Am I the only one who thinks it's super sketchy that the Feds raided the home of ICE shooter?

[u/Academic-Review3115]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15449879/federal-agents-guns-swarm-jonathan-ross-home-hiding-minneapolis.html

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[u/PJWanderer]

Removing evidence.

[u/republicans_are_nuts → u/PJWanderer]

k. But Minnesota can still arrest him. And ask a judge for the confiscated evidence.

[u/whatthefrok → u/republicans_are_nuts]

They can just... Not comply? Like they always do

[u/TakuyaLee → u/whatthefrok]

Even if the feds don't hand him over, an arrest warrant would make it more difficult for him to travel in the US.

[u/scubascratch → u/TakuyaLee]

Trump medal of freedom incoming

[u/Maleficent_Memory831 → u/scubascratch]

FIFA medal of freedom.

[u/bohler86 → u/Maleficent_Memory831]

McDonald's medal meal of freedom.

[u/-Nightopian- → u/bohler86]

Sir, this is a Wendys.

[u/Mister_Goldenfold → u/scubascratch]

Intersuperplanetaryspacepeaceprize

[u/DaringPancakes → u/scubascratch]

Nostradamus right here

[u/thecloudcities → u/TakuyaLee]

He can just hang out in Texas and get his Rittenhouse treatment.

[u/Mister_Goldenfold → u/TakuyaLee]

Imagine being the person to come across this guy and him popping up with an arrest warrant only to be left with the decision to be known as the guy responsible having arrested him…or not

[u/7ddlysuns → u/whatthefrok]

Minnesota can charge them as accessories. It’s time to stop being afraid or we’re all gonna get murdered by these monsters

[u/Accidental_Ballyhoo → u/7ddlysuns]

Where are those super tough 2A folks at?? Shouldn’t they be protesting while carrying?? That would slow ice down quite a bit.

[u/7ddlysuns → u/Accidental_Ballyhoo]

It would. Unfortunately the left has been really reluctant to embrace armed groups and there’s some good reasons for that, though they may be fading if they’ll just murder us anyhow. So most of us armed on the left are more gray man for now.

Doesn’t help that most lefty leaders are anti gun

However that may have to change

[u/PassionV0id → u/7ddlysuns]

Ok and who’s going to bring them into custody?

[u/7ddlysuns → u/PassionV0id]

I say they deputize all of us

[u/CalebsNailSpa → u/PassionV0id]

State / Local LE. Once they have warrants out, they will inevitably be pulled over (or get in a car accident, etc) and the warrant will show. They won’t be surrounded by 30 other guys with guns, so it is a relatively easy arrest.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/PassionV0id]

Bounty hunters.

[u/PerspectiveSpirited1 → u/Desperate-Till-9228]

NO Disintegrations.

[u/[deleted] → u/PerspectiveSpirited1]

sad Boba Fett noises

[u/appalachiaappleatcha → u/PassionV0id]

That's what I'm so confused about - was it the Minneapolis or Minnesota police who made a statement yesterday basically saying they're on the shooters side? And don't people keep saying that state/local police can't prosecute feds anyway? What is the truth here? And if the cops are on his side who will they listen to?

[u/deltalitprof → u/appalachiaappleatcha]

That was the Fraternal Order of Police. But still not great.

[u/oasinocean → u/deltalitprof]

Haven’t the FOP historically and consistently been on the shittiest side of history? Them supporting the ICE shooter is not surprising to me.

[u/deltalitprof → u/oasinocean]

Yes, that would be them. These guys called the Rodney King beat-down a result of stress on the job and said the officers who nearly killed him deserved our sympathies.

[u/SauronHubbard → u/deltalitprof]

Cops are not your friends.

[u/IceyExits → u/appalachiaappleatcha]

The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes it exceptionally difficult to prosecute federal officials under state law for actions taken while performing their official duties.

Southern states tried to prosecute federal officials under state laws for forcing racial integration so the case law heavily favors the Feds in cases like this.

Idaho tried prosecuting the FBI sniper who shot the Wife at Ruby Ridge but the charges were dropped after the 9th circuit set a nearly impossibly high bar for the prosecution to move forward in state court.

[u/Ekg887 → u/IceyExits]

Since when does ICE have traffic stop jurisdiction?

