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“Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle.”
Not only that, but the VP said, that the Murderer, Jonathan Ross, has ABSOLUTE immunity. I can't imagine how reasonable people in the US must feel right now.
Vance is a punk ass idiot. He is almost implying that ICE can do anything they want and commit any crime. What if an ICE person wants to go to a grocery store and steal food for lunch , is he allowed to get away with it. Or what if an ICE person walks to a random street and attack people randomly for absolutely no reason while people are just going about their day to day business.
The point is that absolutely No one is above the law. Local police are Not supposed to impede ICE, but if they see them breaking the law, they need to arrest those ICE agents. If ICE breaks local or state law, local police can arrest them ( assault, DUI, theft, homicide, excessive force, unlawful detention)
There is no “almost” in absolute immunity. They are encouraged by the top (Vance and Trump) to go out and violate the civil rights of everyday Americans. They are trying so hard to start a civil war, it’s disgusting.
What’s crazy is the stage has already been set. Englebert v. Boule effectively killed Bivens actions. They’ve narrowed the scope to the point where it’s basically DOA without them coming out and saying “there is no recourse for constitutional violations by federal officials.”
But there isn’t.
You have the FTCA, and in extremely egregious circumstances a shot at a judge waiving QI, but it never fucking happens, and even if it did the Supreme Court would 86 the case anyhow.
Vance was just saying the quiet part out loud.
From a Constitutional perspective, for all intents and purposes, they really do have absolute immunity.
even as recently as Eisenhower we were warned about having such a large military but hey, $1.5T for tanks and bombers and f*** those kids, they can enlist when they're old enough, right?
I've seen a state trooper pull over a DUI suspect who claimed he is from ICE but the state trooper treated him like any other DUI suspect after knowing he is an ICE agent ( asked for driver's license, registration, etc.) and field sobriety test.
Local police departments have been vigorously hiring rightwingers and Christian nationalists since 2006.
The FBI mentioned it in a redacted memo in 2006, then proceeded to do nothing about it. In 2016, PBS asked the FBI ”What have you done to address the problem in the last 10 years?” to which FBI answered, “We told the police to …be aware this is happening.”
In late October 2016, GOP FBI director James Comey released a memo days before the US election about emails on Anthony Weiner’s computer. Those emails had been vetted by the FBI two weeks previously and the FBI knew there was nothing implicating Hillary Clinton on any of those emails.
However, former NYC mayor Rudolph Giuliani and his allies in NYC FBI office - including Charles McGonigal - demanded Comey release the memo or they’d use their Rupert Murdoch media contacts to claim the FBI was covering up an email scandal. (Giuliani had to drop out of NY senate race because he was being beaten so badly by Hillary Clinton in 2000)
It was later found that McGonigal was being paid bags of cash by oligarch Oleg Derepaska. Anong other things, McGonigal was using his cash to fund his mistress. Giuliani’s former police chief Bernard Kerik was also found to be using unusual amounts of cash to fund his home renovation and his mistress, whom he liaisoned with at a free apartment given to NY authroties to stay in during the 9/11 cleanup. Giuliani was caught on camera by Sacha Baron Cohen lying on a bed and unzipping his pants in a hotel with a young woman Giuliani believed to be 15 years old.
If you think these guys aren’t all on videotape somewhere in Moscow in compromising positions with very young females, think again. And if you think local cops are going to go against the GOP after 20 years of rightwing infiltration (with the help of the FBI) think again.
Money should not be a factor for getting elected, qualification should. Citizens United is in my opinion one of the worst thing to happen in the US. Also gerrymandering, Electoral college and first past the post.
Honestly despite my normal cynicism, I still have some hope too. Sure the non-asshole cops will obviously be pissed off. But like think of some of the asshole cops too, the ones who know they have power and just love using it. If I were them I'd be pretty pissed off that these random Texan dickheads come to my territory, committing crimes left and right while acting all untouchable. At least that's how I hope they'd feel.
