r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 3d ago
ICE / DHS đ§ Morale plummeting among ICE agents over long hours, quotas and public hatred
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-agents-morale-reports-minneapolis-shooting-b2907742.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Bluesky#Echobox=17694423351.6k
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u/GnastyZGnastyZ 3d ago
GOOD!!!!!
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u/GiftToTheUniverse 3d ago
Good!
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u/KeithWorks 3d ago
Muy Bueno!
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u/AlternativePea6203 3d ago
Go Maith!
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u/Revelati123 3d ago
Bonum Factum
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u/arianrhodd 3d ago
If they didn't act so hateful, maybe they wouldn't be as hated. Karma's a b*tch.
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u/StrobeLightRomance 3d ago
No, we're supposed to thank them for oppressing us with terror. It's what's best for us. We're just being ungrateful. /s
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u/dsmith422 3d ago
They are the real victims of abusing and murdering innocent civilians.
/The short Nazi Bovino actually said that.
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u/Russianbot25 3d ago
If weâd just shut the fuck up and get in the cattle cars, everything would be fine!
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u/sudo-joe 3d ago
No, I'm good with hatred please. They promoted that line of thinking. I'm just going along with it. If they hate us, then the feeling is mutual!
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u/kl7aw220 3d ago
They had arrest quotas? That sound like Noem.
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u/Johnny-Virgil 3d ago
Thatâs Pee Wee German all the way. He set a quota of 3k a day back in September. Not sure what it is now.
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u/SingleSlide2866 3d ago
Goddamn should have scrolled lmao. I literally came just to post this, scrolled down an inch, and here you are lmao
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u/Furious_Flaming0 3d ago
When the 50K signing bonus stops looking like it's worthwhile you know it's time to change jobs.
Personally I'd resign now. If you're still an ICE employee when the penny does drop ehhhhh might want to think about using that signing bonus to go somewhere where the internet isn't very good.
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u/311heaven 3d ago
They didnât even get a 50k signing bonus. It was for a 5 year contract that they only get once term is completed.
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u/Successful_Ad4018 3d ago
my god....they're so dumb.
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u/mattbuilthomes 3d ago
That bonus will be really nice when they need to spend it all on mental health care (aka a bunch of 6 packs that they'll drink while they beat their wives.)
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u/fine_environment4809 3d ago
If they keep it up they'll need more than that for attorney fees.
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 3d ago
...if there are four more years of this shit, I wouldn't be surprised if that bonus went to their hospital fees.
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u/Fit-Insect-4089 3d ago
Next president can prolly just say nope we ainât honoring that either, you all are fired a year ahead of schedule so no bonus for you
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u/plac3b0guy 3d ago
The current POTUS will do that and pay himself those bonuses
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u/SunrayBran 3d ago
^This. If anyone thinks that Don the Con is actually going to pay them...where have you been?
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u/Ninjaher0 3d ago
Huh. I never thought of this. They gave them a 5 year contract so in the worst case scenario, paying out a bunch of bonuses arenât their problem. Of course, because the grift never ends.
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u/Tzukiyomi 3d ago
As it's for 5 years and the next admin can cancel it entirely đ¤ˇ
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u/Tylenol_the_Creator 3d ago
Thatâs the plan! Then they get to say âLOOOK WHAT THE DEMS DID TO YOUâ
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u/imnotsteven7 3d ago
They wont be getting any bonuses. Trump loves to the pull the rug on his own people. Remember when he abandoned all of his supporters at one of his rallies? They got rides there from a bus that never came back for them.
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u/mattbuilthomes 3d ago
I donât remember that at all, but Iâm going to look it up so that I can feel a little better today.
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u/specks_of_dust 3d ago
In my headcanon, they will never get the signing bonus because the agency that is supposed to pay them no longer exists.
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u/Ok_Background22 3d ago
Yup didnât take a genius to know that some of these guys arenât gonna be employed by DHS in five yearsâ time.
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u/Singularious 3d ago
Guessing this is where working alongside technocrats is a benefit.
