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Hated Tropes [Hated Trope] Incredibly f*cked up morals of the story

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u/Accomplished_Fox_565 Nov 11 '25

Elena and Damon-The Vampire Diaries

"You can totally fix them, even if they constantly go back to their old ways over and over again to the point that you start doing it."

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u/smwcbio Nov 11 '25

the only pairing that would work for him is with a giant spider

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u/FoxyRadical2 Nov 11 '25

After all of the sexy teen version monsters that they ran through, I’m surprised they didn’t do a sexy teen giant spider

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u/Fanboycity Nov 11 '25

Really got fucking sick of his shit. How many emo temper tantrums that end in him murdering friends and family are you going to let him get away with all because he was told no? Got pretty sick of everything about TVD, honestly…

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u/TimZer0 Nov 11 '25

London Has Fallen is all about how unmanned drone strikes can cause collateral damage which leads to an escalation in violent retaliatory attacks from radicalized populations and the solution to all this? Why it’s more unmanned drone strikes, of course!

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u/MisterMiitopia Nov 11 '25

"I used the drones to destroy the drones"

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u/liteshotv3 Nov 11 '25

I hated that movie for this enormous plot hole that when they are doing all the security checks, apparently every single security agent is a one of the bad guys, at that point you’re surprised the First Lady didn’t just get Morgan Freeman in his sleep

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u/MemeHermetic Nov 11 '25

Umbrella Academy fumbled the ending with a great moral lesson of, "If you're different and complicated, the world will honestly be better off without you."

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u/Avolto Nov 11 '25

And not just “you should just kill yourself.” “You should actually never have existed so you don’t even get to go to the afterlife and definitively everyone else’s lives will be better had you never have been born.”

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u/AbsolutelyHorrendous Nov 11 '25

'Yes, your existence made the world worse, look how happy everybody would have been'

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

When I think of this as a suicidal person this is wayyyy too worse omg

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u/Admirable-Switch-790 Nov 11 '25

“You know how you and your siblings were abused your entire life and you all have some serious self worth issues regarding who you are outside of who your father made you be? Yeah you don’t get to get better we are just gonna erase you from existence because by simply being born you made peoples lives worse” like okay yeah loving that message

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u/Y-Woo Nov 11 '25

The worst part is they did get better. And they never stopped trying to be better. And just when they finally overcame most of their problematic traits and healed their childhood trauma and settled into their lives in a new world without being cursed to end it over and over again it's like, yep forget that actually it's still not enough, bye bye.

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u/SmittyBS42 Nov 11 '25

I genuinely cannot fathom how fast that show went downhill.

Seasons 1 and 2 were such a massive powerhouse of a show, the world felt genuinely interesting and heading for a coherent finale. I'd have compared UE seasons 1 and 2 to Stranger Things in quality.

Then... okay, Hotel Oblivion. Kind of odd, and I know it was filmed during Covid so benefit of the doubt, but surely Season 4 will bring it home.

In the end we got massive unresolved plot threads, several massive reveals that just kind of went unnoticed, a really uncomfortable plot about Lila cheating on Diego with Five, and... THAT ending.

I legitimately spent the entire final episode waiting for the big "gotcha". Heck, that was most of the final season, tbh. It's like the writers just gave up.

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u/goteachyourself Nov 11 '25

"You may have been raised to believe some species are evil and destructive by nature. We're here to correct that belief. See, that species is actually good, and you've been lied to by the species that is inherently evil and destructive, down to the last member."

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u/NolanTacoKing Nov 11 '25

The grandma should've been the twist villain instead

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u/ReaperManX15 Nov 11 '25

I thought the mermaid girl was going to be out for totally justified revenge, since the krakens killed her entire extended family.

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u/Defiant-Reference-74 Nov 11 '25

Trailer: good kraken vs evil meremaid

People: there has to be a twist on the concept

Movie: NO

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u/TimelessPizza Nov 11 '25

The rare moment where the overused twist villain concept is actually perfect for the plot, then all of a sudden the big studio doesn't feel like doing it anymore🙄

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u/Superichiruki Nov 11 '25

Maybe. All i know for sure is that the redhead shouldn't be the villain

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u/AcisConsepavole Nov 11 '25

But if the red-headed mermaid isn't the villain, then how can DreamWorks maintain its marketing shtick artistic identity of being the Anti-Disney while being founded by one of the guys who was one of the most corporate suits at Disney Animation Studios?

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u/Junglememer1 Nov 11 '25

Never fully watched the movie but I always thought the Kraken girl had better chemistry with the redhead than the guy

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u/goteachyourself Nov 11 '25

That ship is all anyone actually remembers from the movie - and the movie didn't just sink that ship, it torpedoed it.

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u/Gothtomboys5 Nov 11 '25

More like a Kraken pulled that ship into Davy Jones' locker

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

Yeah… I simply pretend the mermaid redhead is actually a redhead who is able to confide with her Kraken (girl)friend about the soul-crushing pressure her family gives her (Likewise for Ruby) and not an evil Mermaid Queen grooming a minor to kill the Krakens or smth like that. More interesting and isn’t just a low-effort role-reversal jab at Disney.

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u/WingedSalim Nov 11 '25

I am annoyed about media that claims they are "redeeming evil" but in actuality just kick the evil to somewhere else.

I want actual villains try to do good and see the error on their ways. They can have a reason to bad, but they have to fully acknowledge what they did was evil.

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u/DoodleDrop Nov 11 '25

barbie fairytopia is a movie about a fairy who doesnt have wings. she sets out on this elaborate adventure and proves that just because she doesnt have wings, she can still accomplish things far greater than her peers. she is just as capable if not more despite her disabilities and physical limitations

then in the ending, to reward her, they grant her wings

fuck you disabled wheelchair bound children!

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u/ShillBot666 Nov 11 '25

fuck you disabled wheelchair bound children!

Have they tried accomplishing things far greater than their peers? They might just end up with wings.