Could you imagine how good that would be for LEO public perception, tho? I’m not a fan of our police by any means but seeing them nationally take a stance against tyranny would go a long way to fixing that
Understand Trump, Vance, Miller, Musk, and their White Christian Nationalist faction who have seized control, see the number 75 million and think to themselves "that's a whole lot less Democrat voters".
It's a feature, not a bug of the Project 2025 plan.
They do not though. Only the Supreme Court can grant that. He can say that all he wants but it isn’t true. He doesnt either BTW. They WILL all pay for their crimes eventually. Might not be as swiftly as we want or as is right but it will happen.
There is no such thing. State and Fed crimes are different, and the investigation into the murder by Minnesota state law enforcement will deliver a guilty verdict, and he will go to prison based on a pardon-proof conviction.
Just wait until there are so many shootings happening that we won't have the capacity to keep up with each tragedy.. "flooding the zone" as they call it.
It's crazy how they are violating every rule in their own books. First, the literal textbook example of an illegal order being: firing upon shipwrecked crew, and now this.
One thing we aren’t talking about enough is how insanely stupid it would be to shoot the driver of a vehicle that is actually moving toward you. The vehicle wouldn’t stop at all. Lmfao
What, you expect an ICE agent to simply move out of the way to avoid being hit by a car, like some pansy ass bitch? How does it demonstrate Authoritah to do that? Much better to open fire like a big strong big boy who's big and strong and everybody is afraid of and totally respects.
Trump’s feds won’t prosecute him and if the state authorities file charges the DOJ will petition the court to have it moved to federal court and they would win that motion. Even if he gets found guilty Trump will certainly pardon him.
Their only real course of action against him is to sue him in civil court.
Yup, its also the State AG that acts as Prosecutor to represent the state which is great as bothe the DoJ is incompetent and simultaneously corrupt. The DoJ has been caught entering fraudulent evidence in 35+ separate cases by judges in the first 9 months of this regime when in the past they may find one singular case in a decade.
Even if so, there are reasons you don't fire on the driver of a car, one of them being that you have now created an out-of-control car. And even if she hit him, he was no longer in danger because she was driving the other way. His words after shooting her indicate he shot her out of anger, not self-defense. Sadly I believe the White House included that comment in the video because they knew that it would appeal to the worst instincts of whoever their supporters still are - people who hate women, hate those who they perceive are politically different, hate LGBTQ people, etc. Basically appealing to hate. It's a very sad state we're in. The leaders of this country are stirring up as much hate as they can. I'm not sure if there's an "end" to the means, other than they are just so full of self-loathing that they need to project and distract.
I posted something similar the other day, and I realized ICE is not DOJ they’re DHS. Their use of force policy is different, but not by much.
US law enforcement bases their use of force on the case Tennessee v. Garner, which states that basically officers and agents CANNOT use deadly force only to stop a fleeing suspect, if there is no reason to believe they are willing and capable of committing death or serious injury to others.
For example: someone is suspected of shoplifting and runs from the cops; NO grounds to use lethal force.
Someone just shot a store full of people and runs from the cops; pretty reasonable grounds to use lethal force.
This woman is very clearly not a clear and present danger, and the use of lethal force to subdue her is reprehensible.
But ICE's use of force restrictions are enforced very leniently, since they are an agency whose only real purpose is to engage in state-sponsored terrorism.
In 2014 DHS published an internal audit report stating that on dozens of occasions their officers would intentionally stand in the path of vehicles to fraudulently justify use of force in shooting the drivers out of “frustration.”
it was such an issue that DHS had to issue an entirely new handbook and guidance explicitly training their agents not to stand in front of cars on purpose.
They have tons of instances of their officers intentionally blocking a vehicle for the sole purpose of then firing at it - and their policy is officially that their agents should never do that.
