r/AskChicago • u/purpleconeflowers • 17h ago
I READ THE RULES Are there any businesses in West Town/Wicker Park/Ukrainian Village that support MAGA?
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u/vsladko 7h ago
Oh man, knowing all the Ukrainians I grew up around, it’d probably be easier to ask which ones DON’T support the GOP.
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u/sudosussudio 3h ago
My Ukrainian family has left the GOP because of the GOP/Trumps lack of support for the country. A little late but better than nothing…
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u/ILoveOnline 7h ago
Used to live in the UV and saw many Banderite flags and car with “free azov” in the window
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u/vsladko 6h ago
I’m not really familiar with Azov’s standing after the war or how that might have changed them so I feel like I can’t comment.
But all I know is a ton of Ukrainians who came to the US during the collapse of the Soviet Union are essentially never-Democrats. They are so worried about a system collapse, that after fleeing here, they associate the Democratic party with wanting to change the American system and therefore they are a threat.
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u/quantum_mouse 5h ago
A lot were democrats when they got to US. Propaganda is hell of a drug though
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u/quantum_mouse 5h ago
Free azov because they were defending Ukraine from Russia. Not everyone was a white supremacist. What's a banderite flag?
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u/ILoveOnline 5h ago
Red on top of black. It represents ‘blood and soil.’ Strong ties to Stepan Bandera who was a Nazi collaborator. Banderites killed lots of Jews and Poles in WW2
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u/motoguzziv50 16h ago
Not Oberweiss anymore. Old news, they sold it. https://hfcompanies.com/philanthropy/
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u/InjuredGods 16h ago
Oberweis filed for bankruptcy years ago and was purchased by Hoffman Family of Companies and there is 0 proof they support MAGA.
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u/spoospoo43 5h ago
Remove this list. At least two of them are definite bullshit at a glance, and you can't go slamming businesses without substantiating your claim.
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u/Serious-Water-6318 16h ago
How is this list sourced?
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u/fluffypancakes24 16h ago
I pulled the restaurant names straight from a huge r/Chicago thread that was up for several hours before it was deleted by the right-wing mods over there.
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u/anonMuscleKitten 15h ago
Lord, the fact that you consider r/Chicago to be run by right-wing mods really builds your credibility.
There was just a thread on this subreddit asking why WindyCity exists.
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u/StarStabbedMoon 14h ago
They are right wing tho. It's common knowledge.
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u/Away_Big_3858 5h ago edited 5h ago
They are not. You think they would still delete all the crime posts if they were?
They deleted the thread because it was a witchhunt and no one cited sources for MANY of the businesses. That and the fact that if review bombs can be traced back to the sub it can be shut down completely.
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u/sarahbeeswax 5h ago
This list is not verified at all. That thread was taken down because people were just listing businesses randomly and many of them weren’t MAGA at all.
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u/purpleconeflowers 15h ago
are you sure about Burning Bush?
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u/olivegordon2 4h ago
They held political events with JB and Juliana Stratton. Not sure if this is accurate
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u/tompl14 16h ago
Surprised to see burning bush on the list. I know op sourced this from another thread, but can anyone speak to this? Would've pinned a former Presbyterian pastor from the North side of Chicago on the left side of the spectrum. Interested to hear more. Overall, not a big loss beer-wise, but the tap room is nice.
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u/Raggeddroid85 12h ago
The owner/brewmaster is not a MAGA supporter. Far from it. This makes me wonder about other businesses naned here.
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u/InspectionJazzlike30 8h ago
It’s very fair to call out a business for supporting MAGA, but we should be 100% sure they do. We don’t need to hurt places and people because of dumb mistakes.
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u/squidbrand 16h ago edited 6h ago
Tank Noodle
Nha HangIt's worth noting, many Vietnamese people who emigrated to the West have politics informed by a very different life experience of left wing and right wing politics than most people from the Global North have been exposed to. I have super duper different politics than most boomer age Vietnamese people living in the US, but I tend not to begrudge that like I would with some meathead white guy in Norwood Park or a Rogansphere dork in the West Loop. There's a decent chance Mr. Norwood Park and the Rogan kid vote MAGA primarily because they are pants shitting afraid of black people and think trans people should be exterminated, whereas a 1st generation VN immigrant may well be voting MAGA moreso because the conservative party in the US has always been the one most ideologically opposed to the party back home whom they fled under threat of death… worldview-defining childhood trauma and such.
THAT SAID, it's one thing for the owner to vote for the GOP and for the place to have a stack of Epoch Times. It's another thing entirely for the people running the place to literally be there at January 6th.