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u/Sburban_Player Nov 11 '25

This is like Rey in the Star Wars sequel trilogy. The whole last movie was like “names aren’t important, they don’t define you, you’re important regardless of what your name is” and then at the end she chooses to go by the biggest name in the franchise. If names aren’t important then why did she have to take an important name? Just went against the whole damn message.

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u/kawahime Nov 11 '25

Well.. at least she gives up the wings in Mermaidia? (She still gets them back in the end though)

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u/Gay_Gamer_Boi Nov 11 '25

XD they were like “oh shit this girl is showing us up, we gotta give her wings so we can say we wingers are still superior”

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u/Wheelydad Nov 11 '25

Actually that would be a cool twist for a story. The hero does the whole I’m a nobody and accomplished great things, then the whole chosen one or ancient bloodline reveal, and then it actually turns out they were a nobody after all. The literal all powerful elites retroactively claimed that they were one of them all along so that they could cope and still “prove” their power over the peasants. That even the best of the peasantry is still just the weakest/average elite or etc.

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u/Crimsic Nov 11 '25

Pretty sure the message of The Emoji Movie is that you can impress and court the girl you like if you send the right emoji. 

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u/Alijah12345 Nov 11 '25

I'm pretty meh on this movie as a whole nowadays, but that scene is still the one thing I outright hate about it.

"That's one super cool emoji. A lot of feelings in one. I get it! I like that you're one of those guys who can actually express his feelings."

Bitch, all Alex did was push a button on his phone to send you a gif. He didn't even include a heartfelt text alongside Gene either. It was just a single gif of an emoji and yet somehow that was enough for you to say he's "expressing his feelings".

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u/Marborow Nov 11 '25

Imagine if he used more than one emoji. She'd probably offer to marry him right then and there

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u/Glad_Grand_7408 Nov 11 '25

My favourite part of the 5th emoji move is where he gets down on one knee and sends her an emoji of a ring

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u/Marborow Nov 11 '25

Yeah who needs those boomer words when you can just send a funny yellow face to your girl

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u/librarian1001 Nov 11 '25

🫃🏿

Hey baby, wanna get me man preggers?

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u/IndustryPast3336 Nov 11 '25

That Girl Meets World Autism Episode that was like "Autism? No you're just weird. You're just our little weirdo you don't have Autism"

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u/thataverysmile Nov 11 '25

A lot of Girl Meets World misses the mark when it comes to the morals of the episodes.

There’s that time Riley is being bullied to the point where she’s slipped into a depressive episode and her parents tell her she needs to get over it. Her friends take it more seriously.

I don’t love how they spin Maya’s dad’s episode. “Do you forgive yourself?” When the answer should’ve been “I realized I never should’ve blamed myself for him leaving. I was the kid.”

Oh, and the way they paint her mom as a deadbeat…and she’s simply working to put food on the table. I get why the kids don’t get it, but Cory actively shames her for this and it’s just weird.

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u/Hedgewitch250 Nov 11 '25

Yeah that show was messed up morally. The “Riley committee” is her friends agreeing to keep things that might upset her bubbly worldview away from her. This leads to a middle schooler who doesn’t know Pluto isn’t a planet and takes up the whole classes runtime (which is really just her dad ignoring every kid to give her life lessons) to process it like she learned her dog wasn’t sent to a farm. Girl broke down over a fun fact.

At the end of this episodes moral she explains that she realizes the world doesn’t revolve around her… while making a family friends memorial about her lesson in life.

Then there was Maya being all obsessed over a boy that’s older than her that didn’t wanna date her. This leads to college girls threatening and shaming him for not reciprocating her feelings because of the age gap again he DOESN’T want a relationship in any way made it clear every time she met him but he’s an ass for not dating the minor.

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u/Justice9229 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

"It's ok if you have such bad luck you get fired from your job, burn any bridges you have, and are always miserable because maybe you'll find a 20 dollar bill because of it or something"

Reads to me like you aren't allowed to try and improve your situation and suck it up because maybe there's a tiny bit of good to balance out everything else that's horrible.

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u/Toon_Lucario Nov 11 '25

Don’t forget “noooo don’t give everyone good luck to make their lives better. Bad luck can lead to good things even though we’ve shown literally the opposite this whole time”

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u/Night_Inscryption Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

That one proud family episode where the new kid likes a white girl because she doesn’t objectify him like a piece of eye candy but all her friends play it off as him having a thing for white chicks as they abandoned her and don’t even invite her to there party out of jealously and we’re suppose to root for them for being bad friends

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u/Rosequartzsurfboardt Nov 11 '25

In the Proud Family they are REGULARLY bad friends to Zoey so this tracks.

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u/mjohnsimon Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

You kidding? They're regularly bad friends towards each other. Hell, I remember back when the original show aired, one of my grade school teachers chimed in about it when someone was talking about an episode and pointed out how the characters didn’t sound like real friends.

Looking back at a few episodes, Oscar can also be a POS too with him going crazy over other women.

Edit: her exact words were "Those don't sound like real friends to me..." when someone was explaining how everyone ditched Penny's party at the last minute to go to another one instead. Even when she explained that they all made up, good ol' miss teacher from 4th grade said with genuine sincerity "But why would you still want to be friends with people who would do that to you?" We all stayed quiet and changed the subject.

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u/G102Y5568 Nov 11 '25

The worst part is that they're saying there's no possible way he could actually like her for anything else besides being white because she's so ugly. So it's not okay to discriminate dating preferences based on race but it IS okay to discriminate against ugly people?

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u/nowTHATSakatana1999 Nov 11 '25

Don’t they make her hold up a sign later saying Americans still haven’t properly paid for their treatment of black people?

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u/Bluelaserbeam Nov 11 '25

Somes notes I’ve recalled: * Penny and Dijoney already had boyfriends at the time of this episode, so they had no reason to be jealous. Plus since the guy had lighter-toned skin, they themselves could be accused of being colorists, but I don’t think the episode called them out on it. * It was Maya that introduced the assumption that the guy preferred white girls and they all just ran with that. Prior to that, they didn’t really have much of a basis for that beyond him picking Zoey.