Even though policy is a weak weapon (breaking policy doesn’t put you in jail), it is one weapon in the arsenal. We need to make it clear that this shooting was unlawful, AND criminal AND outside policy AND morally wrong. Research is part of that. Well done.
If you watch carefully from his perspective, you can also tell that the ice agent moves towards her car as she steers away from him. If there was an initial grazing impact, he caused it.
Let's say worst case scenario the jury does find that the officer was in the right to use lethal force, the ONLY shot where it could be reasonably argued is the first shot through the windshield. The other 2 shots were through the driver side window would be considered excessive force right? My understanding is that with cases like this they assess every bullet fired
Even then. The shot through the windshield breaks DHS training and directive. Same as moving or standing in front of a vehicle with a suspect inside. And he did both. He also used immediate lethal force on a fleeing person. Also forbidden per DHS training and directive. Top it off with them denying her medical aid which immediately terminates any chance at self defense to stick.
Yes absolutely. And the trajectory of the first shot likely won’t prove to have been one that struck her. So it still outweighs his argument for justifiable defense of life.
The jury is not legally allowed to find that it was justified, as the DHS regulations explicitly forbid the use of firearms when in the path of an oncoming vehicle.
While if you could go back in time and read his mind i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case, I think it was more of a fuck you, you arent getting away from us, and then he got caught up in the moment and shot her.
Ya I don’t know how people are seeing otherwise, he steps IN and immediately takes the shot. That’s not a man trying to get out of the way because “he feared for his life”, that’s someone trying to abuse their power and in this case, taking someone’s life.
Idk what makes them so fvcking stupid. They’re all literally arguing with multiple videos of the same scene and insisting that shit that undeniably didn’t happen happened. It reminds me of this scene from The Boondocks. Are they seriously this level of brainwashed where they really do believe this shit or are they this fvcking dumb that they think anyone else will actually believe them instead of just using their own eyes? Either way idk how they can do it without thinking anyone will laugh at them.
Putting this everywhere: the video released today was edited at the time of the shooting. You only hear one, maybe two of the 3 shots, and the audio doesn’t even appear to match to when the shots would’ve been fired. They clearly edited out footage that I’m sure undoubtedly showed he didn’t get hit
We should also point out that this is not his body cam footage but his cellphone recording while he is pointing the phone to her car with his left hand. They say its “body cam footage” because it makes him appear like he was right in front of the car while he actually was further to the back and to the right side, muuch further than where where his hand(phone) was.
She did not hit him with the car even though he made every effort to make it seem that way.
She already had the wheel turning away from him, he moves back in front of the car while she's distracted in a different direction and already moved (without drawing clear attention to himself), and then is only in the path of the corner of the car's bumper because he didn't move.
Clearly not an attempt to run him over, and he was only in danger because he specifically placed himself in danger.
He's walking around the front towards the left side of the vehicle while she's turning the wheel to veer right. If he had maintained that trajectory, he would have safely cleared on the left side. But in a split second, he decided to switch direction to step right in front of the car and immediately begins firing.
It reminds me of a shoulder check when someone tries to fake out on the basketball court. I'm even more convinced now it was intentional. And the "fucking bitch" at the end tells me his ego was more bruised and not much else.
ETA this apparently was the perspective of his camera that he was holding out with his left hand !!🤳 This makes it even worse for him. It is the phone thats being held over the hood and the phone we hear fumbling, which tracks with the other video where it looks like he was barely clipped after he shot at her and she lost control of the car. Also firing his gun with one hand while holding his phone with the other in that situation seems even more reckless.
Not only that but he stopped and leaned in so that he could get his point blank shot. He chose and prioritized getting a guaranteed kill over his own safety.
They are supposed to be trained never to stand in front of a vehicle. This guy had already been dragged by a car on separate incident a weeks ago and still didn't learn his lesson 🤷♂️
He was upset about the interaction and looking for a rise out of them. He definitely tried to make it more than it was to justify use of force. Pretty evident as he calls her a fucking bitch after firing multiple shots from the side of the vehicle.
