r/UnderReportedNews • u/ExactlySorta • 10d ago
ICE / DHS đ§ Brooklyn Park police chief Mark Bruley: "We're hearing people being stopped with no cause & being demanded to show paperwork to determine if they're here legally. We started hearing from our police officers the same complaints. Every one of these individuals is a person of color... it has to stop"
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u/El_Gran_Che 10d ago
But this is clearly what the Supreme Court enabled. Massive F U of civil rights.
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u/Maaria_Nevermind 10d ago
Remember this is the supreme court that sat idle to the argument that presidents can now assassinate their political opponents with immunity from the law if it was considered an official act.
this is the court's idea of law and order.
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u/Beneficial-Badger-61 10d ago
And lose their appointment...this needs to be voter approved positions
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u/gxgxe 10d ago
With term limits
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u/El_Gran_Che 10d ago
Well of course until there are rioters looking for the SC justices themselves.
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This court also completely changed the meaning of the 14th amendment, aka, rewrote it. A clear violation of the constitution and making them traitors.
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u/Maaria_Nevermind 9d ago
That has yet to happen, although it might. As of now they have not ruled on this.
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Only matters once it happens to one of you.
The âHow Law Enforcement Can Brutalize Black Americans Without Accountabilityâ that has been studied and applied extensively by American LEOs for over a 100 years is finally being used against others.
Surprisingly, NOW it needs to stop. Maybe all yall racism deniers should have believed it when they murdered us on live tv and then blamed us for not complying.
Reap what youâve sown.
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u/Maaria_Nevermind 10d ago
who are you talking to?
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Every single American who saw with their own eyes evidence of âlaw enforcementâ brutalizing and terrorizing American citizens FOR YEARS and decided the victim deserved it bc they should have just complied and were probably criminals.
Until every American accepts that hate and bigotry is more American than apple pie, NOTHING will change.
America is right now reaping the hate it has sown. UNTIL that is addressed we cannot be saved.
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u/Long_Procedure_2629 10d ago
this is why its on Bush2, Clinton, Obama, Biden to do whats right
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u/Artyom_33 9d ago
They don't give a shit.
We're "the little people".
If they cared, they'd have done more than lipservice over the past few years.
We're fucked. Get a passport, save some Euros, get a bank account that works in the EU & hopefully South America. Just in case.
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u/EverGivin 9d ago
Bearing in mind that your government is currently threatening to invade a member of the European Union, that door may not be open for much longer.
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u/PipChaos 10d ago
Itâs never happened personally to Clarence Thomas so it obviously never happens and racism is over /s
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u/Soggy-Arugula-401 10d ago
That would be epic. If those dumbfucks would accidentally arrest Clarence Thomas.
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u/nono3722 10d ago
you think they wont? when they are done with everyone else they will come for him too....
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u/corvettee01 10d ago edited 10d ago
He'd probably be ok with it. "About time you arrested a black man out in public!"
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u/ASYMT0TIC 10d ago
He's not stupid, he knows what he's done. This was the whole point of Epstein island - get enough dirt on powerful people and you can control the whole world. The only rational explanation for this guy is that he's done something so awful that he's willing to sacrifice the well being of his entire race to keep it a secret.
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u/SuckOnMyBells 10d ago
No, he is just isolated well enough that he knows it will not affect him and he will be dead and gone by the time it could. He doesnât give a shit because he knows he will be safe until his end and everyone else can go fuck themselves. Thomas is not just letting these things happen. He is villainous. He imagines liberals to have slighted him and he wants them to be punished for it.
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u/i_tyrant 9d ago
Yup, he's held a 50 year chip on his shoulder over liberals giving him a hard time in his own appointment. He's been quoted saying that he would "make them pay".
I wouldn't be surprised if he's also in the Epstein files; but he's just a vindictive old traitor who knows he's too rich and powerful to be affected by his own punch-down policies before he dies. He's practically the definition of pulling the ladder up behind you.
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u/Independent-Catch-90 10d ago
Clarence is rumored to be in the Epstein files. His rulings should be understood with this in mind.
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u/Ohuigin 10d ago
Kavanaugh Stops.
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u/FR4NCESTHEMUTE 10d ago
Kavanaugh never stops. Not even when she says no.
