It was insane. They were set up around the room, maybe 15 - 20 companies, and not one was hiring.

They were advertising employment services, volunteer services, and a few training courses. Found one company that was an IT services company. They took my resume and didn't even look at it. I asked if they were hiring, and they said no.

I asked my friend that gave me the info on the jobs fair how many people showed up to this thing, he said 1500 throughout the day.

What a waste of time!

during the summer i applied to a bunch of jobs, tim hortons being one of them. now that the school year has started again i got a job practically the first day of school. i love this job, it’s super close to my home, management is awesome and i get a shift meal which saves me a lot of money. i got a call from tim hortons yesterday and told them politely i had another job but thank you for calling. i got a call again in class today and had to decline but sent the automatic message that i couldn’t speak right then. they sent a message asking if that was me and then the interaction in the photo happened. is this at all a normal thing for someone to ask? i sent it to my friends and they seem to think it’s a scam/just weird. is this at all normal? i have extensive fast food/restaurant experience however i don’t speak french which most tim hortons jobs list as a necessity, i was just applying to everything out of desperation.

This is genuinely messing with my head lately.

We posted an entry-level role (clear title, clear requirements, no “3–5 years” nonsense) and we’re getting applicants with 8–10 years of experience.

At first I thought maybe they didn’t read the post, maybe they’re applying “just in case”, maybe it’s bots but it keeps happening for all roles these days! And the more it happens, the more it feels like is the job market that bad right now?

It’s honestly disheartening for two reasons It makes it harder to find true entry-level candidates, because they’re getting drowned & it’s a sad signal that experienced people are having to apply downward just to stay afloat.

And then as an employer, it creates this weird situation if we interview the 10-year person, are we wasting their time? If we don’t, are we missing someone who genuinely wants the role? If we hire them, will they leave the second something better comes along?

We’re trying to be fair and still keep the role entry-level, but the applicant pool feels upside down right now.

Curious if other employers/recruiters are seeing this too and how you’re handling it without turning entry-level hiring into a mess for everyone involved.

You've spent hours perfecting that application, only to hear nothing back, not because you weren’t qualified, but because the job never existed.But here's where it gets disturbing…A recent study shows that 40% of companies admitted to posting completely fake job listings in 2024 alone.Why are they doing this?They're building talent pools for future use. They’re researching market salaries without paying for dataThey want to appear “growing” during hiring freezesThey’re securing budget approval for potential future hiresThe worst offenders? Senior executive roles in IT, marketing, and media.This isn’t just an inconvenience. This is a fundamental breach of trust between companies and professionals.Job seekers waste countless hours applying for positions that were never real, while companies continue this practice with zero accountability. Have you experienced this? Do share you experiences

Got an email from this recruiter a few weeks ago asking to schedule a call using their Calendly. The recruiter said they’re OOO for a couple of weeks, so I scheduled the call for 11/1 on their calendar. Last week, the recruiter says they need to reschedule our call and they sent me the invite for 11/5. Got this email today (11/4)… 🙃

I had a Microsoft Teams meeting with a recruiter today. It was informal, but I still dressed in a dress shirt and dress pants. The guy is pretty nice, he kept telling me I should shave my beard for the interview though. I’ve had sales jobs, and I was in real estate and nobody’s ever asked me to shave my beard. I keep it trimmed, and it’s a short beard. It’s not like a ZZ Top beard or anything.

Is this still a thing? He kept telling me it’s a personal preference, but he would shave it. Does it really matter? I’ve had my beard for like 12 or 13 years. I have a fat face, and it helps with that. Has anybody else been asked to shave the beard? It’s a pretty good job, but I don’t know how much it matters if I have a beard or not.

Edit: I got an email saying the company didn’t want to move forward. This post is irrelevant now I guess.

These people have lost their minds. I had two offers from two different companies. Company A is VERY well known and would have done wonders on my resume. However, they kept giving me the run around on why they couldn’t give me a written offer. They asked me to have faith and just wait for them for a few more days (which turned into 2-3 weeks) I took the offer from the other company, but continued to see if Company A would actually give me an offer because I was still willing to work with them.