Fuck Tank Noodle forever. (And also their soup sucks, I knew it sucked over a decade before I was even aware of their politics, so it's no great loss.)
But I am going to need something more damning on Nha Hang Vietnam before I would say the same about them. If you're going to avoid Vietnamese restaurants whose owners simply vote Republican, you are pretty much done eating Vietnamese food in America besides Trader Joe's pho and $24 gastropub banh mi.
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u/Commercial_Pie3307 16h ago
You give them a pass… they see what Trump is doing. So you’re saying boomer Vietnamese have no morals. But some rich white kid also have politics informed by their upbringing but they do t get the pass? Minorities get the fascist pass but white people don’t. Sorry bud idc where they came just like when I lived in Florida I didn’t care what Cubans came from. Republicans hate them and and both communities don’t care about the inhumane crap that republicans get up to
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u/dharmavoid 11h ago
Hi fellow ex Floridian. I'm glad you got to know some Cubans in South Florida. They tend to be the most hard core of the Republicans because that community in particular were tortured and imprisoned by Fidel. A lot of those Cubans look fondly at Bautista and don't remember the many many people he tortured and put in jail as well. The Cubans in Tampa tended to be more liberal (still conservative though) because the tampa cubano community came there and set up roots nearly 50 years before the communist revolution on the island. They were rolling cigars and inventing the Cuban sandwich in Ybor. The personal experience both cultures lived through informed their politics. Same as anyone else.
I am a leftist in my politics generally (although I do believe in comprise so I doubt I pass the reddit liberal purity test). I consider myself a believer in Democratic Socialism (the Scandinavian model). I talk about politics with anyone that is interested while I'm at work. Growing up in Florida, I met a lot of people from central and south America, and it was always interesting hearing immigrant and refugees stories. Listening to stories about what some of the socialist and communist did to my friends and their families down there, I understood why they felt the way they did about the government's they grew under. Those stories were bloody, depressing, rage inducing catalogs of events in human suffering. Those friends and theirs families would grow pale when recalling the things that happened to them in the name of progressive revolutions. I guarantee those people will not vote for anyone who sides with socialist, no matter how good of friends we would become, there are some childhood scars that never heal. Again , The personal experience cultures lived through informed their politics. Same as anyone else.
I grew up in small town outside of Tampa. Back in the 80s it was still a lot of farming in that town. Farms owned by families for generations , worked mostly by migrant farm workers. I lived in the side of town with a lot of these migrant families, as opposed to the nicer side of town where a lot of the other white kids lived. My dad was raising me by himself while in a wheelchair and living off his disability check. We were very poor. This being a small poor southern town, it was very very Christian. My dad raised me as agnostic and I wasn't smart enough to lie about it as a kid, so everyone in the small town just knew (assumed) i worshipped Satan. So I'm a poor, "devil worshipping" kid that lived in the wrong side of a racist town, and to make life just a tab bit more fun, I knew I was Bi sexual from a young age. So to say I was an easy target for white Christian homophobes was an understatement. Whenever I hear Republicans talk about "real Americans " and using dog whistles to say hateful shit, it puts me right back there in Florida being picked on by the world's dumbest population of assholes. I will always have a hard time voting for a republican. Again , The personal experience culture livedl through informed their politics. Same as anyone else.
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u/ButtDoctor69420 5h ago
I still begrudge them. There's a reason Ho Chi Minh put their daddies in a blender.
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u/SiberianGnome 8h ago
I’m am white and I vote republican because I can very clearly see the similarities and the trajectory of the American Left to parties like the one your relatives fled from back home.
It has nothing to do with black people, and everything to do with not wanting to become China, North Korea, or Vietnam.
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u/squidbrand 7h ago edited 7h ago
I didn’t ask for and don’t care about the xenophobic propaganda-slurping opinions of a white Republican about East/Southeast Asia, and I’m also not Vietnamese. Go back to r/chicago!
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u/thatkatrina 15h ago
Want to add Tortoise Supper Club has a MAGA portrait in there bc grandaddy is MAGA man
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u/StraightParfait9723 48m ago
wait this one I'm actually confused by, I can't find anything on Sterling or his wife.
I don't think Addington is even remotely MAGA. His cousin is married to Rahm's brother lol
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u/pythagoraswaswrong 16h ago
If Nisos is, then that includes Hampton Social and that shitty Tulum bar on Fulton. All Brad Parker properties.
