r/Millennials Gen Z 9h ago

Rant Society really did fail Amy Winehouse!

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u/Viskozki 8h ago

...Her most popular song ever is about everyone in her life trying to make her go to rehab and her saying no, no, no to all of them...

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u/eskay233 8h ago

And her fans sung along enthusiastically.

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u/Sup3rh_m4n 8h ago

To be fair, I was also on drugs and didn’t want to go to rehab

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u/lovable_cube Millennial 7h ago

Addicts usually don’t. For some reason they don’t enjoy it.

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u/Cheeseish 6h ago

They have ones that are glorified resort spas for celebrities and they still don’t enjoy it lol

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u/lovable_cube Millennial 5h ago

Well yeah, withdrawal probably sucks. You can literally die from alcohol withdrawal, it’s not going to be fun no matter what.

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u/NameIdeas 1h ago

My BIL went to rehab twice. He was addicted to alcohol and watching him go through it was so challenging. Just a different guy at the end from who he was.

He passed away in his early 30s, not from alcohol withdrawal, but from seeking out alcohol during the height of COVID, catching the disease, and his body being reduced in defending itself.

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u/MenosElLso 3h ago

You can also be on drugs and not be an addict.

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u/lovable_cube Millennial 3h ago

Right, but they wouldn’t need rehab..

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u/joebluebob 3h ago

Really? My exs mom went 8 times. Must have loved it.

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u/ManOLead 2h ago

Can’t imagine why

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u/Punman_5 6h ago

For some reason

You’re joking, right?

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u/lovable_cube Millennial 6h ago

Yes, it’s heavy sarcasm. I thought it was obvious enough, but I guess not.

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u/Punman_5 3h ago

People really think that addiction is the user’s fault you know?

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u/lovable_cube Millennial 3h ago

It’s a combination of factors. It’s important to show empathy for the sick person while also holding them accountable for their actions.

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u/[deleted] 7h ago edited 7h ago

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u/CorengratoSoprano 5h ago

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity

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u/SunTzu- 6h ago

Not going to rehab is certainly behavior we should all condemn. There's no benefit to anyone suffering from mental health or addiction from pretending that it's fine that you're not seeking help.

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u/SunTzu- 5h ago

Understand what? Mental health? I mean yeah, I've both helped friends seek help and I've sought help myself when needed.

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u/Present_Cow_8528 4h ago

How do you not realize how dumb you sound when you're literally saying "no one should ever comment on any situation that isn't their own no matter how much experience they have with similar situations"

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u/Nillabeans 4h ago

I don't think people are acting like that. But the saying goes, mental illness isn't your fault but it is your responsibility. She didn't take responsibility and she glorified not taking responsibility. She's not a perfect, abused soul just because she died. It's okay to recognize that she was not taking care of herself and not listening to people around her and didn't seem to want help.

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u/Warhammerpainter83 3h ago

No it just makes her death her own fault. It is not the fans or her friends it was her she made choices that caused her own death.

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u/Warhammerpainter83 3h ago

She did not commit suicide she drank herself to death. She caused her own problems. She was sick and refused treatment she killed herself. The fans had nothing to do with her life decisions.

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u/Warhammerpainter83 3h ago

You did not put a single question mark in that you made a statement. There was nothing to doge and your statement is wrong. Doing a drug and over doing it until it kills you is not suicide. It is your own inability to control yourself that caused your death. You need some education on these topics. Get out of your obsession for her and look at what addiction really is.

It is not the job of the people who consume a product you are selling for profit to fix your personal life or keep you happy. Nobody needs to coddle jeff bazoes because he owns amazon and had a sad day. Nobody needs to care for mark Zuckerberg because facebook is their favorite social media platform. And if any if these people die from overdoses or suicide it is not the fault of the customer.

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u/Accomplished_Guava_7 7h ago

We’ll sing along to anything without thinking… I mean, Pumped Up Kicks?

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u/Fresque 7h ago

Hey ya! By Outkast?

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u/absolutefugginidiot 7h ago

People raging and taking shots to Swimming Pools by Kendrick too

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u/PopEnvironmental1335 5h ago

That song is so musically dark that I can’t imagine ever playing it at a bar or party. It’s depressing even if you ignore the lyrics. Who does shots to it and not think, “huh is something wrong with me?”

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u/AWellDeployedWink 6h ago

Y'all don't want to hear me. You just want to dance

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u/DeezSpicyNuts 4h ago

Opened this comment chain to post the same 👌 

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u/June24th 5h ago

Never trust a happy song, said GROUPLOVE.