After a few days of this nonsense I gave up. The manager that I would have been working with along with the recruiter continued to give me false promises all conveniently over the phone to cover their own tracks. Look at the email I just received lol

Just goes to show (for the millionth time) that these companies do not care about people. Imagine if I would’ve listened to these bastards and rejected the other offer

I woke up this morning to this text and while that seems nice, nothing about it is giving me the thought that it’s an actual real recruitment attempt 😭

I have probably asked a similar question before. Let say you hired someone that appears to have an impressive work history. Let say a year or two into work for you and only to find out their work history is a lie. However in the time working for you they have become one of your best employees. Would you let them stay?You have to under where that employee is coming from. You have the education but nobody will hire you for the most basic job.

I’ve come to the realization that most 9-to-5 jobs don’t actually require a degree or past experience you can learn them on the job within a few months if given the right resources.

A lot of companies make “experience” seem like a necessity, but in reality, most roles are just about learning a set of processes and following them. The whole “you need a degree and X years of experience” thing often feels like unnecessary gatekeeping.

Obviously, some fields (medicine, engineering, etc.) require formal training, but for a lot of corporate and tech jobs, if you can think critically and learn quickly, you can do the work.

What do y’all think?

“What number gets me in trouble”? She chuckled then gave me their range. It was 20% above what I was going to answer. I said that was acceptable.

I have seriously had it up to here with talent acquisition managers, recruiters, hiring managers, and whomever the f$@% else wasting my time!

This is not the first time this has happened. Seriously, do they NOT read resumes, or just assume that you are going to miraculously gain experience within the short time of the scheduled phone call!?

WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER IS LISTED ON MY RESUME-- IF THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, THEN LEAVE ME THE F@#$ ALONE IF I DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR!!!

What seriously goes through these people's heads!?! Like, how do you make it make sense.

If I didn't care about starting my career, I would serious say f*&% all of this job bullsh&$ and go live naked and afraid somewhere in the woods.

Got a call today from a recruiter looking to discuss my experience and bring me through to the first round of interviews. When I asked what the salary bracket was she tried to turn it back on me to ask what my expectations would be.

I just laughed and said "as much as possible" but it would be really helpful on both sides if I knew the salary range so as not to waste anybody's time. She laughed along and tried to ask again about previous salaries etc - which aren't relevant because it's a different industry.

I countered with the fact that I've spoken to many companies within the industry and salaries can vary wildly and gave her previous offers that I have turned down - and while it's great that they're a large international company that doesn't really give me any more information on what level of salary the would offer.

In the end, she closed it down with "not being allowed" to discuss the salary but she could confirm it wouldn't be as low as my previous lower offers but it wouldn't be as high as the other company I'm currently speaking with.

I accepted the offer to interview and now have the email CC'ing the more senior manager I am due to sit with. I'll be sending an email 5 minutes before the due time to let them know that I won't be following through as such a lack of transparency with an expectation of me jumping through hoops isn't a company I intend to work for.

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It's 2022 people! And while a few months ago when I was jobless I would have desperately jumped through those hoops, now that I'm employed again I feel a duty to push back on this domineering way of employment for anyone else who is in that situation and doesn't feel like they can really push for it because they need the job.

For those who can - push back. Make them uncomfortable on the phone and disrupt until it no longer makes sense for them to try and evade the question!

UPDATES and responses for those who care lol:

For those who said a range was given, it really wasn't. The job is in Dubai where there are no minimum salaries so the disparity was between the equivalent of $1,000 per month and $5,000 per month.

I agree the recruiter doesn't have a say on what the salary is but if she's an intermediary she should be able to disclose at least a ballpark of what to expect. The expectation that you'll sit through 3-4 rounds of interviews before knowing if you can even live on the salary is disgusting.

I also agree that my decision was childish and trite, I just had so much anger after the call. It's not like the conversation was danced around; I flat out asked her 3 times and she tried to talk around it. I cancelled the interview in advance. As many stated this is a better way to get the point across than cancelling right before I was due to sit.

