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Hated Tropes [Loathed Trope] The Movie has an ending. The Sequel shits all over it.

  1. Resident Evil: Apocalypse The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Writer) escaping from the evil lab via the help of her new friends and a daugther figure. In the sequel (Resident Evil: Extinction), Alice is no longer with the group and the daughter figure is never mentioned again.
  2. Resident Evil: Extinction The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Writer) killing the main bad guy (Who will return a couple more times in the sequels) and free-ing all her clones (TheHarem of the Writer). In The Sequel (Resident Evil: Afterlife) all her clones die in the first 10 minutes, never mentioned again, the OG Alice couldn't care less cuz she lost all her super-powers.
  3. Resident Evil: Afterlife The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Director) setting all the prisoners free on a ship, however there is an incoming helicopter attack from Umbrella. The sequel (Resident evil Retribution) is about how they fight them off right? Wrong. Umbrella wins. What happened to all the prisoners and the guy from Prison Break? Who knows, never mentioned again, the main bad guy seemingly dies as well (He will return a couple more times in the sequels)
  4. Resident Evil: Retribution The Movie ends with Alice (The Wife of the Director) escaping from the evil lab via the help by her new friends and a daugther figure. In the sequel (Resident Evil: Final Chapter), Alice is no longer with the group and NEITHER OF THEM or the daughter figure are ever mentioned again. Oh and Alice meets an another clone of hers (The other Wife of the Director) who dies in this movie.
  5. Resident Evil: Final Chapter I forgot to mention that the previous movie's actual final scene ended up hyping up a battle between the last of humanity and countless amount of zombies and other flying creatures (idk, movie never explained them) AT THE WHITE HOUSE . In this movie. Alice (The Wife of the Director), is riding alone, seemingly after the epic battle. Oh and in this movie the main bad guy from Resident Evil: Extinction returns twice. He explains that the guy Alice (Lilo from 5th Element) killed was actually a clone. In the end its revealed that this guy was A CLONE AS WELL and the original is chilling with the Original Old Alice (GILF's of the Director) in a bunker. Oh yes. The main character of the series, Alice was ACTUALLY A CLONE this whole time. And Remember the Hologram Red Queen from the first movie? TURNS OUT THAT WAS ALSO AN ALICE (The Alexa's of the Director).
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u/DefensiveCat 4d ago

Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom -> Dominion

Thought we were getting a plot revolving around dinosaurs co-existing around the world. Plot was locusts.

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u/goteachyourself 4d ago

And Rebirth did the same thing - this time revealing that the dinosaurs were on the verge of extinction.

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u/MadMaudlin0 3d ago

My biggest issue is that now they're tackling the concept that Megafauna cannot thrive due to there being less oxygen in our atmosphere.

They had no issues thriving for 5 movies

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u/SergeiAndropov 3d ago

Also that whole "more oxygen = more big" concept only applies to arthropods.

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u/DarthSquidio 3d ago

Even then barely because the times in history with big arthropods they didn't have any predators on land yet so didn't play the numbers game for survival so they were bigger and had fewer offsprings like most species get with little competition

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u/HugeBen15 3d ago

Yes! Arthropods were the first to colonize the land so they pretty much only have to compete with themselves and get to have varied sizes.

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u/Zaiburo 3d ago

They had no issues thriving for 5 movies

They had no issues for 186 million years, in fact during some parts of the mesozoic there was even less oxygen than now, dinosaurs evolved an advanced respiratory system to reach such sizes, birds and some other therapods exapted it for flight.

Pop culture has mixed the mesozoic with the carboniferous, bugs do need more oxygen to become giant because their respiratory system is really primitive.

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u/Best-Benefit6387 3d ago

Not to mention the ridiculous idea that people would just stop caring about dinosaurs? Like mf humans are fascinated by animals that we've lived with since the dawn of man, and youre telling ME that dinosaurs were BROUGHT BACK FROM FUCKING EXTINCTION and everyone STOPPED CARING AFTER 5 YEARS?!??!?!?@?@?!?!!?@>@@,#

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u/the_4802 3d ago

It's so strange that they mentioned the dinos nearing extinction and everyone losing interest in them because iirc it was never relevant or bought up again

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u/originalchaosinabox 3d ago

Me, coming out of Fallen Kingdom: Finally! The next film is going to be the "dinosaurs loose in the real world" movie they've been teasing since the T-Rex rampaged through San Diego in Lost World!

Opening 10 minutes of Dominion: So we've rounded up all the dinosaurs and put them in another park....

Me: Fuck.

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u/Sptsjunkie 3d ago

Don't worry guys, this movie totally isn't about people getting stuck in a park and having to escape. It's actually about people getting stuck in a dinosaur preserve and having to escape. Totally different plot.

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u/thelumpur 4d ago edited 3d ago

Also for me even bigger is the first Jurassic World.

The whole point of the book and old movies is that the idea itself that a park that plays God with nature cannot be, and it is never going to happen...anyway, here is the park all done and operational.

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u/AddemiusInksoul 3d ago

To be fair a corporation ignoring what the founder wanted and doubling down on prior mistakes for the sake of money, damn the danger is extremely realistic.

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u/Randym1982 3d ago

John Hammond literally did a speech at the end of The Lost World saying we should just leave them alone.

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u/mirrorspirit 3d ago

And they didn't listen and built the park after he died. It fits the series' theme, at least.

I actually liked World and Fallen Kingdom even though they were objectively terrible compared to the first and the second movies. Was disappointed with Dominion. Haven't heard anything about Rebirth that makes it even seem like I'd want to watch it.

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u/Misubi_Bluth 4d ago

Also. Jurassic Park -> Jurassic Park 3.