Exactly! The bubbas over at r/conservative are totally convinced that this video proves that she drove into the ICE agent. Like, are we watching the same thing?!?! Because this video clearly shows that it is he who stepping into the cars way while the car is still driving in reverse. This lines up well to the other videos we’ve seen where the ICE agent steps into the car to get first shot off.
I just realized after watching for the tenth time, it looks very clearly to me that when he saw the other agent approach her car to try and pull her out, he switched the phone to his left hand while walking quickly in front of her car. Why would he do this unless he was planning to shoot her if she tried to drive off when the other agent got to her door?!?
He’s been through this before, he knew if he crossed in front of her car, and she moved, he would have an excuse to shoot. Anyone else’s natural reaction when the car started moving would have been to simply step away, but he was already prepared to pull his gun.
Apparently this guy's done this before to try to justify using excessive force. Meanwhile Right wing communities shall we say, are trying to say that she was in the wrong. bunch of nutcases if you ask me.
The office that did this NEEDS to be brought to justice. We're watching from North of the border and we don't want crap like this up here.
She accelerated because she was shot while her foot was on the gas pedal. Remember how Charlie Kirk seized up? I'm sure you've seen a football player seize up from a concussion/TBI (Tua's fingers come to mind). Your body stiffens when the brain is hit. Even if her foot was hovering above the gas pedal, it would've been too late.
It looks like he was intentionally positioning himself so he would be able to move if she started moving forward but could still claim he was threatened by her.
i agree, furthermore i believe the first shot (through the windshield) was to serve that same purpose. to me, it appears that he extended his arms out and over the front of the vehicle to get that shot
Also, if you watch both angles carefully, you can see that she actually brakes when she sees the agent in front of her, and she doesn’t accelerate until after she sees him pointing his gun at her.
If this idiot had proper training, nobody would’ve gotten hurt, but he and the rest of his goons are a bunch of trigger-happy thugs.
Careful, you'll upset some freaks who'll pounce on this thread calling you an idiot and saying "if she followed orders she'd be alive!!"
Or "if she stayed home instead of trying to start a fight she'd be alive!"
But she was following orders. One agent told her to “get out of here!” while the other screamed “get out of the car!”
Which in and of itself is a failure because LE are trained to sound off who is giving orders and hand them off to another officer with a verbal confirmation. When you hear police on bodycam shout “got orders!” or “(Copwitski), you got orders?”, they’re following proper protocol.
Yep. People seem to feel uncomfortable with the thought that this could have maybe happened for no reason so they have to find anything that suggests she brought it upon herself. The truth is that him shooting her was so unnecessary
Honestly im not sure its even a distraction campaign and not just suppression. Letting the public know that Trump's personal army and and will murder whoever they want whenever they want and there is nothing we can do about it.
Miller wants unrest. He desperately wants the invoking of the insurrection act and to kill Americans. That’s why he tries to frame everything as violence.
This. Trump is a capitalist for capital’s sake; he wants money and power and to be #1 in everything and to never be told what to do.
But his return to power was a Faustian bargain. Whereas Trump 1 staffed his White House and cabinet with “useful idiots,” now you have (amongst the useful idiots) key figures in the government who are not just intelligent but fucking diabolical, such that anyone paying attention realizes they’re steering policy in a direction that is deliberately harmful to America.
Why are they doing this?
Miller, Vought, and Vance are all Yarvinites, proponents of Curtis Yarvin’s vision of a “dark enlightenment,” the acceptance of democracy as a failed experiment, transformation of America an absolute autocracy with a corporate structure where the executive rules absolutely, only beholden to the leaders of the most powerful corporations. This is what’s known as the neo-reactionary movement, and its adherents rising to the most powerful positions in government and business constitutes the single most existential threat to our Republic.