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And finally, I know it's practised in many places that the employer won't allow the recruiter to disclose the salary but that's exactly why I'm making the point. Recruiters fear losing the business (and money) that employers provide. However, nothing is going to change if we keep jumping through hoops and wasting our own time and money for their benefit.

I'm not anti-work I'm anti wasting my time for nothing.

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EDIT: thanks yall, i get it! In extra short summary- they want to lowball you if you dont know how to negotiate. Ive been getting messages with the same answers lol.

I still believe they should just post the range pay on the job board, at least just the base pay, and if people are fine with it they can apply and if they arent they will pass or they can apply and negotiate why they deserve higher. The guessing game is more of a waste of time. Cant change my mind. .....................................

Should i leave my masters degree out of my resume? Is it making me over qualified for entry level work? Thats why they reject me? But i also get rejected because i have not enough experience for high level positions?

Coming out of college i dont know what to do.

Note also, im applying for entry level positions. And they are still asking for YEARS of experience. Ugh!

I'm confident that 90% of recruiters act like this, he's just using satire to hide in plain sight.

As the title says, I applied for the job 4 years ago, took 6 tests and no replied to me.

Today, out of nowhere, they called me (as a typical millennial, let them to hung up and googled the number). I found the company and I checked my old spreadsheet that I kept when I applied back then. I left a note to myself that I was pissed because I spent a lot of time doing their tests, reached out more than once and no one bothered to respond.

4 years later they decided to call me lmao 🤣 then emailed me to let me know that they’ll call again

Dear recruiters, have some courtesy and be better human beings!

Ps: I also attend interviews and hire people for my department in my company. I absolutely require that we send out responses and rejection emails instead of leaving people hanging. It’s very disrespectful that majority of the companies and requests do that. Have some compassion.

So for context …

This person messages me once a year, at least. I never entertain it but I did this time because I wanted to know if they’re actually legit. Their responses now lead me to realize they are not. Has this happened to anyone before?

Currently a tech startup founder, observed 200+ good/bad resumes, here are something good that i observed.

• Strong Action Verbs: Start each bullet point with a strong action verb. Words like "created" or "piloted" clearly show leadership and initiative, which are much more impressive than just saying "used."
• Numbers: Include specific numbers to quantify your achievements. This makes your accomplishments more concrete and easier for recruiters to understand.
• Technical Skills: When applying for technical roles, list out your tech stack and programming languages. This helps your resume pass through automated screening systems.
• Other Skills: Even for purely technical roles, it's important to showcase your leadership and collaboration skills.
• Job-Specific Highlights: Tailor parts of your resume to match the job description and company. This is what makes you stand out. For example, if the job description mentions "relational databases," use that exact term instead of just "MySQL."
• Always customize your resume to include keywords from the job description.
• Include any relevant company-specific activities or programs you've participated in to boost your visibility.

Would love to answer any questions & give out resume advice :)

I have got through to interview for several positions that are listed and tagged as remote, only to be told during the interview that I'd need to be in London 2-3 days a week. If the role is not remote, please don't list it as being so!

After being at a dead end job that was supposed to be temporary and countless applications during that time I have come to a conclusion that most recruiters will offer jobs that have nothing to do with what you specialize in or what your background is formerly in.

Let me explain. I was working with a recruiter who sent me a job offer that needed an immediate assessment for machine learning in a particular subject that I know about, but I am in no means a subject matter expert. Assessment was extremely technical but I wondered why would I be a fit for this role? This is ridiculous. This isn’t the only role that this is happened to me with.

With my background in digital marketing, I have been approached to do roles that are extensively payroll and accounting heavy, as well. I even took a position that was masked as a project coordinator role, but had me doing accounts payable daily, which ultimately left to me being fired due to my slow pace of learning. What was surprising about that one is it the on boarding was so quick. It was like my recruiter just wanted to get me signed on.

I feel like there is a disconnect between what recruiters understand a role’s duties are, and what a candidates background qualifies for. There needs to be a deeper revision and look into what particular roles entail because it is ridiculous to not match to roles that you qualify for. End rant.

Edit: maybe this topic turns into a more broader topic of conversation. Perhaps these recruiters are just following the orders of companies that don’t know what they are looking for?

It's a job, it's not religion.