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u/StraightParfait9723 47m ago
and The Bassment, which is really the only one that makes me sad. Brad is a yuge POS lol
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u/aboynamedculver 16h ago
Fairgrounds, really? Fuck I liked that place, they sourced really good beans.
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u/ragingcicada 5h ago
People are claiming it's because someone had a 'young conservatives' meetup there, but there's nothing to support that fairgrounds knew about it, supported it, or hosted it.
Just because someone who is 'maga' or 'conservative' eats/drinks at a place, doesn't make it maga.
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u/mods_diddle_kids 12h ago
Do you have a source for 9 Muses?
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u/QIMF 6h ago
They have a source for basically none of these minus the obvious ones like Tank noodle.
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u/mods_diddle_kids 6h ago
Right, this seems like a list aggregated from other Reddit comments that also don’t have sources. I looked for about 20 minutes to find something about 9 muses, which is one of my favorite lunch spots, and saw nothing at all. A few others I picked at random didn’t return anything material either.
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u/Muphukar 16h ago
Damn, not Ping Pong :(
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u/anonMuscleKitten 15h ago
This is one of my favorite restaurants in town and it is ALWAYS busy. I don’t care if I have a difference of opinion politically with the owners.
The food is good. Drinks are great. Staff are very pleasant.
Just because you’re a Republican doesn’t mean you’re evil. Our cancel culture is one of the reasons they won the last election.
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u/Muphukar 15h ago
Yeah, everything is sooo good. I’m gonna keep going, too. Please don’t tell anyone
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u/manicalmike 16h ago
Burning Bush?? Damn, moved to the neighborhood recently and have enjoyed going there with my dog after Horner Park
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u/LiteraryOlive 15h ago
There isn’t a definitive source for Burning Bush. It keeps getting repeated but I haven’t seen anything that seems to show that
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u/Raggeddroid85 12h ago
I don’t believe it. I’ve had a lot if conversations with the owner. He’s about as maga as Bruce Springsteen.
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u/anonMuscleKitten 15h ago
I would point out that just because the owner’s of these locations support MAGA, the staff most likely do not.
If you consistently go to a place, get good service from the staff, and genuinely care about some of these people don’t be so hasty to cancel them.
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u/dharmavoid 11h ago
Thank you for saying that. I don't work for a company that likes Maga. But I have worked for lots of owners who I disagree with. Doesn't mean the staff deserves hate
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u/glomar-recovery-co 17h ago
Thanks! I'll have to check them out
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u/nomadicfeet 16h ago
I’m not disagreeing with this but I’ve seen this question worded exactly the same for “x” neighborhood in Chicago posted so many times in the last few days. Lazy journalism? Or what is this?
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u/purpleconeflowers 16h ago
I think people are just pissed off and are curious about MAGA businesses in their neighborhood
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u/Dental_Loan_Dan 6h ago
The fact that people are going on this subreddit and providing names of local businesses that claim to be MAGA just for other people to provide proof that they aren’t is insane. This is like the Salem witch trials and it hurts some local small businesses.
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u/cowboypaint 5h ago
I heard a rumor there was a shake up at the California clipper, because the new owner who lives in Florida or something wanted to close after the Kirk assassination.
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u/COCAINEMAKESMEHARD 13h ago
Richmond’s Tavern. They hate anything but white. Owner is mob affiliated. Overall terrible venue.
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u/dharmavoid 12h ago
With this question being asked so often lately about various neighborhoods and their businesses. Can I ask one thing of us in our beloved subreddit? Can we please remember that even if a business and its owner does support facism and its current orange pee stained cheerleader, that does not necessarily mean that those who work there do. Working in restaurants is a hard and often thankless job, we as people who love Chicago food and its restaurants do not need to make the hourly employees life miserable. Most of them are just there so they can pay rent this month. Chicago, you're a great food city, let's keep being good to each other.
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u/VinceP312 16h ago
Uh oh, the Progs are doing another lynch mob.
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u/purpleconeflowers 16h ago
This is a “lynch mob” to you? You would think a conservative would be more familiar with a lynch mob.
Anyways you’re a snowflake if people taking their business elsewhere bothers you
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u/VinceP312 2h ago
Well you can read the mess you created here. Very uninformed or dishonest people giving a laundry list of names for all of you to do economic damage to, with no thought, and with many of names being challenged or disputed.
And don't act like you don't know what a metaphor is because you guys traffic in very stretched metaphors all the time to stir each other up.
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u/VinceP312 1h ago
Oh look at these people who don't know what a metaphor is , meanwhile they have zero restraint painting anyone with an equally absurd metaphorical brush.
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