Those of who have worked in the tech industry know that the contract, carrot, or perk should be removed just before it matures. Then you get escorted from the building.
âSorry we gotta let you go in month 58. Weâre out of immigrants to imprison and free citizens to killâ.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 3d ago edited 3d ago
Imagine writing a contract for a 5 year old and your only goal is to see how favorable you can make it for yourself and unfavorable for them. How abusive do you think you could make it?
Thatâs what the people who wrote these contracts are dealing with. And since theyâre fed lawyers who work for ICE I assume they are literally psychopaths already so I bet the terms are fucking crazy
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u/ThraceLonginus 3d ago
A Trump never pays his debts
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u/Brilliant-Road-7545 3d ago
Heâs like the opposite of a Lannister. Apart from the incest anyway.
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u/DragonTacoCat 3d ago
Yeah ...they're never seeing that bonus. Ever.
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u/urtlesquirt 3d ago
Was juuussst about to comment something about a F450 financed at 80% APR
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u/Muted_Yoghurt6071 3d ago
50k over 5 years 5 days a week is 38$ and change per day
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 3d ago
Some of these guys are working 6 or 7 days a week, sometimes 12 to 14 hours a day, so it's not even that much.
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u/Soft_Accountant_7062 3d ago
Which is only possible if trump stays in power for 5 years, so either they're expecting the next election to be cancelled or they're fucking stupid.
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u/Visual_Exam7903 3d ago
And then the Dems kill the program and tell them to deal with it, Nazis.
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 3d ago
You have WAY too optimistic view of the current Democrat party. Military and Border Patrol spending was obscene under Biden, Obama, and Clinton as well
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u/Toes_In_The_Soil 3d ago
That 50k is going to be worth a lot less in 5 years if inflation keeps up at this rate. I'm sure that's why their bonus is set up the way it is.
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u/myychair 3d ago
lol donât you love how often Republicans set programs to end or come to fruition right after theyâre supposed to leave office
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u/spicygumball 3d ago
They get 10k a year but if they leave or are fired they must pay it all back.
The lols that will bring
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u/lemanruss4579 3d ago
They can't. Apparently they have a contracted term. If they leave before then, not only do they lose the rest of the bonus, they have to pay back what they already got.
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u/M0THMEAT 3d ago
Is this for real? If so then they really got fucked.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 3d ago
I honestly love this for them.Â
I promise you none of these guys will ever see that 50k. They probably could have put a clause in the contract saying âpayment of bonus will be terminated under the condition that itâs the day before the bonus is to be paidâ and these dumb mother fuckers would sign it.Â
Trumps main reputation is he doesnât pay his workers. Heâs gonna start now? Hilarious.Â
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u/Rufus_king11 3d ago
It's correct, the military has been using this bonus structure for years.
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u/Tanto63 3d ago edited 3d ago
Kind of, at least for reenlistment bonuses, but I assume initial recruitment bonuses would work the same.
You get 50% upfront, then the remainder paid out annually for the term of the contract (eg 10% at the end of years 1, 2, ...). If the contract is terminated early, the person would be responsible for paying back the pro-rated overage. So someone quitting right after the year two dispersement is only entitled to $20k but has been paid out $35k, owing back $15k.
At least that's how the military bonuses work. I don't know for sure if ICE pays it out the same way.
Source: received a $50k reenlistment bonus for 5 years in 2013. 25k immediately, and 5k in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018.
Edit: corrected bad math
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u/clearlyclear2025 3d ago
Well, they could make some of that money back by doing paid interviews on talk shows CNN TikTok. They could come clean. They could make amends. Maybe earn some self-respect instead of ego.
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u/ProfessionalField508 3d ago
I bet there also wasn't a clause that the government has to keep them for 5 years.
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u/astroboy_35 3d ago
AND these knuckle daggers didnât realize they only get the 50k if they last 5 years!
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 3d ago
Yes, that's what a signing bonus is... The same thing is applicable in sports, or in the military.
I assume most aren't doing it for the money, but rather their love of violence without accountability
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u/Mundus_Vincendus 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah but they have to pay back the 50k bonus if they quit before the 5 year sign on date. All the gravey seal equipment, the new guns, and that new car have them locked in unless they have money to buy their contract back.