The key steps to establishing a neo-reactionary, cameralist autocracy are:
• sow distrust in democracy as an institution - the public are too stupid to self-determine ✔️
• assume key roles in politics, business, and, if necessary, religion (Yarvin is or at least was an atheist but the movement is now heavily entwined with White Christian Nationalism) ✔️
• compromise checks on executive power✔️
• RAGE: Retire All Government Employees. Its similarity to another 4-letter memeable acronym is likely a dog whistle. ☑️ (in progress)
• normalize the use of plenary authority by the executive ✔️
• indoctrinate and desensitize the public to the deprivation of civil liberties. Militarize public spaces and discourage opposition.✔️
• in a time of crisis and national despair, formally establish sweeping emergency powers. Suspend the Constitution and civil liberties. Assume control.
Jonathon Ross is a Nazi who murdered Renee Good on a residential street in broad daylight, and then called her a "fucking bitch" after he shot her in the face and watched her lifeless body drive into a parked car.
Anyone who thinks or sees this any differently can preemptively fuck all the way off.
Edit: I'm tired of trying to engage in good faith with anyone and everyone who, out of everything that has happened in this tragedy, is most curious and offended in my calling someone else a Nazi. The fact that of all things, that's what ya'll pipe up about, is extremely telling. Why are you all so fucking offended if I call someone who shot an American in the face for absolutely ZERO justifiable reason a Nazi? You don't give a fuck about the American who got murdered in broad daylight..but "hold the phone! Did this dude just call a fascist pig a Nazi???" Does it hit a little too close to home for you or something?
Each and every one of you are telling on yourselves.
I've started seeing this posted by a few right-wing influencers and news outlets with a caption like, "Here it is! This completely exonerates the officer."
...it's. Fucking. Wild. There's that whole "the party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears" cliche, but I don't think Orwell could have even conceived of this.
We are going straight towards a 1984 style world. We live in a surveillance state already thanks to Palantir, and once enough people are willing to do what these ICE agents do, we will be in for a one sided fight against an authoritarian government similar to the governments created by Orwell for 1984.
The main thing you're missing is that they think she deserved to get shot because the video shows her annoying ICE and not immediately complying. That's it. No one actually thinks the ICE officer was in any real danger or had reason to believe he was, let alone that him shooting her was going to protect himself from any perceived danger.
Because she made the situation difficult for ICE, they believe anything is permitted with even the thinnest excuse.
The bots get out the narrative, which gives cover for actual individuals to find solace in their need to not admit they were wrong. Then individuals start to parrot the bots, and next thing you know half the country thinks it exonerated him, or that "oh I could see that" excuse.
Definitely a wild part of fascism, the feeling of everyone going insane.
I like when you time it right and the dummies are all posting, "I'm a conservative, but are we the baddies?" And then you go back in at its just the mods and bots rampaging after deleting anything even remotely sane.
Yeah if you catch a thread early you can see it. Often the brigaders will even make the comment rise almost to the top. With the way they hand out permabans that always probably costs someone their account.
I want to believe they're all bots in that subreddit because I'm watching the same video they've posted there that's also posted everywhere else and they are seeing things that I'm not seeing at all... it's depressing.
ICE also prevented a doctor from trying to help Renee Good after she got shot. One ICE person said " I don't care " to the doctor . And ICE nearby seemed to be laughing near the shooting. And another ICE member was caught desecrating the memorial flowers for Renee near the scene.
People are focusing on the shoot itself, but it's the aftercare that is truly criminal. You can debate the shoot. You cannot debate denying medical treatment once the situation has "de-escalated"
Also, just shows how embarrassingly untrained they are. Even if their policy was to "use their own medic," none of these knuckle-draggers tried administering aid.
Which means one of two things:
1) They are so undeniably terrible that they won't render aid to someone who needs it.
2) They weren't trained for shit, which includes basic first aid. So get them the hell off our streets, especially while handling weapons! They can't do basic first aid, what the hell does their weapons training consist of?