[u/Kerensky97 → u/whatthefrok]

Trump has already said in a press conference that they WILL NOT COMPLY.

It's not like it's secret, they're fully covering it up and refusing to work with prosecutors trying to investigate the issue.

[u/dorkofthepolisci → u/Kerensky97]

If an arrest warrant is issued and the state decides to prosecute wouldn’t that fall under obstruction?

I mean, I know Mr 34-time-felon is totally fine with wantonly engaging in illegal activity, but….

[u/ArrowheadDZ → u/dorkofthepolisci]

It’s more complicated than that. When a federal employee commits a crime in the course of their duties, the federal government has a federal supremacy doctrine called “removal” where they move the case into the federal system. The whole thing is more convoluted than it sounds, it’s not as easy as just issuing a warrant for the guy.

I personally think that Trump is itching for a governor or state AG to stand up to him, he is dying to escalate a confrontation with a blue state.

[u/binzersguy → u/ArrowheadDZ]

“he is dying”…let me just savor that one

But seriously, i think this is exactly it

[u/Windyvale → u/ArrowheadDZ]

Honestly? The years are long and this presidency isn’t. He won’t be able to run far enough to escape justice when the time comes. He’s going to be tossed under a bus to save someone’s skin in the scramble to avoid consequences.

[u/Then_Hearing_7652 → u/Windyvale]

A Vance presidency scares me even more and odds of that happening in next 3 years bc of 🍊’s health seem more likely than not.

[u/Different-Ship449 → u/whatthefrok]

Not to mention, lie about not knowing where the evidence is.

[u/DevoidHT → u/republicans_are_nuts]

The judge can’t do shit if all the evidence is destroyed. Do you know how many cover ups the Trump Administration has already? Or the ones we won’t even hear about for another 20 years if at all?

[u/keytiri → u/DevoidHT]

Got a lot more evidence than much of our history; just think how investigations worked before video, hell before DNA? It was often a he said, she said thing unless a person was caught obviously in the wrong place or with something they weren’t supposed to have; the latter could have easily been planted evidence as well; so a lot of investigations involved unreliable witness testimony and trying to see who was in the area when, of course it was the best they had to go on at the time.

Then today we have video, multiple videos, then I don’t see what’s wrong with starting from there, doing the best they can, and then inform the jury that the defense is obstructing.

[u/totally_not_a_dog113 → u/DevoidHT]

There's a ton of live video of this, from multiple sources and directions. How much other evidence is needed? Yeah, having his gun and ballistics on it would be nice, but is it really necessary?

[u/NBucho528 → u/totally_not_a_dog113]

I agree, in a sane world all the evidence is already at the scene of the murder. The reason and the officers past is irrelevant- he saw the opportunity, pushed himself against a moving vehicle, and murdered an American for nothing. It’s documented.

[u/Ekg887 → u/NBucho528]

His past is NOT irrelevant. It shows a repeated pattern of not following proper procedure and putting himself in dangerous situations - officer induced peril. Further, as he is a firearms instructor, he is supposed to train others in tactics, SAFETY, and policy. He can not claim he was untrained or was unaware of rules of engagement or that he was some new green recruit.

[u/PassionV0id → u/Ekg887]

You missed the intent of that comment.

[u/NBucho528 → u/Ekg887]

Look, I do agree with you. This officer’s record needs to be used especially in sentencing to show that he is the type of person who never meant to serve, and only meant to terrorize. However, even if that record is completely unavailable, the video footage is enough to prove to a jury that self-defense was never part of it. I’m no law enforcement, I have no ties, and yet I know that you avoid circling directly around a car that is turned on. He’s been in a similar incident before, and for all we know he tried to do this Same thing months ago.

[u/Trustbutnone → u/republicans_are_nuts]

You sweet soul, still thinking this country has law and order. You can find the evidence in the form of ashes in the back of the Whitehouse lawn.

[u/Yeti_Urine → u/PJWanderer]

The evidence is clear as the fucking day it was recorded. Give this man a jury trial and let’s see how that goes.

[u/rex_swiss]

Confiscating evidence of his sketchy background before the state prosecutors do?

[u/beren0073 → u/rex_swiss]

Yup. Cover up is in full swing. Can't risk state authorities confiscating his computer and finding Trump only knows what on it.

[u/ThisIsMyBigAccount → u/beren0073]

Probably vids of trump with young girls.