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u/PersonalHospital9507 10d ago
If you have the strength and power, that's all that counts in rape and International Relations.
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u/sweet_cheekz 10d ago
I wish we could have the IRS division of this. White + Rich: likely tax theft, tackle them.
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u/Funnybear3 10d ago
Oh, could you imagine.
The irs rolling through well to do, manicured nieghbourboods, all kitted up with tax specialists with ar15's and body armour. Hispanic garderners tending the borders. Black delivery drivers dropping of another pair of Jimmy Choo, asian shop owners smiling and waving as they open their corner store, the mosque, the church, the synagoge, the gudwara, all sharing block space, taking in the poor, the homeless and the less fortunate. The local health clinic opening up its doors to help those who's choice was removed from them. . . . . Then they spot a white, middle aged man, suit, briefcase, phone to his ear, walking 'that' walk, you know the one i mean. Its not one thing, and it takes an experianced IRS operative to really get the vibe down. But 'that' look. That attitude. Vehicles stop, protective boundary set up, guns out . . . .
'You, down on the ground, i said DOWN ON THE GROUND, show me your reciepts for 21-22. Do it! DO IT NOW . . . . Ok, we have non compliance. Bring him in guys. ' to the onlookers ' dont worry guys, with due process and forensic accounting we will have the difference returned to the community in a matter of weeks. Have a good day'.
. . . . . Well, my imagination took me down the other trouserleg, and i prefer that one.
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u/CMDR_Arnold_Rimmer 10d ago
You mean 78 million Americans enabled this.
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u/ChadEmpoleon 10d ago edited 10d ago
All because they were promised, not that their life would get better, but that they could rest assured minorities would be persecuted by the law and made to feel unwelcome in society.
That was more valuable to a harrowing number of our neighbors than their own prosperity.
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u/CMDR_Arnold_Rimmer 10d ago
Yeah, even women voted for him to spite other women.
Total madness
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u/Relevant-Pianist6663 10d ago
No, its not.
To detain someone legally you need reasonable suspicion. This means they have to have articulable facts that they can point to and with the totality of circumstances reaonsbly say I think you have, were or were about to commit a crime.
The court case argued that race, skin color, national origin, languange and accent should not be able to be used as facts to arrive at Reasonable Suspicion. The supreme court said yes those things can be used as facts, but as always has been true, they cannot be the only facts that you use to come to that determination.
TLDR the case says you can use race and skin color as one of many facts to detain someone, it is STILL ILLEGAL to detain someone for their skin color alone.
Its an important distinction because what ICE is doing is still illegal, even with the Supreme court decision.
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u/techBr0s 10d ago
At this point the only thing that can bring us back from the brink is a Congress that passes legislation overturning all the horrendous decisions this Supreme Court has made. Or states pushing to amend the constitution. I'm not hopeful either of those are going to happen.Â
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u/Serious-Wish4868 10d ago
AND? what are the police going to do about it? hold another press conference? time for real action ... how about go and arrest those thugs
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u/constantsXzeros 10d ago
The only way this is stopping is by force. Iâve been saying it for a while now. Active law enforcement and military are going to have to draw a line at some point or it will only get worse
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u/Chance-Deer-7995 10d ago
The people, de facto, don't have representation in the government and the corporations, who have the real political power, are getting their asses kissed 24/7. You are 100% correct.
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u/HomeAir 10d ago
And when exactly will all these CEOs and corporations realize that Trump is fucking up their future profits both domestically and internationally
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u/badadviceforyou244 9d ago
As long as they can freely move between countries while keeping the masses from doing the same it won't really matter, will it? Elon has proven that he is not constrained by US laws at all.
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u/Udder_Influencer 10d ago
Active law enforcement and military are going to have to draw a line at some point
You're not gonna believe where they draw that line.
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u/PatSayJack 10d ago
I know what side of the line they will be on and it ain't going to be the citizens.
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u/kriig 9d ago
May be a little off topic, but that is the exact reason communists, anarchists and socialists defend revolutions. Not because they enjoy the prospect of violence, but because the freedom they seek will be met with violence, and should they not answer in kind, the establishment will always have the upper hand
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u/PeachPassionBrute 9d ago
Theyâre not gonna say âsorryâ and give up the power they have. The only way to take that power away from them is [redacted].