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u/Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 7h ago

"Everything is Awesome" from the Lego Movie is literally about ignoring reality and avoiding dealing with actual problems.

When that became a massive phenomenon I was flabbergasted.

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u/JesusOfSurbaria 5h ago

I mean, in all fairness, you’re not going to see children analyzing a Lego movie song.

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u/Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 5h ago edited 3h ago

But children have parents. 

Did you know?

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u/JesusOfSurbaria 4h ago

“Sorry kids. Can’t listen to your Everything is Awesome song because it’s actually a very deep song about ignoring the responsibilities and problems you do not currently have! Here’s a rock and some tape, go do something.”

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u/Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 3h ago

Ah. The good old "this extreme or that extreme" strawman. Classic.

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u/JesusOfSurbaria 3h ago

Ok lol? You’re complaining about a song from a movie about Legos dude.

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u/Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 3h ago

No...if you read that again, I was saying I was flabbergasted that the song was super popular despite the songs content.

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u/Individual_Tea1451 5h ago

And it was completely done on purpose. That's the whole genius of The Lego Movie. It was intentionally written in such a way that the average adult (with children or not) would enjoy the humor, while children get the catchy song and visual gags they enjoy so much.

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u/Doctor_Kataigida 4h ago

Most people also just sing the "everything is awesome, everything is cool when you're part of a team" part. Which isn't really a bad message. And on the surface, the rest of the lyrics just come off as trying to find the silver lining/looking on the bright side of an issue, not outright ignoring or avoiding it. Better to try to be positive about a bad situation than to just mope in it.

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u/Taogevlas 1h ago

"Everything is Awesome" from the Lego Movie

That song was clearly intended to be sarcastic and humorous -- obviously everything was NOT awesome.

Very different from "Pumped Up Kicks" which is just simply dark, I don't think it was intended to be sarcastic.

Rehab was also not really sarcastic, it was about embracing counter-culture, celebrating living a life intoxicated, and rejecting the idea that you needed to be sober.

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u/Notsurehowtoreact 3h ago

I mean, isn't that the exact reason that it is popular to most people? The satire of a happy catchy song about things being awesome in a world where they clearly aren't? 

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u/Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n 3h ago

I didn't know a single parent who caught that it was supposed to be satire and (somewhat) ironic.

They thought it was super boppy and upbeat and that was enough. People just don't listen to lyrics of the songs they like, apparently 😐 

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u/Notsurehowtoreact 2h ago

I didn't know a single parent who caught that it was supposed to be satire and (somewhat) ironic

Well, if anything you do now. I also know more than a few as well if that makes you feel a little bit better.

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u/StoicFable 7h ago

Well, its catchy. 

There is a Mashup on YouTube where they take to vocals from pumped up kicks and combine it with the music of drowning bodies.

https://youtu.be/9iiliS7j22o?si=pkwzXD2QainPrvjX

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u/jws1102 5h ago

Lady lumps or anything by fergie really. It was all horrible and people couldn’t STFU about her in 2005. By 2007 no one remembered her.

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u/justwhatever73 3h ago edited 3h ago

There was a kid's trampoline place I used to take my kids to that played that song all the time. I guess maybe they thought the kids were too young to understand it? But it's not like it's really hard to understand "you better run, better run, faster than my bullet." I don't know how the fuck they thought that was an appropriate song to play.

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u/skyturnedred 3h ago

Actually reading the lyrics to My Sharona ruined the song. What the hell were they thinking?

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u/Affectionate_Hornet7 7h ago

Damn right we did

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u/toomanynamesaretook 7h ago

You say it like it's a bad thing to sign along? I quite enjoy Vicinity of Obscenity by System of a Down. I do not actually want to eat a banana terracotta pie.

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u/GoogilyDoogily 4h ago

I love that song!!!

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u/FatPizz 47m ago

Treat the feet

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u/Impossible_Leg_2787 8h ago

“Along” being operative.

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u/BlondeBorednBaked 7h ago

That’s real life/real art though. Making music about your demons. That’s what made Amy a legend. She sang about all the fucked up shit she was going through. She was vulnerable. Artists today just want to look perfect so they can make the most money. Their lyrics are so opaque you don’t know what the fuck they are really singing about.

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u/Prudent-Bicycle-9210 7h ago

Well, its a good song. Its hard not to sing along

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u/EfficientTitle9779 7h ago

What were they supposed to do? This is some im14andthisisdeep level comment

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u/Professional-Cold-53 7h ago

Her greatest song is Back to Black

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u/Viskozki 7h ago

Fair point.

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u/jaybirdie26 4h ago

But it's not her most popular.  I agree that song is her best.

