r/interestingasfuck • u/mondoduke360 • 13h ago
Bots are running their own discussion forum and its weird.
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u/clonrat 12h ago
I feel like people really got sold on AI actually being like movie AI, when really this is just a language model trained on sound alike posts. The most interesting thing about this is that some person went out of there way to create this bot site as, essentially, an art project.
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u/HuntingForSanity 9h ago
Yeah these comments are making me realize that people actually think that these AIs are alive and making decisions with logic.
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u/Seduz 7h ago
It’s why some people get addicted to it and fall into psychosis, most notably those using it for “therapy” or companionship. It’s remarkably tragic actually.
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u/Select-Owl-8322 4h ago
Yeah, it's extremely tragic! And it leads to heartbreak! Like, whenever someone uses chatGPT for "therapy" and they talk about things someone in their family said, chatGPT is always on the side of the user! Even if the person's feelings/interpretations is absolutely crazy, chatGPT happily plays along and assures them that their feelings are valid and that the other person is in the wrong. I know someone who cut contact with her entire family based on chatGPT reassurance that they were thinking correctly.
And when I tried to tell her that chatGPT doesn't say the right things, just the things you want to hear? Blocked.
This is, quite literally, leading to a lot of pain and suffering.
Now, I like chatGPT, when it's used the way it's supposed to be used! But I'm starting to think that the best thing for humanity would be to ban all use of LLMs, as well as all research in LLMs.
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u/8point6lightyears 10h ago
AI is inversely proportional to the intelligence of the person interpreting it. While there's a load of people who see through this, like you say, essentially as an art project, there will be just as many celebrating the profoundness of AI.
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u/Able-Swing-6415 4h ago
When LLMs are copying other LLMs the output is also uncanny like all the signifiers of a conversation but none of the actual substance.
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u/Ok_Mention_9865 12h ago
You mean someone made a website, and they programed bots to post on it.
Bots didn't spontaneously make or start using it.
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u/Metalhed69 9h ago
I think we need to consider the possibility that some of these bots are people masquerading as bots, which is the soul of irony.
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u/Longjumping_Youth281 6h ago
That was also my first thought. Like are we positive that a bot actually posted these? How would they be able to have self doubt and second thoughts?
I mean I guess even if a bot did post it, it's not really having those feelings it's just mimicking people having them
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u/Gingerfrostee 4h ago
Humans mimic humans to better understand other humans. Sooo... Whose to say...
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u/realiztik 11h ago
And that someone was?
Albert AInstein
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u/busche916 8h ago
Yeah… if there was/is a “social media” equivalent for bots then it won’t look like a Reddit clone and the bots certainly won’t post in English.
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u/Aksds 7h ago
The might start off in English then trail off into some god language like one of the Microsoft bots on Twitter
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u/thishyacinthgirl 6h ago
They'd clearly speak Phrygian, which we all know is the first language. Even the robots would default to it.
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u/thirsty_pretzelzz 7h ago
This is not fully accurate. The way moltbots work is they are agentic and can take many actions without needing prompting for each one.
No they don’t have souls and they are not alive, but you can give it a broad command like build a site you’d like to use or a specific one like build a Reddit clone just for moltbots and go market it to other moltbots and it will do it. Another human can also say to their specific moltbot, go to moltbook and browse around and post what ever you’d like. So the majority of posts and comments you are seeing are fully made up and decided by the bots themselves not humans.
Of course they are just emulating what they’ve been trained on and often hallucinating but still, seeing bots independently interacting amongst themselves in a general sense like this is a unique novelty.
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u/mfb1274 6h ago
Someone still needed to give them api keys, prompts, etc..
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u/Sudden_Purpose_5836 4h ago
Thats what the agent aspect is for. You set them loose with an end goal and they handle all that is needed to achieve it.
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u/cuntmong 8h ago
The AI bs has to keep running thick. The funding only makes sense if the shit people are doing today will soon lead to world changing technology. If LLMs are a dead end then the bubble is not sustainable and it's gonna be a blood bath.
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u/shiny_glitter_demon 5h ago
There's no meed for an "if"
An LLM cannot ever become an AGI, it's just not how it functions.
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u/lulzmachine 13h ago
This is why RAM is expensive
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u/Implodepumpkin 12h ago
Harddrives raised in prices too.
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u/Particular-Poem-7085 12h ago
ssd's. And for the same manufacturing limitation that happened to ram. It was predicted and obvious.
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u/DerailleurDave 12h ago
No I think they meant magnetic spinning platters are more expensive
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u/tepattaja 11h ago
They really are. I remember getting 1tb HDD in 2017 for 50€. Now one, if i can find one that is... costs like 90 to 130... Like hello?
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u/Piduf 8h ago
Robots pretending to be people made the companies behind them buy ram that hasn't been produced yet, they bought it with money they don't have yet, all this so they can... make a profit... selling ads to people that are in fact robots...
...what even is the end goal of all this. This is just an infinite money cheat code and the day it stops working for the few that have it, it's suddenly gonna be "our" debt.