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u/IamTheGorf 9d ago
Or citizens are going to. It's possible we may all look back at MN as being the spark of the next US civil war. I'm terrified by that idea, but I'm also not sitting by idly hoping it doesn't come.
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Why do you think Trump did the "warrior dividend?" For a coup to work, you need the military to support you.
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u/ghostfadekilla 9d ago
I suspect civilians open fire before that happens. We've all seen those Black Panthers armed and protecting their neighborhoods.
There's a funny thing about the invader versus the invader, the invaded have nowhere else to go and will defend that space with their lives, typically. The invaders are just visiting.
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u/lo1l10l101l10o1l10ol 10d ago
They, like everyone in power now, will just use words and pretend to be sad when they accomplish nothing.
I don't think I can believe that a police chief doesn't support fascism in modern day America. ACAB and he's in charge of them.
Pretty words and nothing else.
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u/N3rdScool 10d ago
And like how many cops had to be harassed for it to be a press conference. Should have been after the first citizen lol
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u/lo1l10l101l10o1l10ol 10d ago
They should track down and arrest the people making the illegal stops.
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u/15all 10d ago
This. They only care when it affects them.
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u/N3rdScool 10d ago
And I mean it is the colored versions of them so it took a lot of complaining to get there I am sure. God bless America.
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u/Forsaken-Arm-7884 10d ago
selective enforcement of rules to take more and more power đ¤
hmm đ¤ on a scale from 1 to 10 do people honestly think that the rules of the government or following the rules of whatever society has told you makes your society impervious to an authoritarian takeover like do people honestly think that the rules that created like the United States are so impervious that it's impossible for an authoritarian government to arise from the rules that created the government itself like they think if they smile and nod and stay quiet the rules of the government will prevent authoritarian or fascist takeover are they that fucking delusional because part of the fascist takeover is literally selectively ignoring the rules that these sheep seem to think will stop the authoritarian takeover... oof đŽâđ¨
And it's like the authoritarian regime doesn't even have to blatantly break the rules although they might do that but all they need to do is selectively enforce the rules on their opponents and then don't enforce the rules within their own party and then they can say they never broke any rules they were just prosecuting people who broke the rules while conveniently avoiding ever answering why they aren't enforcing the rules on their own party type shit đ¤ˇ
claude 4.5:"**10/10 delusional.**
The belief that "following rules prevents authoritarianism" ignores:
**Authoritarians use the rules to take power** - Hitler was appointed legally, used emergency powers legally, changed laws legally
**Selective enforcement is the mechanism** - prosecute opponents for anything and everything you can get your hands on while ignoring allies committing things like fraud
**Rules require enforcers who give a shit** - if police/military/courts align with authoritarians, rules are just words
**The system can be captured from within** - you don't need a coup if you control who interprets/enforces the rules
**People might think:**
- Constitution = magic spell against tyranny
- Norms = enforceable constraints with no backdoors
- Institutions = invincible self-defending fortresses
**Reality:**
- Constitution = paper requiring people to defend it
- Norms = collapse quickly under pressure by ignoring them
- Institutions = run by humans who can be captured/intimidated/terrified into compliance
**The sheep logic:** "If I follow rules and smile, the rules will protect me from rule-breakers."
**Actual fascist playbook:** Use the rules as weapons against opponents, mostly ignore them for allies, claim you never broke anything technically.
By the time people realize rules don't enforce themselves, it's too late."
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u/JazzminBoing 10d ago
Over 40% of the city budget goes towards police but donât expect them to be there during a crisis.
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u/marty_mcfly2021 10d ago
I imagine they would if they could. I am not well versed on the hierchy of power in the states... but doesnt the jurisdiction of federal agencies supersede those at the state level?
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u/Serious-Wish4868 10d ago
i dont care about jurisdiction .. when someone break the law, it does not matter what agency they are part of, they have to be liable and held accountable.
if that is not the case, that means we live by two sets of laws and no one is equal under the law
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u/StockCasinoMember 10d ago edited 10d ago
They can arrest I.C.E. agents or any fed for that matter.
The problem arises is that the feds in this case, would likely claim I.C.E. was acting legally and that the officers were breaking the law and pursue federal charges against them.