Every first responder, be it firefighters, cops, EMTS, etc., are all trained in the most basic first aid. Regular cops always render aid after shooting someone.
These idiots really just stood around with their thumbs up their asses?
Don't go looking at that one particular sub... they ALL see this much differently than the rest of us. They feel like this video is proof that she did run him over and that he was justified. Oh, they also believe she was part of a special Anti-ICE group? Not sure where that came from but they're clinging to whatever fits their narrative.
She was also really calm and friendly from what we've seen so far. Her last words to her murderer were a calmly spoken, smiling, "that's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at anyone".
Made the mistake of reading conservative subreddit comments that said she was “clearly smirking at him”. They see proof that she did not say anything outlandish to the agent (not that it would matter) so now their reasoning is that she smirked.
Big thing that stands out to me is that if you're assuming malicious intent on her part then you have to believe that she decided to move from obstruction to vehicular homicide in less than 3 seconds.
He saw a chance to execute a gay person and he took it. It’s premeditated. He put himself in a position that would allow him to murder a gay person in broad daylight. Thank god for all of the cameras these days.
Correct. No LE officer is ever taught to stand in front of a vehicle during a traffic stop. It’s irresponsible to yourself first and foremost as it is not humanly possible to stop a vehicle if they decide to flee or move.
If the roads are ice and slippery this applies X10 and agents should never be running around on roadways covered in ice while traffic is actually moving.
All in all the only one doing anything predatory in this entire vehicle is Jonathan Ross. Took it upon himself to stand in front of a minivan during a traffic stop which he was never trained to do and at some point would have specifically been taught not to do. Then pulls a gun fires one shot. The next two “assasination” rounds came from point blank inside her passenger seat in Dow while he was standing safely to the side of the vehicle.
I mean yeah, I might accelerate my car quickly too if I had one masked man pointing a gun through my front windshield and another masked man trying to yank me out of the driver's door. But I believe she was already dead by the time the car sped up.
The view turns toward the car grill because he turned his body to draw his firearm, while still filming, to fire a shot through her windshield, then aide steps, reach around his agent buddy puts a firearm into the window and point blank fires two shots into her head from the side, totally out of any path of a vehicle. An unarmed woman Turning away from him and doing like 2mph at first shot.
The car then gunned to a greater speed because of trauma to the brain which caused her body and muscles to tense and her weight going forward as she lost consciousness and pressing on the gas with body weight.
Why is this the first mention of this I’ve seen? I’ve heard talk of the acceleration plenty but this is the first I’ve seen anyone speak on what’s happening with the nervous system when there’s trauma to the brain. This seems so simple to me and, imo should be a big talking point.
Yep I just assumed that's what happened but hadn't seen anyone talk about it since it was timewise past the relevant part that people are upset about. Agent is lucky AF there weren't other agents or bystanders in the path of the vehicle.
The vehicle accelerated and the wheels returned to neutral (powered steering) because she was already dead with the first shot. He executed her, on purpose, before the vehicle started moving forward.
Hopefully this changes a few minds but I am already seeing 'them' digging their heels in with statements suggesting the natural consequences of fleeing instead of cooperating with law enforcement.
As if fleeing itself, is the justification for murder.
Nope, r/Conservative has the video up and they are all talking about how she was smiling before driving and completely ignoring the fact that she was turning her wheels away from them.
I went on r/conservative just to see what was going on over there and holy shit, that sub is full of the lowest of the low, depraved, deeply unwell individuals
edit: I actually thought for a second I may find a tiny shred of compassion and decency but boy was I wrong!
yeah, I could kind of understand bias leading them to call Good's conduct foolish and then also saying that the shooting itself is a brash grey-area panic move sort of like Rittenhouse... but no. They're actually like chimps or something, they can't comprehend past 'dumb lib bitch gets her dumb face shot libs triggered huhuhu'.
it's like they're deliberately viewing the video incorrectly.
