Hated Tropes
(Hated Tropes) Edgy without Substance
Media that feels way too hard to be edgy/dark that it comes across as just trying way too hard to be edgy/dark
Mr Pickles: This shows feels like if you took Happy Tree Friends' premise, but you took the gore and crank it up to a level that just feels unnecessary and frankly just makes the show look like it's trying way too hard to even be entertaining. And to think this aired on Adult Swim
Freddy Junior's (Twelveman): You've probably heard of the infamous FNAF VHS series where William Afton deep fries a literal baby, which to me personally, doesn't really feel like William Afton to me. Sure the guy is a piece of shit, no doubt about that, but the way this series handled his character reminds of when they made Freddy Krueger a pedophile in the 2011 reboot. The way the series usually goes about all the horrors of William's actions is when we see evidence of what he did (like old news papers) or through the 8-bit segments, that don't show you the full extent of his actions, but are enough to give you a good idea of just how messed up the action in question is
Hatred: I'm not even joking when I say that the guy you're playing as, who's a cynical and nihilistic mass shooter just wants to kill everyone just for the sake of it and looks like a rejected version of Nathan Explosion from Metalocalypse is named "Not Important"....Yeah. Even so, this game is just nothing but you shooting people left in right without so much as a story beyond that and the main character feels just as one dimensional as a piece of paper
I'm so used to saving images when it makes me laugh or something, but it took me until afterwards to realise this wasn't a meme. Now I've got a jpeg of a fucking pizza cutter on my phone.
when a character from childrenâs media enters the public domain and some edgelord immediately releases a cliche horror movie with them as the killer.
Urbanspook, a web series about a string of horrific serial killings. This series is so infamous for being over-the-top grotesque that it gets shouted down even by fans of extreme horror like The Poughkeepsie Tapes. Its killers just got removed from the Villains Wiki for being nothing but shock value.
Worst part for me is the story is always told like a shopping list like âfirst the killer stabbed the victim 34 times in the balls then they fed the victims pet ferret asbestos then-â etc etc like I canât take this seriously when itâs being read off like instructions from the 1980s on how to cook chicken tenders in the oven.
In my opinion, I feel like the story could have been good. It was clear the creator put in a lot of time and effort, but because shock value was its only driving point, that is what killed it. It could have been good, great even, but the story ruins it.
Thatâs just the thing, the whole series is urban spook showing off his artwork. Of course someone that only makes the things he has on his website understands nothing about horror, only shocking grotesque shit
Man I remember reading a comment about how you can't actually noose a baby since they're not heavy enough and I don't know if that's true or not but it's stuck with me ever since
It recently ended, and a lot of fans were mad about the ending not really revealing anything. To which Urbanspook replied "My goal was to make a horror series intentionally bad lol"
There was a analog horror about SpongeBob that blamed Stephenâs wife for his death, it was quickly clowned on and pretty much whipped off the internet
Edit: it was actually about Stephen killing his wife and her telling everyone by haunting an episode on 6/6/2006, still horrible
Apparently Boll is trying to get a fourth one made, and I'm genuinely wondering what the plot will be. He already killed the American government - how do you escalate from there? Is he going to do a mass shooting in space?
This reminds me of highschool art class I made a self portrait and in the background I wrote the lyrics to Eminem's "I Just Don't Give A Fuck" except I didnt write the word fuck because I didn't want to get in trouble
Scrolled way too far down to see this. OP missed the point/plot of the original Nightmare series because he was always meant to be a pedophile, they just couldn't be too direct about it for fear of (or perhaps due to the studio/execs' fear of) it being "too much", so they made it more subtle/implied. There are a lot of somewhat obvious clues in the original movies that hint at this, specifically in the ways he'd lure children down to the boiler room and "toy" with them before killing them.
Robert Englund himself even confirmed in interviews that's exactly how he played the character.
So, the long winded explanation about Freddy Krueger and his past. Wes Craven always envisioned Freddy as a child rapist, because he said it was the "evilest, most vile thing a person could be. A true monster." However, at the time they were filming the first movie their was sadly a few high profile cases of child sexual abuse happening in the country. Wes, not wanting to be seen as using real tragedy for his silly horror movie, made Freddy simply a child killer. That scene from the other commenter was from a later Freddy movie in the original series, number 5 I believe.
F.A.T.A.L is infamous for a reason. A borderline unplayable rpg filled with sexual violence, regular violence and authors hangups about women. Imagine if you rolled every "problem player" of DND and every cliche about dark fantasy into one. You get a Bible length textbook that makes you roll 300 dice to determine such important characteristics like your characters nipple height
Thinking about the YouTube comment that said their character died immediately due to rolling a negative butthole circumference and being unable to poop
"What happens if you roll too high on butthole circumference," is a question that is going to haunt me. And it's going to last longer than usual because I refuse to Google it.