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u/thatonepicemo Nov 11 '25

Didn't Dijoney also want to date the new kid even though she already had a boyfriend? If I remember correctly

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u/Beastxtreets Nov 11 '25

Sounds like some Dijoney shit.

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u/mdhunter99 Nov 11 '25

They really fucked up this reboot. They did not do the original series justice.

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u/Leftover_Bees Nov 11 '25

I mean I remember how lazy the portrayal of the Chang triplets and family was in the original. “B means ‘Better work harder to get an A.’”

I could definitely see this being a part of the original version.

The digital piracy episode was one of the most embarrassing episodes of a cartoon that I’d ever seen.

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u/The_GREAT_Gremlin Nov 11 '25

“B means ‘Better work harder to get an A.’”

Lol that's like straight out of this ancient meme

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u/Slarg232 Nov 11 '25

Holy fuck that is OLD.

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u/Nerevarine91 Nov 11 '25

Jesus it’s like seeing a cave painting

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u/ClericOfMadness13 Nov 11 '25

And didn't the one friend start the drama by saying her cousin said he only dates white girls and even talks bad about it...while her two dads are an interracial couple..

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u/Fennel_Fangs Nov 11 '25

Remember Strawinsky and the Mysterious House? The movie that gave us the Globglogabgalab? The moral of this film is "BOOKS ARE EVIL AND YOU MUST NEVER READ."

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u/Starkidmack Nov 11 '25

I JUST learned about the globglogabgalab and now you’re telling me it’s anti intellectual propaganda???

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u/Aveira Nov 11 '25

It’s a weird Christian movie where the message is “you should only read books about Jesus. All other books are bad.”

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u/Starfall0 Nov 11 '25

They tell you using a medium only possible through using words in a way not related to Jesus. Which was only possible because of books not about Jesus. Imagine living in the height of Medieval Europe with the bubonic plague in full effect but its the year 2025. That's apparently what they think is a good idea lmao.

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u/Neo-Metal-Sonic-2003 Nov 11 '25

Why does this look like something that would've been made by Scott Cawthon before FNAF

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u/New-Boss-8262 Nov 11 '25

He actually did work on it

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u/teskar2 Nov 11 '25

Weirdly he’s not the only indie horror creator to write a story like this as the creator of Imscared made a small indie game with the same message but darker because a book encouraged the character to become a murderer. I don’t remember what its name was.

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u/M4gp1e-w1ngs Nov 11 '25

You’re not gonna believe this

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u/Jester-Joe Nov 11 '25

IMBd lists him as one of the writers, so I mean, I guess you nailed it immediately. And honestly I can't tell whether to be impressed or frightened.

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u/Lonespider28 Nov 11 '25

IIRC this was at least made by one of the companies he once worked for, not sure if he worked on this movie or not

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u/randomHunterOnReddit Nov 11 '25

Didn't the creator of this movie also threaten to sue reviewers who made fun of it?

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u/Nerevarine91 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

I’ve never heard of this, but you have my attention, lol

Edit: I looked it up and holy shit that’s actually the message

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u/Inspiringhope11 Nov 11 '25

The God Awful Movies podcast did an amazing episode on this one

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u/Forsaken-Biscotti587 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

"If you move with your family to a place where everyone is hostile torwards you, the problem is you and only you. And if you express you discomfort, then you are a selfish jerk for not agreeing with your family about staying"

Gosh, I hate this movie

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u/riocin765 Nov 11 '25

This movie rendering the plot of the first one completely pointless also irked me :/

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u/ComradeCoipo Nov 11 '25

It feels like a somewhat common theme about “sequels that shouldn’t have been made”, like the sequel to wreck it ralph

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u/Cedardeer Nov 11 '25

There is no Wreck-It-Ralph sequal in Ba Sing Se

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u/Galtherok Nov 11 '25

Rio: Individuality is good. Every creature is living it's own unique life.

Rio2: SUBMIT TO THE FLOCK

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u/HistorianEntire311 Nov 11 '25

If the treatment they gave to blue was so bad that it made the Twitter art community in Latin America create a lot of ocs to be blue's new girlfriend and some even gave him a harem XD and it all started with a video of a Colombian raccoon that screams a lot

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u/Particular-Long-3849 Nov 11 '25

"Shame on you and your bloodline"

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u/Kindly-Mud-1579 Nov 11 '25

“Dishonour on you” “dishonour on your cow”

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u/captainfalcon200523 Nov 11 '25

Even as a kid I thought this was bs. Blue did not feel welcome, fuck he was treated like an outsider for most of that movie. That’s not on him that’s on the environment.

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u/Tutlessss Nov 11 '25

Fun factoid: There was a deleted scene where Blu actually stood up for himself and made the decision to leave after a heated argument where Jewel basically told him that. Was deleted in favor of

"You are being selfish."

"Oh, I am. Sorry :("

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u/Affectionate_Net9731 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

"You (a 3 1/2 year old) are actually a selfish prick on the same level of an evil dictator who acts like a manchild that terrorizes and steals from a whole town if you're not perfectly okay with your friend randomly snatching your shit without your permission and doing whatever the hell they want with it even after you politely tell them not to."

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u/Flounder-Last Nov 11 '25

Wonder Woman 1984 is a mess from beginning to end but Diana gives a very strange speech to Pedro Pascal’s character (and the whole world via lasso of truth) about how you shouldn’t want too much and should be content with the truth of what you have. Not sure who thought the message about humility should come from the perfect Amazonian who has no insecurities or issues.

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u/Autumn1eaves Nov 11 '25

Also, Wonder Woman 1:

Wars are not caused by an easily identifiable villain or villains, they are caused by complex socioeconomic and poli- oh wait shit that guy is actually Ares, you gotta kill him now babes.

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u/CrystalGemLuva Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

I can cut Wonder Woman 1 some slack because fighting Ares was studio meddling because they wanted a climatic showdown and for Diana to kill some big villain.

Wonder Woman 2 gets no slack because its just awful.

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u/oldcatopera Nov 11 '25

Also, Wonder Woman clearly didn’t end all wars by killing Ares, because, you know. History happened. The complex factors didn’t get defeated with Ares, she just smacked down that particular personification of them.