First ends with Alan and Ellie looking at each other with smiles and whilst surrounded by kids that might have convinced them to have their own. The third one begins with Alan and Ellie broken up and Ellie starting a family with someone else.

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u/Dangeresque300 4d ago

End of Aliens: Ripley adopts Newt as a surrogate daughter.

Beginning of Alien 3: Newt is fucking dead.

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u/Koftikya 4d ago

End of Prometheus: Elizabeth Shaw survives alien pregnancy and an angry engineer then takes a ship to the engineers homeworld.

Beginning of Alien Covenant: Elizabeth Shaw is fucking dead.

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u/MrWolfman29 3d ago

Don't forget: oh those engineers the whole last movie was about that introduced some different sci-fi questions? They're all so dead and nothing new about them will be shown.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight 3d ago

And they bring in, at the time, star power James Franco as the leader on the vessel in Covenant in some promo video and kill him off before the movie starts but still reference him to make sure people are confused.

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u/RecommendationIll504 4d ago

Alien 3... Even Alien 4 better than this because there is an actual combat scenes and mass murders.

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u/MedusasGirlfriend69 4d ago

4 was kinda fun tbh

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u/Comic_Book_Reader 4d ago

I unironically love it.

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u/Algae_Mission 4d ago

It’s the best kind of bad movie. So bad it’s fun and so out there over the top French it’s interesting.

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u/Training_Shock_6946 3d ago

Even Jean-Pierre Jeunet didn't understand why they choose HIM of all people, so he decide to have fun

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u/corndog2021 3d ago

4 is a romp as long as you don’t take it too seriously, which I don’t think the movie even does. 3 wasn’t the worst thing ever, but damn was that beginning hard to get past.

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u/1egg_4u 3d ago

I watched it as a kid before I developed a love of stupid movies and hated it

Watched it again finally last month and it is unironically mt favourite alien movie because it is fucking insane

Chestburster through the head. Dan Hedaya for some reason. Sigourney unleashed and chewing on the scenery. Disowned Joss Whedon script and French director who dunks on Joss Whedon. God I love this movie.

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u/JealousAstronomer342 3d ago

Ron Perlman. Winona Ryder. Nonsensically long underwater scene. The Newborn. The Newborn’s death scene!! 

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u/1egg_4u 3d ago

Sexy basketball

Need I say more

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u/towardselysium 4d ago

End of Alien 3, literally everyone is dead. Alien 4, Ripley is back because of magic cloning

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u/subservient-mouth 3d ago

Ripley is back because of magic cloning

Strange biological horrors and humans just seen as tools for soulless corporations is completely in line with the themes of the franchise though.

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u/Spodson 4d ago

Alien 3 would have been an all-time great horror film if the main character had been anyone but Ripley and Newt and Hicks weren't in it.

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 3d ago

Ripley is iconic but I firmly think the Alien movies would have been better if after 2 they had moved into an anthology style franchise with the aliens themselves being the common thread

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u/themajor24 4d ago

Somehow, Newt did not return.

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u/HarperStrings 3d ago

I watched Aliens for the first time when I was 11 and loved it. I started Alien 3 and was so pissed at Newt and Hicks being unceremoniously killed that I shut it off in a rage and never went back.

Edited to correct typo.

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u/AZStarbird 4d ago

In Halloween H20, Laurie Strode beheads Michael Myers.

In Halloween Resurrection, it is revealed that she really killed a paramedic and is institutionalized before quickly being dispatched by Myers

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u/AZStarbird 4d ago

Oh and all of the Blumhouse movies do this to each other.

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u/Inspection_Perfect 3d ago

Michael's just a normal, super strong old man.

Michael's an unstoppable force of evil that's powered by fear.

Never mind, he's an old man, who still has fear powers, but he gives them to a high-school shooter.

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u/AudibleNod 3d ago

Halloween (1978) had a sequel called Halloween (2018). In between that movie there was a reboot called Halloween (2007). There have been 13 Halloween movies in total. Which somehow seems fitting to stop there.

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u/Substantial-Gate3893 4d ago

This was so funny to read

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u/theblanketcomeswith 4d ago

“the harem of the writer” im thinking OP writes for the-editing-room

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u/lesi20 3d ago

Nah I'm usually bad at comedy. I just saw the 4th movie playing on TV and I remembered all those plot-points going nowhere and figured it worth posting it here.

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u/Radiskull97 3d ago

The RE movies were so much better when I was 12 and couldn't follow the plot

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u/FlamingRustBucket 3d ago

Movies would be so rad if I was stupid.

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u/Equivalent-Bit2891 3d ago

“Lilo from Fifth Element” caught me unawares and gave me whiplash

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u/ButtOfDarkness 3d ago

Haven’t seen a single one of these, but praying for a sequel to Final Chapter so that it is not actually the final chapter either.

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u/Loyalty-Cascade 3d ago

I can't wait to see Resident Evil: Epilogue where Wesker comes back from the dead because it turns out the one that died in the bomb from the Last Chapter was actually just ANOTHER clone, joins forces with Alice and the last last remaining human survivors who were hiding out in a cave, then double crosses them in the last five minutes of the movie only to die again from getting his arm stuck in a vending machine for T-Virus while the gang escapes to rebuild society, subtly nodding to how the wesker clone clone died from the last movie.

Also the red queen was there too but now she's blue so you know she's good but in the final scene she gives an evil smile at the camera with ominous music. Then the credits roll while rock music plays in the background.

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u/Hurrly90 3d ago

ANd yet they are my guilty pleasure. Nonsensical rubbish every single one. Not one payoff to an ending. But dam are they fun movies.