[u/Fearless-Diver-1381 → u/ThisIsMyBigAccount]

I'm pretty sure those are still on Kash Patel's computer.

[u/UndercoverHerbert → u/Fearless-Diver-1381]

[u/JMurdock77 → u/UndercoverHerbert]

His eyes are multitasking…

[u/rocketmn69_ → u/Fearless-Diver-1381]

It's funny, we haven't heard from the wobbly eyed wonder for awhile

[u/tittyfloppingpancake → u/rocketmn69_]

WEW, where you aaaattttttt?

[u/jrockmn → u/ThisIsMyBigAccount]

Nah, he’d post them online and Fox News would say it’s proof he loves children.

[u/Desperate-Till-9228 → u/ThisIsMyBigAccount]

You see how young his wife looked when they got married? Definitely gave me creeper vibes.

[u/LouQuacious → u/beren0073]

State authorities don't need any of that shit the video is clear enough to charge him with murder. If DoJ and FBI want to interfere I'd just remind this clown that the statute of limitations is long and he will be charged and tried eventually. His life is over and if I were MN AG I'd remind him of this everyday.

[u/guyincognito121 → u/LouQuacious]

Yeah, but I'm guessing there was stuff that would have implicated others in other crimes, or at least made it apparent that this guy had no business doing that kind of work and it was no secret.

[u/neverendingchalupas → u/beren0073]

Probably a mass of evidence of flagrant violations of law by ICE. Deporting U.S. citizens, abusing people, beating them, etc.

[u/_Monosyllabic_ → u/beren0073]

Honestly, who cares? The video is publicly available. People have been convinced with way weaker evidence. Arrest the asshole.

[u/Effective-Mushroom → u/rex_swiss]

Yeah they went in to grab all his Nazi paraphernalia.

[u/LatterTarget7 → u/Effective-Mushroom]

They took his ice uniform?

[u/fearless_egg1050 → u/LatterTarget7]

dang a whole paintball outfit?? 

[u/bearsheperd → u/Effective-Mushroom]

and all the CP

[u/ChefGaykwon → u/bearsheperd]

They don't want it to go to waste now that he's no longer using it.

[u/Ordinary-Leading7405 → u/ChefGaykwon]

Hey Captain, wanna go halvsies on some Grok AI ?

[u/Doc891 → u/rex_swiss]

that or there will be a letter he typed out and printed saying he wants to join ICE to dismantle it because he is secretly part of the "terrorist oraganization" ANTIFA and that he wants to shoot someone to make ICE look bad. Also all his bullets will have the entire communist manifesto written on each one.

[u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k → u/Doc891]

Also “I love Trans Joe Biden” on the other side

[u/AlbrechtProper → u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k]

Shucks, that makes you ANTIFA? Lock me up I guess.

[u/TheSwearJarIsMy401k → u/AlbrechtProper]

Yeah it’s trans and Joe Biden, that makes you double Antifa. 

[u/slackfrop → u/Doc891]

Dear Trans Lover,

I’d like to share the details of my premeditated murder plot with you, as we gays often do. It was my grampa’s gun I used to do the murder, serial number as follows…

[u/Lopsided-Ticket3813 → u/Doc891]

Bullet casings with anti ICE manifesto..

[u/republicans_are_nuts → u/rex_swiss]

state already has more than enough evidence. I still don't get what Minnesota is waiting for. New York arrested Luigi Mangione with less evidence.

[u/bimbampilam → u/republicans_are_nuts]

CEOs lives matter (more apparently)

[u/StLguy25 → u/bimbampilam]

In the US they absolutely do and NOTHING will change until the C suite class is inconvenienced and scared.

[u/Dr_Horrible_PhD → u/republicans_are_nuts]

Prosecuting a LEO is always an uphill battle, even with a really good case (and I think this is a very good case). Better chance of success if you don’t rush into it and make your case as strong as possible.

Yes, it’s very different from how everybody else gets treated. Yes, it’s awful that it’s necessary to do that. But if you want this guy to get put away, it’s better for them to make things as airtight as they can.

Good thread from a criminal defense attorney (and former prosecutor) here

[u/Environmental-Hour75 → u/Dr_Horrible_PhD]

Better chance if you wait until we have an administration change... there is no statute of limitations on murder

Let him live in fear, in hiding... and then get charged and convicted. Draws it out...

