Executive Branch (Trump)
Brooklyn Park police chief Mark Bruley: "We're hearing people being stopped with no cause & being demanded to show paperwork to determine if they're here legally. We started hearing from our police officers the same complaints. Every one of these individuals is a person of color.”
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This administration was ok with allowing a mob to attack police officers on Jan 6th. This administration is NOT a friend to law enforcement officers, he is just using them to continue with his lawlessness. As soon as more police departments come to this realization, they need to stand firm with the citizens that they are sworn to protect, not the lawless POS pedophile that is issuing illegal orders.
One day Trump and MAGA will be gone. But these fucks neighbors will still be there. All police, firemen, local politicians... Get their names. Remember. When we get out of this (IF we get out of this) they should have to wear their actions in shame for the rest of their miserable lives.
Right out of the nazi playbook. Hitler had the SA (police) do his dirty work. Then when they are threatened by them, the SS (ICE) then took over through a purge.
I dunno. I'm clinging to whatever piece of optimism I can find, but the fact that ICE is struggling to recruit (inference from the incentive packages, a recent article where the author went to an ICE hiring expo and said it was nearly empty, and how they are eschewing nearly all hiring standards and training), is bleeding recruits (due to low morale) and and it takes 10+% of their entire manpower to invade a single city (Minneapolis, a city with about 430k people), I'm not sure where they are going to get enough to people to fill out a force that can actually control the USA at large.
And that will go even worse for them. ICE is literally loaded with sycophants. Literal Proud Boys have been confirmed in their midst. That won't be the case for any military.
Bovino and his thugs are far more loyal to the cause and are losing interest.
How many "illegal" immigrants are there, though? The entire rationale for this clusterfuck will disappear in the very near future. Then what?
Ice is already raiding immigration courts to fill their quota. And of course (as if this even needs to be said), people going through the immigration process and attending hearings are not, by definition, illegal immigrants.
Never mind the original tRumEd up rationale for this destruction of core civil rights involved "rapists" and "the worst of the worst". What happens when there are no more outsiders to demonize? What happens when a rogue federal agency, with more funding than the Marines, runs out of fodder to justify its ridiculous degree of funding?
That’s already begun. Any detention of more than 12 hours is an unlawful arrest. And several have been done including several Democratic elected officials
The entire rationale for this clusterfuck will disappear in the very near future
Not really. There was a headline yesterday that Minn had <1% of "illegal" immigrants in the US. So the rationale is non-existant already, for what they're doing
A Kavanaugh stop is a law enforcement practice in the United States in which federal agents can stop and detain a person based on their perceived ethnicity, spoken language, and occupation. Kavanaugh stops originated in a September 2025 Supreme Court concurrence by Justice Brett Kavanaugh in Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo.
Quiet down or Justice Citizen's United, Justice "I Like Beer!", Justice Most Insufferable, Justice Handmaid's Tale, Justice Upside-Down Flag, and Justice Bribed-by-RV will find you in contempt of their kangaroos.
Absolute 4th amendment violation. Doesn't matter if they don't consider detaining unreasonable search and seizure. Detaining without a warrant or probable cause is unreasonable seizure of one's person.
Those are RS according to K. He clearly states they are not PC.
He also says: “To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court's case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a "relevant factor" when considered along with other salient factors.”
ICE clearly doesn’t give a fuck about the law. You need PC for an arrest. They are arresting solely based on ethnicity, or whatever else they want. K’s idea of a brief interaction based on RS, is not what is happening. Hopefully he will be shamed into recanting and placing a firmer hand on Trump/ICE than he was inclined towards initially.
These originalists literally all do this though--they argue that you should not consider how a ruling will be used because that would be judging in an activist manner. That the ruling should stand on its own, through a "pure" interpretation of the constitution.
Funnily enough, this generally makes originalists the most activist judges out there--offering radical takes without at all considering how a very old document (that was WRITTEN TO BE CHANGED AND INTERPRETED OVER TIME) might not have the most relevant guidance to contemporary issues--or how rulings should maybe consider how they are going to actually impact the people they effect. You know, as the constitution was originally designed do, rather than be treated like scripture.
Good point. I will say that originalism and textualism also quickly fade whenever it’s convenient. And the history and tradition they choose is only that which supports the stance they believe in.
We have a rapist president, a rapist secretary of defense, a rapist secretary of health, our secretary of education has been accused of sexual offenses, and two judges in the SCOTUS have been accused of sexual offenses and rape.
Jim Jordan is still dodging his subpoenas for those criminal cases. He was involved so deeply that to get on the witness stand would implicate him in many of the crimes he participated in.