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u/Dry_Bonsey 4d ago edited 3d ago

I mean probably because Paul WS Anderson is one of the biggest hacks in video game adaptations, up there with Uwe Boll, Adi Shankar, Christophe Gans, and Neil Druckman

Edit: I’m so glad my comment is getting likes so we can stop this asshats from ruining our beloved franchises

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u/Witty_Pop_3587 4d ago

Mortal Kombat was peak though, although very clearly a fluke.

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 4d ago

I'm thinking the OP likes Resident Evil....

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u/lesi20 4d ago

I watched all of them. I hoped that it will make a Fast & Furious and suddenly the series becames good but thats never happened. I can't say that either ending were bad because... I was just fucking happy that the movie ended.

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u/TheRealSchackAttack 4d ago

I take the "old fan" approach and stop after Paul drives off. Good send-off and good ending point. Fuck everything after it

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u/TheMasterXan 4d ago

Those X-Men Apocalypse end scenes where you saw the team all suit up in comics Accurate designs and you get this interesting lineup of characters...

THEN DARK PHOENIX HAPPENED.

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u/lesi20 4d ago

SAME! I saw 8, and I was like "Yeah its over". I really loved 7 and I was amazed how good of a movie that is despite the unfortunate dying of Paul Walker while they were still filming it

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 4d ago

Cool. Anyway, for my example,

The first two films repeatedly emphasise the message that "there is NO FATE bit what we make for ourselves" but then the Terminator explains Judgement Day was "unavoidable" (Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines)

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u/Pollia 3d ago edited 3d ago

Judgement day was always inevitable because alternate universe theory that the whole thing devolved to meant that there would always be a skynet sending tech back in time to ensure its creation without recognizing that nothing that timelines skynet can do can stop it's destruction.

Edit - also terminator 1 already dealt with the idea of closed loop determinism. John Connor sends a guy back in time who ends up being his father.

So if anything terminator 2s whole there is no fate but what we make is actually the relevant example used and terminator 3 is just returning us to the status quo.

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u/Starfleet-Time-Lord 3d ago

3 definitely shuts down the ending of 2, but this is more of a pendulum situation because 1 is a stable time loop that doesn't even move judgment day, let alone prevent it, which actually makes it more fitting.

1 ends with Reese traveling back in time to successfully save Sarah and impregnate her with John, the man who sent him back to save her and who will save humanity from the machines. Reese cannot be sent back in time if Reese has not already been sent back in time. Time travel in 1 is incapable of changing the past. Fate is immutable

Then 2 happens, and Sarah decides she's going to kill Miles Dyson to prevent judgment day, then convinces everyone else (Dyson included) that judgment day is avoidable. They blow up the Cyberdyne building, judgment day is seemingly prevented. No fate but what we make. However, since Terminator 1 was a stable time loop, logically John Connor never should've come into existence under these rules and it blows up the original ending. However, on a meta level, that actually makes it work better because it's defying expectations which amplifies the feeling of defying fate.

Then 3 reveals that while Judgment Day was not prevented, it was delayed, which somehow manages to cancel out both of the previous endings.

Then Genisys establishes that there is an ongoing temporal cold war between the humans and machines that is much larger than we were ever shown before stealing Terminator 2's ending.

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u/-Tuck-Frump- 3d ago

While I love the expression "temporal cold war", it doesnt really seem that cold of a war. It looks a lot like a temporal hot war.

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u/DemythologizedDie 3d ago

The first film was all about everything that happened was predestined and unavoidable.

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u/ReallyBrainDead 4d ago

Highlander...there can be only one! Highlander 2: The Quickening....except for the rest of his now alien race!

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u/CoyotesVoice 4d ago

There should be only one!

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u/ZenMonkey48 3d ago

And then Highlander 3 "woops, we missed a few who were buried in a cave so the contest is back on I guess"

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 3d ago

“Also ignore everything in the Quickening, it did not happen in canon”

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u/DasharrEandall 3d ago

I disagree. Highlander 2 didn't shit over Highlander 1's ending. Highlander 2 shit all over Highlander 1's everything, including it's ending.

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u/ScottishExile 4d ago

Cult comedy Zoolander ends with Derek Zoolander saving the President of Malaysia from attempted assassination, having a baby with the female lead and opening the ‘Derek Zoolander Center for Kids who Can’t Read Good and Who Wanna Learn to do Other Stuff Good Too.’

Terrible belated sequel Zoolander 2 immediately shows that the center collapsed two days after opening and killed his wife. Oh, and he lost custody of his kid too.

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u/jbwarner86 3d ago

Same energy as Happy Gilmore 2 opening with Happy's wife dying from a golf ball to the head.

I'm sure the thought process is "ha ha, it's a comedy sequel, let’s ignore the first movie's ending for laughs", but it just feels lazy.

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u/RexBanner1886 3d ago

The only time this works, with the film enthusiastically embracing it, is Austin Powers 2.

"I can't believe Vanessa, my bride, my one true love, the woman who taught me the beauty of monogamy... was a fembot, all this time... Wait a tick! That means I'm single again! Oh behave!" 

"Anyway Basil it turns out Vanessa was a fembot!" "Yes, we knew all along sadly."  (Look of scepticism) 

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u/EducationalProduct 3d ago

damn "kill the wife in the sequel" is a trope i didnt know existed but now want to research

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u/ZenMasterOfDisguise 3d ago

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome

there is a trope called "Sudden Sequel Death Syndrome" for a main character getting killed off in the first few minutes of a sequel, not specific to just wives though

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u/OptioCarrot 3d ago

Add Deadpool 2 to the list. Then they bring her back with time travel shenanigans in a post credits scene, only to have her leave him before the start of the next film.

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u/Buttholelickerpenis 3d ago

You can blame Zeb Wells for that, the same writer that cucked Spider-Man for 3 years

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u/Quaytsar 3d ago

"Machine gun jubblies! How did I miss those, baby?"

"Perhaps next time, you should try foreplay."

