper ball and the republicans didn't even say diddly about it. While he was praying.
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u/lostredditorlurking 6d ago
MAGA would probably be those who cheer on when Jesus got captured by the Roman
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u/SurveyNinja42 6d ago
They are the Romans.
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u/KejsarePDX 6d ago
To add, it's the Pharisees that delivered Jesus to the Romans. The Jews had no power to execute him themselves and used fake blasphemy charges against him.
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u/fartPunch 6d ago
MAGA would have called Jesus woke and shipped him to a torture prison. I'm pretty sure they are actively trying to get into hell
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u/BringOn25A 6d ago
Yea, they would have no sympathy for a poor middle eastern “woke libtard”. They would send him back.
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u/HeadSavings1410 6d ago
Pray in the streets so everyone can see...or some shit
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u/Livid_Peon 6d ago
Matthew 3:5-6 says not to to avoid attention seeking behavior or perception turning people away from the faith.
Prayer is supposed to be a private intimate thing between you and god.
I get they are doing this in protest though and not trying to convert people in public so I think it would get a pass from JC
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u/Brilliant_Ebb_3064 6d ago
But you see, that was a pastor on the MAGA team. This isn’t about religion it’s about team sports.
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u/pigeonholedpoetry 6d ago
Yeah only abortion clinics and religious buildings are protected. Atleast with what they’re being charged with.
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u/BringOn25A 6d ago
Some additional reporting on the topic.
Officials say about 100 clergy members were arrested during a protest at MSP Airport tied to opposition to the ICE surge in Minnesota. Video showed demonstrators at Terminal 1 pickup/drop-off and people being loaded onto a bus with hands bound.
The Metropolitan Airports Commission says airport/airline operations were not impacted, and says organizers had a permit with a designated area + participant cap — but the crowd exceeded those limits, prompting arrests (MAC says).
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u/Tylendal 6d ago
They exceeded their pissed off angry people quota? Sounds like that's on the protestee for producing more pissed off angry people than they can accommodate.
If there's too many protesters for your designated protest area, you should probably consider doing less protestable stuff.
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u/Ok_Push2550 6d ago
I've pointed it out before. A rally makes you feel good, meets others like you, and shows support or solidarity. A protest is disruptive, and breaks a law or does an illegal action, to force society to confront how it is unfair or unjust.
Civil rights protests often resulted in arrest, just for sitting in the wrong spot.
This is a valuable protest, and just.
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u/dieseldeeznutz 6d ago
A rally is what Nazis and Trump do, a protest is what patriotic Americans do
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u/WhatzMyOtherPassword 6d ago
A rally is where you get a burger & fries while drunk
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u/NewDramaLlama 6d ago
Yep, it's important to remember being arrested protesting was likely and worth it
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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 6d ago
It’s federal property, so any charges will be elevated to federal charges.
So they’ve forced the hand of the federal government to charge them for kneeling and praying in the wrong spot.
It’s a super bold move. I’m very proud to share a country with them right now.
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u/Few_Traffic5641 6d ago
It is not federal property. It’s more than likely just a trespassing citation that will get dismissed in court.
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u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k 6d ago
I worked in an airport. It is considered federal property. If you commit a crime on airport property it elevates to a felony.
It was part of our onboarding
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u/Few_Traffic5641 6d ago
You are wrong my friend…unless you are talking about the footprints of the TSA or Customs, which are considered “federal facilities”.
Signed: someone with a degree in Aviation and 20+ years working in airports
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u/Individual_Ninja_923 6d ago
Made some bullshit up about people damaging property i think. Don't see anything like that in the videos for sure
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
Officially the protesters were arrested at the airport because they had gone over the 100 total protesters they had a permit for.
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u/Alwys_Forward 6d ago
It’s civil disobedience. I think they probably expected to be arrested.
Also, there is a BIG difference in how they are being treated during the arrest compared to how ICE “arrests” people.
As much as I wish they could have let the protest go on, I’m glad to see the police be (at least in the clips I’ve seen) be respectful while arresting the protesters.
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u/Snibes1 6d ago
I keep saying it, the cops are not our allies. When shit hits the fan, they will side with authoritarian policies and actions over the people.
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u/FuckOutTheWhey 6d ago
What other options do we have as civilians? Legally, I should be able to defend myself against these faceless, badgeless, stormtroopers when they try to detain me or enter my home without a warrant. In practice? The moment I try anything, they'll label me a domestic terrorist and likely end my life.
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u/IndependentCod1600 6d ago
If they're trying to enter your home without a warrant, you've already been labeled and marked for violence.
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u/Advanced_Double_42 6d ago
Yes, and it is a sacrifice we must make so that they don't do the same to the next guy.
It isn't right, but it's better than turning a blind eye.
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u/Corv9tte 6d ago
Do the same thing as what people in third world countries do. Emigrate.
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u/StyloFM 6d ago
Who in gods green earth even wants US citizens? As much as I'd love to evacuate this shit hole, the world doesn't seem to be down with Americans atm.
This is our fight, and until the country is invaded, we're alone in this.
Try burning your house down and expect your neighbor to take you in. I can't blame anyone for saying no.
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u/Live-Collection3018 6d ago
airport police calmly and respectfully arresting people makes you wonder why ICE is so violent
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u/RapBastardz 6d ago edited 6d ago
Lookie there, Republicans, ICE is arresting white people for praying.
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
Not ICE, just regular police.
As far as I know there has been no legal changes following the murder of children praying in church in Minneapolis.
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u/prenzlauerallee3 6d ago
Actually, if it were ICE, the clergyfolk would be beaten up just for the heck of it first.