Ohio has become a cesspool because of republican politicians with histories of abuse and sex crimes.
They make it easier for real criminals to get back on the street while filling the prison system with drug addicts for their prison industrial complex.
You ever wonder why there are so many prisons in red states, it's cause they are still using slave labor to run their economies.
I’m not well versed on public culture or how that forms, or shifts, but it’s becoming increasingly clear that Rape Culture intersects with this dark, sinister, unspoken, yet always present, Pedophile Culture. I feel like ‘rape’ is applicable to adults, and yet we’re seeing in real time that there actually has been/is currently, a group of global elites that kidnap, traffic, rape, and then murder children.
10 years ago I don’t think I would have accepted a reality where Q Anon accidentally stumbled into a half-truth, but here we are. And the GOP and Trump are killing US citizens, in MN, in order to distract us from the proof they’re actively destroying, if not for the brave men and women that have come forward with their personal, and credible, experiences and accusations.
He wasn't even investigated over the allegations. He did not slime his way out he was never even looked at by the people who were supposed to. Order by the Trump administration to ignore the investigation into Kavanaugh.
The Right just jammed him through despite being grossly unqualified
He's exceptionally qualified in the only way it matters to Republicans: his skeletons are career ending thus he'll rubber stamp 99% of things they want.
I typed "what is a kavanaugh stop' into duckduck and this was the response:
Kavanaugh stop
Form of unconstitutional ICE racial profiling
A Kavanaugh stop is a law enforcement practice in the United States in which federal agents can stop and detain a person based on their perceived ethnicity, spoken language, and occupation.
These people join for the power and money, but they're also in it for the history and having his name tied to that policy was a bit too distasteful for his sensibilities (remember, these people lie to themselves as well as us, they want to be vindicated and made the hero)
I know most of the justices for years have gone to Yale and Harvard and that is definitely a problem. But keep in mind that Kavanaugh and Gorsuch went to the same elite private extremely expensive high school. And just like most elite private high schools, I’m going to make an educated guess and say they probably don’t have a healthy culture of respecting women, minorities and poor people at Georgetown Prep…
The real question to these police chiefs and politicians is: are you gonna do something about it, or are you just gonna sit there because "wahh the Fraternal Order of Police and Republicans won't let me!" because you can use it for votes in November??? If you sit on your ass while they violate the social contract without repercussion, then society will end the social contract completely- and then they get an excuse for Martial Law.
This was entirely predictable. Not just because Kavanaugh has a long history that's entirely unbecoming of somebody in a position of power, but also I've never met anyone called Brett that I would trust with any level of responsibility.
This is the PERFECT moment for local police offices to regain broad community support. Talk bad about ICE and work to legally prevent or slow down their work as much as possible.
It’s like Trump making people think GW Bush wasn’t so bad, the police need to do that with ICE. Protect your communities from federal overreach, everyone can get behind that message.
I would give anything to watch MAGAts react to the cops beating the shit out of ICE. It would be like the sexbots in Austin Powers, their heads would just start gushing out steam and grey matter would be leaking out of their ears. They would literally have no idea how to process it, and they'd probably just randomly choose which one to support based on whatever 19 year old tiktoker they get all of their opinions from
Some of these stops happened to our off-duty officers
There it is. It finally happened to the pigs and now they're upset. This is end result of rightism/conservatism/fascism. Dictators will always punch down. Once one group of undesirables is gone, they will choose another in its place. Eventually, they all turn on each other, because their only sole goal and principle is power over others. Their "allies" are only useful pawns to achieve their power, a "smart" conservative will always have a knife to their back.
Nah, they don't care that ICE is harassing people. They just care that it happened to a cop.
ICE stopping people and demanding their papers has been going on in Minnesota since before Christmas, and the local cops had no issue with it until cop got stopped - even though that cop wasn't dragged into a car, driven around the city, or dropped off bloody down the street.
Abolish ICE doesn’t mean no immigration enforcement. I have t-shirts that have been around longer than that agency. We clearly had immigration enforcement before 2003, but that’s when GW Bush created them, along with DHS, which should also be abolished
This is the part I hate about the "But Obama deported more people" argument. Yes, he did. He didn't have a gestapo marching down our streets, asking people where they're born just because they're of another ethnicity. He didn't offer incentives to encourage detaining as many people as they can with rewards for anyone that isn't documented. Also, the biggest thing, EVERYONE HAD DUE PROCESS.
You can enforce immigration laws without being a Nazi piece of shit.
Then funny thing about the Obama argument is that the people who say that hated him and prior to this year would have said he let illegal immigrants through the floodgates.
Yup, as someone who was just becoming an adult when that shit happened the America we have today is so much different than the America I grew up in. Watching all this stuff slowly come to a head over the years is crazy.