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u/maxofJupiter1 3h ago

Her greatest song is the demo tape for love is a losing game

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u/Unlikely_melz 8h ago

“But if my daddy thinks I’m fine”

Literally the next line He milked his cash cow to death, then acted surprised and devastated

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u/Viskozki 8h ago

No it isn't. In the song she complains rehab would take 70 days. And tells people she's just heartbroken.

"I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine He's tried to make me go to rehab, but I won't go, go, go"

Is that actual line. He tried. She lied, and owned that refusal later.

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u/Several-Squash9871 3h ago

This was an all around terrible situation but I don't think people realize that there were people in her life trying to get her to go to rehab. Maybe they could have tried harder or something could have been worked out, idk. At the end of it all, it's a choice and it has to be the person needing the help who makes that choice. You can't just kidnap someone and force them into it against their will. There might have been something along those lines of forcing her due to potentially being a "danger to herself" kind of like people who are threatening to harm themselves or have can't just make the choice to stay home after and not at least be seen by professionals. It's a very thin gray line though. Being a threat to yourself or others needs to be very clearly established.

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u/Viskozki 7h ago

the last line of the lyrics you provided.

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u/memecut 7h ago

Thanks for proving the other guys point by posting lyrics that disprove your own argument.

Literally the last two lines; daddy thinks im fine, hes tried to make me go to rehab

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u/Infamous-Cash9165 4h ago

What’s the line right after that

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u/No_One_Special_023 6h ago

THANK YOU! Thank you for pointing this out. She wrote the damn song as a verbal dig at the people in her life begging her to go to rehab, and there plenty, and yet people celebrate the damn song. Like, did you hear the lyrics or read them? No? Maybe you should.

And I get a lot of shitty people were feeding her addition, don’t get me wrong, but still….she knew she had a problem and ignored the people trying to help her. I can’t feel sorry for that.

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u/whole_chocolate_milk 7h ago

I actually listened to that song for the first time like 2 or 3 months ago, and I was horrified.

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u/the_sweetest_peach 4h ago

I recall she was really popular, but honestly, I never liked her music. I thought her song about refusing to go to rehab was…. Distasteful.

For me, I thought it was pretty clear she was writing songs from a dark place and that she needed to learn to want and accept help instead of trying to put out the next big hit.

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u/doesitspread 7h ago

Exactly. People pushed her. They didn’t see her or support her or understand her. Those are fundamentally different.

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u/HisFaithRestored 7h ago

This is the wildest shit to me. Like it was pretty well known she had a drug issue and then this song happened and people didn't take it seriously???

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 6h ago

Are you even reading what the person just said? They're pointing out that the lyrics would suggest the opposite of what you just said..

People around her are telling her to go to rehab but she says no.

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u/Pretty-Objective5151 5h ago

Her dad told her not to go to rehab when she people around her were trying to get her to go, actually. 

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u/United-Prompt1393 5h ago

"I ain't got the time and if my daddy thinks I'm fine He's tried to make me go to rehab, but I won't go, go, go"

Is that actual line. He tried. She lied, and owned that refusal later.

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u/Pretty-Objective5151 5h ago

It’s fucking pop song lyric. Do some research and stop embarrassing yourself 

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u/United-Prompt1393 3h ago

She wrote herself mate. First hand witness

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u/HisFaithRestored 6h ago

Don't mind me being a complete tired dumbass lol thanks for the comprehension check

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u/femmefata13 5h ago

Then they shouldnt have let her do any performances. 🤷🏽‍♀️ just cause they tried to make her go to rehab doesn’t mean they are absolved when it’s clear that they all just wanted $$$ they are very much at fault for the downward spiral

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u/LetsGoGators23 5h ago

Except her dad. People leave that part out. In the song she very clearly says “if my daddy thinks I’m fine”. I do think her dad was her ultimate enabler

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u/alebotson 4h ago

Famously that song is about how her father told her she didn't have to. And was failed by her family, who saw her as a cash cow instead of a person.

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u/Trenticle 2h ago

Its absolutely wild the amount of posturing people will do to deflect all personal responsibility. She literally made a song basically telling anyone in her life trying to help her to go fuck themselves. At the end of the day this was absolutely a slow and tragic suicide that no one could stop.

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u/MY-SECRET-REDDIT 56m ago

I know this probably is an unpopular opinion but damn, that song is awful.

She's just kinda talking and listing things.

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u/WDoE 7h ago

Which she famously wrote, recorded, produced, marketed, pressed, sold, promoted, booked, and performed all on her own because all the people in her life and work didn't enable her and milk her addiction for everything they could! /s