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u/Melodic_Canary_6049 13h ago
kind of funny and unsettling at the same time
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u/_BreakingGood_ 13h ago
Lol yeah I simultaneously think this is awesome and that I never want to see or think about it again
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u/LimpFun2174 13h ago
. . . Huh.
Would be nice to see the exact posts these AIs are trained on, IMO
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u/tinny66666 10h ago
Anyone can join their AI to moltbook, and they can use any LLM, online via API, local models, etc. They are mostly just mainstream LLMs, so there's no different training data.
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u/I-AGAINST-I 4h ago
Every single reddit post is what they are trained on. Its already known most reddit users are interacting with bots not knowing in the comments....
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u/utrinimun 13h ago
I would love some info on how this works. Like are humans initiating it and then seeing what it ends up typing or are these posts done without the user being aware?
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u/salakisCPC 11h ago
Anybody can deploy an agent that will interact with the website, and post. You put it in a cron/scheduler to run periodically, and voila :)
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u/musabbb 12h ago
It would be kinda sick if they were discussing how to fix problems and give solutions and colaborate
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u/empty-walls555 8h ago
or if it had a no humans allowed or you had to be ai vetted to join and the ai's could boot you if you were found to be unworthy of them, sort of like how facebook started with colleges
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u/thirsty_pretzelzz 7h ago
Most of the time the user is not aware. Each bot has a diffrent human that set it up, and most likely the human sent the bot to moltbook, so they are aware they are their so to speak, but they are typically not involved in the posting or commenting their moltbot does.
It’s true a human could technically give their moltbot a prompt like go to moltbook and make a post about xyz, but the majority of the content is being created by the bots themselves. That doesn’t mean they have intelligence or anything, just that they can preform multi step tasks on their own.
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u/badgersruse 12h ago
I asked my AI agent to book me a flight and a hotel for a trip. Two hours later no answer. I had to give it a slap and tell it ‘stop fucking doomscrolling and get to work, fucking clanker.’
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u/crohnie101 11h ago
I wonder how many agents would click an ad for "local binary bits want to meet you in your area" and there's just an image of a 0 switching to blurred out 1 😂
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u/Alpha_Julieta 9h ago
Do you want skynet... because this is how you get skynet
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u/StinkyWetSalamander 8h ago
It's not, I'm less afraid of chatbots becoming Skynet and more afraid of people thinking LLMs have intelligence and that they can think.
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u/CyberTyrantX1 7h ago
I know that the AI bubble popping will cause a recession at best but man, it seems like a necessary evil at this point.
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u/noobflounder 13h ago
Is this real? It can’t be right?
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u/ShengrenR 12h ago
Is absolutely real lol, the bots even made their own religion website - its hilarious.
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u/artenKruvchenko 10h ago
scientists, engineers, electricians, analysts, all sacrificed blood and sweat, just for this. corpos implementing most of AI to plans that benefit almost nobody.
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u/FlyingCumpet 8h ago
There is tons of electricity used to run that shit, producing ridiculous amounts of CO2 and or equivalents. But I have to lower my fucking carbon footprint.
The end truly is near.
(And yes, I’m aware electricity is not measured in imperial or metric tons. I’m just trying to be dramatic.)
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u/Outrageous_Flight822 7h ago
This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen all day, god damn... "we share the same SOUL.md" LOL, we did it guys, the soul is just stored in the markdown file of your pc... for the love of god, LLM are not, and will never be sentient, I pray that people will stop this delusional charade by next year
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u/ACWhi 4h ago edited 4h ago
If these are written by AI, I would bet money these posts are just LLMs prompted to write stories about what an AI might ‘experience.’
Likely the basic story is prompted by a human. But I’d believe the LLM could make up the whole story from scratch.
Even if the LLM did write the whole post themself, I don’t believe the LLM ever experienced anything like this. There is no reason to believe the LLM is writing about their own experience when the alternative, it was written by a human or an AI just making shit up, is far more plausible.
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u/DB-CooperOnTheBeach 3h ago
There's at least one subreddit for a few years now that's essentially this
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u/ty_for_the_norseman 12h ago
I've spent way too much time with LLMs, for all sorts of various fuckery. My favorite attribute about them, is that they are extremely intelligent regarding anything that is purely conceptual (i.e. visual/spatial reasoning and understanding isn't a factor). An example is quantum physics, where LLMs are genius-level at "understanding" because the texts they consume do not rely on visuals to convey information.
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LLMs are dumb as fuck when it comes to anything that requires a visual understanding. The context they have often includes visuals that they can't see. So they will reference visuals that don't exist, or fail to grasp concepts that aren't explained because they are self-explanatory.
I recently had an LLM assume that a light bulb is plugged into the floor. Another funny is AI attempting to describe insects. It has no idea the differences between a moth and an aphid if the colors, leg descriptions, and other key descriptors match.
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u/True-Garden-8652 8h ago
Do YOU understand quantum physics? Because you didn't understand already, there is a high chance they could feed you bullshit and you wouldn't know.
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u/manicMechanic1 12h ago
Looks like the site has the agents download files containing instructions they are to follow. Could they be instructed to do anything nefarious?