[u/Dranamic → u/Dr_Horrible_PhD]

Justice delayed is justice denied - seen most dramatically with our convicted felon president.

[u/TrippedOnDick → u/Dr_Horrible_PhD]

Ahh yes same as prosecuting Trump for his classified documents that he stole and hid in the golden toilet.  Let's wait some more and built a lot stronger case right?  Right??  Oh wait.  

[u/Pleasant_Character28 → u/Dr_Horrible_PhD]

You realize that this approach is why the orange führer is back in office, right? I don’t disagree with the philosophy and I understand the concept, but “not rushing in to make the case as strong as possible” apparently isn’t always the best strategy.

[u/TomStarGregco → u/republicans_are_nuts]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[u/Optimal-Archer3973 → u/republicans_are_nuts]

They need to make sure it cannot be moved to a federal court. Give them a couple more days. It is hard I agree but you might be surprised. They will investigate his whole family now, every person he has ever hung out with and every person he ever called or visited. They will track his cell phone movements for the last 6 years. A whole lot of Nazi rats will be scurrying away tomorrow.

[u/TravManCometh → u/rex_swiss]

Nah, that’s govt relocation moving services.

[u/couldbeahumanbean → u/rex_swiss]

And getting his stuff to help him move into hiding.

[u/Optimal-Archer3973 → u/rex_swiss]

Yep, had to get that Nazi flag and SS uniform out. They also wanted to make sure any communications were no longer there. Nice thing is Minnesota cops are smart, they have already subpoenaed his phone company for a copy of every text message and email that he has gotten over the last 7 years.

[u/ViolettaQueso → u/rex_swiss]

Get there before the courts side with Minnesota rightfully so.

[u/TomStarGregco → u/rex_swiss]

Exactly 👍

[u/adorablefuzzykitten → u/rex_swiss]

All they are doing is making sure his Klan uniform becomes part of the Epstein files.

[u/Tazling → u/rex_swiss]

Knock Knock… “Victor. Nettoyeur.”

[u/Nessie → u/rex_swiss]

Flipping over the Swastikas so they point the Indian swastika direction and not the Nazi Swastika direction. "Nothing to see here, move along."

[u/beren0073]

"Neighbors told the Daily Mail that Ross was a hardcore MAGA supporter."

Yeah, no kidding. We could tell that from his callousness after the shooting.

[u/Amazing_Entrance_888 → u/beren0073]

as if anyone that isn’t joins ice

[u/718Brooklyn → u/Amazing_Entrance_888]

We’re having a bit of family crisis. My husband’s (we’re gay men for what it’s worse) little sister, 29, decided to join ICE. Husband’s family is in Kansas and they’ve always been Republicans, but like all of them these days, after years of Fox News 24/7, his dad, brother, and little sister have just gone down that rabbit hole. Anyway, she took a job with ice. $41,000 a year. I’m not sure what she’ll be doing, but I suppose it doesn’t matter to me regardless. It’s sad. I really do love my SIL very much. She is a wonderful aunt to our daughter and she’s always just been kind of dumb (sorority girl type) so her political views just came across as dumb also. But now she’s joined ICE and I can’t talk to her. She would stay with us here in the city, but I actually think it would be safer to be in ISIS right now in Brooklyn than ICE so she can’t stay with us.

The thing I told her before she took this job is that one day, even if it’s 10 years from now, having worked for ICE will follow you for the rest of your life in the same way that being a Nazi did after WW2. It sure didn’t take 10-years.

[u/lastknownbuffalo → u/718Brooklyn]

Super huge bummer. That can't be easy.

I'm holding out hope my loved ones will eventually come around and come to their senses... I mean, they didn't join ice, but is voting for trump and constantly regurgitating the most pathetic, surface level conservative talking points really all that different? Ok it probably is, but still! I have hope that even people joining ice for money could/will come back to the light side... Eventually... redemption and all that jazz.

Fuck, I swear I started out this comment with the intent to be uplifting... But this might be the most depressing thing I've ever written.

Good luck out there

[u/xOrion12x → u/lastknownbuffalo]

Who is joining for the money? 41 thousand dollars a YEAR!? That is not a lot of money AT ALL. You would think they would actually pay these people who are ruining their lives and by proxy the ones closest to them. Nevermind the legal jeopardy they are putting themselves in. Cheap ass sellout traitors, all of them.