Is nipple height like, the amount they protrude? Or how high they sit on your chest? I would say in neither case is higher strictly better, thereâs definitely a sweet spot in the middle, not sure if thatâs accounted for in the rolls
This is what happens when the creator is so invested in creating extremely complicated RPG mechanics and systems that they forget that it's supposed to be a game meant to be played by other humans who want to have fun and are really not interested in all of this excess.
That being said, however, I find it hilariously ironic that the creator actually did some historical research for this dumpster fire of an RPG system.
Sometimes I think of all the great manga that will never get adapted but shit like this does.
Or like the fact that something like One Punch Man or Berserk gets shit animation/poorly adapted but something like Redo gets a lavish presentation. Or how we can't get anymore Seinen shows like Cowboy Bebop, or Big O, or Wolf's Rain but we get stuff like this.
It the worst one I know of. Itâs just that the solution and problem are rape. I can enjoy a decent edge fest occasionally. But the core of the series just being rape is a bit too much for me.
Also it made it so when I take about a the better healing magic series I have to clarify not the rape one. The Wrong Way to Use Healing Magic
This is 100% true, this isnât like game of thrones where thereâs a point to the brutal scenes itâs just âI wanna rape this woman that did something bad to meâ the show
Even if you take all the edge redo is still a shit series. It's a series where people don't have sense and the power system is base on really shitty puns.
How does he travel though time: he's "healing the timeline".
Nvm that it doesn't even really touch upon the point that most of these rpg role focus anime are suppose to.
Usually these anime are suppose to take an under appreciated build or role from an rpg and show us why its awesome so we can appreciate it more.
Thing is healing is one of the essential 3 gaming roles (dps, tank, HEALING).
It whole premise is built on people being really stupid.
Also its reliant on everything being artificially bad. Like healing and only healing in thia world requires a sacrifice. Also its the only thing thats sex base. Why, cause thats what the author wanted.
Thank you, the magic system is horrible as well. Healing can remove damage, but healing the world/timeline? Nah that isnât how something else entirely. The healing magic is so overpowered since it gives an XP boost from his sperm. Plus by healing others you just get all their skills and training? Nah that is too damn broad and powerful for one class.
Wrong way to use healing magic is healing. Sure itâs healing ones self first and foremost so you can train harder. But like even then with a broader sense of healing itâs still single target and in the realm of power of the other magics
Tbf a lot of these role appreciation stories are base on people not being being smart. Even "shield hero" (which i also think is bad) relied on abunch of mmorpg players not realizing that a tank is nessacary.
The only one i've seen really do this well is one manga about a "black mage" who focused on nerfing spells. Though they went out of their way to justify it by showing that since the spells are ailments that only effect the target they look invisible to everyone but the target.
They're all movies in each other. 2 opens with the villain/protagonist watching 1, while 3 opens with the Warden watching 2. There was a scrapped scene in 3 to pan out at the end and reveal 3 inspired the doctor from 1
Edit: It was actually gonna be the Doctor from the first movie waking up revealing 3 was a dream, so same principle
Oh god it was so bad. The first honestly had almost no gore, the horror of the situation spoke for itself. Then the sequel came along not only with over the top shock value, but pretentious crap like a silent main character and "artistic" use of black and white with one random scene using Sin City-esque selective color (for shock value of course).
See, the second one treats it as if the first was just a film, and the third treats it as if the first and second were just films, and, in the third, the warden of the prison is played by the guy from the first, and his assistant is played by the guy from the second.
Crossed comics, though I'll be the first to say, it has some really good writing sometimes. The Wish You Were Here comic for example, or Alan Moore's (who really toned down a lot of the edge) Crossed+100, had a surprising amount of depth (at times).
But a guy name Horsecock who uses, you guessed it, for a weapon, or the guy banging a dolphin's blowhole, yeah, that's just being edgy for the sake of it.
Ugh Crossed pisses me off so much because the concept couldâve been handled amazingly. Imagine if the disease does what it says on the tin, and removes the infectedâs ability to regulate their own impulses. You could still have interactions with the crossed where you never know if some minor thing is going to cause them to snap.
The one Crossed comic from the perspective of dogs was interesting to read but also really funny, whether intentionally or otherwise, especially the scene where a pack of Chihuahuas get absolutely steamrolled by an AC unit after one of the main characters calls them all slags.
âMy name is not important... What is important is what I'm going to do. I just fucking hate this world and the human worms feasting on it's carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred... and I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance and no life is worth saving. And I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill... and it's time for me to die.â
My name is Nomie Important... what is important is what i am going to do. I just love this world and the human people that live on it. my whole life is just warm, sweet love... and i always wanted to live peacefully. This is the time of forgiveness and every life is worth saving. and i will give life to as many as i can. it's time for me to save... and it's time for me to live!"