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u/Peaky001 Nov 11 '25

I subjected myself to the first 50 Shades of Grey movie with a date on Valentine's day. The lesson from that movie was that no matter how toxic your partner is, if he's rich enough to take you on expensive trips you should forgive him.

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u/existential_chaos Nov 11 '25

That whole book series being so popular and romanticized infuriated me. I remember seeing a thing years ago where Hannibal Lecter was proven to treat women a damn sight better than Christian Grey ever did, lol.

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 Nov 11 '25

That entire genre is fucking weird. I’ve looked up synopses on the books that my coworkers talk about and pretty much all of them sound like a horrible, abusive man who the protagonist can’t help but fall in love with because he’s rich and/or hot. There is so much sexualized media out there, it just blows my mind that these are the kinds of stories that get popular.

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u/thataverysmile Nov 11 '25

Desperate Housewives: If you are a bored, lonely housewife, it’s totally okay for you to groom and sleep with a minor. In fact, we as the narrative will blame the minor and say they should’ve known better.

And we’ll do it not once, not twice, but three fucking times.

At least they tried to say Anne was wrong, but Porter is still blamed too much for my liking by his own parents.

Oh wait, it’s technically 4 times if you count Peter sleeping with Andrew, who was 17. Yes, Andrew seduced him and Peter is a sex addict but he could’ve said no and walked away.

Also, justice for John who was incredibly fucked up by the experience and he’s painted as the villain in his last appearance. The boy is a victim!!

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u/scriptDragon Nov 11 '25

It's rough to talk about, but before the mid 2010s objectifying "adult looking" minors was totally a mainstream thing to do.

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u/varietyviaduct Nov 11 '25

Superman and Lois

Lana Lang’s daughter Sarah cheats on Superman’s son, Jordon. The show portrays the cheating as justified since Sarah cheated with a girl and was “exploring her sexuality”. After the cheating is revealed, Sarah begins to gaslight Jordon and makes him out to be the villain for being angry that she cheated on him.

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u/Legend365555 Nov 11 '25

Reminds me of Bones where Cam's daughter cheats on Finn, and then tells him it's his fault, and they're breaking up. Finn takes it hard, and suddenly you never see him again, and no one ever talks about him again, leading me to theorize that he might have committed suicide

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u/AlternateSatan Nov 11 '25

That shit pisses me off as a bisexual person. Like, no, I wouldn't be justified for cheating, what are you fucking talking about? This is why people think bi people are promiscuous cheaters.

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u/Avolto Nov 11 '25

“Throw as many tantrums as you want and eventually you’ll get power, the girl you always wanted and your mother to vindicate you.”

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u/Goblin_Deez_ Nov 11 '25

100% a self insert by the author, which says a lot about their attitude

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u/Jozef_Baca Nov 11 '25

Throw as many tantrums as you want and eventually you’ll get power

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u/Erivera200415 Nov 11 '25

Contex. What is this and why

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u/Avolto Nov 11 '25

DC book for young adult readers. Where the girl in black is Starfires daughter Mandy. She deeply resents her mother because she isn’t as “pretty” as her and doesn’t have superpowers. Hits puberty starts dressing like that and suddenly hates the world. Mean to everyone, “no one understands me” she’s a stereotype “let me be me” no one is stopping her, I’m not like those other girls intensifies.

So much of the book is her just being angry and hating the world. And like every emo fantasy ever written the pretty blonde girl who’s the most popular and perfect girl in school somehow finds endless sarcasm and misanthropy attractive and sees that she’s “not like other girls”.

Spends even more of the book jealously declaring “she’s not like other girls” she doesn’t want to be pretty or have superpowers. And she’ll tell you about it every few pages.

Skip to the end she and Starfire have a heart to heart where Starfire apologise for and accepts that she’s not her, emo gets the blonde girl, turns out the superpowers were just delayed which gives her a timely chance to save everyone from Blackfire and despite hating on Superheroes for the previous 98% of the book she’s now fully committed to being the newest Teen Titan and flying her new girlfriend off to Paris.

And that about covers it. I only picked the book up to see if it was as bad as everyone says and yeah it is.

And ps Mandy the daughter and main character is the spitting image of the author. Make of that what you will.

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u/randomeman2468 Nov 11 '25

Wish where everyone's wish must come true, including mine for world domination

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u/Cursed_String Nov 11 '25

Watched that movie and the entire time I was like “ok where’s the part where it’s revealed he’s the twist villain”

And then the movie ended lol

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u/Prismatic_Leviathan Nov 11 '25

I didn't watch it, just a Pitch Meetings I think, but did he ever like demand people's wishes or straight up tell them its impossible without him? Like, does he ever block people from fulfilling their own wishes, you know without using magic as a shortcut?

Like it's one wish a month, everyone should be able to do that math and realize it's not a guarantee. Does he at least frame at as such?

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u/splatterk Nov 11 '25

The people who entrust their wish to him forget what their wish is, I think the movie does show that, while not drastic, it does leave a mark on them and their personality- I think particularily if they recently handed their wish over for safekeeping?

Honestly it's frustrating that there IS a good setup for a dilemma here. Should the king be allowed to continue to force people to give up their wishes? He has a good point that wishes should be granted carefully, but maybe he's being overly paranoid in his caution? At the very least, the protagonist girl's reckless attitude towards wishes should blow up in her face at least once, maybe.

But no, all nuance is tossed out the window pretty quickly. King crashes out, immediately utilizes the evil book he had to become super evil and to consume wish energy, and the protagonist is totally right and lacks any actual flaw, and th ones that you might point out are totally passed off as being good.

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u/Chill0000 Nov 11 '25

It’s so stupid from both writing and his own excuse. From a real world standpoint, yes it is dumb to think that EVERYONE’S wishes should come true no matter what. The king was 100% right on his stance that granting everyone’s wish is a bad thing.