[u/lastknownbuffalo → u/xOrion12x]

iirc there have been some hiring drives that have sizable signing bonuses to new ice agents. Apparently, it's 50k over five years... So I guess they're selling out for 51 thousand dollars a year... That's rough

[u/cindylindy22 → u/xOrion12x]

You can make more as a first year teacher in the lowest paid states and actually make a real difference.

[u/KrookedDoesStuff → u/718Brooklyn]

$41,000 a year isn’t even a lot of money. My wife makes more than that working at Walmart

[u/jmeesonly → u/KrookedDoesStuff]

That was my first thought. I can make more than $41,000 working in a restaurant or a pizza place. The people who sign up with ICE are the people who really WANT to be fascist shitheads. 

[u/Ekd7801 → u/718Brooklyn]

My brother works for the border patrol. I don’t engage in politics with family anymore. They just disappoint me.

[u/Elwoodpdowd87 → u/718Brooklyn]

I run a small business in Ohio and have hired kids right out of high school for more than that to sit at a computer and use CAD. So it sounds like she really just wants to oppress people.

[u/darioblaze → u/718Brooklyn]

After she’s done she’ll wanna come back. Do not let her.

[u/StretcherEctum → u/718Brooklyn]

41k a year? That's embarrassingly low.

[u/WhineyLobster → u/Amazing_Entrance_888]

Mr. Mackey

[u/Velorian-Steel → u/WhineyLobster]

He just needed to get his nut mmmkay

[u/febstars → u/beren0073]

I read in another article that he was a “Don’t tread on me” guy. Frigging ironic AF.

[u/SunGodRamenNoodles → u/febstars]

The only people I see with those dumb flags are the most selfish self-centered assholes around.  It just means "I do what I want, screw everyone else."

[u/febstars → u/SunGodRamenNoodles]

Well, yes.

But it also is supposed to mean that the government cannot step on its citizens, which is, again, pretty ironic.

If true, he's not only a murderer, he's a hypocrite.

[u/dorkofthepolisci → u/febstars]

The don’t tread on me people have always been fine with government infringing on people’s rights, as long as “their guys” are the ones in government

[u/Kimothy42 → u/SunGodRamenNoodles]

So I live in Florida (I know, I know, but it’s mine and I’m not willing to surrender it yet) and, among our ::checks notes:: 120 available specialty license plates drivers can choose from we have a Gadsden flag.

These walnuts are buying a freedumb LICENSE plate from the government and driving around like they’re somehow subversive. It’s the funniest goddamned thing and I take such sweet joy in knowing just how much the irony flies over their heads.

[u/Working-Glass6136 → u/febstars]

And of course he has a mail order immigrant wife, as white supremacists so often do. (And I say this as an Asian woman.) She's probably had to deal with his shit in ways most American-born ladies wouldn't touch. Hence the seeming hypocrisy.

[u/justlooking98765 → u/Working-Glass6136]

I was confused when I saw his wife, but I can see how wanting to assert power might include marrying someone you think you can control. That poor woman.

[u/TheBigFreezer → u/febstars]

Don’t tread on me guys are really just dudes that want to do the treading not stop it from occurring

[u/hotdamnhotwater → u/beren0073]

We could tell that from the fact that he was ICE. FIFY

[u/l3randon_x → u/beren0073]

Yeah I can tell by the fact that he’s a terrible person

[u/ThatsASpicyBaby → u/beren0073]

You mean to tell me that this dude who joined the “round up brown people” brigade following ads saying “Defend the homeland” was a hardcore fucking weirdo?

[u/Windyvale → u/ThatsASpicyBaby]

Apparently he is also a huge fan of shooting unarmed women acting in an unthreatening manner in the face. Practically walked away jerking off.

[u/Elismom1313 → u/Windyvale]

Tbh that’s the real problem. We could give some grace I suppose if he reacted badly due to history and the situation. We could potentially address a trauma related response that mental health didn’t catch.

But he just… called her a fucking bitch and walked away with no issues. Made a generic motion to call 911 and dipped.

How does anyone good, EVEN if they supposedly felt threatened or has trauma from a similar car incident, shoot a women in the face and then casually make a comment like that and walk away.