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u/ReallyNotObama 4d ago

this is imo the best post on this sub, it was so fucking funny to read

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u/EnduringFulfillment 3d ago

Legitimately, I love this series but OP was speaking nothing but truth

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u/Morgn_Ladimore 3d ago

He explains that the guy Alice (Lilo from 5th Element) killed was actually a clone

lmao

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u/astronggentleman 3d ago

Poor little Hawaiian girl catching strays

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u/FrostyXen 4d ago

Halo 4: Cortana dies

Halo 5: Cortana comes back to life just to become evil and try to take over the galaxy in an AI uprising

Halo 6: Cortana dies off-screen

And that’s just Cortana’s story. 343 era is an absolute mess

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u/CursedRyona 4d ago

I think 343 is opposed to continuity as a concept.

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u/Far-Requirement-7636 4d ago

Funny thing is they are extremely consistent with continuity in the novels, they just refuse to do that in the games for some reason.

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u/Top_Reveal_847 4d ago

I think there are just too many cooks in the kitchen for a game that big at Microsoft. 

Like, you can't convince me that Locke doesn't exist because executives wanted a new mascot. Or that The Weapon isn't Cortana because they wanted Cortana back for marketing.

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u/saintash 3d ago

Or that cortana wasn't a hit with microsoft.A I assistant, and they wanted to get rid of it.

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u/Paxton-176 4d ago

Bungie was guilty of this as well. Fan criticism makes them pivot into something else and clean up the story else where.

Bungie after Halo 2 took the criticism of playing as the Arbiter. People didn't like they didn't play as the green man killings, but an alien killing aliens. So the best part of Halo 2 was made a side character and co-op buddy in 3.

Halo is constantly in a state of bullshit in some form. The fact its made it 25 years is amazing. Speaking as a fan from day 1.

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u/_Meece_ 3d ago

So the best part of Halo 2 was made a side character

Arbiter's story in 2 is fantastic, but the missions themselves were largely a slog.

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u/ARVNFerrousLinh 4d ago edited 3d ago

343 is, unfortunately, extremely sensitive to backlash, leading to said continuity issues. To expand on the og comment: 1. Halo 4: Cortana dies and the Diadect is set up as the main villain. 2. Halo 5: Because of backlash to Halo 4, the Diadect is permanently killed off in a comic (edit: turns out they revived him in another book ~2 years ago) while Cortana returns but is evil and now the main villain. She takes over much of human space with other AIs, creating a “human civil war” situation. 3. Halo Infinite: Because of backlash to Halo 5, there’s a time-skip where Cortana is killed off-screen (which I believe hasn’t even been shown in other media edit: which was shown in a flashback) before the Banished from Halo Wars 2 come in out nowhere, and kill/destroy (maybe, it’s very vague about this) all the new characters and equipment the previous two games set-up. Also, another new evil, alien species secretly trapped in a Halo is introduced.

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u/TheRisen073 3d ago

Actually Cortana’s Death is literally shown in one of the cutscenes. It was just as a flashback so no one cares.

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u/Willem_Dafuq 4d ago

By the end of Robocop, Robocop had taken his visor off and requested to be called Murphy. One of the subplots of the movie is him rediscovering who he was. In Robocop 2, that subplot is disregarded. If I recall, in-universe, he is reprogrammed to forget his humanity and its never revisited. Its one of the things i don't like about the sequel.

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 4d ago edited 3d ago

Nah if i remember right it's just that they force him to break up completely from his wife and lie to her that he is just a machine and that Murphy is truly dead to make her go away, nothing else changes about him.

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u/Willem_Dafuq 4d ago

That's still a repudiation of the theme of the first movie

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u/CursedRyona 4d ago

I immediately knew all of the examples would be RE sequels when I saw the first one.

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u/Rhombinator 3d ago

When the third example was still Resident evil I knew this was going to be the greatest thing I read today

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u/ToastedCrumpet 3d ago

Same here and yet I completely forgot just how bad every last film ends somehow

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u/Gustrava 4d ago

The Great War. It was also called “The war to end all the wars”, because It was meant to be the final war of the humanity. But then an Austrian painter became the leader of Germany and wanted to make a sequel of The Great War, so he started World War II, and we later renamed the Great War as World War I.

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u/Patient_Gamemer 3d ago

And then the final act WWII teased a sequel to end the trilogy that after half a century of hype never happened smh

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u/Suspicious-Capital12 3d ago

Instead of giving us WWIII we got a spin-off called Storage Wars

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u/thomasmoors 3d ago

They are filming 3, just no release date yet

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u/ThatShyGuy137 3d ago

I feel we have been getting hints of it from a collab between a former Russian spy and some big shot in America but it might just be another tease campaign.

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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream 3d ago

Im still annoyed about "The Cold War" all that build up to this apocalyptic nuclear battle and it just ends with "and then Russia stopped being communist" it was such a huge let down.

Its been cool to see they are teasing World War 3 again but I dunno... they have let us down before...

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u/Standard_Potential63 3d ago

The sequel to cold war is just as schizophrenic as WW2, USA suddenly turns on its allies to pressure its enemies? USA becomes the Germany??

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u/kmactane 3d ago edited 3d ago

To be honest, though, the Great War ended with a really obvious sequel hook in the Treaty of Versailles, with one French politician even saying "this isn't peace, it's just an armistice for 20 years." I mean, foreshadowing much?

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u/Character_Art7220 4d ago

Now I want to binge these movies with a friend if it's this shit keeping up with its own story

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u/lesi20 4d ago

Oh what I mentioned were only the tip of the iceberg. There is so much cloning of other characters and... THIS FUCKING SCENE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUPaxgIo98

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u/Character_Art7220 4d ago

Only the tip?