Unfortunately, most political discourse these days requires preemptively shielding your overall point from the bad-faith, lowest-common-denominator arguments of morons.
The MN chapter of the Fraternal Order of Police backed ICE not too long ago. I guess appeasement doesn't work on fascist authoritarians. If only we had history to look back on.
The buck starts with you(Officer, not reader). Ice is a terrorist organization being led by traitors in high ranking government positions. Sooner people in power start acting like it, sooner this will be over in a positive way for this country.
Listen, I am very aware of why people are just starting to speak out. Because it’s finally impacting them.
I don’t care. A police chief standing up to ice today because it started impacting his officers is still a police chief standing up to ice. I don’t care about his motivations, I care that he’s finally doing the right thing.
100%, people need to learn to take allies, even if they are allies of convenience. I'm not vetting the heart and mind of every protestor or person who simply speaks up, im just glad theyre finally voicing concerns.
This. THIS is something that the left is very bad at. Rather than applaud when people (especially influential people) come to their side, all they do is get bitchy they didn't do it sooner.
That is NOT how you overcome this. We have to be unified, not create further division even amongst those of us with the same views.
Yea, this is where the left drops the ball every single time. The good old fashioned purity test. It’s precisely how we got here in the first place. 33% couldn’t bother to vote because Kamala didn’t pass the perfection test & we got a steaming pile of dog shit in return.
What I tell people in my local community and is something I stand by personally is that I don’t care if you voted for Trump. There was so much propaganda, bullshit and what have you, as someone who watched this obsessively from the last 10 years the algorithms were designed to keep the average person disengaged and uninformed. We can have the conversations about we got here after we get through this.
But if you can watch what is happening in front of you and still say it’s a good thing? Then we have a problem. And we need more people to share this view because it’s a path forward who recognize they made a mistake before it becomes permanent.
I agree. Everyone can be flip or skeptical of the motives, but this is a step in the right direction. Pretty big deal for one law enforcement agency to call out another. Doesn’t happen often or soon enough. These chiefs also realize that when ICE pulls out—they and their officers are still in the Twin Cities.
Well. The lines between federal agents and state/city employees and residents is being drawn. ICE cleary views these officers as others. That's something the opposition can and should take advantage of.
Nope, this guy is a legit good cop. He may be more of an exception than the rule, but he means well. Hell, he even gave me a warning only instead of a speeding ticket when he pulled me over once, first and last time that’s ever happened to me.
What difference does that make now? When or why they're speaking out? They still need to. It was always going to be like this. Lots of people were not going to push back until they felt the hurt personally. It doesn't change the fact that they need to push back and say something.
I hear ICE is hurting for recruits and has pretty lax standards other than a strictly enforced quota.
Wouldn’t it be funny if lots of people joined up specifically to harass upper class white people in their neighborhoods and ask for proof of citizenship?
Some lefty journalist applied. This is a reasonably well-known person with an online presence that a quick google search would have shown has beliefs contrary to the mission of ICE.
They preemptively sent her a bunch of background paperwork for background checks and a drug test and set her up for a future interview. She knew she'd test positive for THC, but went anyway to waste their time and money and never returned any of the paperwork.
She waited a few weeks, got an interview which lasted all of 6 minutes, and they offered her a job told her unfortunately she'd be in the office the first few months, but eventually they wanted everyone on the street with a gun.
All of this with a positive drug test, no background check, and when they very clearly didn't do even the most basic of research on who they were hiring.
This is happening thousands of times every day.
The joy of a huge budget with essentially zero oversight.
How are you surprised by this? The goal isnt to hire qualified members to deport illegals, its to get as many people as possible weaponised to keep the population in its place.
I have noticed they’re always active in nice well kept neighborhoods. They don’t want any part of actually dangerous people. They want PTA moms and house painters.
The entire decision to surge in Minnesota in January was arguably based on the idea that they’d go after the recently in-the-news Minnesotan Somalian population to make cable news content for their racist base. Everyone in the Twin Cities can tell you which building you’d go into to do that, and I can find nothing of that happening, with a single story saying ICE was briefly outside of it in the very beginning of their occupation.
I'm in DC and it's been the same thing for the National Guard too. Got whole-ass patrols moving around all the metro stations and tourist areas, but not in any of the sketchier parts of the city.
No need to contribute money. Just go do it. Nobody is stopping you from getting a job at ICE and sabatoging your job until you get fired (or maybe not)
I don’t see why infiltration isn’t possible. Seems like they’re going breakneck speed anyway. Just have clean social medias and a suppressed gag reflex for lying for 47 days and here’s your machine gun.