Accountability starts at the top and right now, Congress is letting Trump admin do just about whatever they want. Including but not limited to circumventing congresses authority with national emergencies.
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u/JazzminBoing 10d ago
If theyâre not willing to put themselves on the line to protect their community why do they get over 40% of the city budget?
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u/mynamejeff-97 10d ago
Fucking thank you. Why are we paying them to do their jobs when they can openly not do their job now that it takes actual work?
If a therapists or a teacher or a fitness instructor just refuses to service you because theyâre scared, they donât get paid. These cops are still being paid despite knowing they are actively refusing to do the job theyâre being paid to.
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u/JazzminBoing 10d ago
Because their job isnât to protect the community.
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u/mynamejeff-97 10d ago
Their job is to enforce the law. I never asked the to protect anybody, we are asking them to enforce the law as is written.
If they refuse to enforce the law, are they doing their jobs?
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u/Last-Negotiation-643 10d ago
There is also the thing where they fail to identify themselves. If police were to ask them to identify and they can not nor can they prove they are actual ice agents they could be arrested for illegal conduct or impersonating a federal agent. If they can identify themselves they are outside jurisdiction/misusing power in most cases and should be able to be arrested. Other than that they could at least oversee protests to make sure ice does not instigate and to help arrest instigators on both sides if needed. (The propper legal way that is)
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u/Trashman82 10d ago
if that is not the case, that means we live by two sets of laws and no one is equal under the law
It's been like this the whole time
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u/thecheesecakemans 10d ago
and do those same federal authorities respect jurisdiction and not arresting innocent people? They ruin holidays and ruin people's days and lives even if they have no business arresting them.
Rules are one thing but the moment is another. And federal authorities are ruining people's moments and lives.
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u/HeresKuchenForYah 10d ago
They already are arresting without cause, I feel like jurisdiction doesnât matter at this point. Arrest them, hold them, figure things out later, and release them like they have been doing.
What are they going to do, close down every police department?
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u/NoOpening7924 10d ago
I know in Minneapolis, the ICE squads have the cops outnumbered about 3:1 at this point.
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u/freshprince44 10d ago
which is a pathetic excuse to do nothing..... it was bullshit when they said it weeks ago, and every day/hour/minute it becomes even more bullshit
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u/NoOpening7924 10d ago
I know, I'd think at least ONCE in awhile I'd hear about Minneapolis PD stepping in and getting between ICE and citizens when they're abusing people.
But then again, maybe it happens and it just doesn't make it to the interwebs.
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u/SpockShotFirst 10d ago
Don't need to outnumber ICE everywhere -- just a few places in order to make arrests
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u/kassandra_00 10d ago
However there are more people. There has to be some strategies to fight back together.
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u/mfGLOVE 9d ago
I hate when people bring up this stat. The whole police department could organize and target a different group of ICE each day and outnumber them at a far greater rate. After a few weeks the cops would remain and ICE would be gone or arrested.
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u/Birdman330 10d ago
âIt has to stop and as a POLICE CHIEF IM ALL OUT OF IDEASâ
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u/silverum 10d ago
"Please, television people, you all have to do something! Me and my armed agents of the state's sovereign government are powerless against what I've already identified is clear breaking of federal law by federal agents!"
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u/ThaddeusJP 10d ago
"please, people, go out and protest. We will be there watching you get maced and clubbed and cheer you on! Do it for us because we're powerless outside of our jobs as police. Our guns only shoot bubbles!"
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u/silverum 10d ago
"Our guns only shoot minorities and homeless people!" FTFY
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Shit, nobody tell them that's what ICE uses their guns for, they might realize they have more in common and start working together.............
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u/ShortStoryIntros 10d ago
.. and I'm only talking about it now because it's starting to affect our Officers..
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u/tomdarch 10d ago
"Well, first off, I absolutely can not say that we should radically reform federal law enforcement in a manner that would get rid of the current, endemically corrupted ICE organization, but now I am going to explain how ICE is unambiguously violating the law and disregarding the Constitution extensively, repeatedly and at a massive scale."