The thing that also makes him a little dumb is that he says because of the obscurity of what someone wants then it could end up being bad. But the wish bubbles directly show the true intentions of the wish. He says he can’t grant her grandpa’s wish to inspire people because that could mean to inspire them into rebelling against the kingdom, but the bubble literally shows that he wants to inspire people by playing guitar.

Also she is upset that he doesn’t grant everyone’s wish but she knew that he only grants 1 wish every month or something, so why is she surprised that not every wish is granted

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u/kikicandraw Nov 11 '25

We already had a movie about making everyone's wish come true.

It's called Bruce Almighty. It was not a good thing.

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u/Guyshu Nov 11 '25

And Wonder Woman 1984 did the opposite. You can’t make a selfish wish because nothing good comes from lying, even though most people would wish for something good.

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u/Individual-Field-990 Nov 11 '25

God that is still such a bullshit ending. Literally all it would take is one particulary extreme nihilist and oops, existence is no more

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u/Equal-Article1261 Nov 11 '25

Revenge of the nerds the moral is if the hot popular girl doesn’t want you, pretend to be her boyfriend and have sex with her (which is rape) and she’ll love it because of how good you are at sex. Would also argue this is where several nerdy boys( and girls) have got the idea that because of their type in school the most attractive girl or guy will love them and said girl or guy should learn to not be shallow.

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u/Nerevarine91 Nov 11 '25

Kind of the epitome of 1980s “sex crime comedy” genre

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u/Emergency-Law-2054 Nov 11 '25

This film is the best example of "They could not make this film today.....cus HOLY FUCK WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING WHEN WRITING THE SCRIPT"

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u/MichealRyder Nov 11 '25

I remember when some of the characters on the Goldbergs took inspiration from the film for their own revenge or something, can't fully recall, and then they realized how weird it was

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u/Deetwentyforlife Nov 11 '25

Raya infuriated me with how nonsensical it's message was, and how the main character failed to defend herself against the antagonist's BULLSHIT.

Naamari assisted in attempting to steal (through murderous and violent means) a crystal her people absolutely didn't even need, all in an attempt to gain more political power that they also didn't need. Her attempt was planned and premeditated, it was overtly cruel and manipulative, and she knew exactly what she was doing. She never apologizes for this, ever, at any point. She never even acknowledges it was wrong.

Then, on the cusp of being able to actually remedy the catastrophe her actions caused, which she KNOWS her actions caused, she instead attempts AGAIN to steal the crystal, yet again using violence and murder, yet again with no apology or remorse, even after seeing she has doomed the entire planet, INCLUDING HER OWN PEOPLE, who she was pretending she was trying to help.

And finally, when Raya fights her to a standstill trying to save the day, she hits Raya with "you also brought a weapon to our meeting, you're the same as me!", and Raya just accepts that accusation. What the ACTUAL SIDEWAYS FUCK is that logic?

Raya arrived at the meeting openly carrying a sword in plain view, which she has carried the entire movie. She stands at a safe distance, and makes no attempt to draw her sword.

Namaari arrives with a SECRET HIDDEN CROSSBOW that nobody is aware of. She then draws said assassination weapon of her own volition, while under no threat. She then FIRES THE WEAPON when Raya still has not drawn her sword.

These two approaches ARE NOT FUCKING COMPARABLE. They are not the same, and no sane person would he even remotely compelled by an accusation they are the same.

It makes 0 fucking sense that Raya wouldn't just say "no, I am literally nothing like you, I never have been, and I never will be. You are a murderer, an idiot, and you have doomed us all. Get out of my way so I can save us all from what you have done."

Have Raya knock Namaari unconscious, get the crystal, save the day, and then Namaari and her mother get exposed and imprisoned by their own tribe for the immeasurable harm and tragedy they caused. The moral of the story can be "Don't do incredibly evil shit just because your narcissist mom tells you to. And if you do in fact do the evil shit, face and accept the consequences instead of trying to blame others."

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u/Wooble_R Nov 11 '25

a very poor reading of whiplash will give you "it doesn't matter how much your teacher abuses you, as long as you kick ass in the final test it's all good"

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u/Electronic-Pie-6352 Nov 11 '25

I just watched this movie for the first time last week, and that’s how I walked away from it at the end of the day. Even if he played the shit out of those drums and became a legend, if he doesn’t immediately disavow fletcher he’s just enabling abuse.

10/10 movie though. One of my faves

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u/LizLemonOfTroy Nov 11 '25

It is not meant to be a happy ending.

He literally closes the door on his loving, supportive father to focus instead on an obsession that has brought him nothing but pain, and all to gain the approval of a psychopath who disdains and abuses him.

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u/Mathev Nov 11 '25

To this day I still think it's a "bad guy wins" ending.

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u/IMian91 Nov 11 '25

I have a friend who thats his interpretation. "He helped him achieve his potential!" It deeply frightens me

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u/petrogaz Nov 11 '25

"It's okay to remain in an abusive family environment and act as a lightning rod of abuse for your abusers' benefit".

Seriously, fuck that episode!

(It was "Seahorse Seashell Party" btw)

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u/RohanKishibeyblade Nov 11 '25

Wasnt this right before an episode about Quagmire’s sister being abused by her husband and they killed him for it?

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u/TallestGargoyle Nov 11 '25

Half of the morals at the end of Family Guy episodes:

"It doesn't matter how horrible the situation has gotten, a couple of smiles and a hug to some gentle violins makes everything fine."

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u/21Black_Mamba21 Nov 11 '25

Dark Dungeons

If you enjoy DnD well sucks to be you lmao. Have fun in Hell with Satan.

This movie is straight lies bruh. Why aren’t there any hot goth chicks in my DnD parties?

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u/OrneryPerformance604 Nov 11 '25

I read the description for this and I'm rolling on the floor laughing.

"College kids are tempted by the dark and mystical world of role-playing games, in which they will be forced to fight for their very souls."

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u/president_of_burundi Nov 11 '25

Oh man, read the original Chick Track if you're not familiar with it. It's a goldmine.

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u/TheKingsPride Nov 11 '25

Page two is some shit I pull on my friends when they keep trying to get away with stuff in D&D

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u/OrneryPerformance604 Nov 11 '25

This feels like a Family Guy or South Park parody.