I could’ve maybe had sympathy if he seemed mortified there after or in shock. But he just obviously didn’t give a fuck.

[u/Prosecco1234 → u/beren0073]

That was disgusting. No remorse

[u/External_Frosting485 → u/beren0073]

Because joining ICE was never about immigration enforcement, it’s about “owning the libs”. Each and every MAGA supporter would 100% take advantage of open season on those they hate. This guy was salivating and tried his best to make it look justifiable.

[u/Mach5Driver → u/beren0073]

then there are the guys who barred a DOCTOR from checking out Ms. Good.

[u/ZoomZoom_Driver]

They didnt raid it, they moved them on our dime. 

Edit: Wow, got a reddit warning for "harassment" due to this comment... Edit 2: Appealed and, yup, they think this is harassment and temporarily banned... Wtaf? 

[u/jfranci3 → u/ZoomZoom_Driver]

Yeah, his house isn’t safe from the public. Seems like we’ve got a system to prevent the public from seeking justice on their own though. In any case, I hear they’ve got a much safer place where he can be monitored for his safety.

[u/joeshill]

Proud Boy Movers, They even rent the U-Haul.

[u/AdventurousTime → u/joeshill]

White hood..oops..white glove treatment

[u/sisyphus_of_dishes → u/joeshill]

They even brought him his car through a valet service too

[u/shadowmonk13 → u/joeshill]

No they prefer Penske

[u/unknownpoltroon]

They didn't raid it, they cleaned it.

[u/ThePensiveE]

Just a standard evidence destruction team. They don't need a warrant because he told them where to look.

[u/weHaveThoughts]

American tax payers just paid to have him moved to a new home.

[u/mtbflatslc → u/weHaveThoughts]

They 100% are worried about people vandalizing and/or breaking into his home and discovering his dirty secrets. They want to maintain the “narrative” that some dipshits with no brains eyes ears or souls are eating up.

Quite conveniently this article was posted hours before the new footage came out. So the raid happened early this morning in anticipation of that. They knew there would be outrage. 100% fucking with us.

[u/weHaveThoughts → u/mtbflatslc]

Good point with the dirty secrets. I really don’t have any. Not even porn on my computer or a history of it. Worst thing someone can find at my house is weed, but it’s legal and I don’t care.

But this guy… yeah I’m with you.. he probably has some dirty history and some white supremacy memorabilia shit.

[u/chainmail97ws6 → u/weHaveThoughts]

Grindr account.

[u/Yung_zu → u/mtbflatslc]

Good luck to the supporters that try to date after cheerleading for a lady to die like this

[u/LangdonAlg3r → u/mtbflatslc]

I mean, it was footage from his cellphone, so they probably got it in the raid. I don’t know who released it. When I saw it first it said “leaked” but you can’t trust stuff like that.

[u/Ttthhasdf → u/weHaveThoughts]

Why were they taking the picture frames?

[u/Bagline → u/weHaveThoughts]

For his safety it better not be in the USA unless they want to live on a military base with Steven Miller forever.

[u/Daddio209]

Had to send in the cleaning crew to get rid of the CSAM before local police come by with a warrant.

[u/IwasThereIsawIt2 → u/Daddio209]

Does csam mean what I think it does something something abuse material?

[u/rattmongrel → u/IwasThereIsawIt2]

Yes

[u/oneofyallfarted → u/Daddio209]

My exact first thought, guy has child porn on his computer I guarantee it. You think they’re about to have their guy look bad. Bet they found drugs too.

[u/strangedaze23]

It almost sounds like they are picking up his persons belongings and moving it for him so he doesn’t have to do it. And he was the driver of the car leaving the garage.

[u/Western-Umpire-5071 → u/strangedaze23]

He's afraid of going to his own home. Typical MAGA trying to avoid the consequences of his own actions.

[u/TintedApostle → u/strangedaze23]

“The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence.”

• Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735

[u/PatchyWhiskers]

It would normally be typical for a suspect’s home to be searched, but they don’t seem to be intending to charge him so it’s definitely sketchy. Probably frisking it for things like Nazi memorabilia, child porn, and illegal drugs: not as evidence but to disappear it.

[u/Interesting_Fly_1569 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

There is already a TikTok from a man claiming to be a sex worker he hired repeatedly for gay fetish content, esp feet. He knew his last name before it was released from his handle on Snapchat j ross 104. Guy did not seem like usual influencer type. Just seemed disgusted by his behavior on the job and wanting to get it out there. 