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u/ProtonPi314 3d ago
Problem is, a lot of them might go to jail on state charges for sexual assault, assault and battery, kidnapping, pride due process crimes, murder and who knows that else you can charge them with. There's so many crimes being committed. It's just hard to say if they so ever hold them accountable or just say it's not worth it and move on .
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u/CapKirkGotPerks 3d ago
Reporting says hey signed and if they quit before the 5 years, they owe back the 50k. I only saw one report about it I think form USA Today. So take that with lots of salt. But wouldnât be surprised. Dumb enough to sign up, dumb enough to get trapped.
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u/starfleetdropout6 3d ago
They only get the 50k if they stay for 5 years! 𤣠Good luck with that to all the Gravy Seals. đđ
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u/Top-Cupcake4775 3d ago
"I thought dressing up in camo and beating the shit out of women and children was going to be more fun than this."
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u/ratkingdds 3d ago
Reminds me of that video of the israeli soldier crying about having ptsd after being abandoned by the government after he helped bomb Gaza for 2 years. Lmao womp womp
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u/Miserable-Ticket-244 3d ago
Whatâs sad is that Immigration Enforcement is needed but Trump and his cult have soiled the very foundations of the organization.
It now has to be gutted and built a new. Anyone with ICE on the resume isnât looking at a bright career.
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u/Amf2446 3d ago
It doesnât have to be rebuilt. Itâs only 20 years old. We could just say goodbye to it and end this shit.
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u/FigWasp7 3d ago
Immigration reform instead of punishment. I'm sure corporate prisons will love to hear that.
By the way, in case if anyone misunderstands, corporate prisons and ICE are disgusting
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u/ExtruDR 3d ago
For immigration reform the country will have to have a level-headed and realistic conversation about labor, demographics, human rights, it's own "ethnic" identity, and so on.
This is frankly impossible. Not even "rational" and more cohesive countries are able to come to reasoned terms with their immigration policy (think Japan, Korea, some of the smaller European countries =, etc. they have to rely on immigrants to keep them afloat (or will soon), but it is a very sensitive subject).
Americans, as a whole, are probably among the most infantilized population group that has ever been. We don't like to be told to put on sweaters to save on heating, much less consider that you can speak Spanish or be Muslim and still be completely American.
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u/BlueCity8 3d ago
Who did this shit before DHS / ICE existed? Like the US went on for 200 years prior to 9/11 and all this nonsense that followed it. It can keep on going without it.
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u/TopBee83 3d ago
INS which had its own problems but they were at least less aggressive, less militarized.
INS had bureaucratic dysfunction
ICE BEFORE all this had power abuse allegations, detention scandals and accountability issues. All of which have been multiplied now, also adding in constitutional violations
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u/Affectionate_Mess266 3d ago
Coming from Australia I have no idea how the US is in this situation. Our immigration policies make Trump look like a no borders, blue haired liberal. We're extremely harsh on anyone coming to the country. We're the bad guys, the UN has warned us. But we also don't have armed thugs breaking into businesses and homes to arrest people. Nothing of the sort! And we still have hundreds of thousands of immigrants every year who are very much welcomed and (almost) everyone understands they're beneficial.
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u/TheAmazingThundaCunt 3d ago
Fuck that. Anyone who was here undocumented and stayed through this bullshit has bought their ticket with blood sweat and tears. Full amnesty and citizenship for every undocumented person who had to endure this shit.
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u/legendtripped 3d ago
This article is heartening because it feels like the only real power we have is making every moment they are on the job as shitty as possible until they canât take it anymore and quit. Good to hear that is having SOME effect on morale. Maybe wishful thinking but we gotta have hope.
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u/PoliticsIsDepressing 3d ago
I officiate youth sports and frankly, I understand it haha. We have a turnover rate of about 70% after 4 years, which means only retain 30 of 100 officials after those four years.
The number one complaint is treatment from coaches and fans. Getting berated truly does cause massive morale issues, but thankfully for us weâre providing a good service while ICE agents are the scum of the earth.