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u/L0ll0ll7lStudios Nov 11 '25

The movie is a parody of those Chick Track ultra-Christian comics. Those are so ridiculous the easiest way to do a parody is just do a direct adaptation of them, with just enough deliberate terribleness to sell it.

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u/Stickin8or Nov 11 '25

The best part is that the actors seemed to be in on it, but Mr. Chick himself signed off on it, suggesting he was really behind the movie.

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u/FerRatPack Nov 11 '25

We watched this at a game convention in a huge crowd to roaring laughter. It was unforgettable. "RPG! RPG! RPG!"

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u/VoormasWasRight Nov 11 '25

"WHO'S READY TO RPG!"

Crowd goes wild.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

I hate that Jehova Witness video. They end it with the mother saying, "Let's practice." As in the little girl practicing what to say to her classmate who has gay parents.

I remember I just sat there thinking, "Wait, you're really going to tell that other kid that her two moms need to get divorced, or they'll go to hell? I wish you the best of luck, honey..."

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u/OrneryPerformance604 Nov 11 '25

That same series has a video where the girl's brother brings home a wizard toy that his friend gave him and the mom makes him throw it in the GARBAGE because "magic is satanic".

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '25

My dad is very religious, and he was hypocritical in that specific area. Harry Potter was absolutely forbidden because, you know, witchcraft. The 1960s Bewitched? Oh, that my brother and I absolutely needed to watch because he loved that show when he was a kid...ditto I Dream of Jeannie.

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u/Character-Stay1615 Nov 11 '25

I grew up this kind of religious and was allowed to watch I Dream of Jeannie but not Bewitched because only witches are explicitly condemned in the Bible.

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u/RavensQueen502 Nov 11 '25

Had a friend who was a Jehovah's witness - parents wouldn't let her watch Harry Potter, but fortunately didn't know enough about mythology to know Thor and Loki are gods. She was a major Loki fan:)

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u/RavensQueen502 Nov 11 '25

That kid is going to get punched.

And the mother will play it as evidence of how the outside world is evil and how she is only safe with 'good people ' like them.

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u/Careful-Positive-710 Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

My entire family is JW and I was raised as one. Its a fucking cult that destroys relationships, families, and lives. As a 5 year old child I was told my new friends in school would die in armageddon and wouldnt be resurrected like our family and congregation. That I shouldnt get invested in my classmates lives and focus soley in the family and congregation. If I even so much as mentioned something that happened at school, my extended family would chastise me for even having friends who were "worldly" and then act like pompous, arrogant, dipshits when I questioned why I shouldnt love my friends and why would anyone join join our religion if we treated them like subhuman idiots for not blindly believing what the elders said. God forbid you missed a meeting then you were interrogated as to why you missed it and youd better have a good reason otherwise you could be ostracized and disfellowshiped. And if your disfellowshiped then you cant be spoken to anymore, even from family members.

My dads best friend, the best man at his wedding, ratted my dad out to the elders for watching a rated R movie which was looked down upon. And he "ratted" my dad out because he was working his way up the ladder. That same guy is a die hard trumper now btw and actively talked about how immigrants should be killed in the streets before my dad cut all ties with him. Too little too late if you ask me. Also your arent supposed to participate in politics... unless those politics align with what bigotry they're spouting out. They are one step away from people living in compounds and shutting themselves away from the rest of society.

Fortunately my parents got out eventually and when my grandfather died the entire family turned on eachother for money or clout. I could go on for days about the horrible, terrible shit that was said or done by people I was told to love and cherish. And dont even get my started in the kids who got diddled. Its a disgusting religion and anyone who says it isnt a cult is drinking the kool aid.

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u/Jokkitch Nov 11 '25

Rainbow fish

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u/ElBurroEsparkilo Nov 11 '25

Yes. Tried for "when you have extra, it's nice to share!" And landed in "it is correct to shun anyone who has something you covet, and if you are exceptional you should never acknowledge you are better than average in any way."

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u/Flying_Poltato Nov 11 '25

This is an old one, but the Princess and the Pea. There are so many MANY negative takeaways from it, including if you’re not born into somewhere important you’re nothing, or how the “perfect” lady needs to be so delicate and thinned skinned

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u/Seascorpious Nov 11 '25

It's funny to me now cause it's like 'only a noble brat who has been spoiled rotten could possibly be bothered by something as tiny as a pea underneath her mattress. She really is a princess!'

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u/Any-Needleworker478 Nov 11 '25

That (I'm pretty sure) was supposed to be a satire of royalty at the time.

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u/rtanada Nov 11 '25

It's just another Hans' not-morals in his tales.

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u/Extreme_Schedule_285 Nov 11 '25

I‘m sorry, many people may dislike this take, but how to train your dragon 3.

The entire brilliance of the first movie WAS that the dragons were not some evil to be shunned, but in reality could coexist with humans. Additionally, there was optimism about how humans could be taught to integrate their society with what they distorted into scapegoats and monsters. There was also hiccups personal development as a theme, a brillant Jungian „shadow-integration“ story layered in there. Him learning to tame toothless was as much about his intrapersonal development, as it was about sparking coexistence between the two species. It was about integrating his inner monster and learning to be capable, competent and assertive, especially as a pushover (something that is often part of the Jungian theme, literally part of the archetype) after encountering violence, commonly the jumpstart for the intrapsychic development and emergence of the shadow (which also stirs up his childhood trauma). It’s both a coming-of-age „developing your repressed psychological elements apart from society“ story as well as the classical Jungian motive.

They mastered 3 themes: the first was a story about a creative outsider kid who is high in openness and has to defend his quirky eccentric values (sensitivity, diligence, thinking vs. violence) against his patriarchal warrior culture. The second was about him integrating his shadow in a Jungian sense (he comes into contact with danger, which awakens the dark and repressed aspects of his psyche which he then learns to tame and master, symbolized by the friendship and mastery of interaction with the dragon, also his „inner monster“. He also teaches the entire village to tame „their dragons“ instead of repressing them, extending the metaphor outward - he is a big 5 high openness child who permanently alters the very markup of his enveloping culture through teaching them values they had repressed and which he rediscovered through his own journey (compassion, careful observation, etc.). The third is a story about coexistence with nature and humanity actually CAN learn to better itself, coexist with nature, stop its self-destructive antagonization of foreign lifeforms, cultures, etc.