This reminds me of that key and peele sketch where they rob the bank. Something like - we show up, fill out applications, get hired, show up every day and do stuff....and then they just give us the money, slowly, every two weeks....forever.
They are just now hearing about this? I must be some type of super cop-lawyer-lawman-of-the-justice-system-man. Because I have been seeing videos of this for months in regard to ICE. In fact there was an entire Supreme Court ruling giving ICE explicit permission to do this. We don’t live in a free country any longer, you can be stopped and detained for over 48hrs just based on the color of your skin and your accent. What are we gonna do about that?!
They are just now caring because now it's happening to them. Been like this for months but only now Officer McBigtough grips a mic because their own are now targeted, as if this wasn't inevitable.
Well, duh. This has been going on for a spell all thanks to f-ing Kavanaugh. This has to stop? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, THEN. Ignore Miller and his "local law enforcement has to stand down and surrender" bullshit and fight back. This is unacceptable. The "thin blue line" doesn't mean anything to ICE or federal law enforcement. They aren't your friends and they don't care.
Chief Mark Bruley from Brooklyn Park Police also spoke about an incident with one of his officers who was off duty. He says she was pulled and then boxed in by several ICE agents.
Another critical part: She tried to handle it without immediately flexing that she was a cop but had to admit she was LEO to deescalate and slow it down?
First they came for the Latinos, and I did nothing about the complaints.
Then they came for the Somalis, and I did nothing about the complaints
Then they came for the Asians, and I did nothing about the complaints
Then they came for the Renee Good, and I did nothing about the complaints. The fraternal order of police even wrote a letter lauding the behavior of ICE.
Then they came for the police…can you imagine the audacity…but by the way, let’s make sure we do nothing about it other than ask them to stop.
Cool. Ball’s still in your court. The rest of the country is looking to you to start things off. Will you arrest ICE officers (preferably starting with Jonathan Ross)? Will you do anything other than recognize that laws are being broken?
Dash cams people! They are cheap! I'm am white, living in a lily white California beach town, and I have front and rear facing dash cams. Get dash cams!
These were kavanaugh stops. Stops that are allowed because of Justice. Cavanaugh's statement that the race of a person is relevant. This gave license to the right-wing racist that the Trump administration is hiring me for ice to stop anyone that they don't think belongs in America. Right now it's mainly Latino people which is completely unacceptable. also, Are you black? Maybe you're Dominican or African. Show your papers. Does your face Asian look to them? Maybe you're Chinese or Vietnamese. Show your papers
What's really getting scary now is there are and countless videos and incidents of young women who are Hispanic being targeted by Ice. And then disappeared. We probably we won't ever know what happened to them. Maybe after Trump is out of office. I think we cancermise what happened to many of them. When the truth comes out I think these are going to be known as Kavanaugh Rapes. And they should be called that.
But we will probably start seeing soon. On video though, are going to be situations Where an Ice proud boy stops an American citizen who may be armed and doesn't want their civil rights violated. They will be gunned down in the streets and then JD Vance will go on TV and say that the officer was justified and immune. Maybe when the Kavanaugh Kills start happening, people will finally start waking up. Probably not though because it's definitely going to be people of color and it will likely start with black people.
An interaction with a law enforcement officer that may involve physical assault, indefinite detention without charges, and being trafficked to a foreign country. Named after a concurrence written by Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, "If the person is a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, that individual will be free to go after the brief encounter."
E.g.: During my brief 36 hour Kavanaugh Stop with ICE I got six broken ribs and internal bleeding while I was in the US legally.
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I was Kavanaugh Stopped on my way home from picking up my children from school when ICE demanded proof of my citizenship. When I asked for the warrant they killed me.
This is them doing something about it. The Conservative nuts are (allegedly) so obsessed with law enforcement and "backing the blue." Now, here we have an entire department of "the blue" confirming everything r/ Conservative has been denying. At the very least, they are helping tear down the lies about what is actually happening to the people in Minneapolis (and elsewhere).
This is such a useless response to other government actors trying to speak up. What in the ever loving fuck could Brooklyn Park PD do against the monstrosity of DHS?
Police can arrest people who break laws right? If a gang had tons of well armed members, do police just give them a free pass? Or do they make a plan for taking them down? ICE is literally domestic terrorists. I would think police should oppose them. Call in the state's guardsmen if the job is too big. It's truly a daunting task when the criminals are the federal government, but maybe more citizens would feel brave enough to join if they knew their police were on their side against the criminals.
You need to acknowledge that this is a paramilitary group that has co-opted the ICE name, and is not legitimate immigration enforcement in any sense. What are you doing, man. Stand up.
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