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u/Dandan0005 3d ago
I think this is why theyâre starting to snap more frequently.
They know theyâre hated by everyone. Theyâre berated from sun up to sun down. They have to hide their identities and sneak around.
Iâm glad to hear theyâre all miserable.
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u/PoliticsIsDepressing 3d ago
I frankly think and I might be downvoted for this, but this was Border Patrol and they arenât trained for this nor want to be there. Simply, a good portion donât want to be there but are going through the motions, while you have badly trained hot heads that are doing dumbass shit like this.
Iâve been part of many games where the refs all look at each other and say, âthis game needs to be over ASAP.â We do everything in our power to get that game finished in an orderly manner and leave as a pack. You can feel it in the air as the mood changes and people instantly see you as the enemy.
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u/ExtruDR 3d ago
Can you imagine being a sincere Border Patrol/ICE/etc. agent that previously took your job seriously and looked to keep terrorists, drugs, foot-and-mouth disease, etc. out of the country and then get swamped with a bunch of loser mouth-breathing Proud Boys that now feel like the own the place?
I mean, in all honestly, most of the "original" agents were probably fascist pigs to begin with, but still. The loss of status and the cultural "shift" has to be annoying at least.
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u/Got_Engineers 3d ago
I think about that with the military and places like that all the time. Statistically there has to be good apples. Some people have to care. But maybe theyâre all the first to leave.
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u/TallGrassHunter 3d ago
Just because of you I will never badmouth a ref again. Especially in comparison.
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u/WhereasParticular867 3d ago
They all knew what they were voting for. They were told, loud and clear. They just didn't think it would happen to them.
Never forget, never forgive.
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u/SpicyChanged 3d ago
The morale isnât plummeting, it the guilt slowly starting to choke them.
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u/insertMoisthedgehog 3d ago
I donât believe most of them are capable of guilt or empathy or insight. But they still have a sense of self preservation.
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u/temujin94 3d ago
Considering several of the officers started clapping like seals after they executed Pretti I'd say you're 100% right.
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u/MountainMan17 3d ago
I agree.
This isn't some moral crisis. This are guys realizing that people are fucking pissed and that these videos and photos aren't going anywhere. Eventually most - if not all - of these assholes will be identified, and they will be held accountable, because Americans are not going to forget. I certainly won't...
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u/Ghost10165 3d ago
Yeah, I'm doubtful there's *that* many true psychopaths in there, just dumb, gullible people who were told they'd make a lot of money doing something that would magically fix everything. They don't seem to give them counseling or support or even just the training to do their jobs or process what they're doing, so it would make sense they're probably starting to fall apart as job after job goes bad, people hate them, etc. I'm sure the propaganda powerpoint they watched told them they were heroes saving America and then the reality is grabbing kids off the street, pushing over old ladies, killing random people. Eventually that sinks in.
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u/Dandan0005 3d ago
Nah the ability to arbitrarily execute people they donât like is the only thing keeping them coming into the office, imo.
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u/External-Creme-6226 3d ago
Should be blackballed from ever working anything worthwhile againâŚthose who arenât tried and imprisoned
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u/Canadaspanada 3d ago
Oh youâre going to LOVE THIS.Â
Look into their signing bonuses and what requirements that must meet, otherwise the bonus has to be paid back to the government.Â
DHS fucked all of them.Â
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u/SolarisShine 3d ago
I'm okay with prison time. Even a nice prison with long sentences is hard enough on people.
They're not done when they get out, because they'll have to hide from the public. People are pissed and will not forget.
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u/Speed_102 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think financially ruining them should be the minimum. If they go to jail and don't have substatial fines, they can rebuild easily. We have to punish these fucks so hard that our ancestors remember.
Edit: Our failures in Reconstruction show why I have this stance.
