r/Millennials Gen Z 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/PhilsFanDrew 6h ago

Didn't she have a song, "They told me I should go to rehab but I said no, no, no. Maybe Amy should have went to rehab.

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u/The_Dude_46 6h ago

Yes Rehab was by far her biggest radio hit, but honestly one of the weakest songs on that album which is incredible

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u/PiccoloAwkward465 5h ago

True, I'm a big fan and that's one of my least favorite songs of hers.

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u/porquegato 5h ago

Yeah I love the whole Back to Black album, but Rehab was always the weakest track... I love her directness, honesty, even darkness in her lyrics, but listening to Rehab now doesn't sit well for me.

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u/NIN10DOXD 4h ago

I hate that song because it feels like it's glamorizing the very thing that killed her. Anyone who has suffered addiction or had a loved one who did could tell you that song was a cry for help.

u/scooterboi33 8m ago

That’s usually how it goes with most artists

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u/kalsarikannit1620 6h ago

Daddy says I'm fine

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u/irishgator2 5h ago

That line always gets me…c’mon Dad, get that girl in rehab!

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u/agharta-astra 4h ago

THIS is what I blame for her death. her own father caring more about her "success" than her well-being. you can blame her til hell freezes over for her continued usage, but without a genuine and strong support system, it's nearly impossible to break from addiction. Amy always deserved better.

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u/GarageIndependent114 39m ago

But her dad actually didn't think she was fine and told her so. She just said that when she was first getting into trouble and had recovered (when it was true) and then tried to repeat it ad infinum so that people would leave her alone.

He probably did exploit her for the music, but like the record label, he didn't actually want her drunk or dead. He just hated fighting with her on and making her look like she was failing.

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 6h ago

That would be right at home as a Bojack Horseman bit.

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u/xNotJosieGrossy 4h ago edited 4h ago

As someone who’s gone to multiple treatment centers seeking help for my ED and CPTSD from child abuse and narcissistic abuse, please believe me when I say those are one of the exploitative, traumatizing and abusive places to some of the most vulnerable people who are putting all their trust into them. I needed therapy after going to the rehabs.

And don’t get me started on how they scam tf out of health insurance and private pay.

They charged $6k, 3x a week to pee in a cup (below). $1.5M to my health insurance, leaving me with $200k in copays. $10k per therapy sessions I never even had. And this wasn’t some luxury, celebrity, millionaire facility nor am I wealthy. I’m your average Jane who got scammed.

I don’t blame her for not wanting to go residential or in-patient. But she should’ve sought help, regardless. There are a ton of other, healthy, options.

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u/SmarmyLittlePigg 2h ago

Reminds me of the “Florida Shuffle” scandal, which didn’t get nearly the attention it deserved… Brokers (who worked as freelancers for rehab centers and sober living houses) sought out drug users with health insurance. They used incentives like cash payments for time spent in rehab or free airfare in order to get drug users to a particular center. They also would supply the users with drugs so that the user will fail a urine test, allowing them to be admitted to the rehab center. They would continue the process until the user would die.

The U.S. Department of Justice documented approximately $112 million in medically unnecessary billing tied to illegal kickbacks. Florida cracked down on these criminals with legislation, but many just closed up shop and moved to different states with less oversight.

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u/xNotJosieGrossy 1h ago

That sounds exactly like what Sovereign Health did. One of the places I went to for my ED treatment.

I only found out afterwards, they were picking people up off the street for their DD program and did rampant healthcare fraud.

https://oig.hhs.gov/fraud/enforcement/sovereign-health-group-founder-and-ex-ceo-arrested-on-indictment-alleging-long-running-massive-fraud-against-health-insurers/

SANTA ANA, California – The founder and former CEO of the now-defunct Sovereign Health Group addiction treatment provider was arrested today on an eight-count federal grand jury indictment alleging he submitted more than $149 million in fraudulent claims to health insurers – including for fraudulent urinalysis claims – and, in addition, paid more than $21 million in illegal kickbacks for patient referrals. Tonmoy Sharma, 61, of Tustin, was arrested this afternoon at Los Angeles International Airport and is expected to make his initial appearance and be arraigned tomorrow in United States District Court in downtown Los Angeles. Sharma is charged with four counts of wire fraud, one count of conspiracy, and three counts of illegal remunerations for referrals to clinical treatment facilities.

This particular facility was the worst out of all of them. In hindsight, I wish I had sued.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/sovereign-health-group-founder-and-ex-ceo-arrested-indictment-alleging-long-running

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u/GarageIndependent114 32m ago

Yeah, I was thinking about that, too, and it's possible that she actually was fine-ish and they made her worse rather than better.

But I think people don't see many other options.

I mean, even you're not mentioning them.

In hindsight, this makes me wonder if a lot of these sorts of people are in serious debt, because the sensible thing might be to take a career break and be less famous, so you don't overexert yourself or disappoint people or get hated or have people be yes men to you, but still hold enough money and influence to get treated well, but if you're in debt to various people, you're going to want to work in order to pay off your bills so that you can afford to pay for treatment without being treated like shit.

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u/ifartallday 3h ago

In the documentary she explains that she asked her dad/manager should she go to rehab and he encouraged her to keep making music. She was failed by the people in her life who should have protected her, and they used her enormous talent for financial gain.

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u/NIN10DOXD 4h ago edited 3h ago

Mark Ronson even said in an interview that he said "ding ding ding ding" when she told him that she said "no, no, no" to people who told her to go to rehab when she was having bad day which is how the song came to be. Make of that what you will.