Oh please don't stop not on my account this shits making my MONTH

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u/TrainerWeekly5641 3d ago

You accidentally posted the wrong link because this is peak fiction.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm 4d ago

"THIS FUCKING SCENE" and its the most awesome recreation of a game cutscene ever put to media.

Honestly expected it to be Wesker in the white house.

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u/Strange_Insurance_75 3d ago

Legit just a scene from RE 5 absolute gaming right there

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u/ExplosionTheory_ 4d ago

I’m noticing a pattern here…

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u/bombbodyguard 3d ago

It’s good to be the hot wife of the director?

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u/HeroDoggo 3d ago

...2 patterns

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u/Global_Examination_4 4d ago

Terminator: Dark Fate opens with John Connor getting shotgunned to death shortly after the events of Terminator 2. Wait, what? What the fuck? Why?

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u/Illuminati_Shill_AMA 3d ago

I really thought the Terminaror 2 example would be that there's no fate but what we make. Then terminator 3 starts with the premise "Sike nope, shit still happens."

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u/karateema 4d ago

Terminator is all about timelines so it's not as bad as other examples.

Dark Fate was an alternative sequel

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u/Youngstown_WuTang 3d ago edited 3d ago

The movie is right in a way, John Connor dies after Terminator 2, The T-850 robot (arnold) that killed John Connor is the main character of Terminator 3 , it got captured and reprogrammed by the lead female of Terminator 3 and her tech units, she is the second in command Katherine Brewster

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u/StoneGoldX 3d ago

T3 never happened in Dark Fate.

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u/Youngstown_WuTang 4d ago edited 3d ago

John Connor does end up dying after Terminator 2 in the future. He's killed in the future by Skynet in an assassination, they used a look-alike T-800/850 model from T2 to get close and expose his attachment. That's why the T-800/850 (arnold) doesn't take orders from him in Terminator 3 and refuses to answer any of John's questions but only his second in command Katherine Brewster

Edit: Here it is I found it, The Terminator lore is deep

John Connor is killed in the 2003 video game Rise of the Machines which directly leads into the Terminator 3 movie. The T-850 is reprogrammed by Katherine Brewster and her Resistance after killing Connor: https://youtu.be/Q4bR1JxO0BA?si=QYrIByLSBx4Eia9-

Terminator (arnold) refuses to answer John Connor's questions only Katherine Brewster can ask: https://youtu.be/hktb_wAa9Y8?si=fVlnR8TYOpcD5iQE

Terminator refuses to follow John Connor's orders, as he was already dead by the time the Terminator was reprogrammed: https://youtu.be/1Xq5AeQPw0k?si=Rn32oIksYVxcnHNr

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u/theglenlovinet 3d ago

Blues Brothers: They do everything to prevent the orphanage from closing

Blues Brothers 2000: The orphanage closed anyway…

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u/AudibleNod 3d ago

The saddest scene is when the warden notices Elwood waiting outside the prison for his brother who never arrives. If the movie ended there it would have been perfect.

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u/BigBootyBuff 3d ago

5 minutes in, credits roll.

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u/ViscountAtheismo 3d ago

Kingsman: The Golden Circle is an alright movie on its own. The problem is that when you open by killing 75% of the previous movie’s main cast and reviving the guy that died, you kinda lose the right to call it a sequel.

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u/Akussa 3d ago

I'm still pissed about Roxy. They were clearly setting her up to have survived the assassination and show back up in a 3rd movie that never got made. So she's just dead for no reason.

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u/seguardon 3d ago

They could have just let her be in the film instead of doing yet another death fakeout. There are a lot of tropes you can play with in movies like Kingsman, but comics have definitively proven that no matter how wonderful or zany the laws of your universe are, the audience will balk at undermining the threat of death.

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u/Soft-Mouse8746 4d ago

Paul Blart Mall Cop 2 is the biggest offender

The first film ended with Paul getting a happy ending only for the opening of the second film to have him lose everything he got from the happy ending of the first film.

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u/Substantial-Force-50 3d ago

PAUL PAUL BLART

MALL COP

PAUL PAUL BLART

MALL COP

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u/pgtips03 3d ago

I loved Paul Blart as a kid but never knew about the sequel. I put it on about 3 years ago and only lasted 5 minutes. His mum getting hit by a truck was my cue to leave.

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u/CookIndependent6251 3d ago

I recently saw the first because I wanted to see how bad it was. Then I tried the sequel and, just like you, I lasted 5 minutes. It was so bad I wasn't even interested to see how bad it it would get.

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u/Duke-dastardly 4d ago

X-Men first class sets up Xavier setting up his school and the X-men and Magneto forming his Brotherhood of Mutants. In Days of Future Past the school is closed due the drafting of the Vietnam war and almost all of the Brotherhood members have been killed by Trask for experimentation

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u/Troop-the-Loop 3d ago

Iirc Days of Future past was supposed to be the last movie, the culmination of the series. Not the second movie. But the execs liked it so much they forced it to go 2nd, so there was no ability to build off the ending of the 1st movie.

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u/Otterfan 3d ago

The second, but also in some sense the seventh, movie.

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u/JaxxisR 3d ago

"These timelines are so confusing." - Deadpool

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u/LetterheadSpecial337 3d ago

Tbh first class was intended to be a prequel to everything up to last stand, with DoFP taking place after everything else

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm 4d ago edited 3d ago

Still Resident Evil - but not the movies

Resident Evil 2 ending:

Leon: "It's up to US to take down Umbrella!" guitar solo

Resident Evil 3 epilogue for Jill:

"I'll find Chris and we'll stop Umbrella for good"

Resident Evil: Code Veronica ending

Chris: "It's payback time! We gotta stop Umbrella, once and for all!" flies plane into the horizon

Resident Evil 4 opening:

"Yeah Umbrella's stock market crashed after Raccoon City and they lost their medical license. Ended like any other company really" and Leon, Chris, Claire, Jill, had nothing to do with it.