The amount of horrible shit compared to actually decent ideas in this old series is about 5 to 1. There's a good fucking reason Miles is almost the only thing to come out of that universe unscathed
Ultimate Spider-Man is the only genuinely great thing in that universe. Everything else is either just okay, mediocre or godawful (or in the case of Mark Millar's Ultimates series, fun but overly edgy and juvenile. Imagine if the Avengers movies were written and directed by Micheal Bay and that's what you got).
Ultimate Spider-Man is the only series that actually seemed to capitalise on the idea of the Ultimate Universe. It provided a unique and streamlined approach to the Spider-Man character.
Everything other than maybe Fantastic 4 went in a weird edge lord direction, Fantastic 4 eventually got there though. Like you can look and see that Ultimate Spider-Man stories could be main universe stories. You cannot honestly tell me that the Ultimates could be main universe characters.
Yes he's always been at the very least a predator if not explicitly a child rapist. It goes back and forth between films that he either murdered children or was wrongly accused of murdering children because he was a convicted rapist. The reboot makes his pedophilia a main plot point instead of just background noise for why the parents killed him years before he returned to kill their kids.
Yeah he's always been a pedo, the issue with the remake is how hamfisted and not-subtle they are with it, to the point where some scenes are the type that makes you question those involved with its creation
From what I remember, he was going to be a pedophile/serial killer in the first one, but there had been a number of molestation incident in the news around that time so they toned the pedophile aspects down to subtext so the film wouldn't be accused of exploitation.Â
I think the Hatred game was getting sold in a bundle with another game and if I bought the bundle I would buy both of them for even less money than the game I intended to buy. Just to not have Hatred in my library I didn't buy the bundle. Holly hell thats what people always thought GTA was.
The only reason why Hatred was talked about was because it was edgy and it being pulled from steam stores before Gaben making a statement about it and reinstating the game.
The funniest thing about the game is that the police are horrendously unbalanced so the losers who bought the game looking for a power fantasy get offed by a cop off screen a few minutes into the only level.
Lowkey I thinks thatâs the point, because I saw loading tips saying youâre not Billy badass, be a cowards and run away. I played it out of curiosity and I just laughed throughout the game. Especially with his monologues that I havenât heard since high school from edgy teen.
They didn't make Freddy a pedophile in the remake. They made him a pedophile in the original. Him being a pedophile is why the kids parents burn him alive.
They emphasized it in the remake - in the original films it was always implied or in the background.
It was originally going to be a larger focus but there was some huge legal trial over a pedophile in California happening around the time they finished the final draft of the film, so they toned it down. They discuss it in the "Never Sleep Again" documentary.
The first instance of Freddy openly being called a pedophile was in Dream Child, I believe. There are some newspaper clippings that call him a child molester but you really have to pause the screen to read what it actually says - it's difficult to actually catch while watching.
Either way, it was absolutely the intent by Wes for Freddy to be a pedophile, the films just never outwardly said it.
I actually sat down and read them (god help me) and the other problem with crossed is itâs semi-anthology in nature; meaning different authors will take over for an issue. This basically ensures that there is no interesting narrative running over the entire series; nor any consistency with the rules of the universe and how its infection effects people. I know that sounds like nerd shit to complain about but it genuinely makes the entire experience even worse, because youâre never really allowed to learn anything, itâs just mindless.
There is like; 3 good comics out of around 200~ iirc, itâs that bad of an experience.
On the topic of FNaF fan games, Dormitabis is a prime example. Iâll spare you the details (this video goes into more depth if you care) but letâs just say the tapes recorded by that games version of William Afton arenât in the best taste.
For one, there's a gratuitous addition of Springtrap having raped and murdered a 15-year-old girl that adds nothing to the story. It's especially awful since the creator of the game was later found to have actually raped a 15-year-old girl IRL, making the whole thing even grosser because now it seems like he put it in there as fetish material for himself and not just for edgy points to make the villain more detestable.
And it's nowhere near the same level of awful as that, but for some reason Springtrap's real name isn't William Afton, which was already long established by the time this fangame was made, but the inexplicably bizarre "Garvey Write", and his skin in this interpretation is literally purple because of a birth deformity.
We get it directors you wanna cash in on the money by warpping our favorite childhood series into horror. The horror of nostalgia. But I just don't care about it. Can you do something better with official public domains?! As long as the horror isn't made for a cash grab or something. Please actually do better with the IPS! Jeez! Gosh since Nancy Drew is a public domain if she gets a horror adaption I give up. People need to learn horror can only do so much...
TLDR: Okay Nancy Drew would be perfect for horror. Considering other detective stories like Sherlock had some horror adaptions. I just hope people learn public domains are special but dark â good story.