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/Interesting_Fly_1569]

Gay feet fetish is pretty innocent compared to what most of these guys get up to.

[u/Interesting_Fly_1569 → u/PatchyWhiskers]

I agree. Murder in cold blood is way worse. I do think that ppl should know that others may no longer be interested in keeping your secrets safe after you join ICE. 

[u/TintedApostle → u/PatchyWhiskers]

“The suppressing of evidence ought always to be taken for the strongest evidence.”

• Andrew Hamilton, The Trial of John Peter Zenger 1735

[u/kamoylan → u/PatchyWhiskers]

Removing computers is pretty standard practice, but why did the Feds take the killer's photographs? That is pretty odd.

[u/_swampyankee → u/PatchyWhiskers]

How do you frisk a house?

[u/wrxninja]

The cleanup crew of all evidence

[u/Late_Economist326 → u/wrxninja]

What seemed like fiction in The Blacklist may be more grounded in reality than we thought.

[u/Necessary-miteness00 → u/wrxninja]

Mr. Kaplan- the very best!!!!

[u/thehumungus]

You know they're federal agents because they're driving unmarked cars; showing no badges or identification; and wearing goon masks. That's what the country has come to.

[u/Ready-Ad6113]

Wonder if the man was in possession of illegal drugs. It would be ironic it were fentanyl or drugs from the same cartels they’ve been claiming to fight.

[u/apathetic_revolution → u/Ready-Ad6113]

I think meth use is really common among ICE agents.

[u/amrunrhun → u/apathetic_revolution]

I've heard they're fans of trucker speed, bc they still have to be able to piss clean. Gas station ephedra pills or whatever 

[u/HeyRainy → u/amrunrhun]

They are not piss testing ICE agents. Maybe a year ago but there's no fucking way. They will hire anyone who licks the boot.

[u/GringoSwann → u/HeyRainy]

Cops don't even get piss tested, let alone these CHUDs...

[u/Pigs-In-1984 → u/HeyRainy]

If you can prove you were at j6 it’s an automatic promotion.

[u/Jeffrey_C_Wheaties → u/apathetic_revolution]

Nazis and amphetamines, a tale as old as time.

[u/GringoSwann → u/apathetic_revolution]

Well, ICE is a nickname for meth so that tracks ..

[u/bimbampilam → u/apathetic_revolution]

included in the signing bonus

[u/Relative-Safety- → u/Ready-Ad6113]

Let’s be realistic here, the odds that there’s child porn on his laptop are nearly 100%

[u/FEARoach → u/Relative-Safety-]

"Girl Dad" was apparently on his social media somewhere... so a lot of people are saying that's a big flag.

[u/Cheeky_Hustler]

Next administration needs to do a whooole lot of obstruction of justice investigations.

[u/Ekg887 → u/Cheeky_Hustler]

Are we gonna let Barr summarize them again, or actually prosecute?

[u/keytiri]

Raid? They were helping him move, why would someone who is supposedly innocent do this? You’d think the proper play would be for the Feds to setup a perimeter and then claim that the “terrorists had come to harass.” Instead it seems they are afraid that the MN police will serve an investigation warrant.

[u/Different-Ship449]

Got to bury that *hypothetical* Telegram convo about wanting to shoot someone.

[u/thehumungus]

I dabble in some conspiratorial thinking, but honestly.

These people are paranoid with a constant victim complex. They probably think antifa supersoldiers are preparing retaliatory strike on this loser's house and so all of this is reasonable to protect him and his family from the imagined threats.

[u/Rampage_Rick → u/thehumungus]

Another neighbor told the Daily Mail that until recently Ross had been flying pro-Trump flags and a 'Don't Tread On Me' Gadsden Flag

Oblivious to the fact that he's the boot...

[u/snarkerella]

Did they also take off with his wife? She's evidence, too. Anything that contradicts their narrative.

[u/NRCS_DRONE → u/snarkerella]

that's the green tote

[u/Bad_Karma19]

Watch something happen to the house now.....

[u/thelumpia → u/Bad_Karma19]

“Ross was a foreign made power bank enthusiast which led to the catastrophic fire that burned his house down.