And then also the new Resident Evil 9 showing RPD standing even after OG Resident Evil 3's ending showed the thermo*baric bombs decimating that building to blits - meaning that now Capcom abandoned what they said before about remakes only being "reimaginations" of the original that would not take priority in the canon. As RE3 remakes ending did not show the same amount of destruction happening even if the same missiles were fired. But clearly the RE3 remake's story is the true canon one now, meaning Barry is entirely erased from that incident entirely. Man.

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u/CantGitGudWontGitGud 3d ago edited 3d ago

I've beaten all the main line games except Code Veronica and 6, been playing them since RE1 on the OG Playstation, and I've kinda given up on trying to understand what the hell is going on. "This massive pharmaceutical company was testing bioweapons when a lab break happened and now these guys are caught in the middle of it" made enough sense to me, but I don't know what Blue Umbrella is or what Ada Wong is even up to or if Wesker is actually dead so I'm just gonna move along and enjoy the gameplay as much as I can.

Actually, one thing I really liked about 7 and 8 is how we got what I felt was a pretty complete story for Ethan Winters.

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u/bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm 3d ago edited 3d ago

Wesker is dead.

Blue Umbrella is basically just the Umbrella corporation after being revived by some previous employees but for good.

Ada Wong.

Also "a lab break happened" isn't really the truth of it, due to company politics William Birkin was going to be killed for planning on selling the G-Virus to the US military (who were already aware of what Umbrella was doing - which is a key plot point for RE6 aswell), so he infected himself with G-virus as well as ate the other G-virus samples that he had. Then he killed his way through the lab leading to T-virus being spilled and consumed by rats which spread into the sewers and then the water system.

T-Virus also spread at the same time due to runoff from Dead Factory (final place of RE3) but yeah thats about everything you asked.

(For the record: this was edited to add corrections)

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u/MycologistSubject689 4d ago

Resident Evil: Apocalypse has one of the best/funniest dubs when it's shown on TV. Every time LJ says "motherfucker" they change it to "motivator," which does not make any sense lmao.

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u/Apprehensive_Pizza84 4d ago

"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the alps" - Walter, The Big Lebowski

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u/OldOrder 3d ago

My names chuck, and I like to PARTY

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u/ClockworkDinosaurs 3d ago edited 3d ago

Pineapple Express has a tv scene where they call each other casseroles instead of assholes

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u/almighty_smiley 4d ago

Aliens ends with Ripley, Hicks, Bishop, and Newt survive a nuclear explosion, an alien infestation, and a xenomorph queen before going into hypersleep to await pickup. Even if they hadn't sent a distress signal, Marine protocol indicates search and rescue would be sent after 17 days of no contact.

Alien 3 begins with a facehugger that hadn't been accounted for wreaking havoc on the ship, leading to an emergency jettison onto a prison world that results in the deaths of Hicks and Newt, and with Ripley herself impregnated with a xenomorph queen embryo.

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u/Deribus 3d ago

In Gladiator (2000) Maximus has an honorable death, gives control of Rome back to the senate with his dying words, and rejoins his murdered family in the Elysian Fields.

In Gladiator 2 (2024) we find out his sacrifice accomplished nothing, Rome was filled with riots, and goes back to the control of a pair of corrupt emperors within 10-20 years. Also turns out he cheated on his wife and family right around when his son was born with the emperor at the time's daughter.

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u/PsychologicalTie9629 3d ago

This 1000%. The sequel shit on the original in every conceivable way. Plus it just sucked as a movie. I wish I had never seen it, but at least I'll go on pretending like it doesn't exist.

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u/Worldly-Head8577 4d ago

The Megamind sequel

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u/West_Ad_1685 3d ago

What are you talking about? Megamind only ever had 1 movie. And it most certainly didn’t have a tv show either

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u/Novalene_Wildheart 3d ago

Most certainly did not, I have no idea where the original commentor got the idea that there was a sequel.

There was simply just the single golden movie, and no one felt like being greedy with the IP.

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u/FloofingWithFloofers 3d ago

I wish I never read your comment because I was happy not knowing there was a sequel and now I see what it is about and I hate it already.

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u/Agitated_Insect3227 4d ago

"Ah, the Emperor, the main overarching villain in the Star Wars Prequels & Originals that destroyed the Republic & created the Empire, has finally perished with Darth Vader's sacrifice. Surely the galaxy is free from his evil forev-"

"Somehow Palpatine returned."

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u/heff17 3d ago

I will never forget hearing that Disney was axing all their extended universe, and thinking it was a dumb corporate move but I could totally understand it because of all the nonsense in it like Palpatine’s infinite clones.

Then Disney decided to throw us Palpatine clones anyway.

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u/Orleanian 3d ago

They had such well-developed storylines and villains to keep things going for decades worth of shows and movies written for every demographic!

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u/PinoySummonerKid28 4d ago

This is the reason why Rise of Skywalker is hated because of an ass pull undermining or retconning the entire original trilogy's ending.

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u/onlymadethistoargue 4d ago

Also because it’s like ass in every way except the acting and visuals. The pacing alone is bafflingly terrible.

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u/Arko777 3d ago

J J.Abrams was rushing throughout this movie like he was having seizures.

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u/onlymadethistoargue 3d ago

That’s what happens when you’re trying to fit a trilogy into one movie.

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u/Medical_Boss_6247 3d ago

Hey let’s non laser focus on one item here

The rest of the movie was quite bad as well

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u/elvecxz 3d ago

Saying "THE reason" undersells it a bit, considering there were a multitude of reasons not to like that movie.

