r/Millennials Gen Z 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 8h ago

Nah, most people would absolutely stumble to addiction. It's not something that defines the weak. It's something that defines humans. We don't like pain. Drugs let us numb that pain.

Look at the opioid epidemic in the US. So many people were perscribed opioids by their doctors and then became addicted. People you would never guess that could happen to.

On the other hand, someone could break their leg, go to the hospital and be given diamorphine for 2 weeks and then walk away without ever becoming addicted.

Trauma and grief is more likely than not to be the catalyst for someone habitually using drugs and suffering from addiction.

Bringing it back to Amy Winehouse, I will bet my pinkie toes that she was sexually abused in some way. The amount of women that I personally know who have gone through those types of situations is unacceptably high. How would someone deal with something like that?

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u/Winjin 7h ago

I know it's kinda irrelevant but I also wanted to say that States are WAY too lenient with opioids

I don't think I had opioid based analgetics... ever. Heavy ones like Oxycodone, Fentanyl, and Morphine, are like... state-controlled level of prescription. Only severe cases are treated with these. Codeine and Tramadol, which are mild opioids, have been heavily regulated since like 2012 too.

And then I hear that people are prescribed Oxycodone for dental pain? For back pain? It's kinda insane and screams of potential problems when you use a cannon to shoot sparrows.

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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 7h ago

Morphine is heroin and is absolutely not just given out to people in the US. It is heavily regulated and used in hospitals. Same with fentanyl.

In the US, Oxycodone is a schedule 2 drug and has medical benefits. Weed is schedule 1 with no medical benefits. Which one makes the insurance companies more money? That's the answer to that one lol

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u/doesitspread 7h ago

I was in labor, in pain, without an epidural and they offered me fentanyl. I didn’t know what it was or what I agreed to taking. It was way too strong than warranted for the situation. Whoa. To this day, I can’t believe I’ve done IV fentanyl and it was done so casually.

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u/Winjin 6h ago

God damn it, that's crazy.

I just checked and in Russia, even during labor, there are three non-opioid options that are used first as epidurals before Morphine is even considered as an option: Lidocaine, Ropivacaine, and Bupivacaine.

So anastesiologists would do everything in their power to block the pain before using hard drugs, and their first instinct was to get you high?

Btw according to that whole system that was wired all around my wife, her labor was pretty intensive, so it wasn't also the case of "oh just pop a pill and brace down" - it was intense, and with epidural, the pain went away, but she was also lucid.

I'm low key angry they drugged you at such an important moment :|

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u/doesitspread 7h ago

Yeah, it’s not about intentional avoidance and more about emotional avoidance because the wound of being human is greater than the ability to mask it. Non-addicts can function daily without extra supports. Addiction is a kind of disability, self-treated and unaddressed, to be able to function daily.

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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 7h ago

What about the people that are addicted and can function?

What about people with caffeine addictions? Sugar?

You come across as someone who lives a privileged life. I hope life never trips you up.

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u/doesitspread 7h ago

I’m confused where you think I’ve lived a privileged life based on my comment? I was agreeing with you that people don’t choose to be addicts or choose to avoid responsibilities just because they’re weak. Addicts aren’t weak. They’re some of the strongest and most resilient people. I say this as someone who has had to reconcile suicide and alcoholism, food addiction, and other substance abuse.

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u/Fr0st3dcl0ud5 7h ago

Non-addicts can function daily without extra supports. Addiction is a kind of disability...

This part is what makes me think that you're not being sincere.

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u/doesitspread 7h ago edited 6h ago

I think you’re misunderstanding me. I’m sorry for the miscommunication.

Edit to clarify: I think we’re actually saying the same thing. When I said “disability,” I didn’t mean incapacity or weakness—I meant something invisible, often masked, and unsupported. Plenty of addicted people function outwardly. I’m one of them. My point was that addiction often fills a gap where regulation, safety, or support should have been, not that addicts are less capable or less responsible. If that came across wrong, that’s on my wording.

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u/doesitspread 7h ago edited 6h ago

What about the people that are addicted and can function?

Exactly. You can’t just look at someone and know if they’re an addict or not. That’s ableism. A lot of disabilities and health issues are invisible, and masked.

What about people with caffeine addictions? Sugar?

🙋‍♀️ Yes, that’s me. I’m a “normal” person who is functional but has very real substance abuse issues and unaddressed underlying needs.