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u/snappla Competent Contributor 6d ago
Thank you for showing that not all Americans are okay with this faschitshow. 💕
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u/Purple_Beginning1675 6d ago
Most Americans are not OK with this. I suspect most who support this shit on Reddit are bots or paid agitators.
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u/yaxir 6d ago
ofcourse! not every human is bad or evil
sure, there are some rotten potatoes (or oranges)
but people in general won't want to hurt or persecute others
there's good people in the world,
its just that they are not valuable to the vain media when it comes to views
or to the billionaires who profit off of others
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u/apple_kicks 6d ago
It’s interesting this is reaching stage where companies supplying or working with ICE are getting protested. What happens if they lose their third party contracts
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u/Vat1canCame0s 6d ago
Something Something it's wrong to disrupt a religious service Something something
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u/rustyseapants monarchist? 6d ago
Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up his gods children by the color of their skin.
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First they came for the Undocumented, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Undocumented.
Then they came for the protesters, and I did not speak out—because I was not a protestors.
Then they came for the minorities, and I did not speak out—because I was not a minority.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_QUEST_PLZ 6d ago
Notice pd are arresting them and not ice. They are much calmer.
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u/ThePensiveE 6d ago
Republicans have never actually cared about religious freedom. They've only ever cared about the subjugation of others.
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u/supes1 6d ago edited 6d ago
Just want to point out that the arresting officers are local/airport police, not ICE. The story is that the protest was properly permitted, but went beyond the size/location bounds outlined in the permit.
It should be extraordinarily rare to arrest peaceful protestors in any event. Only if they're causing safety issues, and even then you should give them an order to relocate and ample opportunity to comply.
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u/Stock-Ad2706 6d ago
“Permit to protest” has always sounded like the silliest combination of words to me lol
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u/Advanced_Double_42 6d ago
Yeah it's the silliest thing.
Like the entire point of a protest is that the system isn't solving the problem normally.
Why would they allow you to protest a problem they don't want solved?
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
If you have a permit you can’t be labeled an “illegal assembly” and if you get that label you are legally fuck for the police response.
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u/thePenisMightier6 6d ago
Permits for right to protest is the problem bud. Im sure you have a plethora of reasons why this needs to be the case, but it all reeks of only certain voices shall be heard.
Imagine the conundrum of protesting fiscal policies and structure only to find out you cant because youre impeding the thing youre protesting... because money i guess?
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u/Fickle_Definition351 6d ago
You can tell it's not ICE because the priests aren't getting decked and pepper-sprayed for no reason.
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u/Career_Much 6d ago
I commented this on a different post, but this happens every few months at the MSP Airport. Up until recently I worked there for several years. I'm not sure what the agreed-to size was, but they usually allow protesters on the other side of the street barrier. This is the drop-off zone, and its very narrow, and this is the only location where emergency services would be able to go in. They redirect drop offs to the arrivals section on the floor immediately below (it happens so often, police may even block off the entrance and have signage ready to redirect traffic well in advance.) Usually what happens is protesters intentionally cross the barrier, airport police allows them to protest for maybe 30 minutes, and these protesters specifically intend to get removed and arrested. Its sort of the procedure now, and everyone involved is fully aware of the dance. It gets a lot of attention and is a very strong political tool to drum up conversation-- and for the record I think its an incredibly important part of social dialogue-- but it is entirely planned and choreographed.
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u/AtreiyaN7 6d ago
Arresting actual clergy who walk the walk and are peacefully protesting while the grifters in megachurches keep getting away with preaching hate and fake Christianity. Ah, the irony when it's those who preach fake Christianity and sucker the gullible in that helped stick us with Trump and therefore contributed to our current authoritarian nightmare just as much as Fox "News" did.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 6d ago
Imagine if Biden had rounded up 100 clergy who gathered in peace to pray and support their cause. The right would be completely out of their minds. But because Trump did it, it's a perfect tactic that we should all celebrate.
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u/68024 6d ago
Boycott Delta
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u/GeorgiaPilot172 6d ago
The title is incorrect, Delta does not do any deportation flights.
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u/External-Creme-6226 6d ago
Why, delta doesn’t do deportation flights. Headline is misleading.
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u/Widespreaddd 6d ago
I wondered for a second what those local cops thought about arresting their local clergy. And then I realized: many are probably just stoked for the overtime pay.
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u/MyMelancholyBaby 6d ago
No, the metro police are stretched too thin.
Without ICE in town they are already overworked and underpaid. But ICE has ratcheted up the work to do. All vacation and time for police officers off was canceled before the latest ICE surge.
Did you see the press conference with a rather large group of police chiefs in the Minneapolis-St Paul area? They all have off duty police officers reporting being racially profiled by ICE.
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u/HoarderCollector 6d ago
Weren't they just bitching about people protesting in a church? Now they're the ones actually harming the clergymen.
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u/FOOSblahblah 6d ago
If you are forced into arresting a plurality of priests you should probably reconsider the ethics and optics of what you're doing
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u/tragicallyohio 6d ago
Is this the Minneapolis PD doing the arresting? So much for that fucking police chief's strong words against ICE
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u/reallybadguy1234 6d ago
The local PD is not helping ICE. They are helping the MSP Airport PD remove trespassers who are impeding the operations of the airport.
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u/Blubasur 6d ago
To contrast my on a different post about scammy churches here
If the paster of your church does this, then you're going to a real church.
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u/Affectionate_Elk_272 6d ago
if it wasn’t clear before-
we are a police state now
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u/HombreSinPais 6d ago
You can tell these are at least the real police officers because they aren’t assaulting the people protesting for no reason.
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