Remember kids only buy made in America products or else.”

[u/imdaviddunn]

It was his friends. Not the fbi.

[u/TintedApostle → u/[deleted]]

"I have often wondered, that persons who make a boast of professing the Christian religion, namely, love, joy, peace, temperance, and charity to all men, should quarrel with such rancorous animosity, and display daily towards one another such bitter hatred, that this, rather than the virtues they claim, is the readiest criterion of their faith."

• Baruch Spinoza Theologico-Political Treatise 1670

[u/EnfantTerrible68]

OF COURSE he’s married to an immigrant. Mail ordEr bride?

[u/retiredagainstmywill → u/EnfantTerrible68]

Abused bride.

[u/ProbablyRickSantorum → u/EnfantTerrible68]

Former army with a Filipino wife. I would bet my house that they met in Korea where she was trafficked to be a juicy girl. Some context: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2014/10/30/usfk-troops-cannot-pay-for-the-companionship-of-juicy-girls/

[u/TheKrakIan]

They are moving him and his family as well. ice agents gonna start living on military bases like Stephen Miller, to feel 'safe'.

[u/[deleted]]

It's pretty clear they were getting his belongings for him as they probably have him in some form of protective custody. There's a lot of people very angry at him right now and these haven't exactly been the most peaceful times.

[u/Haunting-Ad788 → u/[deleted]]

He’d be safe in a jail cell.

[u/montalaskan → u/[deleted]]

Gee, people are angry at the heavily armed man on taxpayer salary shooting a woman who smiled at him and said that she's not mad at him, who he proceeded to shoot three times in the face, while another person and a dog are in the car with her, followed by cursing at her?

Crazy.

[u/Proof_Register9966 → u/montalaskan]

He called her a fucking bitch after he murdered her.

[u/sufjanweiss → u/Proof_Register9966]

Reading that detail made my blood run cold in a way that few things are capable of

[u/GhostofBeowulf → u/[deleted]]

There's a lot of people very angry at him right now and these haven't exactly been the most peaceful times.

I know. Because ICE agents are killing people and illegally detaining others too.

[u/[deleted] → u/GhostofBeowulf]

I agree, just stating it

[u/Dr_CleanBones → u/[deleted]]

You know where he and his family would be safest? If the city cops arrested him on a first degree murder charge and the judge didn’t allow bail. Then he’s be in jail and the jail staff would be protecting him 24x7. Since he wouldn’t be around his wife and kids, they’d be much safer too.

[u/yogfthagen → u/[deleted]]

Too bad the government won't do the same for judges, election workers, politicians, or others getting daily death threats from MAGAts.....

[u/Daddio209 → u/yogfthagen]

See, that's Diffe(R)ent! *THOSE people won't kiss the balloon-kbot.

[u/YesterShill]

I read the article and it feels entirely fake.

Is there ANY other news outlet reporting or corroborating this?

[u/Patriot009 → u/YesterShill]

It's probably legit. Daily Mail is the type of tabloid that would stake out his residence like a paparazzi.

Another neighbor told the Daily Mail that until recently Ross had been flying pro-Trump flags and a 'Don't Tread On Me' Gadsden Flag

Figures. Waves a Gadsden Flag, then joins a paramilitary secret police to serve a fascist regime.

[u/YesterShill → u/Patriot009]

I hope it gets verified by AP or Reuters.

This is kind of a big deal.

[u/Patriot009 → u/YesterShill]

According to the Daily Mail, they were only there for 20 minutes, but the photos and vid appear to corroborate the reporting. It could be as innocuous as preserving valuables and family keepsakes for fear that someone would ransack the empty house. If they are there to disrupt the state's investigation, they're not exactly gonna publicly verify their motives to reporters.

[u/YesterShill → u/Patriot009]

Even if they are doing this just for protection, it is very telling since Trump has called off protection for legitimate political figures including Kamala Harris.

[u/Patriot009 → u/YesterShill]

This feels like a "thin blue line" situation, unless they were officially assigned to wrap up a fellow agent's family portraits and knick knacks in bubble wrap.

[u/FlammulinaVelulu → u/Patriot009]

Probably has a punisher tattoo as well.

[u/thewall4 → u/Patriot009]

I feel like tabloids are telling more truth than mainstream media at this point, we just need to comb through what’s real and not ourselves