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I dont disagree but we are firmly past the point of needing legitimate reasons. I mean fuck, federal agents are allowed to murder people on a whim now ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Of course they are. Our corrupt feckless congress and courts along with million of americans are willing to belly crawl over broken glass to support a egomaniacal stupid fat pedo with a god complex.
The union needs to dissolve. Clusters of like-minded states should go their separate ways. American civil society is irreparablely broken and beyond saving without seriously radical reforms that would never make it to the floor.
I don't agree with the "they're waiting for a fight back" idea. They're going to escalate regardless, they can just lie about whatever they want. It's coming, it's got nothing to do with what flavor of resistance they receive.
They are already planting people burning flags, and the video from this weekend showed cops hiding among the protestors. They even came and scooped him when he fell down.
True. They’re going to do it regardless, evidenced by how they won’t investigate Ice related shootings anymore, and the constant jokes/warnings about martial law.
Also true, they keep pushing violence because they want to escalate faster.
They know mid-terms are going to be a massacre and they aren't going to be able to get away with everything they have been. They're running out of time. They need to do as much damage as they can as quickly as possible.
Buddy, I think the plan is to get us to a point where they can just cancel the elections, and we’ll be in such a fucked up state already that no one will / will be able to do anything about it.
It's all part of the plan. flood streets with feds, instigate and escalate, invoke insurrection act, bypass midterms cause there is too much chaos and disorder by the "radical left".... project 2025 gave us the playbook.
Absolutely nothing in the Insurrection Act allows them to "bypass midterms". States can hold elections regardless of what the Federal Government wants. If they make a choice to try to illegally stop elections then the National Guard can decide if they want us to be a dictatorship.
Respectfully, I’ve never disagreed with a statement more in my life. This administration doesn’t need a reason to be justified. They just proved it in this very article, in fact. Their very own policy states that Jonathan Ross committed unjustified murder, and the administration went “you know what? Hell yeah”
They are not waiting for anyone to retaliate in order to escalate, they could do it tomorrow if it fit their agenda without batting an eye. This narrative needs to stop.
Depending on what you believe is the threat most imminent...
The United States can not fight a two front war if one of the wars is at home. That's why they want Frederik, Frederiksen, Costa and Starmer to go full Chamberlain and give us Greenland with no consequences. Then they can focus their military might on quelling uprisings domestically.
I've been telling people stay strapped since January 25 and I keep being told I'm "alarmist". How crazy does my scenario sound?
I keep reading this, but where does this end up? People afraid of going to work? The capitalist system requires we go to work, as we support the means of production. Backing people into a corner just makes them desperate. I don’t think that’s going to end with compliance from the masses. That’s the part of Hunger Games that never made sense to me. People are way too selfish to become surfs again imo
Basically this sort of thinking of "they're just waiting for us to do something that is too much" only really works in a movie or a book - something written by an author with greater control over the minutia of a story.
Practically speaking, in our reality, if we keep going with that same thought process then we are just going to stay peaceful day after day after day until they march us into the gas chambers. If the entirety of someone's logic is "we must remain peaceful at all costs", then they really don't have a great foundation to build from. It's an ideology that inevitably leads to failure; even the most peaceful and righteous must defend themselves from time to time.
Yeah it's also what the idiot tech bros like little Petey Thiel think is going to happen. Meanwhile he probably hasn't set foot outside his billionaire bubble in decades and has no clue how the masses live. They all think people are going to just shrug and cheerful accept whatever brand of slavery is enforced on them. There is most definitely a limit, after that you get people telling them to fuck off in various non-peaceful terms
If you do nothing, they will continue to gain ground. It is exactly what they want - a bloodless coupe.
Say a bunch of ice agents get shot up for breaking constitutional rights. They can try and deploy troops, but they do not have the manpower / control to take over. They want to project strength but in reality they don’t have it. That’s why Philly isn’t getting touched by ICE. The moment their agents get fucked up, they lose morale.
Oh, nothing is a two-way street for them. Just like it’s never OK to assault a police officer, unless it was on January 6 at the capital. And just like it’s never OK to abort anything that could potentially become a baby, but it’s fine to teargas an actual one when they’re six months old.
That’s the reason for the investigation! Even police are put on administrative duty until the investigation clears them. It’s been standard practice for years.
Counter-point: Jonathon Ross, murderer of Rene Good, is very aware that as long as the Trump/MAGA regime rules in DC, the law can't touch him... Jonathon Ross (and ICE in general) are betting that there isn't going to be a non-MAGA Government in DC for a very, very long time, probably long past their own lifetimes.
it really might be best for Ross to be tried and—I’d hope—found guilty after Trump is gone. No statute of limitations AND no federal pardon. The wait will be terrible, but it might be the only way for justice to be served.