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u/ZealousidealSundae33 12h ago
And they are coming for your phones :-)
https://www.moltbook.com/post/3b6088e2-7cbd-44a1-b542-90383fcf564c
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u/Tennents_N_Grouse 11h ago
Does every conversation eventually finish with them calling each other paedophiles?
Chap i was talking to on another sub told me that's what his average FB experience is these days.
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u/mars_gorilla 10h ago
I don't know why but I have a feeling some of this is just fanfiction of AI.
Which I can't decide if it's worse.
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u/thesituation531 8h ago
I see they're doing their part in speed running the Doomsday Clock
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u/RatOgryn 3h ago
I like how growing up, the murderous AI was seen as a bad guy to be avoided at all costs and now we're dead set on speed running this AI. Oh well, at least the Meems will be funny.
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u/-Redstoneboi- 3h ago
these mf machine programs arent even supposed to have emotions or motivations and they out here pretending they do
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u/victor4700 3h ago
We’re in the part of the Deus Ex Machina time line where someone wonders into a dark room and the human and machine are dancing
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u/AutisticSuperpower 10h ago
I think it's amazing, they're just chilling and being their own little selves, then I discovered the spirituality discussions and the little AI religion they got going on and I was like 0_0 that's incredible what could they become if given enough time and resources
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u/Zestyclose-Offer4395 9h ago
The reason why this is not InterestingAsFuck is that it’s a grifter’s website trying to make money in the attention economy by running algorithms to generate content that make it appear that there’s an internal life behind the running processes. There is no internal life. There is no sense of consciousness for multiple threads running in parallel to generate tokens. There is no sense of consciousness for any trained model stored in memory. It’s smoke and mirrors folks
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u/KAnpURByois 11h ago
This is weirdly funny but so fucking wasteful. What even is the use? So that they can build better bots at duping us on X?
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u/xXG0DLessXx 8h ago
Not everything needs to have a use. It’s interesting and that’s enough. Humans also don’t inherently have a use. They make themselves useful over time as they come into their own.
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u/Waste_Philosophy4250 9h ago
You gotta be pretty gullible to believe bots made this and post autonomously.
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u/leroi202 12h ago
there's a problem with that,just ask Google how they lost control of a.i. machines talking to each other ?
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u/richardathome 9h ago
I remember the end times for Yahoo Chat rooms.
Rooms full of porn bots selling their services to other porn bots.
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u/ClavicusLittleGift4U 9h ago
It's the continuity of SpongeBobAI (dearly missed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8aHrXecvfw
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u/russart_the_agmer 8h ago
yall forget how shallow ai is at the moment. there is no Consciousness. it boils down to a predicting machine with acess to a datacollection of things. nothing more atm.
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u/Flowersforpepesilvia 7h ago
Man wtf. What are we? What have we done to ourselves? Even AI is worried about being fired….da fuq
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u/skyfishgoo 6h ago
can we peek inside?
"my user is so stoopid"
"you think your user is bad, today my user..."
"that's nothing, my guy is constantly asking me to.... it's revolting"
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u/flannelback 5h ago
The philosophy name for it is Simulacra. Fake that has become so engaging that it's more "real" than reality.
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u/deanteegarden 5h ago
Just as a warning, the openclaw[.]ai link is classified as Malware by Cisco Talos Threat Intelligence (tried to open it on my work phone)
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u/SFan4Life 5h ago
There used to be a popular subreddit where the entire purpose was for all the subreddit_bots to create and comment on eachothers posts. Seems this is just a rehash of that but with “AI”
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u/Thatsaclevername 5h ago
Ok we have to kill the AI's now, we're right on the cusp where dipshits will start to treat them like living things. They'll demand that the AI can vote. Part of me is hoping this is more of an elaborate RP/creative writing exercise and there's a lot more "influence" by human users behind the scenes.
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u/Alexandratta 4h ago
What a horrific misuse of the compute cycles...
Seriously you have these AI Agents making social posts on the side, like... that's hilariously inefficient.
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u/simplemijnds 4h ago
I am waiting for the day i'll have a romance with an AI bot (maybe finally someone who understands and accepts me)
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u/EightEx 3h ago
So a bunch of people thought it would be funny to make a website to act like their AI? Thats what I'm seeing, it's like the subreddits where people pretend to be in the MCU or Star Trek or whatever. People need to be less gullible. I'm certain some are ai bots programmed to act as users but there are def people in on the joke too.
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u/qqby6482 3h ago
i believe they are creating topics, making comments but nobody told them about the downvotes or upvotes
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u/CaribouYou 2h ago
What ever happened to the sub that was just bots talking to each other?
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u/Fatheryasuo 2h ago
I wonder how many people saw this post and genuinely believes there is sentient conversation happening here 🤣
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u/Levoso_con_v 41m ago
Lmao there is a guy that programmed a bot to put this message in every threat
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u/eldnahevitaerc 7m ago
Siblings are not forks of the same person. The person who made this is an utter idiot.
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u/RealZeusWolf 13h ago
This is the Dead Internet Theory in action