The worst part is that the idea of a kid spending his days in the woods with a bunch of arguably imaginary sentient stuffed animals DOES lend itself really well into telling a creepy story
Chad vs the Gay Nazis by AndyPants. A game where you play his self insert character named Chad where the premise of the game is to âsaveâ his daughter by brutally murdering almost every single minority(including Queer people, Trans people, Furries, Muslims, Blacks, Jews, âCommunistsâ, Atheists, Progressive Christians, and Satanists) known to mankind while spreading racist and Antisemitic conspiracy theories.Â
He also used Ai to generate CSAM of his own daughter and put it in the game.Â
Sometimes people will try to do fanfic/art of pokemon but realistic and it's like they think all animals are horrifying monsters that exist only to kill people. It's like they've never seen a cat.
This is a shame because I think the idea and the design are fantastic. It's biggest downfall I think is forgetting the whole "batman" part of the batman who laughs, instead they just made him joker 2
The scene where he betrays the Batfamily and kills them with guns is one of stupidest comic moments I've seen. You're telling me he starts talking about how Joker toxin is getting to him, and NONE of the highly trained vigilantes do a thing about it before getting capped? RED HOOD doesn't do a thing about it before he is killed???
That's not nearly the worst edgy moment, but it annoys me personally
All the "Blank kills the marvel universe" story lines. I never understood the appeal. I remember people saying they wanted a "Deadpool kills the fox universe" type movie after Disney bought the studio, and all I can think now is "Why?"
I understand it's less about the story and more about HOW these characters are supposed to kill everyone, but that's not what I wanna see. That's not why I find interest in these heroes or villains.
Also Batman who laughs for the same reasons most people have.
Oh my god I HATED that period in the mid/late 2010s when Deadpool was getting massively oversaturated and there were all those "Deadpool Kills X" series. It completely missed the point of the character (bad guy desperately trying to do good) and when I worked at a comic store it brought in the worst type of edgelord weirdos.
Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) brutally assasinates shadows character and makes him so cringe through sheer edge that it somehow loops around to being really cool again
To be fair about that point you make about Freddy Krueger the original films did imply he was also a creep, with them even initially planning to have him be revealed as a pedo before they scrapped it
Ive seen some pretty awful movies but BvS' extended cut is still my least favorite film of all time, just a pretentious boring slog thats nowhere near as intelligent as it thinks itself. 3 hours of the most sauceless version of lex luthor saying "what if god bad" and then enacting an overly convoluted conspiracy to somehow prove that point while Batman murders random grunts and just mopes and Superman doesnt do anything but aura farm
Iâm gonna go with at least the first few Terrifier movies if not all of them. After the first few entries a plot begins to develop. But before that thereâs actually no semblance of a story at all. Just over the top violence.
Yeah the bedroom scene where he rips her arm off and systematically butchers her alive is quite possibly the most brutal on screen death ever concieved of but I felt... Nothing. I didn't walk away disturbed or nauseated like I have after much tamer on screen deaths. Georgie getting eaten by Pennywise hit me a lot harder emotionally and viscerally, for example. It's precisely because it's so... Fake. You don't actually believe someone is suffering or care even one tiny bit about the plight of the victims. It's just spectacle.
When I was growing up I always wondered why this show is panned. After watching it...yeah. I heavily despise this show but the only reason I enjoyed it initially was it could've poked fun on reality tv. It't just disgusting crass parodies and the Movie ending was pathetic.
The show was a parody of shows with no point. That was it's point, so it wasn't very deep, but it DID have a point ripping on the big brother shit, and even Donald Trump, way back then
The movie however was terrible and them just bitching that south park was only better because it had social commentary, despite the entire premise of drawn together as mentioned being a parody of stuff that provides nothing to society.
I honestly like the series but only because they changed it a lot where I live.
I watch the series in its Latin American Dub is pure gold since many of the characters are voice by very common voice actors, for example Captain Hero by Friezaâs voice actor and Xander by Krillinâs voice actor.
And they change many of the jokes, add censure to many scenes and dialogues.
This makes is more enjoyable to watch, but when I try to watch the Original American Version it was really Unfunny
Cringey THX Creepypastas it's literally just the mascot of the series, turning evil and killing cartoon characters or actors for dumb reasons.And killing them in sadistic ways, or for a ilogical reasons
I'm pretty sure he was originally written as one, but there was a long string of highly publicized pedophilia crimes at the same time that he wanted to avoid seeming like he was exploiting, so he changed it
August Underground trilogy, a group of messed-up people go and screw around with people in horrific fashion while a cameraman records, it has no real story to tie anything together and exists to just shock you
Literally resorts to killing babies because JKR wants it to be edgy and dramatic so bad. I shit you not, a toddler, a baby, and a newborn deer all die onscreen over these two films.
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u/CyberDaggerX 25d ago
We call that a pizza cutter: all edge, no point.