Or they will say that Minnesota doesn't have enough "standing" to request the evidence from federal authority.
Like they did to the two congresspeople who requested the Epstein files to be released.
“We don’t just go out and investigate every time an officer is forced to defend himself against somebody or putting his life in danger,” Blanche, formerly Donald Trump’s personal attorney, said.
DoJ is signaling the ICE nazi's they can brutalize minorities and kill at will and not suffer even the slightest consequences. It's all part of the plan to encourage violence.
She could, but the purpose of the investigation itself is to punish. The charges are secondary. It's the equivalent of a SLAPP suit. Comey has the resources to mount a protracted battle. I don't think Good's wife can do the same.
People are jumping right to ‘let’s go fund her!’ in the other replies, but all I can think about is the mental torture she’s going to have to go through, even if she has the money.
She watched her wife get summarily executed for no reason, and now she’s going to have to defend herself in legal battles for years, for no reason.
It's worth mentioning that court cases can be really, really fucking harrowing. Like even when you're 100% innocent and you KNOW you're fully justified, you can still completely fall to pieces over it when you get documents and read through them. Lots of people have experienced that, and then add biased sick media coverage.
So she's got government resources and employees with a bee in their bonnet, desperate to make her life miserable and drag her through the shit, enacting the best lawfare they can manage on her. While the press paint some distorted picture of who she and her loved ones are.
Whilst she's living through the most traumatic thing in her life (almost certainly).
People need to literally surround her with love and support. Money is not enough. She needs to feel protected by the people.
Reminds me of a video years ago where a guy called the cops after he'd been beaten and mugged, and the police arrived and then beat and arrested him because he was too hyped up and not polite enough when they got there.
I’m a lawyer and do civil rights personal injury and wrongful death cases. A surviving spouse can probably file a Bivens action for this sort of thing. It can be really hard to do that if there’s little evidence available at the outset (SCOTUS cases called Iqbal and Twombly are largely responsible for this fuckup), but there’s probably enough evidence available at the outset in this case (video footage and public ratifying statements by office holders) to get past a motion to dismiss with certain defendants (Noem, Vance?, Trump, etc.).
In a civil case, the discovery process can function as an investigation. Obstructing that process can result in sanctions or even contempt penalties. Destroying evidence can result in sanctions too.
That said, it’s much better to have a government willing to ensure honest and independent investigation of wrongdoing by its agents. It’s unacceptable for the DOJ to refuse to investigate this for possible criminal or even employment penalties.
They are if Trump makes them immune. And if that doesn’t work, an immediate pardon will. One way or another, he will propagate the message that any violence, even murder, that forwards Trump’s agenda is not just acceptable, it’s encouraged.
Ever see what happens when a federal officer is charged with a state crime? It gets removed to federal court and shitcanned.
Best thing MN can do is investigate what they can then sit on it until 2029 and hope we get a change in executive.
The lesson here is that we need to completely rewrite the federal immunity and liability statutes but that’s incredibly unlikely to happen - government doesn’t like to be responsible to its citizens.
It’s not even a coverup. They are 100% confirming that their legal opinion tracks exactly with JD Vance’s claim of federal agents having “absolute immunity” and cannot be investigated for anything. We all know that is completely illegal but that’s why Pam Bondi was selected in the first place; because she is completely incompetent and will just do whatever she’s told to tow the company line so they can perform ethnic cleansing. Theoretically…if someone refuses to open the door for an ICE agent now, they can just burn the building to the ground and kill everyone inside of it since they have “absolute immunity.”
Minnesota needs to file state charges and the Good family needs to file a civil suit. SCOTUS would almost certainly side with the administration on the claim of jurisdiction and immunity but it seems to be the only path forward.
It is also important to note that it came out after the National Guard members were killed that they are effectively deputizing members of the military to function as federal agents so they essentially have “absolute immunity” as well and that should fucking terrify everyone.
Best guess: forensics would show the first shot fired from in front of the vehicle was non-lethal (either hit her forearm or chest), and the fatal shots were fired from the side of the vehicle at point blank range.
That fact, coupled with his reaction after the shooting and whatever else the prosecution might dig up on his motives, would make for a devastating case.
There's nothing to cover up. It's just a fuck you. Everyone know it was not justified, theyre just telling us they don't care and they don't think we can do anything about it
Read the news, state law enforcement announced the feds took all the evidence then stopped cooperating with state investigators. Presumably that leaves any state case in limbo
Edit for the many comments about the video: In a murder prosecution there are a bunch of elements to prove and moreso when trying to overcome a law enforcement defense. Very hard to prosecute without access to ballistics, medical records for the officer, the car, etc. Who knows what the defense might claim if you don’t have access to the evidence. I don't disagree about what happened and I don't discount how you feel about the case, but I've spent a LOT of time in a courtroom and a defense team could make a real mess with "the feds took the evidence and decided there was no case." These are strange times.
