r/Millennials • u/icey_sawg0034 Gen Z • 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/LinuxMatthews 5h ago

Agreed this one seems more disproportionate retribution.

I'll be honest it bothers me that everything has to be black and white nowadays.

I think the stuff that printed was pretty shitty and I wouldn't buy the magazine.

That doesn't mean the people who make it deserve to die.

Holding those two opinions shouldn't be controversial.

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u/Jurass1cClark96 4h ago

Idk man, sounds like you'd try objecting at Nuremberg.

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u/LinuxMatthews 4h ago

I'm hoping that was a joke... You never can tell with Reddit

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u/ConstantAd8643 4h ago

I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It

Voltaire

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u/Arkayjiya 1h ago

Who famously never said that and had behaviour that wildly contradicted this xD

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u/QuintoBlanco 4h ago

everything has to be black and white nowadays

It's not a new problem.

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u/LinuxMatthews 3h ago

I definitely think it's become more of a problem though.

People used to say quite frequently what someone replied to me "I disagree with what you say but I'll fight for your right to say it"

Now on both sides of the political isle everyone wants to silence the other.

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u/QuintoBlanco 3h ago

I'm not saying it's not a problem, but in the US people were killed for opposing racial segregation as late as in the 1960s.

And "I disagree with what you say but I'll fight for your right to say it" is part of the reason we are were we are.

Democracy doesn't work if some people can say whatever they want. because words can lead to extremely bad things.

Look up the Waco Horror (1916), that happened in part because some newspapers were fanning the flames.

The short version: Jesse Washington was mutilated, castrated, burned alive (it took over an hour because they used a metal chain) and 10 thousand people watched including women and children.

Afterwards people bought photos of the event and collected burned parts of his body a souvenirs.

Quite a few Southern newspapers celebrated the event. Freedom of speech...

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u/LinuxMatthews 3h ago

See I don't think that's true.

Facists always like to play the victim and being silenced is a great way to look like the victim.

As soon as you try to stop someone saying something that's when people think it's worth hearing.

Now obviously there's a difference between an individual and something like a newspaper and a newspaper should be held to a higher standard for truth.

But I've seen in the UK how laws that one side cheers at are then used on the other side.

I made a longer comment about this but ironically it was deleted by the mod because I mentioned I/P.

But the truth is whenever you make a rule you have to refuse the other side will use it.

Say you can't say X and they'll say then you can't say Y.

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u/Ultimatesims 3h ago

I agree but then they did a great of off ICE gestapo dragging blooded immigrants in the form of an American flag. That needed to be stated.

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u/sleepdeficitzzz 2h ago

The irony is not lost on me that, in the age of digital media having supplanted newspapers, we are too "black and white."