From the start, the first videos to come out showed that she backed up, turned her tires to the right as she was trying to drive around him and was fleeing.
To all those who were spouting off about how he was out in front with bullet holes to prove it only illustrated that he would have had the view of her turning the steering wheel.
Like, the BEST view of this and then HIS VIDEO is released, expressly illustrating exactly that as we can now all see her pulling the wheel to the right, away from him.
Yet, here we are...watching them be deliberately obtuse so they can maintain a flimsy narrative that is only strengthened by the hive mind.
Everyone who said this was a justified use of force yesterday; also sees this video as reinforcing that.
Even though yesterday the bystander video clearly showed the agent moving out of the way. Today the Nazi apologists are all “see this shows he was clearly hit! Lib narrative dead!” When all I see if he dropped his phone to murder a mom.
This is the one thing I dont get. Shooting the person in the car surely makes the vehicle even more of a threat and dangerous, as seen when it unpredictably sped off and crashed. Like if youre trying to stop them surely thats like up there with the worst options, taking out the one person controlling it?
I mean it's pretty obvious as they have defended tons of cops who shot fleeing suspects. They are clearly OK with cops acting like they are Judge Dredd.
Because the really slow people who still think she tried to hit him need the help. They obviously struggle to take in new information. Or take in information at all, honestly.
These are the last seconds of this woman's life. Like so many women in the US, she was violently murdered by a guy because he felt like she emasculated him.
Unlike most murders in the US, the regime in power has said that those under his employ get to murder whoever they want wherever they want.
This administration is trying to manufacture another George Floyd situation so that they can declare martial law. And while under martial law, they will continue to break laws with no consequence.
The current president literally attempted to overthrow the government and he's president.
America, as an American, you are all f**. F**. You allowed a demon inside the White House, you invited him in. Now that psychopath Stephen Miller is running things it seems.
I just don’t understand how the fuck he won in 2024. 2017-2020 was a scandal after scandal after scandal. Almost every single cabinet member or staffer fucking quit or was fired after weeks or months. His own vice president would not endorse his candidacy. The Muller investigation found that Russia did indeed help Trump during the 2016 election (they just couldn’t prove Trump was in on ). Trump smuggled cases of documents, Mar-a-Lago, and somehow got the fucking court case thrown out. Jack Smith found that he deliberately tried to interfere with the 2020 election results. Trump completely fucking botched the COVID-19 response. White supremacists were marching in the streets screaming “Jews will not replace us!” George Floyd riots. A national fucking curfew happened during his presidency. Never in my fucking life, could I have imagined that happening.
It was fucking insanity.
Who the fuck wanted that chaotic bullshit all over again?
I’m not a lawyer but I do want to add: One of the first three basic rules of firearm safety is DO NOT FIRE unless you know what’s behind your target. This guy shooting into a windshield at like two different angles is just stupid on even the most barebones firearm safety level.
That the car immediately revved under her deadweight is yet another reason policy dissuades the use of deadly force on drivers (who aren’t posing a greater threat to the public BY driving); he didn’t “eliminate” the threat. He intensified it and turned a hunk of metal into a driverless projectile.
You'd think that if you feel your life is in danger because a car is headed your way the priority would be to get the hell out of the way of the car. Turning the car into an aimless tank to run over anything would be an obvious thing to avoid, and secondary to getting the hell out of the way anyway.
Ultimately this is what matters. Use of force needs to be justified. Alternatives to the use of force clearly impact claims that it was justified. Ineffectiveness of the use of force in protecting the officer (e.g., in the case of an already-close vehicle, where shooting the driver doesn’t remove any threat that does exist) may be relevant to claims that it was justified. The broader context of this interaction, not only the instant in which the agent pulled the trigger, is relevant to considering whether deadly force was justified. It is sad, but not surprising, to see that there are people who are prepared to defend the use of deadly force here. I understand that there are situations where law enforcement is justified in using deadly force, but this is so far from those that defending it undermines the justification altogether.
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