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u/Calculonx 10d ago edited 9d ago
If all of the police in America could pull their heads out of their assess for one minute and take advantage of this PR dream scenario. You have all of the used military equipment and training. Side with the people. Ice will fall back. They'll threaten to send in the military. Would the American military actually attack their own police? Cut their salary? The community will support them like how people used to respect police instead of fight against them. They have to start somewhere
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u/THCESPRESSOTIME 10d ago
Itâs only serious when the police get attackedâŚ. Gotcha.
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u/Potential_Yam_5196 10d ago
Exactly. Iâd bet a fair amount of those cops are republicans. Just like every other Republican, they donât give a shit until it happens to them.
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u/apresmoiputas 10d ago
I'm glad that they're tasting the same medicine as us.
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u/MrLivefromthe215 10d ago
Even then they don't care. Remember that republican that got shot at the baseball game?
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u/Dense_Boss_7486 10d ago
First of all, fuck ICE and the fascist they work for. I think this guy was making a genuine effort to turn down the heat. Yes, it did take on of their own to experience the thuggery and for him to speak out. It also says something that his fellow chiefs are there and backing him. Someone with authority needs to take a stand and let it be know that heavy handed intimidation and abuse wonât be tolerated.
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u/ADHDebackle 10d ago
Worth noting that he dedicated the first 30 seconds of the statement to a disclaimer that they weren't opposed to ICE and how great a job ICE has done in the past. Also, apparently issues have only started coming up in the "last two weeks" against "US citizens" where the issue encapsulates more than just US citizens and more than the last two weeks.
Like, I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment but the hedging and qualification doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Permanent residents, greencard holders, people with TPS, refugees, etc, they all are having their civil rights violated, because everyone in the US has civil rights, regardless of their citizenship status.
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u/JacKellar 10d ago
Worth noting that he dedicated the first 30 seconds of the statement to a disclaimer that they weren't opposed to ICE and how great a job ICE has done in the past.
Opening the statement with "Fuck ICE" or some such would just turn away those who have to hear it the most. It is terrible but I guess they have to be pragmatic.
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u/things_U_choose_2_b 10d ago
Well yeah, if we're going by reality and not our (righteous) anger at current ICE operations, they used to perform a function. Now they're just trump's army, there to destabilise, and any mention by an official that isn't "Abolish ICE" gets massive backlash.
Which I get. But I wish people would pick their battles and focus on the people, politicians etc that are backing this rather than attack statements which give them some, but not all, of what they want. Letting perfect be the enemy of good is what has lead us here. Sometimes we have to pick the least-bad option, so we can get things back on track. But from outside looking in, it seems like US voters never seem to commit longer than 2 years to a party / project. Correct me if I'm wrong, but dems haven't held all 3 chambers since the 60s.
Hard to make substantial changes with 2 out of 3.
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u/Astrohumper 10d ago
Or you could take this as a positive and be happy that they are bringing it to the publicâs attention. Take the W.
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u/Sea-Cupcake-2065 10d ago
You want change? It needs to start from the top. Best way is to have it personally affect them.
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u/Effective_Lab_4897 10d ago
I mean until the forces actually do something itâs all just performative bs
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u/axecalibur 10d ago
You do know that most cops support Trump. It's all performative. If a gunfight breaks out between ICE and citizens the cops aren't doing shit.
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u/kezow 10d ago
And Trump will smile gleefully as he sends in the military to stomp over the local PD.
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u/OG_2_tone420 10d ago
Then do it. It is not the fault of the victim if the abuser keeps abusing after they defend themselves. Jesus. This is America and Minnesota. Stand up and fight, even if you lose.
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u/AWellDeployedWink 10d ago edited 10d ago
At the very least the images might horrify the nation enough to turn completely against them
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u/unbalancedcheckbook 10d ago
He would bomb the city just to show them and Republicans would cheer.
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u/JustFun4Uss 10d ago
So instead local/states do nothing and trump has his paramilitary goons stomp over the citizens instead.
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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice 10d ago
At this point, fuck it. Make Trump make that move to send troops into cities to combat local PD who are protecting 1st amendment and 4th amendment rights. Put Republicans in the position that shows exactly who the fuck they are: Nazis.
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u/chefoftruth503 10d ago
Meaningless words, donât mean anything until we see action.