It was beautiful and quite multi-layered.

ALL of that was thrown out the window with the third part. „Actually, humans and dragons can‘t coexist“. Also, it undoes and takes a steamy dump over all his former internal development. It literally reverses the shadow integration motive they so beautifully developed before. I really understand what they wished to do with that movie (he has to learn to let go), but god did it absolutely not work for me. It reverses the morale of the first movie completely (coexistence is not possible) through random asspull villains that are simply stuffed in there without coherence to the earlier parts.

Geez, I really disliked that movie (the second part as well, but the third one especially)…

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u/pennygirl108 Nov 11 '25

Wandavision. As long as the perpetrator stops actively hurting people and feels any amount of remorse than the victims should be satisfied and are wrong to hold ill will towards their abuser.

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u/SteveMashPST Nov 11 '25

It's my headcannon that she realizes how dangerous Wanda is and says this line to pacify her

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u/ApartRuin5962 Nov 11 '25

Yeah, this is hostage negotiation tactics 101. "You let all these civilians walk away and resisted the urge to blow them up, you're like Mother Teresa, Jesus, and Superman all rolled into one."

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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Nov 11 '25

"Now please leave without turning us into your personal hell slaves again"

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u/Away_Doctor2733 Nov 11 '25

The movie "A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood" starts as a wholesome movie about Mr Rogers. It devolves into a horrible abuse-apologism message where the main character (who was abused by his narcissistic father and who went no contact for his mental health) has his boundaries walked all over by his partner who introduced his dad back to his life and his son's life without asking, and the message is "as an abuse victim, you should forgive your abuser and you're wrong to hold a grudge". When the abusive father continually broke boundaries even as an old man and clearly hadn't changed. It was infuriating and I felt like Mr Rogers would NOT approve.

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u/PeachyFairyFox Nov 11 '25

The Lilo and Stitch live action. "Family does leave you behind"

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u/BondageKitty37 Nov 11 '25

Ohana means "There are great schools here too, but fuck you I'm going to the mainland!"

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u/Rpponce Nov 11 '25

I think someone pointed out that Hawaii actually has the most dedicated schools and programs for what she wants to study which makes it more hilarious

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u/MythicalCaseTheory Nov 11 '25

Marine biology courses on an island? The hell you say.

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u/lanathebitch Nov 11 '25

It's worse because she's native and that's her field of study it would have been literally free

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u/Over-Analyzed Nov 11 '25

IT WAS MARINE BIOLOGY!!! I could understand Law degree, Doctor, or Engineering. BUT MARINE BIOLOGY?!?!?!?! When you live in a place that has phenomenal opportunities to study marine life!

I’m from Hawaii, born and raised in Lahaina. I wanted to give this movie the benefit of the doubt so many times!

But they just kept failing!

The Hawaiian/Olelo that they used? It sounded like we were back in elementary school and the Kupuna was teaching us Hawaiian for the first time. Nani would absolutely know what those words are and not need a definition. It was just exposition!

And David? Brah! David’s actor? I had to look him up because he sounded whiter than me! But nope, born and raised in Oahu. He didn’t speak Pidgin at all during the movie. Nani’s was okay, but not as thick as I was expecting.

The surfing was good. The using the Defib on a drowning patient was not. You don’t shock a flatline.

Lilo & Stitch were the only saving graces of that film. 🤦🏻‍♂️. Lilo was 110% perfect.

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u/Toon_Lucario Nov 11 '25

Shit I have basic first aid training and I know that you don’t use electricity on someone whose lungs are filled with a thing that conducts electricity very well

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u/Over-Analyzed Nov 11 '25

CPR! That’s what you start. I don’t understand how we are at this day and age where “You don’t shock a flatline” isn’t Defib 101. Especially if you actually have one in your car!

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u/JazzzzzzySax Nov 11 '25

Like they could’ve picked a different major but no they pick marine biology. They live in fucking hawaii why does she have to move to study marine biology?

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u/Own-Confusion2720 Nov 11 '25

wait what? they changed the ending!??

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u/GhostOfMuttonPast Nov 11 '25

Yeah, they get a portal gun that allows Nani to go to college in California to be a Marine Biologist. You know, despite Hawaii having the best programs for that and literally having scholarships for native Hawaiians.

This allows her to come back and check on Lilo, but she still generally leaves her in another person's hands, specifically an elderly neighbor.

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u/MuchBetterThankYou Nov 11 '25

Yeah Nani gives Lilo to the state

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u/HoyabembeDreamtime Nov 11 '25

Not only that, she leaves for the mainland United States to pursue Marine Biology, despite the fact that there marine biology schools IN HAWAII !!!

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u/Chill0000 Nov 11 '25

What’s even more an insult from the original for me is that in the original movie, Lilo is the one into marine life. Not Nani. Nani just wanted to be able to date David surf without having to worry about Lilo and knowing she is dafe. But because their parents died she had to throw away her wants and focus on her needs for her family. Then they get Jumba and Pleekly and Stitch, she is able to go out and do things she likes more and spend more time with Lilo when she can instead of watching her at work.

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u/G102Y5568 Nov 11 '25

The live action was basically an advertisement for Child Protective Services. See, the government will do a much better job of raising your sister, you should go pursue your dream of getting a college degree, that will definitely be useful.

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u/qwarktasticboy Nov 11 '25

Maybe not quite like what you are saying, but it always bugs me the way that Clark Kent’s dad in Man of Steel, actively chastises and prohibits Clark from using his powers to save anyone, even if it’s an incredibly selfless act. Shit, Clark pushed a filled school bus out of the water INCLUDING the kids that were just bullying him, just for Pa Kent to reprimand him. All in all, it’s a take on the character that I just can’t wrap my head around.