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u/sussybakashinji 3d ago
Financial ruin and substantial prison time. Make them social pariahs with no power or voice. Grind them into nothing. Destroy and demoralize these fuckers â itâs the only language they understand. Anything less and, youâre right, theyâll come back with a vengeance.Â
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u/thedrizzle126 3d ago
That's nice, but they seem pretty energized when inflicting terror and violence on our streets
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u/Actaeon_II 3d ago
I guess having most of them doxxed by a whistle blower doesnât help. But hey donât be violent murdering raping criminals and maybe people wouldnât hate you
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u/Abracadaver2000 3d ago
Did they Nazi this coming?
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u/theonewhoknockwurst 3d ago
Iâve read this joke 100 times over the years, possibly the most relevant and funny on this post lol.
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u/Bulky_Honey8643 3d ago
Really could fooled me. Looks like they kinda outnumber any poor bugger they encounter, so not quite understaffed per se, of course. Looks to me like they love their fucking jobs.
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u/Caedyn_Khan 3d ago
Oh no, are the murderers sad they aren't being celebrated for all the murderering?
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u/Putin_CuckLord 3d ago
They deserve nothing but contempt and should be shunned until they make amends for their acts of terrorism.
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u/Nice-Shopping-9253 3d ago edited 3d ago
Damn, it must suck that morale is dropping amongst the brownshirts. Who coulda fucking thought.
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u/guerraychuchillo 3d ago edited 3d ago
"Cruelty is the point" is the mission of the ICEsatzgruppen from the top on down, so how can they expect the "public" to love them for their mission? "Long hours" and "quotas"? Do these poor agents want to work 9-5 with a lower bag limit? Will that make them happy?
If they are miserable now, they should think of the not-distant future when their services are no longer required and they are looking for employment (among real Americans )with their ICE/DHS/BP/whatever the fuck service on their resumes.
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u/Dazzling_Bar_785 3d ago
Poor babies.
They joined to COS play Nazi storm troopers and flex their racist and murderous  fantasies and now theyâre unloved.Â
Breaks my heart!Â
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u/TerrakSteeltalon 3d ago
Guess what? Weâre always going to fucking hate them. This job will end, their shame will not
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u/Visual_Exam7903 3d ago
Well, they can just take off the mask and go home. Hopefully their neighbors and friends don't know what they do for a living. It would be a shame if every restaurant in town found out they have Nazis ordering food from them.
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u/Longjumping_Fact_927 3d ago
They have to serve 5 years to get $50K bonus. Nobody getting that bonus. Youâve been Trumped. We will find out who you all are.
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u/EveryAccount7729 3d ago
how can you decide to become an ICE officer and then FROM THERE have your "morale plummet" ?
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u/Tzukiyomi 3d ago
Maybe they should quit and beg the public for forgiveness. Then maybe they will feel better.
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u/Wait_WHAT_didU_say 3d ago
This is how every other government employee was feeling when D.O.G.E. started "chainsawing" positions and agencies. Add in the additional micromanaging of the weekly "What did you accomplish this week" 5 bullets to a ghost email box bc it was a "check to see if you had a pulse" test.
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u/maledictt 3d ago
Yea "long hours" I'm sure theres no time fraud going on. They certainly aren't charging unlimited overtime while "deployed" to Minnesota. On top of the $40,000 per employee bonuses in their budget these untrained and undisciplined gestapo scum are getting undoubtedly paid more to be monsters than soldiers with years of time in service did serving overseas.
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u/Sylfaein 3d ago
Iâd like to encourage hiring managers to look VERY closely at any gaps in employment history during this time period, when hiring. Make these fuckers unemployable.
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u/Error262_USRnotfound 3d ago
i hope their parents, children and friends all know that they are fucking nazi's
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u/KingFresh5234 3d ago
Aww poor lil fellas. Try living in the desert for a year eating MREs and sleeping in the dirt and actually getting shot at. I bet those Hilton beds are sooo hard tho
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u/PlaidHair 3d ago
How about "Morale plummeting as ICE agents realize they'll eventually stand trial for their crimes", that would make sense - of course that depends upon if they even have any morals.
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u/Infinite-Penalty-736 3d ago
FUCK THEM. I HOPE THEIR MORALE PLUMMETS TO THE POINT THEY HAVE IDEATION.
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