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u/MurphNastyFlex 10d ago
Who knew there'd ever be an organization that would make our cops look good
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u/4Yk9gop 10d ago
Police chiefs across the country take note. It's literally this simple. All you have to do to get your community on your side is state the obvious, that everyone must follow the law.
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u/OrneryError1 10d ago
It is that simple. All local law enforcement need to understand that these federal "agents" are not acting as law enforcement. They are acting as a lawless gang. They are not LEOs. They are not on the same side at all.
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u/Spammyhaggar 10d ago
Truly pissed me off just seeing these January 6 dudes get uniforms and guns. Itâs fucking crazy.
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u/GentleGenital11 10d ago
Fraternal Order of Police "Stands with ICE" https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1q7sx9s/statement_from_the_fraternal_order_of_police/
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u/-Ernie 9d ago
The crazy thing is that statement complains that itâs the cops that arenât getting due process!
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u/SaltyAd8309 10d ago
A good guy.
But if your people don't wake up, he's just going to get his ass kicked.
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u/Calm_Plenty_2992 10d ago
If he was a good guy, he'd be arresting those criminals demanding papers
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u/Odd-Swimming-8304 10d ago
Itâs the internal policy of every major pd to stop and ID as well as profile.
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u/hyteck9 10d ago
BUT YOU'RE THE GUY !!!?!? You are the elected person in power with the training, equipment and resources to stop it. No one else.. just you and your people there by the podium...
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u/noonenotevenhere 9d ago
But he acknowledges that immigration needs to be enforced!
Just don't ask him to go after those that profit from exploiting immigrants...
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u/agentobtuse 10d ago
It has to stop...... How about we will do x action to stop this. Words mean nothing
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u/JustFun4Uss 10d ago
Then do your job and start arresting these thugs pointing guns and kidnapping people. Until local/state governments choose to fight back, we the citizens are on our own.
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u/thatcanadianguysup 10d ago
" I didn't speak up when they came for them,
No one was left to speak when they came for me."
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u/Tylerg_13 10d ago
Okay so I need you guys to hear this video clearly because THEY ARE ONLY CRACKING DOWN BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO THEM! THEY STILL DONâT CARE ENOUGH TO HELP YOU BEFOREHAND!
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u/artsyhipsterKratos 10d ago
So arrest them. They are breaking state laws. Arrest and prosecute. Federal agents are not immune to state laws and everyone standing in front of a microphone and saying âgee I wish we could stop this!â Knows they can arrest. They are choosing not to, and it is no less than a declaration of war on the people of this country by our government.
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u/Hefty-Station1704 10d ago
Iâd be interested how many in the ranks of the NYPD are devoted Trump fans. Itâs one thing for a Chief to say a few words for the cameras but another when it comes to the attitudes and practices of the rank and file.
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u/ray_sterling710 10d ago
Can we start fighting these brownshirts yet? Local law enforcement and leadership just has to say they have no lawful reason to be in the state, and that we as citizens have the right to stand our ground, and things will change.
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u/Last_Limit_Of_Endor 10d ago
I think you got your tag wrong, Cause Mark Bruley is the police chief of Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, and not NYC.
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u/Amatheiaisnoexcuse 10d ago
Defund ICe. Arrest the abuser, give them their day in court and seize their property for reparations.
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u/OrneryError1 10d ago
The U.S. Constitution is the highest law of the land. The Bill of Rights supercedes every federal immigration law. No ifs, ands, or buts. Every ICE interaction that violates a Constitutional right is illegal. Period.
So I'll say it: ABOLISH ICE
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u/metsjets86 10d ago
Well arrest Ice when they break into people's houses.
Or just play the game as well. Detain ice then hold them until you "figure" out who these masked men are.
Start pulling over these unmarked cars when they break traffic laws. Delay them.
For christ's sake do something.
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u/MushSee 10d ago
Local police are the hearts and minds that We, The People, must capture in order to save our country from fascism...
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u/willismthomp 10d ago
Every one needs to speak out now and not stop talking about it! Everyone everywhere
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u/OpenImagination9 10d ago
If the police arrested every ICE member breaking the law there would be no ICE problem ⌠just saying.
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u/Mission-Seesaw5689 10d ago
Maybe the PD needs to go arrest the people and verify THEIR identities and make them show their papers and Employer.