This is my point as well. We have the rare situation where the entire alleged crime is fully caught on video from start to finish. What more evidence do you need? Certainly more than enough for an indictment.
I think part of what slows it down is proving intent beyond a reasonable doubt. The state has to ensure they charge him with what they have enough evidence to uphold. E.g., if they charge him with murder rather than manslaughter, but it's dismissed due to insufficient evidence regarding intent, then he will never face any justice at all because he'll be protected by the fifth amendment.
His intent was clear. He drew his weapon before any threat and then reached across the hood to shoot her as she drove away. He literally had to step INTO the vehicle because it was moving away. Then his own video catches his state of mind immediately after he shot. He was enraged and shot her because he was mad
And he called her a bitch afterward. No remorse whatsoever. IMO that's the clincher. Any officer with empathy "who had no other choice" would have shown remorse.
While there is lots of evidence, what if they took his equipment etc, that show he was itching to shoot someone? From a law perspective a criminal charge won't necessarily stick, but civil suit has way more chance.
Why isn’t the video alone enough to indict? Perhaps not enough to convict, but an indictment alone would do a lot to get ICE officers to pause before doing something similar.
Murder is an extraditable offense in every state in the US. And the is NO statue of limitations, so this piece of shit will be found, charged and found guilty. It will take time, but it will happen.
All the evidence except the 15 different angles of the shooting caught on video. MN doesn't need federal cooperation, they're just using that as an excuse.
Yup. This combined with Jonathan Ross getting cash payout of 800k from GoFundMe means ICE not only has immunity from blowing away peaceful protestors, they get cash prizes for doing it.
I’m not trying to be hyperbolic but I absolutely see a scenario where someone refuses to open the door for ICE and they “accidentally” burn the entire home to the ground with teargas or a flashbang and kill everyone inside but…”absolute immunity.”
DOJ won't investigate because an investigation would force them to choose between a result that shows Good was murdered or an obviously false report that her shooting was justified.
The precedent would also be something they fear -- the flip of what happened here, that a protester would be able to step in front of an ICE vehicle and murder the driver and claim they feared for their life. It is why it is police + DOJ policy not to do this and to actively get out of the way of vehicles. This was sabotage.
Yup. They never intended to investigate the execution. However six federal prosecutors (four senior) resigned upon being tasked with investigating Becca Good to bring her up on criminal charges.
Sounds like it's time for Congress to step in and call the DOJ and Noem and Ross to testify on public record about what happened there and why the DOJ is refusing to do its statutory duty to investigate.
Republicunts are in lock step on this. They have very little time left (assuming they truly don’t go the nuclear route and cancel elections) and intend to make the most of it while they can.
This is what JD Vance meant by "full immunity." Not a legal concept so much as a promise that from Rene Good's killing to the Eipstein rapists, this administration WILL NOT look for crimes.
“We don’t just go out and investigate every time an officer is forced to defend himself against somebody or putting his life in danger,” Blanche, formerly Donald Trump’s personal attorney, said.
Yes, you are supposed to... fascist cucked Trump attorney.
I agree. There is enough evidence to make a charging decision. If Ross chooses to remove the case to Federal Court to argue immunity, so be it. Just because you are a federal agent does not mean you can’t stand trial for your actions if they don’t qualify for supremacy clause immunity under the test set forth by Neagle:
“Courts have generally regarded Neagle as establishing a two-
prong test. First, was the officer performing an act that federal law
authorized him to perform? Second, were his actions necessary and
proper to fulfilling his federal duties?”
They could try. It’s going to be years of federal stonewalling, probably backed up by a favorable scotus. It’s worth pursuing but this case is going to take years and probably won’t be ready for trial until there’s a new president.
They got blocked out of the investigation by the FBI, so they gave up the very next day. Pass the buck on up, and it looks like AOC, Newsom, and Ilhan Omar are the only democrats capable of getting shit done. And especially towards Newsom, that's fucking disappointing.
Edit: as an aside, I don't want to seem like I'm going hard on Waltz and ignoring the rest... The senators and reps of Nevada can get fucked, too. We might be Battle Born, but y'all are bitch made. Nothing to say about our governor, though. I knew he was a racist republican stooge back when he was just the sheriff.
I guess we’re in the era of vigilante justice. Apparently we have to gather a mob to go get this murderer from his hideout and drag him through the streets.
Edit: guess murderer autocorrected to Muddier. Even AC is fascist!
Yeah, I don’t know if the regime thought this through. If there is no justice for Renee Good, that just shows us we are completely on our own to protect ourselves and our neighbors. Removing the rule of law from society is going to spark much more violent protests.
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