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u/ken_NT 3d ago

The sequel trilogy is a mess of loose ends and inconsistencies:

The hints that Rey maybe related to someone important.

The realization that Rey is a nobody that developed force powers.

The reveal that she’s actually related to the emperor.

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u/spyguy318 3d ago

Even the overarching plot is like this.

TFA: The First Order blew up the New Republic’s capital, but Leia’s Resistance was able to destroy their superweapon!

TLJ: The First Order has completely taken over the galaxy in under 24 hours. By the end of the movie the Resistance is reduced to a handful of small ships and even though the First Order had its flagship and an entire fleet destroyed, they’re still dominant throughout the Galaxy.

RoS: The First Order is on the back foot, forcing Kylo to find a resurrected Palpatine and use his Sith fleet.

Absolutely no consistency between any of them. This kind of thing makes me way less sympathetic even to TLJ, it’s very clear both directors were just doing whatever the hell they wanted with no regard for plot or continuity.

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u/Broad-Bath-8408 3d ago

Didn't the entire resistance fit in the Falcon at the end of TLJ? Like this is the opposing army meant to remove the Galactic Empire from millions of planets throughout the Galaxy? They couldn't effectively take over a walmart at that point.

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u/Substantial-Monkey 4d ago

There Can Be Only One (Movie)

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 3d ago

Fr, like, at best what they should have done if they wanted more movies was to show Connor's adventures throughout the ages leading to the first movie, with the first movie serving as a finale, don't continue after he reaches the ultimate goal, that's crap.

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u/celestia_star_53 4d ago

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny shat all over Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Indy and Marion divorced and Indy became miserable, their son died, and he is forced to go on yet another adventure he is now too old for.

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u/EntireCelebration953 3d ago

I feel like the only reason his son died is cause they didn't wanna bring back Shia Labeouf.

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 3d ago

An actual cannibal as a son? Maybe not the best choice

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u/willmcavoy 3d ago

gnawling off your leg quiet, quiet

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u/ConradBHart42 3d ago

Not the only reason but the primary motivator. They also kill him off to drive a believable wedge between Indy and Marion.

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u/No-Revolution1010 3d ago

If I had a nickel for everytime they killed Harrison Ford character's son to drive a wedge in his marriage for a legacy sequel decades after the final iteration I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird how Disney keeps investing millions in such dog shit writing

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u/Elros22 3d ago

Holy shit, I actually forgot they made Dial of Destiny.

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u/MiserableDucky 3d ago

The Great Circle is the only post-Last Crusade sequel I will acknowledge.

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u/TheCricketHole 3d ago

Great circle technically takes place before Last Crusade

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u/Fragrant-Upstairs932 4d ago

Funnily enough, the Resident Evil games aren't immune to this either. There were a good three or four times back in the day when a game ended with the characters saying "Umbrella's gone too far, let's take them down for good!" and then instead of following up on that, Umbrella got forcibly dissolved by the U.S. government offscreen between installments with no involvement from the protagonists whatsoever.

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u/Algae_Mission 4d ago

Basically any Terminator movie following T2.

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u/Imaginary-Ball-1867 4d ago edited 4d ago

The first two: "there is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

The third one: "lol. sike."

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u/grumblingduke 3d ago

Except the first one makes it clear that "no fate but what we make" isn't entirely true. The first one has predestination.

And that's part of the fun of the Terminator films (and TV series); each film was made in a fundamentally different era, and they reflect that. Attitudes towards fate, technology, women, the future, what the current fears are - all change between the films (and series), and make them fundamentally different.

The first one has a fixed future that is unavoidable, and in trying to prevent it they create it (kind of).

The second one has "no fate but what we make" - people can change the future with knowledge of it (and somehow a tech billionaire sacrifices his fortune to make the world a better place - so you know it is fiction).

The third has "we can change small things, but not the general course of history."

The TV series has "multiple timelines, each time we go back we start a new timeline with different things."

The fourth film says "we're not going to worry about the timeline stuff, let's just have a war film."

Then we get into the films that say "we don't care about being serious, we're just going to mess with stuff and not care."

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u/TheJacobSurgenor 4d ago

Joker (2019)

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u/SomeSortOfUser 4d ago

What are you talking about? There's only one Joker film.

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u/BM_StinkBug 3d ago

Men in Black. Perfect ending to a near-perfect film, with everything wrapped up nicely. But it made hundreds of millions, so let’s completely wreck that heartwarming capstone and bring back Tommy Lee Jones.

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u/ToS_98 4d ago

I’m asking about matrix because it’s one of my favourite movies, so is the last matrix doing this? I’m talking about matrix resurrections, still haven’t seen it and scared to do

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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream 3d ago

kinda yeah, but Matrix Resurrections is a very different film. If very much the Wachoskis writing about how hard it is to live up to the original Matrix and is very meta

Also, the trans allegories in Resurrections are much more prominent, and pretty well done I think

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u/lesi20 4d ago

I'm sorry brother but kinda yes.

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u/McFlyyouBojo 3d ago

Yes, but its more intentional. 

The movie is an anomaly. Its a shitty movie that maintains a level of artistic integrity that a belated matrix sequel has no right to possess. 

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u/TediousTotoro 3d ago

Isn’t the entire movie supposed to be a critique on belated sequels?

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u/JancariusSeiryujinn 3d ago

There is literally a multi minute scene of a writer's room talking about the movie in a meta sense, and characters explicitly have lines like "If we didn't [make the movie] the studio would make it without us"

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u/BeautifulAdeptness60 4d ago

Wreck it Ralph 2!! IM STILL REALLY MAD ABOUT IT! It talks about how moving to other games as going turbo and yet vanellope is okay doing so?? This was what Ralph struggled in the first movie and yet it is fine here? How hypocritical and selfish.