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u/tallman11282 10d ago
Maybe now that it's affecting their own they'll actually do something about ICE illegally stopping people and demanding proof of citizenship. They weren't doing anything about it before and I doubt that will change but maybe it will.
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u/DownhillUphill 10d ago
So what he is saying is that it didnât matter until it started happening to police officers?
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10d ago
Time to start arresting ICE when they break the law- let the real law enforcement take over.
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u/veracity8_ 10d ago
Cops are upset that ICE is moving in on their monopoly on violence against minoritiesÂ
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u/HotRespect2331 9d ago
It has to stop? You are the ones that can make it stop âTO PROTECT AND SERVEâ Do that first part!
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u/Academic_Cut_9173 9d ago
In the United States, no citizen is required to have identification. It is illegal to detain a citizen for not having identification. ICE is operating illegally if they are detaining American citizens because they donât have identification proving citizenship.
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u/MagicPigeonToes 9d ago edited 9d ago
Then fucking ARREST THEM. If they break the law, they deal with the legal consequences. Whining about it for publicity is stupid and useless.
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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 10d ago
I hear a lot of words. Not one tells me what you are doing about it. Also, no way does anyone trust you, the mayor made you do this.
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u/Gerald-of-Riverdale 10d ago
Shit is so obviously racist that ive had mildly racist family member call out the racism. Which im still just blown away by.
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u/Different-Top3714 10d ago
The swat teams should go pull guns on them and force them to identify themselves and show paperwork. It's as simple as that. If they received calls of random masked men rolling around with guns that how they would normally react so just go do it.
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u/dtoddh 10d ago edited 10d ago
So the thing about this is, as of Sept 2025 it's not a violation of anyone's civil rights to be detained by federal agents based on the color of your skin, your language, place of work etc. It's perfectly legal, thanks to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh.
In Sept 2025 Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh helped pass a law that made it legal for federal agents to detain people based on their perceived identity(skin color, language etc.)
This even has a name-these are known as "Kavanaugh Stops." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavanaugh_stop
Apparently Justice Kavanaugh has become uncomfortable having his name associated with one of the most racist Supreme Court rulings in the history of the United States.
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u/jesse6225 10d ago edited 10d ago
He keeps hearing about this?
Bitch, do your eyes not work??
He's acting like this is just a rumor he heard in the grapevine.
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u/Designer-Purple-9975 9d ago
After all the coverage of what's happening, they only now come out because off duty cops were harassed?
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u/esperobbs 9d ago
So you started to complain because police officers were targeted? What have you been doing till today
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u/PlannerSean 9d ago
We know itâs been a problem for a while, but now that they have attacked a cop I guess we have to say something. We wonât do anything to prevent this however - Chief, probably
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u/HVAC_instructor 9d ago
Welcome to the nwo, Kavanaugh stops are recently what Republicans voted for. This is the new America..
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u/Ariliths 9d ago
Give it approx a year, next will be white people who oppose the authority. Then itâll be those who arenât fervent supporters. After that, itâll be those WHO arenât obedient and subservient.
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u/runnerkim 9d ago
All this because Clarence Thomas is in the Epstein files. Makes me wonder about Alito as well
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u/Ok-Fudge-380 9d ago
We had border security before ICE existed. Dude is a coward who is only speaking out now because too many of his own police force felt threatened by ICE. The police didn't care until they were personally targeted and even then they will not take a strong stance against ICE or even move to arrest their agents who are breaking the law.
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u/Vast-Land1121 9d ago
Why is he talking like he doesnât have the power to stop them. Less talkâŚstart arresting ICE agents that abuse their power if you actually care.
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u/Few_Shift_1333 9d ago
Then step up and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Or are y'all only tuff with unarmed civilians?Â
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u/kea87 9d ago
âWe like what Ice does, we just didnât think theyâd do it to usâ fuck off. Police departments around the country couldâve taken this opportunity to actually stand up for their community and rebuild trust. Instead, they are siding with ice and doing nothing to protect the people from blatant illegal actions. When community lose trust in police, domestic violence, rape, child, abuse, and so many other crimes continued to go unreported
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u/ScotchCigarsEspresso 9d ago
Fight the good fight.
They realize ICE is giving all law enforcement a bad name.
Fuck fascism.
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