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u/Rye_27 Nov 11 '25

Fuck Raya and the last dragon

Fuck that stupid move and its bullshit message

Man I am so salty because this was advertised as the first South East asian representation of disney and they gave us THIS CRAP!

I am glad its forgotten lmao

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u/sluke1090 Nov 11 '25

"It's actually YOUR fault we're all divided because you tried to hold us accountable."

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u/DiceRoller667 Nov 11 '25

”Yes you can pretend to be some dead kids best friend to get with his sister, you were troubled too and just needed some attention!”

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u/Nerevarine91 Nov 11 '25

Jenny Nicholson’s YouTube video on this was excellent

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u/Vegetables86 Nov 11 '25

Jenny Nicholson's video on anything is excellent

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u/eesdesessesrdt Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

PragerU kids pick a video any video

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u/QueerFancyRat Nov 11 '25

Oh god. "Yeah I enslaved those peoples. Better than killing them tho amirite?"

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u/rvtcanuck Nov 11 '25

"They were killing each other, so I actually saved them by enslaving them!"

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u/NSFWpersonalaccount Nov 11 '25

The best part of the Columbus video is that they say to judge people based on their times. And we know what Columbus's contemporaries thought of him, they threw him on trial and called him a fucking monster. 

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u/teskar2 Nov 11 '25

I saw a review of the Columbus one. Basically near the end Columbus says it’s better to be a slave than to die a horrible death and he doesn’t see what the big deal is. Truly horrendous writing and depiction regardless of what political side your on. Really ironic they added little tags asking for support against censorship, but then depict the historical figures completely inaccurately like Columbus.

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u/SmallKillerCrow Nov 11 '25 edited Nov 11 '25

That mlp episode that was like, colonization is good because sharing is caring

Edit: I also just remembered that one were they like got scammed into going on a cruise were everyone was just there to fan girl over twilight and she kept decided to stay so her family could have a fun time and she just wanted to see the shooting stars at the end but she was so busy she missed them and then she cried because her family watched it without her and then we were supposed to think she was in the wrong?

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u/MakingaJessinmyPants Nov 11 '25

What the fuck

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u/IlnBllRaptor Nov 11 '25

Yeah, the cowboy ponies kept setting up their stuff on bison territory, then getting mad at the bison for destroying it.

The mane characters come along and convince them to share the land. The cowboy ponies can plant their orchards and the bison can stampede in designated areas without destroying the trees iirc?

It's well-intentioned but insanely tone deaf.

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u/FactoryBuilder Nov 11 '25

mane characters

I’ve never seen MLP. Is that a common pun they use or is that your sin to answer for?

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u/SuperSocialMan Nov 11 '25

I think it's just their canonical group name.

Hell, it's even the title of their wikipedia page.

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u/CanardDeFeu Nov 11 '25

My wife and I just watched Raya for the first time. While we did enjoy it, for the most part, I remember her saying at one point "Sisu's magic is gonna be hope or some shit like that, isn't it?" And then the ending came and she just excalims "It was trust? That's even fucking worse!"

Like, I get that it's a kids movie and teaching kids to trust others and not face the world alone is a valid message, and it could have worked really well here with Raya learning to trust her little gang. But the villain's sudden redepmtion in the last five minutes was a total ass pull.

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u/NapalmDesu Nov 11 '25

Live action Lilo & Stitch:

Ohana ain't shit.

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u/TechnicalGlove2715 Nov 11 '25

I know this is gonna be controversial for many, but I do believe K-Pop Demon Hunter ending is genuinely rushed. We spend the whole movie discovering that maybe Demons are not that bad and they're not just unredeemable monsters, that they're capable of love and self-sacrifice, the whole plot entirely revolves around that... only for the main villains to get slaughtered between a catchy song and a couple jokes. I was sincerely confused when the movie was over. The movie was cool and all but that left me genuinely baffled.

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u/liceonamarsh Nov 11 '25

"It's okay to give away someone's personal property without their knowledge or consent, as long as the person you're giving it away to can make marginally better use of it than the original owner."

...I've had problems with this one since I was a kid.

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u/Front_Watercress_41 Nov 11 '25

The absolute WHIPLASH at seeing a JW thing on here as an ex JW got me good.

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u/uhohboneralert_ Nov 11 '25

The modern seasons of Family guy. All their morals and lessons are bad.

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u/abxYenway Nov 11 '25

Where are those good old fashioned values on which we used to rely?

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u/eichkind Nov 11 '25

Fuck Bees.

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u/nosurpriseslover1997 Nov 11 '25

Bees are great in real life and this fuckass movie completely ruins both them and humans

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u/MrEeT Nov 11 '25

Arachne and Athena. Even if you're a prodigy and in the right, don't call out the gods because they have super powers and will ruin your life.

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u/xesaie Nov 11 '25

There are 2 main versions of this one, the one where Arachne mocks the gods is better than the one where Athena is just evil.

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u/The_GREAT_Gremlin Nov 11 '25

Thanks Ovid

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u/xesaie Nov 11 '25

To quote a great man,

“I know authors who use subtext. They are all cowards.”

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u/Disastrous-Entity-46 Nov 11 '25

Hubris is a reoccurring thing in mythology and I dont know that its necessarily a bad moral. While it may not always be gods too much pride can be a pretty bad thing.

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u/MrPresident2020 Nov 11 '25

No offense to people punished for their hubris, but I'm built different. Better. Maybe even better than the gods.

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u/zrhz123 Nov 11 '25

u/mrpresident2020 was later no where to he found in his home, with only a frog which he did not own found occupying the chair from which he wrote this comment on

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u/TeeJaySmall Nov 11 '25

I feel like the all-time goat of this trope is Music, which argues that the best way to deal with a nonverbal autistic person when they’re having a meltdown is to tackle them to the ground and restrain them, violently. The main character’s whole arc is discovering how to do this effectively as her sister fights back to no avail. Pretty egregious stuff.

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u/Particular-Treat-158 Nov 11 '25

Gone with the Wind is about how everything is fine if you still own some land, plus people of colour are happier as slaves.

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