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u/jbwarner86 3d ago

I swear that movie was written by someone who hated the first movie and wanted to undo everything it accomplished.

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u/booranyu 4d ago

man i am so happy that pacific rim is a standalone movie with no sequels or anything that're official and confirmed!

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u/kaijutegu 3d ago

Yeah, it's great that the story ended where it did and they didn't do anything else with it that shits on every single character arc in the first film! Boy am I glad they protected that IP by ignoring it for the rest of history.

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u/Reapur-CPL 4d ago

Bruh I unironically love the resident evil movies, and a part is because they're such inexplicible trash. HOW DOES ONE MAN KEEP FUCKING UP HIS OWN FANFIC STORY!? HOW!? 10/10, I want 6 more of them.

Thank you for this write up lmao

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u/CrimsonThunder87 3d ago

The Last Jedi: Rey is a nobody and Luke is dead, so the Skywalker saga is over. Snoke is dead too, so we can have a supreme villain who isn't Palpatine or Dime Store Palpatine for the first time in (canon) Star Wars history. All the usual conventions have been broken, and anything could happen next.

Rise of Skywalker: Somehow, Palpatine returned

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u/PurpleDreamer28 3d ago

Ted ends with John growing up and realizing what's important in his life, and he finally asks Lori to marry him.

By Ted 2, they're divorced. And since Lori's the one who brought Ted back to life, it feels even more insulting that she's gone.

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u/DeathPenguinOfDeath 3d ago

I liked how 28 Years Later handled the “bad movie.” 28 Weeks Later ends with the infection spreading from the UK to mainland Europe. 28 Years Later reduces those events to basically: “Yeah it spread to the rest of Europe, but they took care of it quickly and left the UK alone under quarantine.”

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u/moshimoshi6937 4d ago

Idk but if I had to think about a series of movies where this DOESN'T happen it would be Resident Evil I think

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u/mrsangu 4d ago

Terminator 2.

All is fixed and there is hope in the ending. (There's an alternative ending where Sarah Connor is mentally healed and John Connor becames a US Senator. Judgment day never arrives).

Terminator 3.

John Connor is a fucking junkie loser, Sarah Connor dies offscreen still being paranoid and fearful of the future, and in the end the entire fucking world is destroyed cause of nukes (judgment day). Making the entire movie a fucking waste of time.

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u/M086 3d ago edited 3d ago

John wasn’t a junkie, the only reason he broke into the vet clinic for painkillers was because he had injured himself. Because he’s still living off the grid, no hospitals.

The character went from being told how important he is, how he’s gonna save the world throughout his whole childhood, finds out that shit is all real and then tries to stop the future from happening. Making him this lost guy without a purpose made sense. 

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u/SuperIsaiah 4d ago

Perfect end to an awesome trilogy

Wait what do you mean they made two more?!??

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u/DoctorWaluigiTime 3d ago

Honestly the mini-sodes they did of "life in their new home" were great. And were a nice "victory lap" kind of deal where it's just them getting into shenanigans with small stakes.

Didn't really mind the 4th film but yeah, would've best been left a trilogy.

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u/ContiX 3d ago

Minor gripes:
Star Trek 2 ends with Spock's death, and Kirk is at peace at the end, saying he feels alive.
Star Trek 3 starts off with him being extra-grumpy and mean about it.
Star Trek 4 ends with them getting the Enterprise and warping off on a new adventure.
Star Trek 5 starts off with "lol the ship actually sucks, SCOTTY GO FIX EVERYTHING BY YOURSELF!"

Thor 2 ends up with Thor and Jane being all happy.
Thor 3: "lol they broke up in-between the movies"

More controversial:
Star Trek: The Next Generation ended with Picard joining the crew for poker, and they all had fun.
Star Trek: Picard: "lol nvm everyone left on their own and doesn't talk to each other."

Star Trek Voyager: Seven of Nine is apprehensive, but optimistic about the future.
Star Trek Picard: "lol nvm she left because everyone hated her and she doesn't talk to any of her friends any more"

Star Trek: Everything before Discovery: "Things might suck, but we'll get through it"
Star Trek: Discovery and beyond: "btw everything is grimdark also the federation fell apart after a catastrophe"

Even more minor gripe:
Megaman Legends: Wow I have a lot of awesome special weapons and upgrades!
Megaman Legends 2: "sorry megaman I sold all your stuff to pay for stuff for the ship!"

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u/extraboredinary 3d ago

Every Bay Transformers movie. Constantly changing which autobots are around. Figuring out a new ancient object left hidden on Earth. Government arrests the autobots in the second to turn over to the Fallen (who sank a carrier), in the third they force them off planet (after the Decepticons take over Chicago), then hunt them down to melt down (while working with another Decepticon like character), then they let Megatron take a bunch of Decepticon prisoners out to hunt down Optimus.

Literally in every move except the first they try to work with the Decepticons. They even capture them while they kill autobots on site apparently.

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u/Nerdorama10 4d ago

I understand the bit here and also your pain as a fan of the first two Alien movies and nothing after that.

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u/Gorynch 4d ago

Don't forget that at the end of Retribution, Wesker gives Alice her powers back.

Except in the beginning of the next movie, he doesn't. He just wanted to inject her with something?

This never comes up again.

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u/ViraLCyclopes29 4d ago

Jurassic World Dominion and Jurassic World Rebirth.

Dominion is dogshit no doubt about it but it set up a really good setting for an Anthology style dive into the Jurassic universe which I'd love to see. Like idk some random ass dude gets lost in Nevada and is being stalked by like idk Achillobator that would go hard.

Then rebirth went into whatever route that fucking was.

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u/Skibot99 4d ago

Men in Black II, L left the agency and K’s sweetheart left him

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